MD Says Dangers Exceed Benefits Re: Smallpox Vaccine

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Tuesday, December 17, 2002

TOM MACK BLOWS THE JOINT APART

DECEMBER 17. The public does not realize that medical conferences are held

almost every day of the year, somewhere in this world, and that at these

conferences there are mainstream professionals who, now and then, spill a

few important beans which are overlooked by the press.

Such a conference---on the smallpox situation--- was held in Atlanta on June

19 and 20 of 2002. The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices heard a

number of speakers, one of which was Dr. Tom Mack of USC, who said about

himself:

“My credentials include probably spending more time working up [analyses of]

population-based outbreaks of smallpox than virtually anybody ever has.”

Mack had a few VERY interesting things to say.

“Most important determinant to the eventual number of [smallpox] cases is

whether or not somebody gets put in the hospital. And everything should be

done to prevent that.”

What? Well, Mack is simply making clear what everyone wants to deny: the

best place to spread an infection is the hospital. And since that is so, why

is there such a push to vaccinate hospital workers? The push should be to

keep smallpox cases out of the place altogether. Doesn’t quite line up with

the government picture of emergency measures for smallpox containment.

“Unexposed [to the smallpox disease] community members have negligible risk.

There is a substantial risk from a vaccine…It is the single most dangerous

live vaccine.”

“That protection [from the vaccine] will not be maintained. It will

gradually wane and we’ll have to do it [vaccination] again and again.” This

from a mainstream doc who has some level of faith in the protective value of

the vaccine. He is painting a very grim picture---people vaccinated again

and again, thereby increasing many times over the health danger of the

vaccine.

“The informed consent that you would have to prepare to vaccinate somebody

in the public, if it’s honest, would have to say that dangers would exceed

the benefits.” BOOM.

“If people are worried about endemic smallpox [long lingering or permanent

presence of the disease in the population], it disappeared from this country

not because of our mass herd immunity [derived from the vaccine]. It

disappeared because of our economic development. And that’s why it

disappeared from Europe and many other countries…[its disappearance is] not

from universal vaccination.”

That’s a wow and a half. Mack is echoing several medical historians who have

pointed out that better and less crowded housing, better nutrition, better

sanitation are the real reasons for the disappearance of smallpox---and a

host of other diseases. But Mack is not an historian. He’s a prominent USC

doc who has worked inside smallpox in several areas of the world.

Mack favors, by and large, containment of smallpox by isolating people who

have the disease.

But the US press has no stomach for protracted debates. I mean, why not do a

show on NBC where Mack and some government “expert” sit down and square off

and talk this out? Why not REALLY give both sides, instead of only

pretending to?

Would the public be interested? You bet.

Would the government be interested? Would the vaccine manufacturers be

interested? Ah, there is the rub.

No guts, no glory.

The TV networks have turned into complete mush, despite their “hard-hitting

pieces.” They fold up and walk away with their tails between their legs.

They rationalize their position by saying they don’t want to panic people,

they want preserve and serve national security, homeland security.

When HBO made its recent movie, Live From Baghdad, about CNN coverage of the

Gulf War, it failed to mention that CNN’s only real triumph was transmitting

live feed of lights showering the night-time sky. The movie was about the

valiant reporters who risked their lives to get that feed of white lights in

a green sky to the world.

It’s called a soap opera. Whereas journalism is supposed to be about facts,

and about where those facts lead.

Dr. Tom Mack had some real facts when he spoke in Atlanta last June.

Anybody out there have enough money to start a news channel? Want to rip the

lid off the networks? It’s a hell of a lot better bet than the NASDAQ.

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Friends,

Sorry, no URL available for this. This came from a subscription I have to

StratiaWire by Rappaport:

Tuesday, December 17, 2002

TOM MACK BLOWS THE JOINT APART

DECEMBER 17. The public does not realize that medical conferences are held

almost every day of the year, somewhere in this world, and that at these

conferences there are mainstream professionals who, now and then, spill a

few important beans which are overlooked by the press.

Such a conference---on the smallpox situation--- was held in Atlanta on June

19 and 20 of 2002. The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices heard a

number of speakers, one of which was Dr. Tom Mack of USC, who said about

himself:

“My credentials include probably spending more time working up [analyses of]

population-based outbreaks of smallpox than virtually anybody ever has.”

Mack had a few VERY interesting things to say.

“Most important determinant to the eventual number of [smallpox] cases is

whether or not somebody gets put in the hospital. And everything should be

done to prevent that.”

What? Well, Mack is simply making clear what everyone wants to deny: the

best place to spread an infection is the hospital. And since that is so, why

is there such a push to vaccinate hospital workers? The push should be to

keep smallpox cases out of the place altogether. Doesn’t quite line up with

the government picture of emergency measures for smallpox containment.

“Unexposed [to the smallpox disease] community members have negligible risk.

There is a substantial risk from a vaccine…It is the single most dangerous

live vaccine.”

“That protection [from the vaccine] will not be maintained. It will

gradually wane and we’ll have to do it [vaccination] again and again.” This

from a mainstream doc who has some level of faith in the protective value of

the vaccine. He is painting a very grim picture---people vaccinated again

and again, thereby increasing many times over the health danger of the

vaccine.

“The informed consent that you would have to prepare to vaccinate somebody

in the public, if it’s honest, would have to say that dangers would exceed

the benefits.” BOOM.

“If people are worried about endemic smallpox [long lingering or permanent

presence of the disease in the population], it disappeared from this country

not because of our mass herd immunity [derived from the vaccine]. It

disappeared because of our economic development. And that’s why it

disappeared from Europe and many other countries…[its disappearance is] not

from universal vaccination.”

That’s a wow and a half. Mack is echoing several medical historians who have

pointed out that better and less crowded housing, better nutrition, better

sanitation are the real reasons for the disappearance of smallpox---and a

host of other diseases. But Mack is not an historian. He’s a prominent USC

doc who has worked inside smallpox in several areas of the world.

Mack favors, by and large, containment of smallpox by isolating people who

have the disease.

But the US press has no stomach for protracted debates. I mean, why not do a

show on NBC where Mack and some government “expert” sit down and square off

and talk this out? Why not REALLY give both sides, instead of only

pretending to?

Would the public be interested? You bet.

Would the government be interested? Would the vaccine manufacturers be

interested? Ah, there is the rub.

No guts, no glory.

The TV networks have turned into complete mush, despite their “hard-hitting

pieces.” They fold up and walk away with their tails between their legs.

They rationalize their position by saying they don’t want to panic people,

they want preserve and serve national security, homeland security.

When HBO made its recent movie, Live From Baghdad, about CNN coverage of the

Gulf War, it failed to mention that CNN’s only real triumph was transmitting

live feed of lights showering the night-time sky. The movie was about the

valiant reporters who risked their lives to get that feed of white lights in

a green sky to the world.

It’s called a soap opera. Whereas journalism is supposed to be about facts,

and about where those facts lead.

Dr. Tom Mack had some real facts when he spoke in Atlanta last June.

Anybody out there have enough money to start a news channel? Want to rip the

lid off the networks? It’s a hell of a lot better bet than the NASDAQ.

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