Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Let me understand this, papa! IF you've suffered adverse reactions to vaccines in the past, or you're well enough educated to know that the science is bunk, then exemptions cannot be used, even if in addition you have religious beliefs founded in sound personal hygiene. ???????? That's what it sounds like to me. A little Alice in Wonderland? Please... From: lawpapa23 <lawpapa@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:41:19 AMSubject: Re: Question! No offense, but that's risky advice. Laws vary from state to state, so what works in one state may not work in another. You have to look closely at your state's laws--statutes and regulations- -to see how to exercise an exemption, doing anything else risks having it denied. Even rights under federal law (e.g., First Amendment "free exercise" of religion can vary in different parts of the country).Also, the quickest way to lose a religious exemption is to mention anything about adverse events, vaccine ingredients, etc. -- have seen this in my practice. Legally, religion is mutually exclusive from medical and philosophical concerns, so if you are required in your state to write a statement of religious beliefs, keep it purely religious, and don't refer to non-religious concerns--doing so has cost some their exemption or waiver (there's federal case law on that point).Finally, prior vaccines don't necessarily prevent exercise of a present exemption, but they definitely can--it depends on the circumstances and how you handle it. In addition to state requirements, there are federal boundaries set out by federal legal precedent, which applies differently depending on where you live (may be "binding" or "persuasive" accordingly) . E.g., First Amendment protection under federal law requires a sincerely held belief that is religious. Having had vaccines in the past, especially the recent past, may evidence a lack of sincerity and thus cause one to lose the exemption. But strictly speaking, if you have the sincerely held belief now, you qualify. Point is, it's not necessarily straightforward, and must be approached with care.Details on the above are in the "Vaccine Legal Exemptions" e-book, at www.vaccinerights. com. Alan>>> In all states (except MS and WV) you can use a religious exemption, even if you have vaccinated in the past.  Many parents become educated about vaccine ingredients, side effects and risks and choose to stop vaccinating and therefore use the religious exemption so their children can attend public school.  Below is a sample letter used extensively and successfully in NJ. You can just replace the state law with your own, if you live in a different state. We have found it more effective to keep the letter brief and to the point. I hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Let me understand this, papa! IF you've suffered adverse reactions to vaccines in the past, or you're well enough educated to know that the science is bunk, then exemptions cannot be used, even if in addition you have religious beliefs founded in sound personal hygiene. ???????? That's what it sounds like to me. A little Alice in Wonderland? Please... From: lawpapa23 <lawpapa@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:41:19 AMSubject: Re: Question! No offense, but that's risky advice. Laws vary from state to state, so what works in one state may not work in another. You have to look closely at your state's laws--statutes and regulations- -to see how to exercise an exemption, doing anything else risks having it denied. Even rights under federal law (e.g., First Amendment "free exercise" of religion can vary in different parts of the country).Also, the quickest way to lose a religious exemption is to mention anything about adverse events, vaccine ingredients, etc. -- have seen this in my practice. Legally, religion is mutually exclusive from medical and philosophical concerns, so if you are required in your state to write a statement of religious beliefs, keep it purely religious, and don't refer to non-religious concerns--doing so has cost some their exemption or waiver (there's federal case law on that point).Finally, prior vaccines don't necessarily prevent exercise of a present exemption, but they definitely can--it depends on the circumstances and how you handle it. In addition to state requirements, there are federal boundaries set out by federal legal precedent, which applies differently depending on where you live (may be "binding" or "persuasive" accordingly) . E.g., First Amendment protection under federal law requires a sincerely held belief that is religious. Having had vaccines in the past, especially the recent past, may evidence a lack of sincerity and thus cause one to lose the exemption. But strictly speaking, if you have the sincerely held belief now, you qualify. Point is, it's not necessarily straightforward, and must be approached with care.Details on the above are in the "Vaccine Legal Exemptions" e-book, at www.vaccinerights. com. Alan>>> In all states (except MS and WV) you can use a religious exemption, even if you have vaccinated in the past.  Many parents become educated about vaccine ingredients, side effects and risks and choose to stop vaccinating and therefore use the religious exemption so their children can attend public school.  Below is a sample letter used extensively and successfully in NJ. You can just replace the state law with your own, if you live in a different state. We have found it more effective to keep the letter brief and to the point. I hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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