Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 yeah i heard this about the white inner skin of grapefruit i called my doc to varify the meds and grapefruit thing and she said to wait an hr before drinking grapefruit after youve taken meds but i take real precations and wait about 3 hrs,ya just never know...better safe than sorry. im taking thyroid meds now and on the bottle of them it says not to take certain vitamins for at least 4 hrs. very costly disease,even without the treatment wow!!! From: bob Larson <bobList@...> Subject: grapefruit Hepatitis C Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:15 AM i recall from reading some findings about grapefruit that the good stuff is actually more in the white parts, so when i use grapefruits i fish out any seeds from the segments and toss the rest in the blender instead of using the citrus juicer. grapefruit seed extract is supposed to be good stuff (don't remember what for, doubt it's specifically for hep tho) but an extract and whole seeds munched in a blender are quite different chemistry i don't really trust... yet. fresh squeezed citrus is far superior to anything packaged/pasteurize d or even squeezed and stored in the frig a few days, according to all i read. there's fragile things that need to be consumed right away. grapefruit has some significant effects interacting with other drugs that should be considered when using various meds. i forget how it goes, but think it causes the blood levels of the drugs to go high because the grapefruit inhibits formation of some enzyme (probably in the liver) that breaks down the drugs. > Re: ache and muscle pains > > hi there frank... > > i'm a new hepper myself,i just found out i have it little > over a month ago. how long do you think youve had it and did > you do treatment? was it successful? i dont believe treatment > gets rid of this virus,i think it just drops the viral load > so loaw that it appears to be gone.i wont be doing the > treatment right now/i dont want to ever do it!!! im still > doing my own investigating here. i heard that they were > yesting gratefruit juice in 06 but they said it would have to > be an injection,not sure watever happen there but im drinking > gratefruit juice,huge glass aday on ice,no sugar added!!! try > drinking water with lemon to help clean your liver. are you > seeing a doctor and wat have they told you so far? wat was > your viral load? > > you can send mail right to me if youd like > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 yeah i heard this about the white inner skin of grapefruit i called my doc to varify the meds and grapefruit thing and she said to wait an hr before drinking grapefruit after youve taken meds but i take real precations and wait about 3 hrs,ya just never know...better safe than sorry. im taking thyroid meds now and on the bottle of them it says not to take certain vitamins for at least 4 hrs. very costly disease,even without the treatment wow!!! From: bob Larson <bobList@...> Subject: grapefruit Hepatitis C Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:15 AM i recall from reading some findings about grapefruit that the good stuff is actually more in the white parts, so when i use grapefruits i fish out any seeds from the segments and toss the rest in the blender instead of using the citrus juicer. grapefruit seed extract is supposed to be good stuff (don't remember what for, doubt it's specifically for hep tho) but an extract and whole seeds munched in a blender are quite different chemistry i don't really trust... yet. fresh squeezed citrus is far superior to anything packaged/pasteurize d or even squeezed and stored in the frig a few days, according to all i read. there's fragile things that need to be consumed right away. grapefruit has some significant effects interacting with other drugs that should be considered when using various meds. i forget how it goes, but think it causes the blood levels of the drugs to go high because the grapefruit inhibits formation of some enzyme (probably in the liver) that breaks down the drugs. > Re: ache and muscle pains > > hi there frank... > > i'm a new hepper myself,i just found out i have it little > over a month ago. how long do you think youve had it and did > you do treatment? was it successful? i dont believe treatment > gets rid of this virus,i think it just drops the viral load > so loaw that it appears to be gone.i wont be doing the > treatment right now/i dont want to ever do it!!! im still > doing my own investigating here. i heard that they were > yesting gratefruit juice in 06 but they said it would have to > be an injection,not sure watever happen there but im drinking > gratefruit juice,huge glass aday on ice,no sugar added!!! try > drinking water with lemon to help clean your liver. are you > seeing a doctor and wat have they told you so far? wat was > your viral load? > > you can send mail right to me if youd like > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 yeah i heard this about the white inner skin of grapefruit i called my doc to varify the meds and grapefruit thing and she said to wait an hr before drinking grapefruit after youve taken meds but i take real precations and wait about 3 hrs,ya just never know...better safe than sorry. im taking thyroid meds now and on the bottle of them it says not to take certain vitamins for at least 4 hrs. very costly disease,even without the treatment wow!!! From: bob Larson <bobList@...> Subject: grapefruit Hepatitis C Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:15 AM i recall from reading some findings about grapefruit that the good stuff is actually more in the white parts, so when i use grapefruits i fish out any seeds from the segments and toss the rest in the blender instead of using the citrus juicer. grapefruit seed extract is supposed to be good stuff (don't remember what for, doubt it's specifically for hep tho) but an extract and whole seeds munched in a blender are quite different chemistry i don't really trust... yet. fresh squeezed citrus is far superior to anything packaged/pasteurize d or even squeezed and stored in the frig a few days, according to all i read. there's fragile things that need to be consumed right away. grapefruit has some significant effects interacting with other drugs that should be considered when using various meds. i forget how it goes, but think it causes the blood levels of the drugs to go high because the grapefruit inhibits formation of some enzyme (probably in the liver) that breaks down the drugs. > Re: ache and muscle pains > > hi there frank... > > i'm a new hepper myself,i just found out i have it little > over a month ago. how long do you think youve had it and did > you do treatment? was it successful? i dont believe treatment > gets rid of this virus,i think it just drops the viral load > so loaw that it appears to be gone.i wont be doing the > treatment right now/i dont want to ever do it!!! im still > doing my own investigating here. i heard that they were > yesting gratefruit juice in 06 but they said it would have to > be an injection,not sure watever happen there but im drinking > gratefruit juice,huge glass aday on ice,no sugar added!!! try > drinking water with lemon to help clean your liver. are you > seeing a doctor and wat have they told you so far? wat was > your viral load? > > you can send mail right to me if youd like > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 yeah i heard this about the white inner skin of grapefruit i called my doc to varify the meds and grapefruit thing and she said to wait an hr before drinking grapefruit after youve taken meds but i take real precations and wait about 3 hrs,ya just never know...better safe than sorry. im taking thyroid meds now and on the bottle of them it says not to take certain vitamins for at least 4 hrs. very costly disease,even without the treatment wow!!! From: bob Larson <bobList@...> Subject: grapefruit Hepatitis C Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:15 AM i recall from reading some findings about grapefruit that the good stuff is actually more in the white parts, so when i use grapefruits i fish out any seeds from the segments and toss the rest in the blender instead of using the citrus juicer. grapefruit seed extract is supposed to be good stuff (don't remember what for, doubt it's specifically for hep tho) but an extract and whole seeds munched in a blender are quite different chemistry i don't really trust... yet. fresh squeezed citrus is far superior to anything packaged/pasteurize d or even squeezed and stored in the frig a few days, according to all i read. there's fragile things that need to be consumed right away. grapefruit has some significant effects interacting with other drugs that should be considered when using various meds. i forget how it goes, but think it causes the blood levels of the drugs to go high because the grapefruit inhibits formation of some enzyme (probably in the liver) that breaks down the drugs. > Re: ache and muscle pains > > hi there frank... > > i'm a new hepper myself,i just found out i have it little > over a month ago. how long do you think youve had it and did > you do treatment? was it successful? i dont believe treatment > gets rid of this virus,i think it just drops the viral load > so loaw that it appears to be gone.i wont be doing the > treatment right now/i dont want to ever do it!!! im still > doing my own investigating here. i heard that they were > yesting gratefruit juice in 06 but they said it would have to > be an injection,not sure watever happen there but im drinking > gratefruit juice,huge glass aday on ice,no sugar added!!! try > drinking water with lemon to help clean your liver. are you > seeing a doctor and wat have they told you so far? wat was > your viral load? > > you can send mail right to me if youd like > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 re thyroid: i dn't have that issue,but reading lots of health lists it comes up a lot. many folks get off synthroid and onto armour instead. www.stopthethyroidmadness.com i don't know if it's cheaper, but seems to be a better choice for lots of folks. > Re: ache and muscle pains > > > > hi there frank... > > > > i'm a new hepper myself,i just found out i have it little > > over a month ago. how long do you think youve had it and did > > you do treatment? was it successful? i dont believe treatment > > gets rid of this virus,i think it just drops the viral load > > so loaw that it appears to be gone.i wont be doing the > > treatment right now/i dont want to ever do it!!! im still > > doing my own investigating here. i heard that they were > > yesting gratefruit juice in 06 but they said it would have to > > be an injection,not sure watever happen there but im drinking > > gratefruit juice,huge glass aday on ice,no sugar added!!! try > > drinking water with lemon to help clean your liver. are you > > seeing a doctor and wat have they told you so far? wat was > > your viral load? > > > > you can send mail right to me if youd like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 re thyroid: i dn't have that issue,but reading lots of health lists it comes up a lot. many folks get off synthroid and onto armour instead. www.stopthethyroidmadness.com i don't know if it's cheaper, but seems to be a better choice for lots of folks. > Re: ache and muscle pains > > > > hi there frank... > > > > i'm a new hepper myself,i just found out i have it little > > over a month ago. how long do you think youve had it and did > > you do treatment? was it successful? i dont believe treatment > > gets rid of this virus,i think it just drops the viral load > > so loaw that it appears to be gone.i wont be doing the > > treatment right now/i dont want to ever do it!!! im still > > doing my own investigating here. i heard that they were > > yesting gratefruit juice in 06 but they said it would have to > > be an injection,not sure watever happen there but im drinking > > gratefruit juice,huge glass aday on ice,no sugar added!!! try > > drinking water with lemon to help clean your liver. are you > > seeing a doctor and wat have they told you so far? wat was > > your viral load? > > > > you can send mail right to me if youd like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 re thyroid: i dn't have that issue,but reading lots of health lists it comes up a lot. many folks get off synthroid and onto armour instead. www.stopthethyroidmadness.com i don't know if it's cheaper, but seems to be a better choice for lots of folks. > Re: ache and muscle pains > > > > hi there frank... > > > > i'm a new hepper myself,i just found out i have it little > > over a month ago. how long do you think youve had it and did > > you do treatment? was it successful? i dont believe treatment > > gets rid of this virus,i think it just drops the viral load > > so loaw that it appears to be gone.i wont be doing the > > treatment right now/i dont want to ever do it!!! im still > > doing my own investigating here. i heard that they were > > yesting gratefruit juice in 06 but they said it would have to > > be an injection,not sure watever happen there but im drinking > > gratefruit juice,huge glass aday on ice,no sugar added!!! try > > drinking water with lemon to help clean your liver. are you > > seeing a doctor and wat have they told you so far? wat was > > your viral load? > > > > you can send mail right to me if youd like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 re thyroid: i dn't have that issue,but reading lots of health lists it comes up a lot. many folks get off synthroid and onto armour instead. www.stopthethyroidmadness.com i don't know if it's cheaper, but seems to be a better choice for lots of folks. > Re: ache and muscle pains > > > > hi there frank... > > > > i'm a new hepper myself,i just found out i have it little > > over a month ago. how long do you think youve had it and did > > you do treatment? was it successful? i dont believe treatment > > gets rid of this virus,i think it just drops the viral load > > so loaw that it appears to be gone.i wont be doing the > > treatment right now/i dont want to ever do it!!! im still > > doing my own investigating here. i heard that they were > > yesting gratefruit juice in 06 but they said it would have to > > be an injection,not sure watever happen there but im drinking > > gratefruit juice,huge glass aday on ice,no sugar added!!! try > > drinking water with lemon to help clean your liver. are you > > seeing a doctor and wat have they told you so far? wat was > > your viral load? > > > > you can send mail right to me if youd like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 wat is armour? wat would my doctor think about me going off my thyroid med to do armour? > > > From: bob Larson <bobListcablespeed (DOT) com> > Subject: grapefruit > Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com > Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:15 AM > > > > > > > i recall from reading some findings about grapefruit that the > good stuff is > actually more in the white parts, so when i use grapefruits i > fish out any > seeds from the segments and toss the rest in the blender > instead of using > the citrus juicer. > grapefruit seed extract is supposed to be good stuff (don't > remember what > for, doubt it's specifically for hep tho) but an extract and > whole seeds > munched in a blender are quite different chemistry i don't > really trust... > yet. > fresh squeezed citrus is far superior to anything > packaged/pasteurize d or > even squeezed and stored in the frig a few days, according to > all i read. > there's fragile things that need to be consumed right away. > grapefruit has some significant effects interacting with > other drugs that > should be considered when using various meds. i forget how it > goes, but > think it causes the blood levels of the drugs to go high because the > grapefruit inhibits formation of some enzyme (probably in the > liver) that > breaks down the drugs. > > > Re: ache and muscle pains > > > > hi there frank... > > > > i'm a new hepper myself,i just found out i have it little > > over a month ago. how long do you think youve had it and did > > you do treatment? was it successful? i dont believe treatment > > gets rid of this virus,i think it just drops the viral load > > so loaw that it appears to be gone.i wont be doing the > > treatment right now/i dont want to ever do it!!! im still > > doing my own investigating here. i heard that they were > > yesting gratefruit juice in 06 but they said it would have to > > be an injection,not sure watever happen there but im drinking > > gratefruit juice,huge glass aday on ice,no sugar added!!! try > > drinking water with lemon to help clean your liver. are you > > seeing a doctor and wat have they told you so far? wat was > > your viral load? > > > > you can send mail right to me if youd like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 wat is armour? wat would my doctor think about me going off my thyroid med to do armour? > > > From: bob Larson <bobListcablespeed (DOT) com> > Subject: grapefruit > Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com > Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:15 AM > > > > > > > i recall from reading some findings about grapefruit that the > good stuff is > actually more in the white parts, so when i use grapefruits i > fish out any > seeds from the segments and toss the rest in the blender > instead of using > the citrus juicer. > grapefruit seed extract is supposed to be good stuff (don't > remember what > for, doubt it's specifically for hep tho) but an extract and > whole seeds > munched in a blender are quite different chemistry i don't > really trust... > yet. > fresh squeezed citrus is far superior to anything > packaged/pasteurize d or > even squeezed and stored in the frig a few days, according to > all i read. > there's fragile things that need to be consumed right away. > grapefruit has some significant effects interacting with > other drugs that > should be considered when using various meds. i forget how it > goes, but > think it causes the blood levels of the drugs to go high because the > grapefruit inhibits formation of some enzyme (probably in the > liver) that > breaks down the drugs. > > > Re: ache and muscle pains > > > > hi there frank... > > > > i'm a new hepper myself,i just found out i have it little > > over a month ago. how long do you think youve had it and did > > you do treatment? was it successful? i dont believe treatment > > gets rid of this virus,i think it just drops the viral load > > so loaw that it appears to be gone.i wont be doing the > > treatment right now/i dont want to ever do it!!! im still > > doing my own investigating here. i heard that they were > > yesting gratefruit juice in 06 but they said it would have to > > be an injection,not sure watever happen there but im drinking > > gratefruit juice,huge glass aday on ice,no sugar added!!! try > > drinking water with lemon to help clean your liver. are you > > seeing a doctor and wat have they told you so far? wat was > > your viral load? > > > > you can send mail right to me if youd like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 wat is armour? wat would my doctor think about me going off my thyroid med to do armour? > > > From: bob Larson <bobListcablespeed (DOT) com> > Subject: grapefruit > Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com > Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:15 AM > > > > > > > i recall from reading some findings about grapefruit that the > good stuff is > actually more in the white parts, so when i use grapefruits i > fish out any > seeds from the segments and toss the rest in the blender > instead of using > the citrus juicer. > grapefruit seed extract is supposed to be good stuff (don't > remember what > for, doubt it's specifically for hep tho) but an extract and > whole seeds > munched in a blender are quite different chemistry i don't > really trust... > yet. > fresh squeezed citrus is far superior to anything > packaged/pasteurize d or > even squeezed and stored in the frig a few days, according to > all i read. > there's fragile things that need to be consumed right away. > grapefruit has some significant effects interacting with > other drugs that > should be considered when using various meds. i forget how it > goes, but > think it causes the blood levels of the drugs to go high because the > grapefruit inhibits formation of some enzyme (probably in the > liver) that > breaks down the drugs. > > > Re: ache and muscle pains > > > > hi there frank... > > > > i'm a new hepper myself,i just found out i have it little > > over a month ago. how long do you think youve had it and did > > you do treatment? was it successful? i dont believe treatment > > gets rid of this virus,i think it just drops the viral load > > so loaw that it appears to be gone.i wont be doing the > > treatment right now/i dont want to ever do it!!! im still > > doing my own investigating here. i heard that they were > > yesting gratefruit juice in 06 but they said it would have to > > be an injection,not sure watever happen there but im drinking > > gratefruit juice,huge glass aday on ice,no sugar added!!! try > > drinking water with lemon to help clean your liver. are you > > seeing a doctor and wat have they told you so far? wat was > > your viral load? > > > > you can send mail right to me if youd like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 wat is armour? wat would my doctor think about me going off my thyroid med to do armour? > > > From: bob Larson <bobListcablespeed (DOT) com> > Subject: grapefruit > Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com > Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:15 AM > > > > > > > i recall from reading some findings about grapefruit that the > good stuff is > actually more in the white parts, so when i use grapefruits i > fish out any > seeds from the segments and toss the rest in the blender > instead of using > the citrus juicer. > grapefruit seed extract is supposed to be good stuff (don't > remember what > for, doubt it's specifically for hep tho) but an extract and > whole seeds > munched in a blender are quite different chemistry i don't > really trust... > yet. > fresh squeezed citrus is far superior to anything > packaged/pasteurize d or > even squeezed and stored in the frig a few days, according to > all i read. > there's fragile things that need to be consumed right away. > grapefruit has some significant effects interacting with > other drugs that > should be considered when using various meds. i forget how it > goes, but > think it causes the blood levels of the drugs to go high because the > grapefruit inhibits formation of some enzyme (probably in the > liver) that > breaks down the drugs. > > > Re: ache and muscle pains > > > > hi there frank... > > > > i'm a new hepper myself,i just found out i have it little > > over a month ago. how long do you think youve had it and did > > you do treatment? was it successful? i dont believe treatment > > gets rid of this virus,i think it just drops the viral load > > so loaw that it appears to be gone.i wont be doing the > > treatment right now/i dont want to ever do it!!! im still > > doing my own investigating here. i heard that they were > > yesting gratefruit juice in 06 but they said it would have to > > be an injection,not sure watever happen there but im drinking > > gratefruit juice,huge glass aday on ice,no sugar added!!! try > > drinking water with lemon to help clean your liver. are you > > seeing a doctor and wat have they told you so far? wat was > > your viral load? > > > > you can send mail right to me if youd like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 armour is a form of dessicated thyroid tissue that is used instead of the synthroid drug. not sure, buti think armour is by prescription also, but works lots better. your doc might not like it. thyroid folks seem to feel it's best to switch docs until you find one willing to switch the meds. read into the link i provided... it'll give you the issues, ups and downs of the two. i don't really know about thyroid issues, just read a lot of emails about it in passing. > RE: grapefruit > > wat is armour? wat would my doctor think about me going off > my thyroid med to do armour? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 armour is a form of dessicated thyroid tissue that is used instead of the synthroid drug. not sure, buti think armour is by prescription also, but works lots better. your doc might not like it. thyroid folks seem to feel it's best to switch docs until you find one willing to switch the meds. read into the link i provided... it'll give you the issues, ups and downs of the two. i don't really know about thyroid issues, just read a lot of emails about it in passing. > RE: grapefruit > > wat is armour? wat would my doctor think about me going off > my thyroid med to do armour? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 armour is a form of dessicated thyroid tissue that is used instead of the synthroid drug. not sure, buti think armour is by prescription also, but works lots better. your doc might not like it. thyroid folks seem to feel it's best to switch docs until you find one willing to switch the meds. read into the link i provided... it'll give you the issues, ups and downs of the two. i don't really know about thyroid issues, just read a lot of emails about it in passing. > RE: grapefruit > > wat is armour? wat would my doctor think about me going off > my thyroid med to do armour? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 armour is a form of dessicated thyroid tissue that is used instead of the synthroid drug. not sure, buti think armour is by prescription also, but works lots better. your doc might not like it. thyroid folks seem to feel it's best to switch docs until you find one willing to switch the meds. read into the link i provided... it'll give you the issues, ups and downs of the two. i don't really know about thyroid issues, just read a lot of emails about it in passing. > RE: grapefruit > > wat is armour? wat would my doctor think about me going off > my thyroid med to do armour? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 i just called my regular doc,the receptionist is going to get my question to her and call me back...i told her that i heard about this armour for thyroid and she says yes there are people taking it,and i said well i would like to know why she(my doc) didnt prescribe it to me so... she will get bac to me after she talks to my doc is this stuff safer for us or wats the deal? From: bob Larson <bobList@...> Subject: RE: grapefruit Hepatitis C Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 11:14 AM armour is a form of dessicated thyroid tissue that is used instead of the synthroid drug. not sure, buti think armour is by prescription also, but works lots better. your doc might not like it. thyroid folks seem to feel it's best to switch docs until you find one willing to switch the meds. read into the link i provided... it'll give you the issues, ups and downs of the two. i don't really know about thyroid issues, just read a lot of emails about it in passing. > RE: grapefruit > > wat is armour? wat would my doctor think about me going off > my thyroid med to do armour? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 i just called my regular doc,the receptionist is going to get my question to her and call me back...i told her that i heard about this armour for thyroid and she says yes there are people taking it,and i said well i would like to know why she(my doc) didnt prescribe it to me so... she will get bac to me after she talks to my doc is this stuff safer for us or wats the deal? From: bob Larson <bobList@...> Subject: RE: grapefruit Hepatitis C Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 11:14 AM armour is a form of dessicated thyroid tissue that is used instead of the synthroid drug. not sure, buti think armour is by prescription also, but works lots better. your doc might not like it. thyroid folks seem to feel it's best to switch docs until you find one willing to switch the meds. read into the link i provided... it'll give you the issues, ups and downs of the two. i don't really know about thyroid issues, just read a lot of emails about it in passing. > RE: grapefruit > > wat is armour? wat would my doctor think about me going off > my thyroid med to do armour? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 i just called my regular doc,the receptionist is going to get my question to her and call me back...i told her that i heard about this armour for thyroid and she says yes there are people taking it,and i said well i would like to know why she(my doc) didnt prescribe it to me so... she will get bac to me after she talks to my doc is this stuff safer for us or wats the deal? From: bob Larson <bobList@...> Subject: RE: grapefruit Hepatitis C Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 11:14 AM armour is a form of dessicated thyroid tissue that is used instead of the synthroid drug. not sure, buti think armour is by prescription also, but works lots better. your doc might not like it. thyroid folks seem to feel it's best to switch docs until you find one willing to switch the meds. read into the link i provided... it'll give you the issues, ups and downs of the two. i don't really know about thyroid issues, just read a lot of emails about it in passing. > RE: grapefruit > > wat is armour? wat would my doctor think about me going off > my thyroid med to do armour? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 i just called my regular doc,the receptionist is going to get my question to her and call me back...i told her that i heard about this armour for thyroid and she says yes there are people taking it,and i said well i would like to know why she(my doc) didnt prescribe it to me so... she will get bac to me after she talks to my doc is this stuff safer for us or wats the deal? From: bob Larson <bobList@...> Subject: RE: grapefruit Hepatitis C Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 11:14 AM armour is a form of dessicated thyroid tissue that is used instead of the synthroid drug. not sure, buti think armour is by prescription also, but works lots better. your doc might not like it. thyroid folks seem to feel it's best to switch docs until you find one willing to switch the meds. read into the link i provided... it'll give you the issues, ups and downs of the two. i don't really know about thyroid issues, just read a lot of emails about it in passing. > RE: grapefruit > > wat is armour? wat would my doctor think about me going off > my thyroid med to do armour? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 A compound that naturally occurs in grapefruit and other citrus fruits may be able to block the secretion of hepatitis C virus (HCV) from infected cells, a process required to maintain chronic infection. A team of researchers from the Massachusetts General Hospital Center for Engineering in Medicine (MGH-CEM) report that HCV is bound to very low-density lipoprotein (vLDL, a so-called " bad " cholesterol) when it is secreted from liver cells and that the viral secretion required to pass infection to other cells may be blocked by the common flavonoid naringenin. If the results of this study extend to human patients, a combination of naringenin and antiviral medication might allow patient to clear the virus from their livers. " By finding that HCV is secreted from infected cells by latching onto vLDL, we have identified a key pathway in the viral lifecycle, " says Yaakov Nahmias, PhD, of the MGH-CEM, the paper's lead author.* " These results suggest that lipid-lowering drugs, as well as supplements, such as naringenin, may be combined with traditional antiviral therapies to reduce or even eliminate HCV from infected patients. " HCV is the leading cause of chronic viral liver disease in the United States and infects about 3 percent of the world population. Current antiviral medications are effective in only half of infected patients, 70 percent of whom develop chronic infection that can lead to cirrhosis or liver cancer. Since the virus does not integrate its genetic material into the DNA of infected cells the way HIV does, totally clearing the virus could be possible if new cells were not being infected by secreted virus. " Identifying the route by which HCV is released from cells introduces a new therapeutic target, " says Yarmush, MD, PhD, director of the MGH-CEM and the paper's senior author. " That pathway's dependence on cholesterol metabolism could allow us to interfere with viral propagation to other cells and tissues, using tools already developed for atherosclerosis treatment. " Yarmush is the Helen Andrus Benedict Professor of Surgery and Bioengineering at Harvard Medical School (HMS). Grapefruit's bitter taste is caused the presence of the flavonoid naringin, which is metabolized into naringenin, an antioxidant previously reported to help lower cholesterol levels. Considerable research has suggested that HCV infects liver cells by, in essence, " hitching a ride " onto the natural lipoprotein-cholesterol metabolic pathway. Since earlier evidence has shown that naringenin can reduce secretion of vLDL from liver cells, the researchers examined whether the compound might also lower HCV secretion from infected cells. Their experiments confirmed that naringenin does reduce the secretion of HCV from infected cell lines and showed that the compound inhibits the mechanism for secreting a specific lipoprotein that binds HCV. " This work presents the possibility that non-toxic levels of a dietary supplement, such as naringenin, could effectively block HCV secretion, " says Chung, MD, MGH director of Hepatology and one of the study authors, " This approach might eventually be used to treat patients who do not respond to or cannot take traditional interferon-based treatment or be used in combination with other agents to boost success rates. " *The report will appear in an upcoming issue of the journal Hepatology and has been released online. Chung is an associate professor of Medicine at HMS, and Nahmias is an instructor in Surgery and Bioengineering. Additional co-authors of the Hepatology paper are Goldwasser, Casali, PhD, Daan van Poll, MD, MGH-CEM; and Takaji Wakita, MD, Tokyo Metropolitan Institute. The work was supported by grants from the National Institutes of Health and Shriners Hospitals for Children. That compound naringen is sold in health food stores everywhere but I would not waste my money on it until I researched the absorbtion rate taking it orally. Adapted from materials provided by Massachusetts General Hospital, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 A compound that naturally occurs in grapefruit and other citrus fruits may be able to block the secretion of hepatitis C virus (HCV) from infected cells, a process required to maintain chronic infection. A team of researchers from the Massachusetts General Hospital Center for Engineering in Medicine (MGH-CEM) report that HCV is bound to very low-density lipoprotein (vLDL, a so-called " bad " cholesterol) when it is secreted from liver cells and that the viral secretion required to pass infection to other cells may be blocked by the common flavonoid naringenin. If the results of this study extend to human patients, a combination of naringenin and antiviral medication might allow patient to clear the virus from their livers. " By finding that HCV is secreted from infected cells by latching onto vLDL, we have identified a key pathway in the viral lifecycle, " says Yaakov Nahmias, PhD, of the MGH-CEM, the paper's lead author.* " These results suggest that lipid-lowering drugs, as well as supplements, such as naringenin, may be combined with traditional antiviral therapies to reduce or even eliminate HCV from infected patients. " HCV is the leading cause of chronic viral liver disease in the United States and infects about 3 percent of the world population. Current antiviral medications are effective in only half of infected patients, 70 percent of whom develop chronic infection that can lead to cirrhosis or liver cancer. Since the virus does not integrate its genetic material into the DNA of infected cells the way HIV does, totally clearing the virus could be possible if new cells were not being infected by secreted virus. " Identifying the route by which HCV is released from cells introduces a new therapeutic target, " says Yarmush, MD, PhD, director of the MGH-CEM and the paper's senior author. " That pathway's dependence on cholesterol metabolism could allow us to interfere with viral propagation to other cells and tissues, using tools already developed for atherosclerosis treatment. " Yarmush is the Helen Andrus Benedict Professor of Surgery and Bioengineering at Harvard Medical School (HMS). Grapefruit's bitter taste is caused the presence of the flavonoid naringin, which is metabolized into naringenin, an antioxidant previously reported to help lower cholesterol levels. Considerable research has suggested that HCV infects liver cells by, in essence, " hitching a ride " onto the natural lipoprotein-cholesterol metabolic pathway. Since earlier evidence has shown that naringenin can reduce secretion of vLDL from liver cells, the researchers examined whether the compound might also lower HCV secretion from infected cells. Their experiments confirmed that naringenin does reduce the secretion of HCV from infected cell lines and showed that the compound inhibits the mechanism for secreting a specific lipoprotein that binds HCV. " This work presents the possibility that non-toxic levels of a dietary supplement, such as naringenin, could effectively block HCV secretion, " says Chung, MD, MGH director of Hepatology and one of the study authors, " This approach might eventually be used to treat patients who do not respond to or cannot take traditional interferon-based treatment or be used in combination with other agents to boost success rates. " *The report will appear in an upcoming issue of the journal Hepatology and has been released online. Chung is an associate professor of Medicine at HMS, and Nahmias is an instructor in Surgery and Bioengineering. Additional co-authors of the Hepatology paper are Goldwasser, Casali, PhD, Daan van Poll, MD, MGH-CEM; and Takaji Wakita, MD, Tokyo Metropolitan Institute. The work was supported by grants from the National Institutes of Health and Shriners Hospitals for Children. That compound naringen is sold in health food stores everywhere but I would not waste my money on it until I researched the absorbtion rate taking it orally. Adapted from materials provided by Massachusetts General Hospital, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 > It does initially give me some energy. I thought due to the sugar. Loni I can think of a few explanations for the increased energy from grapefruit: - the sugar - suppression of phase I liver detox - the acidity of the grapefruit, which would make someone who has an overly-alkaline pH feel better initially, but then feel worse later due to grapefruit having a long-term alkalinizing effect (that is, it acidifies in the short-term, but alkalinizes in the long-term) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Grapefruit inhibits some breakdown of chemicals in the gut, so if you take it with drugs or vitamins they are in effect more potent if they are subject to being digested into something else. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Marc <marc@...> wrote: > > > > It does initially give me some energy. I thought due to the sugar. Loni > > I can think of a few explanations for the increased energy from grapefruit: > > - the sugar > > - suppression of phase I liver detox > > - the acidity of the grapefruit, which would make someone > who has an overly-alkaline pH feel better initially, > but then feel worse later due to grapefruit having > a long-term alkalinizing effect (that is, it > acidifies in the short-term, but alkalinizes in > the long-term) > > Marc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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