Guest guest Posted October 16, 2001 Report Share Posted October 16, 2001 I go back and forth with soy and then end up cheating and doing dairy and I am wondering what others are doing as far as eating dairy or not. I find when I am off the dairy I do feel better but lately I have been substituting hot chocalate for my usual morning coffee, I think it is making me feel worse and what I understand about autoimmune diseases is that dairy products can stimulate antibodies and cause us more pain and inflammation, so I think I am going to once again kick the dairy habit. I got a blender and stocked up on some soy protein powder and will make morning shakes instead of coffee or cocoa and see how it works out. I also was curious because I have read that while we should avoid dairy that non fat yogurt is an exception to the rule, does anyone know anything about this? I really like yogurt in my smoothies. Thanks for the info and any feedback, love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 , I pretty much avoid dairy too, but I do cheat once in awhile with cheese, like on pizza or on a homemade sub sandwich. I don't think once in awhile is really bad for us. Yogurt, made with correct ingredients can be beneficial in establishing good bacteria colonies in the gut. Excluded are yogurts made with gelatins and which have absolutely no live bacteria in them. You need to look for the icon that says "live active cultures" and look for l.acidophilus, or l.bifidus in them. I only buy organic yogurt when I do buy it, or else make my own with a yogurt maker. You will just have to try it and see if you have any adverse reactions. I eat yogurt and dairy rarely, because I just am not sure how my body is dealing with it. Like I said, I can cheat once in awhile, but I do not feel good about eating it often. Casein seems to be the main culprit for those with allegies. Then there are those who are lactose intolerant--they lack the right enzymes to digest it, which can develop later in life. For those without allergies or problems with lactose, unless you drink organic milk, there are also the issues of the stuff they inject into the dairy herds that are bad --like rBST, rBGH (growth hormones that are reputed to be cancer causing) and the antibiotics that they load the cows up on. That all comes out in the milk and is bad for everyone. Basically milk is for babies, and that is about it. Humans are the only mammals who drink milk beyond infancy. Drinking milk is risky business, according to Cohen ("Milk, the Deadly Poison"), and for those concerned about getting enough calcium, green leafy vegetables are a much better source of organic calcium anyway! Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: <cjheer@...> < > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:08 PM Subject: Question on Soy VS Dairy > I go back and forth with soy and then end up cheating and doing dairy > and I am wondering what others are doing as far as eating dairy or > not.> > I find when I am off the dairy I do feel better but lately I have > been substituting hot chocalate for my usual morning coffee, I think > it is making me feel worse and what I understand about autoimmune > diseases is that dairy products can stimulate antibodies and cause us > more pain and inflammation, so I think I am going to once again kick > the dairy habit.> > I got a blender and stocked up on some soy protein powder and will > make morning shakes instead of coffee or cocoa and see how it works > out.> > I also was curious because I have read that while we should avoid > dairy that non fat yogurt is an exception to the rule, does anyone > know anything about this? I really like yogurt in my smoothies.> > Thanks for the info and any feedback, love > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 I should have added that there are other ways to get the good colonies in the gut besides yogurt. This falls into the class of fermented foods, and includes things like raw sauerkraut (not cooked, because cooking destroys the enzymes), kimchi, miso...there are others, but my mind is blank. Kefir is another fermented dairy product. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: Patty Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 6:24 PM Subject: Re: Question on Soy VS Dairy , I pretty much avoid dairy too, but I do cheat once in awhile with cheese, like on pizza or on a homemade sub sandwich. I don't think once in awhile is really bad for us. Yogurt, made with correct ingredients can be beneficial in establishing good bacteria colonies in the gut. Excluded are yogurts made with gelatins and which have absolutely no live bacteria in them. You need to look for the icon that says "live active cultures" and look for l.acidophilus, or l.bifidus in them. I only buy organic yogurt when I do buy it, or else make my own with a yogurt maker. You will just have to try it and see if you have any adverse reactions. I eat yogurt and dairy rarely, because I just am not sure how my body is dealing with it. Like I said, I can cheat once in awhile, but I do not feel good about eating it often. Casein seems to be the main culprit for those with allegies. Then there are those who are lactose intolerant--they lack the right enzymes to digest it, which can develop later in life. For those without allergies or problems with lactose, unless you drink organic milk, there are also the issues of the stuff they inject into the dairy herds that are bad --like rBST, rBGH (growth hormones that are reputed to be cancer causing) and the antibiotics that they load the cows up on. That all comes out in the milk and is bad for everyone. Basically milk is for babies, and that is about it. Humans are the only mammals who drink milk beyond infancy. Drinking milk is risky business, according to Cohen ("Milk, the Deadly Poison"), and for those concerned about getting enough calcium, green leafy vegetables are a much better source of organic calcium anyway! Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: <cjheer@...> < > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:08 PM Subject: Question on Soy VS Dairy > I go back and forth with soy and then end up cheating and doing dairy > and I am wondering what others are doing as far as eating dairy or > not.> > I find when I am off the dairy I do feel better but lately I have > been substituting hot chocalate for my usual morning coffee, I think > it is making me feel worse and what I understand about autoimmune > diseases is that dairy products can stimulate antibodies and cause us > more pain and inflammation, so I think I am going to once again kick > the dairy habit.> > I got a blender and stocked up on some soy protein powder and will > make morning shakes instead of coffee or cocoa and see how it works > out.> > I also was curious because I have read that while we should avoid > dairy that non fat yogurt is an exception to the rule, does anyone > know anything about this? I really like yogurt in my smoothies.> > Thanks for the info and any feedback, love > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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