Guest guest Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Sheri N., A most interesting posting of yours, and I very much appreciate your approaching this big, vital and very difficult subject in this way. I think this will interest many others on this list too. It's a crucial subject concerning vaccinations, I hold. I shall reflect (some more) on the questions you raised, and return later with some (still non-expert) comments. Rolf M. At 12:43 2006-10-23 +0100, you (Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...>) wrote: >X--Newman-Property:groups-email-ff >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary= " 2heGmnycGdl80g8KTsersC4SjhKF2ILfpGl9Uzb " > >I've attached this as a WORD DOC (usually this list doesn't accept >attachments, but I changed the settings for this email) > >BACTERIA/VIRUSES/?DISEASE > >Hi all, >It is difficult on this list to be always addressing this issue - DO >BACTERIA or VIRUSES " CAUSE " disease??? > >I will try to explain when I answer emails from now on, from both >perspectives - as if they do 'cause' disease and as if they don't 'cause' >disease. > >But I wanted to write up something specific and share links to other ways >of looking at this - that bacteria & viruses do NOT 'cause' disease. .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I've attached this as a WORD DOC (usually this list doesn't accept attachments, but I changed the settings for this email) BACTERIA/VIRUSES/?DISEASE Hi all, It is difficult on this list to be always addressing this issue - DO BACTERIA or VIRUSES " CAUSE " disease??? I will try to explain when I answer emails from now on, from both perspectives - as if they do 'cause' disease and as if they don't 'cause' disease. But I wanted to write up something specific and share links to other ways of looking at this - that bacteria & viruses do NOT 'cause' disease. Something is likely 'spread' - the energy of the illness, something stimulating release of toxins that is healthy (the illness of chickenpox, measles, etc). Something happens in childhood illnesses that might be very necessary for development of the immune system - but are the bacteria or viruses the cause?? Are they only present? Are they doing a job cleaning up? Is the illness important as it is the body's way of getting rid of toxins inherited and acquired in utero and early life? I am now writing up some of my ideas about germs, viruses, disease So, whether or not it is bacteria or viruses that are spreading something, the fact remains that something is communicated from one to another - somehow, someway. And it is the susceptibility of the person, the terrain, the state of the mind, body spirit, that matters when it comes to staying healthy or becoming ill. The symptoms of chickenpox exist and seem to spread through schools, families and neighborhoods The symptoms of measles, rubella, mumps, & pertussis, exist and seem to spread through schools, families & neighborhoods But does the above mean that a bacteria or virus CAUSES them? No. Does the existence of a bacteria or virus mean that it causes it? NO. Because they are detected to be there does not mean they CAUSED it. Just because I am found at the scene of a car accident and am trying to help, does not mean that I caused it. Because bacteria come to a stagnant pond and is cleaning it up, does mean that the bacteria caused the stagnant pond. They are there doing a job. Maybe the job is related to the illness, maybe not. The symptoms of poliomyelitis are very different - see my http://www.geocities.com/harpub for info on proof that polio was NOT infectious - did not spread from contacts, but was a toxic situation The smallpox situation is likely similar to the polio situation above. BUT much has become invested in the germ theory and that bacteria and viruses cause illness - an entrenched belief system that now makes lots of money for researchers, the medical industry including doctors, hospitals, insurance companies, drug and vaccine companies and every industry related to these. It will be very difficult to ever find the truth about all of this, at this point in time. Misinterpretation & absolute lies have tainted everything and likely we will never recover the truth until we are destroyed. A lot of this has to do with your worldview - are we part of a world that is purposeful and all things work to support life and health and we are part of that world - symbiosis. OR is the world a dangerous place where all kinds of things are out to get us. Things that are separate from us, harmful, dangerous. US and THEM. We have been programmed, especially in the last 100 years to fear disease and many things - it has been implanted it into the consciousness of all of us - why has this been done? Always look to 'who benefits' when you are questioning what someone is telling you. This type of propaganda that produces fear of disease is about greed. It can be used to reduce knowledge, compassion, understanding. It can be used to cause people to separate from each other. It divides us. Maybe we need to help the bacteria or virus (if it is doing a job) do its job more effectively. Help instead of fight it. We have a war mentality going on in every aspect of our life - fight it. This goes back, in part, to the time of Descartes ( & before) - separation of the mind, body and spirit. We are separate from the planet, we are separate from each other. BACTERIA I know that bacteria live on & in our bodies all the time Many/most of those are doing a job that is important - symbiotic (mutually beneficial) bacteria are instrumental in digestion, vitamin production, and other good work. a: producing vitamins (bacteria in the human gut produce vitamin K ) - Escherichia coli (a.k.a. E. coli) lives in the gut, where it helps digest food and produces Vitamin K Healthy bacteria are needed to help with digestion as they produce enzymes which, help to break down food. Some species of bacteria also produce B Complex Vitamins and assist in their assimilation by the intestines. Healthy bacteria also perform " house-cleaning " duties like helping to repair the intestinal mucosa lining the intestinal walls. b: live on our skin and protect us from many harmful agents. The drier areas, like the back, have few microbes; moist areas, such as under the arm, have many more c. In the body - consume and mop up dead and decaying matter - cleaning up toxic situation Bacteria in some cases produce toxins while doing these jobs and these may be what makes us sick if we are sickly all ready. Is that the bacteria's fault? Or is that the fault of the terrain - that it is so weakened and so sickly that it can't tolerate something normal going on in the body - bacteria breaking down dead stuff d. one of the indicators or symptoms that an organ or tissue is undergoing pathogenic changes, the causes of which have little to do with the presence or absence of the viruses or bacteria. e. maintain our atmosphere - Cyanobacteria (formerly known as blue-green algae) live in water, where they produce large amounts of the oxygen we breathe. f. Lactobacillus bulgaricus helps turn milk into cheese, yogurt, and other dairy products. Lactobacillus turns lactose, the sugar in milk, into lactic acid that wards off microbes that cause spoilage. g. Bacillus thuringiensis is also know as " Bt. " This common soil bacterium acts as a natural pest-killer in gardens and on crops. h. Propionibacterium freudenreichii - This bacterium produces carbon dioxide gas bubbles that burst in ripening cheese, leaving this cheese's trademark holes. i. Xanthomonas campestris - produces a slimy outer couting called xanthan. Xanthan gum is used as a thickening and stabilizing agent in many common products including water-based paints and cosmetics. j. Saccharomyces is also known as Baker's Yeast because it is used to make bread rise. This fungus also breaks down the natural sugars in grains or other starchy ingredients into carbon dioxide and ethanol (a.k.a. alcohol). k. Methanotrophs eat methane gas to clean up hazardous waste dumps and landfills. These methane-munching bacteria make an enzyme that can break down more than 250 nasty pollutants into harmless molecules. By piping methane into the soil, we can increase growth of the methanotrophs that normally live in the polluted soil. More methanotrophs means faster pollution break up. l. Acetobacter modifies glucose, making vitamin C as a by-product. m. Arbuscular is part of a soil-living fungus family. This fungus helps crops take up nutrients from the soil. n. Saccharomyces carlsbergensis - This fungus breaks down the natural sugars in grains to form ethanol and carbon dioxide (a.k.a. beer). o. Pseudomonas cleans waste from sewage water at water treatment plants. p. Acidophilus bacteria breaks down sugars and carbohydrates in milk, turning it into yogurt. This process is called fermentation. q. Bacteria are what decompose and use up dead plant and animal matter. r. Certain species of bacteria that live on the roots of plants actually " fix " nitrogen from the air, convert it to plant food, and feed the plants with essential plant nutrients. Rhizobia convert free nitrogen into a form that the plants can use in order to grow. s. Bacillus thuringiensis(Bt), has insecticidal properties and is used to control plant pests. t. The " average " American; that is, the one eating his or her daily " meat and chemicals " diet, carries in their large intestine alone 4-4 1/2 lbs of bacteria, or 1x10 18 , that is, more bacteria in their large intestine than there are cells in their body! http://www.alchemycalpages.com/infectious2.html u. maintain our atmosphere - Cyanobacteria (formerly known as blue-green algae) live in water, where they produce large amounts of the oxygen we breathe. ******** Here are some pages on the positive things about bacteria http://www.microbeworld.org/know/everyday.aspx http://www.microbeworld.org/microbes/bacteria/default.aspx http://www.microbeworld.org/microbes/virus_bacterium.aspx - some of how 'they' explain differences between bacteria & viruses Of course the above webpages buys into the idea that viruses & bacteria 'cause' disease - but that is one track that was taken back a few hundred years ago and there are others who did not have the perspective. ****** VIRUSES I don't know if there are such things as viruses as they have explained it to us If there are such things as viruses, I don't know that they 'cause' illness in everyone If there are such things as viruses, I don't know that they 'cause' illness in some If there are such things as viruses, they may be doing an important job helping to repair DNA, etc If there are such things as viruses & they are doing an important job, then we aren't helping by trying to destroy them. If there are such things as viruses, are they spread around? Is that a bad thing? Are they doing an important job? Are the childhood illnesses situations where the body has a chance to get rid of toxins and disturbances inherited, acquired while in utero, acquired at delivery and early life? Are these viral caused? Something else that we don't understand yet - a wave of energy, or something stimulating it. Are they early challenges of some sort to help build the immune system - idea that everything has a purpose on this planet and is doing a job that is necessary - nature is not against us http://www.alchemycalpages.com/infectious2.html INFECTIOUS ILLNESS. Part 2 " Now, no-one in their right mind, in seeing the body of a dead mouse covered with thousands of ants, would ever conclude that the swarm of ants were responsible for killing the mouse. No, the ants are eating and cleaning up and removing the decaying flesh of the already dead mouse. Conversely, no-one on their right mind would conclude that if we pour some insect killer on the swarm of ants in an attempt to eliminate them would restore life to the dead mouse. Yet, it is thought axiomatic today, in the scientific medical community, that if evidence of the presence of viruses or bacteria are found in an ill-person's body, that the virus or bacteria is the cause of the illness. This is analogous to concluding that because we find a swarm of ants consuming the body of a dead animal, the ants killed the animal. " " Therefore, finding more and more powerful antibiotics or anti-viral agents to kill the bacteria or virus will do absolutely nothing to help promote the revitalization and regeneration of the decaying organ or tissue being " mopped-up " by the bacteria or virus. " Further links Also might want to read (of course I DON'T agree with everything below, and some I haven't made my mind up about yet): Dr Stefan Lanka exposes the " Viral Fraud " (from 2002 - on purportedly existing " disease-causing viruses " in general): http://www.neue-medizin.com/lanka2.htm Interview with Stefan Lanka on " bird flu " etc 27.10.2005: http://www.klein-klein-aktion.de/contents/Bird_Flu/bird_flu.html or http://rolf-martens.com/otherspubs/051027_interview_s_lanka_on_bird_flu_etc.html An article by Stefan Lanka, 01.03.2006, " Are there and can there be diseasecausing viruses " (written in particular with a view to that big hoax about there existing a " bird flu virus " ): http://rolf-martens.com/otherspubs/060301_lanka_no_diseasecausing_viruses.html http://www.homeoint.org/books4/close/chapter06.htm The Genius of Homeopathy Lectures and Essays on Homeopathic Philosophy By Dr Stuart M. CLOSE Presented by Médi-T Chapter VI Life, Health and Disease http://freespace.virgin.net/ahcare.qua/literature/medical/viralinfections.html Viral Infections What do we know? by Dr Quanten MD Here are websites on natural hygiene (they don't buy into the germ theory) Here are some websites http://naturalhygienesociety.org/ http://www.doctoryourself.com/natural_hygiene.html www.whale.to/vaccines/shelton1.html www.drbass.com/disease-cure.html www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.toc.htm http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020132sinclair/vaccinaion.htm http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/raiseachild.html http://www.unhinderedliving.com/germtheory.html A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory http://whale.to/a/b/pearson.html THE DREAM AND LIE OF LOUIS PASTEUR by R. B. Pearson http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/articles.html Many interesting articles by Ian Sinclair He is right on! Germs - The Mistaken Enemy Immunity - A Medical Myth Vaccination - A False Premise Life-Long Immunity - No Such Thing Infectious Disease - A Misnomer Immunological Memory Is Not Enough The Immune System - Its True Role New Cough Vaccine! You Can't Build A Brick House Without The Bricks Safe Vaccines - What's The Point? What The Game Is All About Hepatitis - The Liver Cure http://tinyurl.com/yf6bq5 http://www.newtreatments.org/ Synthesis of the Work of Enderlein, Bechamps and other Pleomorphic Researchers http://whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm http://www.rawpaleodiet.org/pleomorphism-1.html http://www.euroamericanhealth.com/pleo.html PLEOMORPHISM (I'm not in agreement with isopathics which they have a link to toward the bottom & associate with this) also google on pleomorphism http://www.herbdatanz.com/pasteur_or_bechamp-pleomorphic_organisms-1.htm Pasteur or Bechamp? Pleomorphic Organisms Part~1 Ivor Nature Cure Philosophy & Practice Based on the Unity of Disease & Cure Henry Lindlahr, M.D. TWENTIETH EDITION Published by The Nature Cure Publishing Company 525 South Ashland Boulevard, Chicago 1922 http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020123lindlahr/020123ch5.html http://freespace.virgin.net/ahcare.qua/literature/medical/viralinfections.html Viral Infections What do we know? by Dr Quanten MD http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/07/05/hepatitis_c_epidemic_where_is_th\ e_virus.htm July 05, 2003 Hepatitis C epidemic - where is the virus? http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/terrain/lost_history_of_medicine.htm The Lost History of Medicine Sick and Tired?: Reclaim Your Inner Terrain Lots on that issue and how to eat more healthfully created a more alkaline environment BOOK here - excellent for this information - I don't agree that all should be vegetarian and also don't agree with pH numbers he says we should attain - from my study a pH of 6.4 in urine and saliva is the aim US http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D1580540562/wellwithinA/103-5985007-9909\ 426 UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1580540562/wellwithin-21/202-4772133-33\ 33440 CANADA http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1580540562/wellwithin09-20/701-3126171-342\ 3519 So, that's my offering of ideas and resources for further information for now! Lot's to think about and contemplate Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- copyright Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath, October 2006 http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm vaccineinfo@... 1 of 1 File(s) BACTERIA-VIRUSES-DISEASE.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I've attached this as a WORD DOC (usually this list doesn't accept attachments, but I changed the settings for this email) BACTERIA/VIRUSES/?DISEASE Hi all, It is difficult on this list to be always addressing this issue - DO BACTERIA or VIRUSES " CAUSE " disease??? I will try to explain when I answer emails from now on, from both perspectives - as if they do 'cause' disease and as if they don't 'cause' disease. But I wanted to write up something specific and share links to other ways of looking at this - that bacteria & viruses do NOT 'cause' disease. Something is likely 'spread' - the energy of the illness, something stimulating release of toxins that is healthy (the illness of chickenpox, measles, etc). Something happens in childhood illnesses that might be very necessary for development of the immune system - but are the bacteria or viruses the cause?? Are they only present? Are they doing a job cleaning up? Is the illness important as it is the body's way of getting rid of toxins inherited and acquired in utero and early life? I am now writing up some of my ideas about germs, viruses, disease So, whether or not it is bacteria or viruses that are spreading something, the fact remains that something is communicated from one to another - somehow, someway. And it is the susceptibility of the person, the terrain, the state of the mind, body spirit, that matters when it comes to staying healthy or becoming ill. The symptoms of chickenpox exist and seem to spread through schools, families and neighborhoods The symptoms of measles, rubella, mumps, & pertussis, exist and seem to spread through schools, families & neighborhoods But does the above mean that a bacteria or virus CAUSES them? No. Does the existence of a bacteria or virus mean that it causes it? NO. Because they are detected to be there does not mean they CAUSED it. Just because I am found at the scene of a car accident and am trying to help, does not mean that I caused it. Because bacteria come to a stagnant pond and is cleaning it up, does mean that the bacteria caused the stagnant pond. They are there doing a job. Maybe the job is related to the illness, maybe not. The symptoms of poliomyelitis are very different - see my http://www.geocities.com/harpub for info on proof that polio was NOT infectious - did not spread from contacts, but was a toxic situation The smallpox situation is likely similar to the polio situation above. BUT much has become invested in the germ theory and that bacteria and viruses cause illness - an entrenched belief system that now makes lots of money for researchers, the medical industry including doctors, hospitals, insurance companies, drug and vaccine companies and every industry related to these. It will be very difficult to ever find the truth about all of this, at this point in time. Misinterpretation & absolute lies have tainted everything and likely we will never recover the truth until we are destroyed. A lot of this has to do with your worldview - are we part of a world that is purposeful and all things work to support life and health and we are part of that world - symbiosis. OR is the world a dangerous place where all kinds of things are out to get us. Things that are separate from us, harmful, dangerous. US and THEM. We have been programmed, especially in the last 100 years to fear disease and many things - it has been implanted it into the consciousness of all of us - why has this been done? Always look to 'who benefits' when you are questioning what someone is telling you. This type of propaganda that produces fear of disease is about greed. It can be used to reduce knowledge, compassion, understanding. It can be used to cause people to separate from each other. It divides us. Maybe we need to help the bacteria or virus (if it is doing a job) do its job more effectively. Help instead of fight it. We have a war mentality going on in every aspect of our life - fight it. This goes back, in part, to the time of Descartes ( & before) - separation of the mind, body and spirit. We are separate from the planet, we are separate from each other. BACTERIA I know that bacteria live on & in our bodies all the time Many/most of those are doing a job that is important - symbiotic (mutually beneficial) bacteria are instrumental in digestion, vitamin production, and other good work. a: producing vitamins (bacteria in the human gut produce vitamin K ) - Escherichia coli (a.k.a. E. coli) lives in the gut, where it helps digest food and produces Vitamin K Healthy bacteria are needed to help with digestion as they produce enzymes which, help to break down food. Some species of bacteria also produce B Complex Vitamins and assist in their assimilation by the intestines. Healthy bacteria also perform " house-cleaning " duties like helping to repair the intestinal mucosa lining the intestinal walls. b: live on our skin and protect us from many harmful agents. The drier areas, like the back, have few microbes; moist areas, such as under the arm, have many more c. In the body - consume and mop up dead and decaying matter - cleaning up toxic situation Bacteria in some cases produce toxins while doing these jobs and these may be what makes us sick if we are sickly all ready. Is that the bacteria's fault? Or is that the fault of the terrain - that it is so weakened and so sickly that it can't tolerate something normal going on in the body - bacteria breaking down dead stuff d. one of the indicators or symptoms that an organ or tissue is undergoing pathogenic changes, the causes of which have little to do with the presence or absence of the viruses or bacteria. e. maintain our atmosphere - Cyanobacteria (formerly known as blue-green algae) live in water, where they produce large amounts of the oxygen we breathe. f. Lactobacillus bulgaricus helps turn milk into cheese, yogurt, and other dairy products. Lactobacillus turns lactose, the sugar in milk, into lactic acid that wards off microbes that cause spoilage. g. Bacillus thuringiensis is also know as " Bt. " This common soil bacterium acts as a natural pest-killer in gardens and on crops. h. Propionibacterium freudenreichii - This bacterium produces carbon dioxide gas bubbles that burst in ripening cheese, leaving this cheese's trademark holes. i. Xanthomonas campestris - produces a slimy outer couting called xanthan. Xanthan gum is used as a thickening and stabilizing agent in many common products including water-based paints and cosmetics. j. Saccharomyces is also known as Baker's Yeast because it is used to make bread rise. This fungus also breaks down the natural sugars in grains or other starchy ingredients into carbon dioxide and ethanol (a.k.a. alcohol). k. Methanotrophs eat methane gas to clean up hazardous waste dumps and landfills. These methane-munching bacteria make an enzyme that can break down more than 250 nasty pollutants into harmless molecules. By piping methane into the soil, we can increase growth of the methanotrophs that normally live in the polluted soil. More methanotrophs means faster pollution break up. l. Acetobacter modifies glucose, making vitamin C as a by-product. m. Arbuscular is part of a soil-living fungus family. This fungus helps crops take up nutrients from the soil. n. Saccharomyces carlsbergensis - This fungus breaks down the natural sugars in grains to form ethanol and carbon dioxide (a.k.a. beer). o. Pseudomonas cleans waste from sewage water at water treatment plants. p. Acidophilus bacteria breaks down sugars and carbohydrates in milk, turning it into yogurt. This process is called fermentation. q. Bacteria are what decompose and use up dead plant and animal matter. r. Certain species of bacteria that live on the roots of plants actually " fix " nitrogen from the air, convert it to plant food, and feed the plants with essential plant nutrients. Rhizobia convert free nitrogen into a form that the plants can use in order to grow. s. Bacillus thuringiensis(Bt), has insecticidal properties and is used to control plant pests. t. The " average " American; that is, the one eating his or her daily " meat and chemicals " diet, carries in their large intestine alone 4-4 1/2 lbs of bacteria, or 1x10 18 , that is, more bacteria in their large intestine than there are cells in their body! http://www.alchemycalpages.com/infectious2.html u. maintain our atmosphere - Cyanobacteria (formerly known as blue-green algae) live in water, where they produce large amounts of the oxygen we breathe. ******** Here are some pages on the positive things about bacteria http://www.microbeworld.org/know/everyday.aspx http://www.microbeworld.org/microbes/bacteria/default.aspx http://www.microbeworld.org/microbes/virus_bacterium.aspx - some of how 'they' explain differences between bacteria & viruses Of course the above webpages buys into the idea that viruses & bacteria 'cause' disease - but that is one track that was taken back a few hundred years ago and there are others who did not have the perspective. ****** VIRUSES I don't know if there are such things as viruses as they have explained it to us If there are such things as viruses, I don't know that they 'cause' illness in everyone If there are such things as viruses, I don't know that they 'cause' illness in some If there are such things as viruses, they may be doing an important job helping to repair DNA, etc If there are such things as viruses & they are doing an important job, then we aren't helping by trying to destroy them. If there are such things as viruses, are they spread around? Is that a bad thing? Are they doing an important job? Are the childhood illnesses situations where the body has a chance to get rid of toxins and disturbances inherited, acquired while in utero, acquired at delivery and early life? Are these viral caused? Something else that we don't understand yet - a wave of energy, or something stimulating it. Are they early challenges of some sort to help build the immune system - idea that everything has a purpose on this planet and is doing a job that is necessary - nature is not against us http://www.alchemycalpages.com/infectious2.html INFECTIOUS ILLNESS. Part 2 " Now, no-one in their right mind, in seeing the body of a dead mouse covered with thousands of ants, would ever conclude that the swarm of ants were responsible for killing the mouse. No, the ants are eating and cleaning up and removing the decaying flesh of the already dead mouse. Conversely, no-one on their right mind would conclude that if we pour some insect killer on the swarm of ants in an attempt to eliminate them would restore life to the dead mouse. Yet, it is thought axiomatic today, in the scientific medical community, that if evidence of the presence of viruses or bacteria are found in an ill-person's body, that the virus or bacteria is the cause of the illness. This is analogous to concluding that because we find a swarm of ants consuming the body of a dead animal, the ants killed the animal. " " Therefore, finding more and more powerful antibiotics or anti-viral agents to kill the bacteria or virus will do absolutely nothing to help promote the revitalization and regeneration of the decaying organ or tissue being " mopped-up " by the bacteria or virus. " Further links Also might want to read (of course I DON'T agree with everything below, and some I haven't made my mind up about yet): Dr Stefan Lanka exposes the " Viral Fraud " (from 2002 - on purportedly existing " disease-causing viruses " in general): http://www.neue-medizin.com/lanka2.htm Interview with Stefan Lanka on " bird flu " etc 27.10.2005: http://www.klein-klein-aktion.de/contents/Bird_Flu/bird_flu.html or http://rolf-martens.com/otherspubs/051027_interview_s_lanka_on_bird_flu_etc.html An article by Stefan Lanka, 01.03.2006, " Are there and can there be diseasecausing viruses " (written in particular with a view to that big hoax about there existing a " bird flu virus " ): http://rolf-martens.com/otherspubs/060301_lanka_no_diseasecausing_viruses.html http://www.homeoint.org/books4/close/chapter06.htm The Genius of Homeopathy Lectures and Essays on Homeopathic Philosophy By Dr Stuart M. CLOSE Presented by Médi-T Chapter VI Life, Health and Disease http://freespace.virgin.net/ahcare.qua/literature/medical/viralinfections.html Viral Infections What do we know? by Dr Quanten MD Here are websites on natural hygiene (they don't buy into the germ theory) Here are some websites http://naturalhygienesociety.org/ http://www.doctoryourself.com/natural_hygiene.html www.whale.to/vaccines/shelton1.html www.drbass.com/disease-cure.html www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.toc.htm http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020132sinclair/vaccinaion.htm http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/raiseachild.html http://www.unhinderedliving.com/germtheory.html A Faulty Medical Model: The Germ Theory http://whale.to/a/b/pearson.html THE DREAM AND LIE OF LOUIS PASTEUR by R. B. Pearson http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/articles.html Many interesting articles by Ian Sinclair He is right on! Germs - The Mistaken Enemy Immunity - A Medical Myth Vaccination - A False Premise Life-Long Immunity - No Such Thing Infectious Disease - A Misnomer Immunological Memory Is Not Enough The Immune System - Its True Role New Cough Vaccine! You Can't Build A Brick House Without The Bricks Safe Vaccines - What's The Point? What The Game Is All About Hepatitis - The Liver Cure http://tinyurl.com/yf6bq5 http://www.newtreatments.org/ Synthesis of the Work of Enderlein, Bechamps and other Pleomorphic Researchers http://whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm http://www.rawpaleodiet.org/pleomorphism-1.html http://www.euroamericanhealth.com/pleo.html PLEOMORPHISM (I'm not in agreement with isopathics which they have a link to toward the bottom & associate with this) also google on pleomorphism http://www.herbdatanz.com/pasteur_or_bechamp-pleomorphic_organisms-1.htm Pasteur or Bechamp? Pleomorphic Organisms Part~1 Ivor Nature Cure Philosophy & Practice Based on the Unity of Disease & Cure Henry Lindlahr, M.D. TWENTIETH EDITION Published by The Nature Cure Publishing Company 525 South Ashland Boulevard, Chicago 1922 http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020123lindlahr/020123ch5.html http://freespace.virgin.net/ahcare.qua/literature/medical/viralinfections.html Viral Infections What do we know? by Dr Quanten MD http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/07/05/hepatitis_c_epidemic_where_is_th\ e_virus.htm July 05, 2003 Hepatitis C epidemic - where is the virus? http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/terrain/lost_history_of_medicine.htm The Lost History of Medicine Sick and Tired?: Reclaim Your Inner Terrain Lots on that issue and how to eat more healthfully created a more alkaline environment BOOK here - excellent for this information - I don't agree that all should be vegetarian and also don't agree with pH numbers he says we should attain - from my study a pH of 6.4 in urine and saliva is the aim US http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D1580540562/wellwithinA/103-5985007-9909\ 426 UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1580540562/wellwithin-21/202-4772133-33\ 33440 CANADA http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1580540562/wellwithin09-20/701-3126171-342\ 3519 So, that's my offering of ideas and resources for further information for now! Lot's to think about and contemplate Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- copyright Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath, October 2006 http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm vaccineinfo@... 1 of 1 File(s) BACTERIA-VIRUSES-DISEASE.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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