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" " The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United States to

mandate, either directly or under threat of penalty, that all citizens

and legal residents have qualifying health care coverage, " the

lawsuit says. "

" " This is the first time in American history where American

citizens will be forced to buy a particular good or service, " said

Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined

the lawsuit. "

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13 attorneys general sue over health care overhaul

March 23, 2010

ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13 states sued the federal

government Tuesday, claiming the landmark health care overhaul is

unconstitutional just seven minutes after President Barack Obama signed

it into law.

The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the Democratic president signed

the bill the House passed Sunday night.

" The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United States to mandate,

either directly or under threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal

residents have qualifying health care coverage, " the lawsuit

says.

Legal experts say it has little chance of succeeding because, under the

Constitution, federal laws trump state laws.

Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking the lead and is joined

by attorneys general from South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan,

Utah, Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho, Washington, Colorado

and Louisiana. All are Republicans except " Buddy "

Caldwell of Louisiana, who is a Democrat.

Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­ Virginia filed its own

Tuesday ­ and still others may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the

More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian legal advocacy group,

sued on behalf of itself and four people it says don't have private

health insurance and object to being told they have to purchase

it.

McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed the 13-state lawsuit

for several weeks, asking other GOP attorneys general to join him. He

says the federal government cannot constitutionally require people to get

health coverage and argues the bill will cause " substantial harm and

financial burden " to the states.

The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th Amendment, which says the

federal government has no authority beyond the powers granted to it under

the Constitution, by forcing the states to carry out its provisions but

not reimbursing them for the costs.

It also says the states can't afford the new law. Using Florida as an

example, the lawsuit says the overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people

to the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an additional $150

million in 2014, growing to $1 billion a year by 2019.

South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster, who is also running for

governor in his state, said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect

his state's sovereignty.

" A legal challenge by the states appears to be the only hope of

protecting the American people from this unprecedented attack on our

system of government, " he said.

But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches constitutional law at the

New England School of Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed that

it has little chance of success. He said he can't imagine a scenario

where a judge would stop implementation of the health care bill.

Some states are also looking at other ways to avoid participating in the

overhaul. Virginia and Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking

the bill's insurance requirement from taking effect, and the

Republican-led Legislature in Florida is trying to put a constitutional

amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt the state from the

federal law's requirements. At least 60 percent of voters would have to

approve.

Under the bill, starting in six months, health insurance companies would

be required to keep young adults as beneficiaries on their parents' plans

until they turn 26, and companies would no longer be allowed to deny

coverage to sick children.

Other changes would not kick in until 2014.

That's when most Americans will for the first time be required to carry

health insurance ­ either through an employer or government program or by

buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax penalties.

" This is the first time in American history where American citizens

will be forced to buy a particular good or service, " said Nebraska

Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined the

lawsuit.

Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will start flowing to

middle-class working families with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and

Medicaid will be expanded to cover more low-income people.

No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for the bill.

___

Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia, S.C., and Josh Funk in

Omaha, Neb., contributed to this report.

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" " The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United States to

mandate, either directly or under threat of penalty, that all citizens

and legal residents have qualifying health care coverage, " the

lawsuit says. "

" " This is the first time in American history where American

citizens will be forced to buy a particular good or service, " said

Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined

the lawsuit. "

http://news./s/ap/20100323/ap_on_re_us/us_health_overhaul_lawsuit

13 attorneys general sue over health care overhaul

March 23, 2010

ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13 states sued the federal

government Tuesday, claiming the landmark health care overhaul is

unconstitutional just seven minutes after President Barack Obama signed

it into law.

The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the Democratic president signed

the bill the House passed Sunday night.

" The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United States to mandate,

either directly or under threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal

residents have qualifying health care coverage, " the lawsuit

says.

Legal experts say it has little chance of succeeding because, under the

Constitution, federal laws trump state laws.

Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking the lead and is joined

by attorneys general from South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan,

Utah, Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho, Washington, Colorado

and Louisiana. All are Republicans except " Buddy "

Caldwell of Louisiana, who is a Democrat.

Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­ Virginia filed its own

Tuesday ­ and still others may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the

More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian legal advocacy group,

sued on behalf of itself and four people it says don't have private

health insurance and object to being told they have to purchase

it.

McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed the 13-state lawsuit

for several weeks, asking other GOP attorneys general to join him. He

says the federal government cannot constitutionally require people to get

health coverage and argues the bill will cause " substantial harm and

financial burden " to the states.

The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th Amendment, which says the

federal government has no authority beyond the powers granted to it under

the Constitution, by forcing the states to carry out its provisions but

not reimbursing them for the costs.

It also says the states can't afford the new law. Using Florida as an

example, the lawsuit says the overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people

to the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an additional $150

million in 2014, growing to $1 billion a year by 2019.

South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster, who is also running for

governor in his state, said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect

his state's sovereignty.

" A legal challenge by the states appears to be the only hope of

protecting the American people from this unprecedented attack on our

system of government, " he said.

But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches constitutional law at the

New England School of Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed that

it has little chance of success. He said he can't imagine a scenario

where a judge would stop implementation of the health care bill.

Some states are also looking at other ways to avoid participating in the

overhaul. Virginia and Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking

the bill's insurance requirement from taking effect, and the

Republican-led Legislature in Florida is trying to put a constitutional

amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt the state from the

federal law's requirements. At least 60 percent of voters would have to

approve.

Under the bill, starting in six months, health insurance companies would

be required to keep young adults as beneficiaries on their parents' plans

until they turn 26, and companies would no longer be allowed to deny

coverage to sick children.

Other changes would not kick in until 2014.

That's when most Americans will for the first time be required to carry

health insurance ­ either through an employer or government program or by

buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax penalties.

" This is the first time in American history where American citizens

will be forced to buy a particular good or service, " said Nebraska

Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined the

lawsuit.

Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will start flowing to

middle-class working families with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and

Medicaid will be expanded to cover more low-income people.

No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for the bill.

___

Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia, S.C., and Josh Funk in

Omaha, Neb., contributed to this report.

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian

Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA

Vaccines -

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From: Sheri Nakken <vaccinedangers@...>Subject: 13 attorneys general sue over health care overhaulDate: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 1:31 PM

""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United States to mandate, either directly or under threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal residents have qualifying health care coverage," the lawsuit says."""This is the first time in American history where American citizens will be forced to buy a particular good or service," said Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined the lawsuit."http://news. / s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ us/us_health_ overhaul_ lawsuit 13 attorneys general sue over health care overhaulMarch 23, 2010ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13 states sued the federal government Tuesday, claiming the landmark health care overhaul is unconstitutional just seven minutes after President Barack Obama signed it into law.The lawsuit was

filed in Pensacola after the Democratic president signed the bill the House passed Sunday night."The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United States to mandate, either directly or under threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal residents have qualifying health care coverage," the lawsuit says.Legal experts say it has little chance of succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal laws trump state laws.Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking the lead and is joined by attorneys general from South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah, Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho, Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana, who is a Democrat.Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­ Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian legal

advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself and four people it says don't have private health insurance and object to being told they have to purchase it.McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says the federal government cannot constitutionally require people to get health coverage and argues the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial burden" to the states.The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th Amendment, which says the federal government has no authority beyond the powers granted to it under the Constitution, by forcing the states to carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for the costs.It also says the states can't afford the new law. Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an additional $150 million in

2014, growing to $1 billion a year by 2019.South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster, who is also running for governor in his state, said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his state's sovereignty."A legal challenge by the states appears to be the only hope of protecting the American people from this unprecedented attack on our system of government," he said.But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches constitutional law at the New England School of Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed that it has little chance of success. He said he can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop implementation of the health care bill.Some states are also looking at other ways to avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking the bill's insurance requirement from taking effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in Florida is trying to put a constitutional

amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt the state from the federal law's requirements. At least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.Under the bill, starting in six months, health insurance companies would be required to keep young adults as beneficiaries on their parents' plans until they turn 26, and companies would no longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.Other changes would not kick in until 2014.That's when most Americans will for the first time be required to carry health insurance ­ either through an employer or government program or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax penalties."This is the first time in American history where American citizens will be forced to buy a particular good or service," said Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined the lawsuit.Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will start flowing to

middle-class working families with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid will be expanded to cover more low-income people. No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for the bill. ___ Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia, S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this report.

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www.nutritiousanddeliciousfoods.blogspot.com--- On Tue, 3/23/10, Sheri Nakken <vaccinedangers@...> wrote:

From: Sheri Nakken <vaccinedangers@...>Subject: 13 attorneys general sue over health care overhaulDate: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 1:31 PM

""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United States to mandate, either directly or under threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal residents have qualifying health care coverage," the lawsuit says."""This is the first time in American history where American citizens will be forced to buy a particular good or service," said Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined the lawsuit."http://news. / s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ us/us_health_ overhaul_ lawsuit 13 attorneys general sue over health care overhaulMarch 23, 2010ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13 states sued the federal government Tuesday, claiming the landmark health care overhaul is unconstitutional just seven minutes after President Barack Obama signed it into law.The lawsuit was

filed in Pensacola after the Democratic president signed the bill the House passed Sunday night."The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United States to mandate, either directly or under threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal residents have qualifying health care coverage," the lawsuit says.Legal experts say it has little chance of succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal laws trump state laws.Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking the lead and is joined by attorneys general from South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah, Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho, Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana, who is a Democrat.Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­ Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian legal

advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself and four people it says don't have private health insurance and object to being told they have to purchase it.McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says the federal government cannot constitutionally require people to get health coverage and argues the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial burden" to the states.The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th Amendment, which says the federal government has no authority beyond the powers granted to it under the Constitution, by forcing the states to carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for the costs.It also says the states can't afford the new law. Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an additional $150 million in

2014, growing to $1 billion a year by 2019.South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster, who is also running for governor in his state, said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his state's sovereignty."A legal challenge by the states appears to be the only hope of protecting the American people from this unprecedented attack on our system of government," he said.But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches constitutional law at the New England School of Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed that it has little chance of success. He said he can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop implementation of the health care bill.Some states are also looking at other ways to avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking the bill's insurance requirement from taking effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in Florida is trying to put a constitutional

amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt the state from the federal law's requirements. At least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.Under the bill, starting in six months, health insurance companies would be required to keep young adults as beneficiaries on their parents' plans until they turn 26, and companies would no longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.Other changes would not kick in until 2014.That's when most Americans will for the first time be required to carry health insurance ­ either through an employer or government program or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax penalties."This is the first time in American history where American citizens will be forced to buy a particular good or service," said Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined the lawsuit.Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will start flowing to

middle-class working families with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid will be expanded to cover more low-income people. No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for the bill. ___ Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia, S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this report.

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....although I suppose the difference is you don't have to buy it if you don't have a car.

Winnie 13 attorneys general sue over health > care overhaul> Recipient list suppressed: ;> > > ""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United > > States to mandate, either directly or under > > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal > > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the lawsuit says."> > > > ""This is the first time in American history > > where American citizens will be forced to buy a > > particular good or service," said Nebraska > > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined > > the lawsuit."> > > > > http://news./s/ap/20100323/ap_on_re_us/us_health_overhaul_lawsuit> 13 attorneys general sue over health care overhaul> > > > March 23, 2010> > > > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13 > > states sued the federal government Tuesday, > > claiming the landmark health care overhaul is > > unconstitutional just seven minutes after > > President Barack Obama signed it into law.> > > > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the > > Democratic president signed the bill the House passed Sunday night.> > > > "The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United > > States to mandate, either directly or under > > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal > > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the lawsuit says.> > > > Legal experts say it has little chance of > > succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal laws trump > > state laws.> > > > Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking > > the lead and is joined by attorneys general from > > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah, > > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho, > > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are > > Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana, who is > a > > Democrat.> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­ > > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others > > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the > > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian > > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself > > and four people it says don't have private health > > insurance and object to being told they have to purchase it.> > > > McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed > > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking > > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says > > the federal government cannot constitutionally > > require people to get health coverage and argues > > the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial burden" to > > the states.> > > > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th > > Amendment, which says the federal government has > > no authority beyond the powers granted to it > > under the Constitution, by forcing the states to > > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for the costs.> > > > It also says the states can't afford the new law. > > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the > > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to > > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an > > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 billion a year > by 2019.> > > > South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster, > > who is also running for governor in his state, > > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his state's > > sovereignty.> > "A legal challenge by the states appears to be > > the only hope of protecting the American people > > from this unprecedented attack on our system of government," > he said.> > > > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches > > constitutional law at the New England School of > > Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed > > that it has little chance of success. He said he > > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop > > implementation of the health care bill.> > > > Some states are also looking at other ways to > > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and > > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking > > the bill's insurance requirement from taking > > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in > > Florida is trying to put a constitutional > > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt > > the state from the federal law's requirements. At > > least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.> > > > Under the bill, starting in six months, health > > insurance companies would be required to keep > > young adults as beneficiaries on their parents' > > plans until they turn 26, and companies would no > > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.> > > > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.> > > > That's when most Americans will for the first > > time be required to carry health insurance ­ > > either through an employer or government program > > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax > penalties.> > > "This is the first time in American history where > > American citizens will be forced to buy a > > particular good or service," said Nebraska > > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined > > the lawsuit.> > > > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will > > start flowing to middle-class working families > > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid > > will be expanded to cover more low-income people.> > > > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for the bill.> > > > ___> > > > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia, > > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this report.> > > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA> > Vaccines - > > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes > > start March 24, March 31, & April 1> > >

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yes, but a car isn't required to live

in order to live free we are forced to buy disease-care

insurance?

At 05:35 PM 3/23/2010, you wrote:

We're also forced to buy car

insurance.

Winnie

13 attorneys general sue over health care

overhaul

Recipient list suppressed: ;

> " " The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United

> States to mandate, either directly or under

> threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal

> residents have qualifying health care coverage, " the lawsuit

says. "

>

> " " This is the first time in American history

> where American citizens will be forced to buy a

> particular good or service, " said Nebraska

> Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined

> the lawsuit. "

>

>

http://news./s/ap/20100323/ap_on_re_us/us_health_overhaul_lawsuit

> 13 attorneys general sue over health care overhaul

>

> March 23, 2010

>

> ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13

> states sued the federal government Tuesday,

> claiming the landmark health care overhaul is

> unconstitutional just seven minutes after

> President Barack Obama signed it into law.

>

> The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the

> Democratic president signed the bill the House passed Sunday

night.

>

> " The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United

> States to mandate, either directly or under

> threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal

> residents have qualifying health care coverage, " the lawsuit

says.

>

> Legal experts say it has little chance of

> succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal laws trump

> state laws.

>

> Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking

> the lead and is joined by attorneys general from

> South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah,

> Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,

> Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are

> Republicans except " Buddy " Caldwell of Louisiana,

who is a

> Democrat.

> Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­

> Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others

> may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the

> More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian

> legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself

> and four people it says don't have private health

> insurance and object to being told they have to purchase it.

>

> McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed

> the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking

> other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says

> the federal government cannot constitutionally

> require people to get health coverage and argues

> the bill will cause " substantial harm and financial

burden " to

> the states.

>

> The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th

> Amendment, which says the federal government has

> no authority beyond the powers granted to it

> under the Constitution, by forcing the states to

> carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for the

costs.

>

> It also says the states can't afford the new law.

> Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the

> overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to

> the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an

> additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 billion a year by

2019.

>

> South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster,

> who is also running for governor in his state,

> said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his state's

> sovereignty.

> " A legal challenge by the states appears to be

> the only hope of protecting the American people

> from this unprecedented attack on our system of government, " he

said.

>

> But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches

> constitutional law at the New England School of

> Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed

> that it has little chance of success. He said he

> can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop

> implementation of the health care bill.

>

> Some states are also looking at other ways to

> avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and

> Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking

> the bill's insurance requirement from taking

> effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in

> Florida is trying to put a constitutional

> amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt

> the state from the federal law's requirements. At

> least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.

>

> Under the bill, starting in six months, health

> insurance companies would be required to keep

> young adults as beneficiaries on their parents'

> plans until they turn 26, and companies would no

> longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.

>

> Other changes would not kick in until 2014.

>

> That's when most Americans will for the first

> time be required to carry health insurance ­

> either through an employer or government program

> or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax

penalties.

>

> " This is the first time in American history where

> American citizens will be forced to buy a

> particular good or service, " said Nebraska

> Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined

> the lawsuit.

>

> Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will

> start flowing to middle-class working families

> with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid

> will be expanded to cover more low-income people.

>

> No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for the bill.

>

> ___

>

> Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia,

> S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this report.

>

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State,

USA

> Vaccines -

>

http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/

> Homeopathy

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> Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes &

> Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes

> start March 24, March 31, & April 1

>

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My problem w/ the whole car insurance comparison, is that is primarily to PROTECT the other person if you are involved in an accident...not necessarily for your OWN protection...so mandating health insurance for all is not exactly the same thing.....driving a car is a privilege, not a right and it can be taken away if you don't have proper licensing, registration and insurance..with all the things they are requiring in this bill, it seems they are equating us to cars..something you OWNLoriFrom: Charlotte kson

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Also isn't the amount of car insurance we have to get mandated by theSTATES and not by the feds? That's the biggest problem for me with allof this. The feds trampling states' rights. States are supposed to belaboratories of democracy - such as trying out new ideas likemandating health insurance. Then individual states can go to potinstead of the whole nation.CharlotteOn 3/23/10, wharrison@... <wharrison@...> wrote:> ...although I suppose the difference is you don't have to buy it if you> don't have a car.>> Winnie>> 13 attorneys general sue over health>> care overhaul>> Recipient list suppressed: ;>>>> > ""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United>> > States to mandate, either directly or under>> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal>> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the lawsuit says.">> >>> > ""This is

the first time in American history>> > where American citizens will be forced to buy a>> > particular good or service," said Nebraska>> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined>> > the lawsuit.">> >>> >>> http://news./s/ap/20100323/ap_on_re_us/us_health_overhaul_lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over health care overhaul>> >>> > March 23, 2010>> >>> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13>> > states sued the federal government Tuesday,>> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul is>> > unconstitutional just seven minutes after>> > President Barack Obama signed it into law.>>

>>> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the>> > Democratic president signed the bill the House passed Sunday night.>> >>> > "The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United>> > States to mandate, either directly or under>> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal>> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the lawsuit says.>> >>> > Legal experts say it has little chance of>> > succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal laws trump>> > state laws.>> >>> > Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking>> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general from>> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah,>> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,>> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All

are>> > Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana, who is>> a>> > Democrat.>> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­>> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others>> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the>> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian>> > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself>> > and four people it says don't have private health>> > insurance and object to being told they have to purchase it.>> >>> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed>> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking>> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says>> > the federal government cannot constitutionally>> > require people to get health coverage and argues>> > the bill

will cause "substantial harm and financial burden" to>> > the states.>> >>> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th>> > Amendment, which says the federal government has>> > no authority beyond the powers granted to it>> > under the Constitution, by forcing the states to>> > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for the costs.>> >>> > It also says the states can't afford the new law.>> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the>> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to>> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an>> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 billion a year>> by 2019.>> >>> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster,>> > who is also running for governor in his

state,>> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his state's>> > sovereignty.>> > "A legal challenge by the states appears to be>> > the only hope of protecting the American people>> > from this unprecedented attack on our system of government,">> he said.>> >>> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches>> > constitutional law at the New England School of>> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed>> > that it has little chance of success. He said he>> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop>> > implementation of the health care bill.>> >>> > Some states are also looking at other ways to>> > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and>> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking>>

> the bill's insurance requirement from taking>> > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in>> > Florida is trying to put a constitutional>> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt>> > the state from the federal law's requirements. At>> > least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.>> >>> > Under the bill, starting in six months, health>> > insurance companies would be required to keep>> > young adults as beneficiaries on their parents'>> > plans until they turn 26, and companies would no>> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.>> >>> > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.>> >>> > That's when most Americans will for the first>> > time be required to carry health insurance ­>> > either

through an employer or government program>> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax>> penalties.>>> > "This is the first time in American history where>> > American citizens will be forced to buy a>> > particular good or service," said Nebraska>> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined>> > the lawsuit.>> >>> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will>> > start flowing to middle-class working families>> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid>> > will be expanded to cover more low-income people.>> >>> > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for the bill.>> >>> > ___>> >>> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia,>> > S.C., and Josh

Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this report.>> >>> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath>> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA>> > Vaccines ->> > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/>> > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com>> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes>> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1>> >>>>------------------------------------

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I'm wondering if all those who voted on it actually understand it. My biggest concern is that it's not about health care. It's about health insurance. If only we could get away from the stranglehold insurance and pharmaceutical companies have on true health care...

There's a link in this article to the actual bill: (http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/health.care/?hpt=T1). I'm going to go read it now.

Winnie 13 attorneys general sue over health> > >> care overhaul> > >> Recipient list suppressed: ;> > >>> > >> > ""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > lawsuit says."> > >> >> > >> > ""This is the first time in American history> > >> > where American citizens will be forced to buy a> > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > >> > the lawsuit."> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > http://news. / s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ us/us_health_ > overhaul_ lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over health care > overhaul> >> >> > >> > March 23, 2010> > >> >> > >> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13> > >> > states sued the federal government Tuesday,> > >> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul is> > >> > unconstitutional just seven minutes after> > >> > President Barack Obama signed it into law.> > >> >> > >> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the> > >> > Democratic president signed the bill the House passed > > Sunday night.> > >> >> > >> > "The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > lawsuit says.> > >> >> > >> > Legal experts say it has little chance of> > >> > succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal laws trump> > >> > state laws.> > >> >> > >> > Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking> > >> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general from> > >> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah,> > >> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,> > >> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are> > >> > Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana, > who is> > >> a> > >> > Democrat.> > >> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­> > >> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others> > >> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the> > >> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian> > >> > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself> > >> > and four people it says don't have private health> > >> > insurance and object to being told they have to purchase it.> > >> >> > >> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed> > >> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking> > >> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says> > >> > the federal government cannot constitutionally> > >> > require people to get health coverage and argues> > >> > the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial > burden" to> > >> > the states.> > >> >> > >> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th> > >> > Amendment, which says the federal government has> > >> > no authority beyond the powers granted to it> > >> > under the Constitution, by forcing the states to> > >> > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for the > costs.> >> >> > >> > It also says the states can't afford the new law.> > >> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the> > >> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to> > >> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an> > >> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 billion a year> > >> by 2019.> > >> >> > >> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster,> > >> > who is also running for governor in his state,> > >> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his state's> > >> > sovereignty.> > >> > "A legal challenge by the states appears to be> > >> > the only hope of protecting the American people> > >> > from this unprecedented attack on our system of government,"> > >> he said.> > >> >> > >> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches> > >> > constitutional law at the New England School of> > >> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed> > >> > that it has little chance of success. He said he> > >> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop> > >> > implementation of the health care bill.> > >> >> > >> > Some states are also looking at other ways to> > >> > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and> > >> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking> > >> > the bill's insurance requirement from taking> > >> > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in> > >> > Florida is trying to put a constitutional> > >> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt> > >> > the state from the federal law's requirements. At> > >> > least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.> > >> >> > >> > Under the bill, starting in six months, health> > >> > insurance companies would be required to keep> > >> > young adults as beneficiaries on their parents'> > >> > plans until they turn 26, and companies would no> > >> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.> > >> >> > >> > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.> > >> >> > >> > That's when most Americans will for the first> > >> > time be required to carry health insurance ­> > >> > either through an employer or government program> > >> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax> > >> penalties.>> > >> > "This is the first time in American history where> > >> > American citizens will be forced to buy a> > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > >> > the lawsuit.> > >> >> > >> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will> > >> > start flowing to middle-class working families> > >> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid> > >> > will be expanded to cover more low-income people.> > >> >> > >> > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for the bill.> > >> >> > >> > ___> > >> >> > >> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia,> > >> > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this report.> > >> >> > >> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> > >> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington > State, USA> > >> > Vaccines -> > >> > http://vaccinationd angers.wordpress .com/> > >> > Homeopathy http://homeopathycu res.wordpress. com> > >> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > > >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes> > >> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1> > >> >> > >>> > >> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > >

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I don't think a lot of people have read it, in fact I highly doubt it. I did take some time over the last several months and read parts of it, but not all.There is some very disturbing language in the bill, wording that leaves what "they" can do "wide open" if you know what I mean--in my heart and in my head, this bill paves the way for government to take over many aspects of our lives---what we eat, what treatments we can use for illness, what meds we have to take, etc....LoriFrom: "wharrison@..." <wharrison@...>Vaccinations Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 9:18:31 AMSubject: Re: 13 attorneys general sue over health care overhaul

I'm wondering if all those who voted on it actually understand it. My biggest concern is that it's not about health care. It's about health insurance. If only we could get away from the stranglehold insurance and pharmaceutical companies have on true health care...

There's a link in this article to the actual bill: (http://www.cnn. com/SPECIALS/ health.care/ ?hpt=T1). I'm going to go read it now.

Winnie 13 attorneys general sue over health> > >> care overhaul> > >> Recipient list suppressed: ;> > >>> > >> > ""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > >

lawsuit says."> > >> >> > >> > ""This is the first time in American history> > >> > where American citizens will be forced to buy a> > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > >> > the lawsuit."> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > http://news. / s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ us/us_health_ > overhaul_ lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over health care > overhaul> >> >> > >> > March 23, 2010> > >> >> > >> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13> > >> > states sued the federal government

Tuesday,> > >> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul is> > >> > unconstitutional just seven minutes after> > >> > President Barack Obama signed it into law.> > >> >> > >> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the> > >> > Democratic president signed the bill the House passed > > Sunday night.> > >> >> > >> > "The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > lawsuit says.> > >> >> > >> > Legal experts say it has little chance of> > >> > succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal laws

trump> > >> > state laws.> > >> >> > >> > Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking> > >> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general from> > >> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah,> > >> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,> > >> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are> > >> > Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana, > who is> > >> a> > >> > Democrat.> > >> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­> > >> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others> > >> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the> > >> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian> > >> > legal advocacy group, sued on

behalf of itself> > >> > and four people it says don't have private health> > >> > insurance and object to being told they have to purchase it.> > >> >> > >> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed> > >> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking> > >> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says> > >> > the federal government cannot constitutionally> > >> > require people to get health coverage and argues> > >> > the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial > burden" to> > >> > the states.> > >> >> > >> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th> > >> > Amendment, which says the federal government has> > >> > no authority beyond the powers granted

to it> > >> > under the Constitution, by forcing the states to> > >> > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for the > costs.> >> >> > >> > It also says the states can't afford the new law.> > >> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the> > >> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to> > >> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an> > >> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 billion a year> > >> by 2019.> > >> >> > >> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster,> > >> > who is also running for governor in his state,> > >> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his state's> > >> > sovereignty.> > >> > "A legal

challenge by the states appears to be> > >> > the only hope of protecting the American people> > >> > from this unprecedented attack on our system of government,"> > >> he said.> > >> >> > >> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches> > >> > constitutional law at the New England School of> > >> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed> > >> > that it has little chance of success. He said he> > >> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop> > >> > implementation of the health care bill.> > >> >> > >> > Some states are also looking at other ways to> > >> > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and> > >> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking> >

>> > the bill's insurance requirement from taking> > >> > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in> > >> > Florida is trying to put a constitutional> > >> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt> > >> > the state from the federal law's requirements. At> > >> > least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.> > >> >> > >> > Under the bill, starting in six months, health> > >> > insurance companies would be required to keep> > >> > young adults as beneficiaries on their parents'> > >> > plans until they turn 26, and companies would no> > >> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.> > >> >> > >> > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.> > >> >>

> >> > That's when most Americans will for the first> > >> > time be required to carry health insurance ­> > >> > either through an employer or government program> > >> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax> > >> penalties.>> > >> > "This is the first time in American history where> > >> > American citizens will be forced to buy a> > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > >> > the lawsuit.> > >> >> > >> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will> > >> > start flowing to middle-class working families> > >> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid> > >> > will be

expanded to cover more low-income people.> > >> >> > >> > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for the bill.> > >> >> > >> > ___> > >> >> > >> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia,> > >> > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this report.> > >> >> > >> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> > >> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington > State, USA> > >> > Vaccines -> > >> > http://vaccinationd angers.wordpress .com/> > >> > Homeopathy http://homeopathycu res.wordpress. com> > >> > Vaccine

Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > > >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes> > >> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1> > >> >> > >>> > >> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > >

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Okay, skimming through the pdf on the bill, I caught the word vaccine on page 60, the rest makes me glaze over. However, from pages 116-148 there is all this talk about students, colleges, Pell Grants and loans. WHAT does this have to do with health care??? 33 pages out of a 153 page health care bill is devoted to college funding??

What is going on here?

Winnie 13 attorneys general sue over health> > > >> care overhaul> > > >> Recipient list suppressed: ;> > > >>> > > >> > ""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > > lawsuit says."> > > >> >> > > >> > ""This is the first time in American history> > > >> > where American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > > >> > the lawsuit."> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > http://news. / s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ > us/us_health_ > > overhaul_ lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over health care > > overhaul> >> >> > > >> > March 23, 2010> > > >> >> > > >> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13> > > >> > states sued the federal government Tuesday,> > > >> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul is> > > >> > unconstitutional just seven minutes after> > > >> > President Barack Obama signed it into law.> > > >> >> > > >> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the> > > >> > Democratic president signed the bill the House passed > > > Sunday night.> > > >> >> > > >> > "The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > > lawsuit says.> > > >> >> > > >> > Legal experts say it has little chance of> > > >> > succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal > laws trump> > > >> > state laws.> > > >> >> > > >> > Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking> > > >> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general from> > > >> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah,> > > >> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,> > > >> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are> > > >> > Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana, > > who is> > > >> a> > > >> > Democrat.> > > >> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­> > > >> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others> > > >> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the> > > >> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian> > > >> > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself> > > >> > and four people it says don't have private health> > > >> > insurance and object to being told they have to > purchase it.> > > >> >> > > >> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed> > > >> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking> > > >> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says> > > >> > the federal government cannot constitutionally> > > >> > require people to get health coverage and argues> > > >> > the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial > > burden" to> > > >> > the states.> > > >> >> > > >> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th> > > >> > Amendment, which says the federal government has> > > >> > no authority beyond the powers granted to it> > > >> > under the Constitution, by forcing the states to> > > >> > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for > the > > costs.> >> >> > > >> > It also says the states can't afford the new law.> > > >> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the> > > >> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to> > > >> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an> > > >> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 billion > a year> > > >> by 2019.> > > >> >> > > >> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster,> > > >> > who is also running for governor in his state,> > > >> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his state's> > > >> > sovereignty.> > > >> > "A legal challenge by the states appears to be> > > >> > the only hope of protecting the American people> > > >> > from this unprecedented attack on our system of government,"> > > >> he said.> > > >> >> > > >> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches> > > >> > constitutional law at the New England School of> > > >> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed> > > >> > that it has little chance of success. He said he> > > >> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop> > > >> > implementation of the health care bill.> > > >> >> > > >> > Some states are also looking at other ways to> > > >> > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and> > > >> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking> > > >> > the bill's insurance requirement from taking> > > >> > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in> > > >> > Florida is trying to put a constitutional> > > >> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt> > > >> > the state from the federal law's requirements. At> > > >> > least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.> > > >> >> > > >> > Under the bill, starting in six months, health> > > >> > insurance companies would be required to keep> > > >> > young adults as beneficiaries on their parents'> > > >> > plans until they turn 26, and companies would no> > > >> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.> > > >> >> > > >> > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.> > > >> >> > > >> > That's when most Americans will for the first> > > >> > time be required to carry health insurance ­> > > >> > either through an employer or government program> > > >> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax> > > >> penalties.>> > > >> > "This is the first time in American history where> > > >> > American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > > >> > the lawsuit.> > > >> >> > > >> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will> > > >> > start flowing to middle-class working families> > > >> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid> > > >> > will be expanded to cover more low-income people.> > > >> >> > > >> > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for > the bill.> > > >> >> > > >> > ___> > > >> >> > > >> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia,> > > >> > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this > report.> > >> >> > > >> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> > > >> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington > > State, USA> > > >> > Vaccines -> > > >> > http://vaccinationd angers.wordpress .com/> > > >> > Homeopathy http://homeopathycu res.wordpress. com> > > >> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > > > >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes> > > >> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > >

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What the talk about students, pell grants, etc has to do with healthcare is that bundled into this bill is the mandate that the government be the sole supplier of student loans (other than the sweetheart deal worked out with a bank in Bismarck who will be the only private bank allowed to do loans). The student on average will pay $1,600 more for their loans than they would have through a private provider. This is part of what is factored into the reduced costs of this program.

13 attorneys general sue over health> > > >> care overhaul> > > >> Recipient list suppressed: ;> > > >>> > > >> > ""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > > lawsuit says."> > > >> >> > > >> > ""This is the first time in American history> > > >> > where American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > > >> > the lawsuit."> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > http://news. / s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ > us/us_health_ > > overhaul_ lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over health care > > overhaul> >> >> > > >> > March 23, 2010> > > >> >> > > >> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13> > > >> > states sued the federal government Tuesday,> > > >> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul is> > > >> > unconstitutional just seven minutes after> > > >> > President Barack Obama signed it into law.> > > >> >> > > >> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the> > > >> > Democratic president signed the bill the House passed > > > Sunday night.> > > >> >> > > >> > "The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > > lawsuit says.> > > >> >> > > >> > Legal experts say it has little chance of> > > >> > succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal > laws trump> > > >> > state laws.> > > >> >> > > >> > Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking> > > >> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general from> > > >> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah,> > > >> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,> > > >> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are> > > >> > Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana, > > who is> > > >> a> > > >> > Democrat.> > > >> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­> > > >> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others> > > >> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the> > > >> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian> > > >> > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself> > > >> > and four people it says don't have private health> > > >> > insurance and object to being told they have to > purchase it.> > > >> >> > > >> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed> > > >> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking> > > >> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says> > > >> > the federal government cannot constitutionally> > > >> > require people to get health coverage and argues> > > >> > the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial > > burden" to> > > >> > the states.> > > >> >> > > >> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th> > > >> > Amendment, which says the federal government has> > > >> > no authority beyond the powers granted to it> > > >> > under the Constitution, by forcing the states to> > > >> > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for > the > > costs.> >> >> > > >> > It also says the states can't afford the new law.> > > >> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the> > > >> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to> > > >> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an> > > >> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 billion > a year> > > >> by 2019.> > > >> >> > > >> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster,> > > >> > who is also running for governor in his state,> > > >> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his state's> > > >> > sovereignty.> > > >> > "A legal challenge by the states appears to be> > > >> > the only hope of protecting the American people> > > >> > from this unprecedented attack on our system of government,"> > > >> he said.> > > >> >> > > >> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches> > > >> > constitutional law at the New England School of> > > >> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed> > > >> > that it has little chance of success. He said he> > > >> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop> > > >> > implementation of the health care bill.> > > >> >> > > >> > Some states are also looking at other ways to> > > >> > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and> > > >> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking> > > >> > the bill's insurance requirement from taking> > > >> > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in> > > >> > Florida is trying to put a constitutional> > > >> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt> > > >> > the state from the federal law's requirements. At> > > >> > least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.> > > >> >> > > >> > Under the bill, starting in six months, health> > > >> > insurance companies would be required to keep> > > >> > young adults as beneficiaries on their parents'> > > >> > plans until they turn 26, and companies would no> > > >> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.> > > >> >> > > >> > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.> > > >> >> > > >> > That's when most Americans will for the first> > > >> > time be required to carry health insurance ­> > > >> > either through an employer or government program> > > >> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax> > > >> penalties.>> > > >> > "This is the first time in American history where> > > >> > American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > > >> > the lawsuit.> > > >> >> > > >> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will> > > >> > start flowing to middle-class working families> > > >> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid> > > >> > will be expanded to cover more low-income people.> > > >> >> > > >> > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for > the bill.> > > >> >> > > >> > ___> > > >> >> > > >> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia,> > > >> > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this > report.> > >> >> > > >> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> > > >> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington > > State, USA> > > >> > Vaccines -> > > >> > http://vaccinationd angers.wordpress .com/> > > >> > Homeopathy http://homeopathycu res.wordpress. com> > > >> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > > > >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes> > > >> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > >

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I think they are trying to take over a lot of stuff...student loans have NOTHING to do w/ health care...this is something that Washington likes to do over and over and over again..they sneak in stuff like this, hoping it gets ignored and usually it works..all kinds of stuff has been snuck in like this over the years.With the vaccines, there will be "funds" for more vaccine education/promotion, even home visits to "educate" parents on their safety and efficacy..."providing on-site immunization". Government has always sided w/ Pharma and mainstream medicine..so I can see where this bill is going to result in a BIG push for more immunizations and eventually the removal of our right to refuse.My only hope is that w/ these next

elections, things will change....the people who voted this in, will get voted out and changes will be made.LoriFrom: "wharrison@..." <wharrison@...>Vaccinations Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 9:35:35 AMSubject: Re: 13 attorneys general sue over health care overhaul

Okay, skimming through the pdf on the bill, I caught the word vaccine on page 60, the rest makes me glaze over. However, from pages 116-148 there is all this talk about students, colleges, Pell Grants and loans. WHAT does this have to do with health care??? 33 pages out of a 153 page health care bill is devoted to college funding??

What is going on here?

Winnie 13 attorneys general sue over health> > > >> care overhaul> > > >> Recipient list suppressed: ;> > > >>> > > >> > ""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > > lawsuit says."> > > >> >> > > >> > ""This is the first time in American history> > > >> > where American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > >> > Attorney General

Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > > >> > the lawsuit."> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > http://news. / s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ > us/us_health_ > > overhaul_ lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over health care > > overhaul> >> >> > > >> > March 23, 2010> > > >> >> > > >> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13> > > >> > states sued the federal government Tuesday,> > > >> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul is> > > >> > unconstitutional just seven minutes after> > > >> > President Barack Obama signed it into

law.> > > >> >> > > >> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the> > > >> > Democratic president signed the bill the House passed > > > Sunday night.> > > >> >> > > >> > "The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > > lawsuit says.> > > >> >> > > >> > Legal experts say it has little chance of> > > >> > succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal > laws trump> > > >> > state laws.> > > >> >> > > >> > Florida Attorney General Bill

McCollum is taking> > > >> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general from> > > >> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah,> > > >> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,> > > >> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are> > > >> > Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana, > > who is> > > >> a> > > >> > Democrat.> > > >> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­> > > >> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others> > > >> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the> > > >> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian> > > >> > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself> > > >> > and four people it

says don't have private health> > > >> > insurance and object to being told they have to > purchase it.> > > >> >> > > >> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed> > > >> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking> > > >> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says> > > >> > the federal government cannot constitutionally> > > >> > require people to get health coverage and argues> > > >> > the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial > > burden" to> > > >> > the states.> > > >> >> > > >> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th> > > >> > Amendment, which says the federal government has> > > >> > no authority beyond the

powers granted to it> > > >> > under the Constitution, by forcing the states to> > > >> > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for > the > > costs.> >> >> > > >> > It also says the states can't afford the new law.> > > >> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the> > > >> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to> > > >> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an> > > >> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 billion > a year> > > >> by 2019.> > > >> >> > > >> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster,> > > >> > who is also running for governor in his state,> > > >> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to

protect his state's> > > >> > sovereignty.> > > >> > "A legal challenge by the states appears to be> > > >> > the only hope of protecting the American people> > > >> > from this unprecedented attack on our system of government,"> > > >> he said.> > > >> >> > > >> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches> > > >> > constitutional law at the New England School of> > > >> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed> > > >> > that it has little chance of success. He said he> > > >> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop> > > >> > implementation of the health care bill.> > > >> >> > > >> > Some states are also looking at other ways

to> > > >> > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and> > > >> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking> > > >> > the bill's insurance requirement from taking> > > >> > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in> > > >> > Florida is trying to put a constitutional> > > >> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt> > > >> > the state from the federal law's requirements. At> > > >> > least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.> > > >> >> > > >> > Under the bill, starting in six months, health> > > >> > insurance companies would be required to keep> > > >> > young adults as beneficiaries on their parents'> > > >> > plans until they turn 26,

and companies would no> > > >> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.> > > >> >> > > >> > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.> > > >> >> > > >> > That's when most Americans will for the first> > > >> > time be required to carry health insurance ­> > > >> > either through an employer or government program> > > >> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax> > > >> penalties.>> > > >> > "This is the first time in American history where> > > >> > American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > >

>> > the lawsuit.> > > >> >> > > >> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will> > > >> > start flowing to middle-class working families> > > >> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid> > > >> > will be expanded to cover more low-income people.> > > >> >> > > >> > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for > the bill.> > > >> >> > > >> > ___> > > >> >> > > >> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia,> > > >> > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this > report.> > >> >> > > >> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> > > >> > Vaccination Information &

Choice Network, Washington > > State, USA> > > >> > Vaccines -> > > >> > http://vaccinationd angers.wordpress .com/> > > >> > Homeopathy http://homeopathycu res.wordpress. com> > > >> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > > > >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes> > > >> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > >

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Winnie 13 attorneys general sue over > health > > > >> care overhaul> > > > >> Recipient list suppressed: ;> > > > >>> > > > >> > ""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," > the > > > > lawsuit says."> > > > >> >> > > > >> > ""This is the first time in American history> > > > >> > where American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his > state joined> > > > >> > the lawsuit."> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > http://news. / s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ > > us/us_health_ > > > overhaul_ lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over health > care > > > overhaul> >> >> > > > >> > March 23, 2010> > > > >> >> > > > >> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13> > > > >> > states sued the federal government Tuesday,> > > > >> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul is> > > > >> > unconstitutional just seven minutes after> > > > >> > President Barack Obama signed it into law.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the> > > > >> > Democratic president signed the bill the House > passed > > > > Sunday night.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > "The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," > the > > > > lawsuit says.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Legal experts say it has little chance of> > > > >> > succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal > > laws trump> > > > >> > state laws.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking> > > > >> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general from> > > > >> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah,> > > > >> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,> > > > >> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are> > > > >> > Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of > Louisiana, > > > who is> > > > >> a> > > > >> > Democrat.> > > > >> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­> > > > >> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others> > > > >> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the> > > > >> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian> > > > >> > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself> > > > >> > and four people it says don't have private health> > > > >> > insurance and object to being told they have to > > purchase it.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed> > > > >> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking> > > > >> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says> > > > >> > the federal government cannot constitutionally> > > > >> > require people to get health coverage and argues> > > > >> > the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial > > > burden" to> > > > >> > the states.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th> > > > >> > Amendment, which says the federal government has> > > > >> > no authority beyond the powers granted to it> > > > >> > under the Constitution, by forcing the states to> > > > >> > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them > for > > the > > > costs.> >> >> > > > >> > It also says the states can't afford the new law.> > > > >> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the> > > > >> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to> > > > >> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an> > > > >> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 > billion > > a year> > > > >> by 2019.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster,> > > > >> > who is also running for governor in his state,> > > > >> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect > his state's> > > > >> > sovereignty.> > > > >> > "A legal challenge by the states appears to be> > > > >> > the only hope of protecting the American people> > > > >> > from this unprecedented attack on our system of > government," > > > >> he said.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches> > > > >> > constitutional law at the New England School of> > > > >> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed> > > > >> > that it has little chance of success. He said he> > > > >> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop> > > > >> > implementation of the health care bill.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Some states are also looking at other ways to> > > > >> > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and> > > > >> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking> > > > >> > the bill's insurance requirement from taking> > > > >> > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in> > > > >> > Florida is trying to put a constitutional> > > > >> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt> > > > >> > the state from the federal law's requirements. At> > > > >> > least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Under the bill, starting in six months, health> > > > >> > insurance companies would be required to keep> > > > >> > young adults as beneficiaries on their parents'> > > > >> > plans until they turn 26, and companies would no> > > > >> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > That's when most Americans will for the first> > > > >> > time be required to carry health insurance ­> > > > >> > either through an employer or government program> > > > >> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will > face tax> > > > >> penalties.>> > > > >> > "This is the first time in American history where> > > > >> > American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his > state joined> > > > >> > the lawsuit.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will> > > > >> > start flowing to middle-class working families> > > > >> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid> > > > >> > will be expanded to cover more low-income people.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted > for > > the bill.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > ___> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia,> > > > >> > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to > this > > report.> > >> >> > > > >> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> > > > >> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, > Washington > > > State, USA> > > > >> > Vaccines -> > > > >> > http://vaccinationd angers.wordpress .com/> > > > >> > Homeopathy http://homeopathycu res.wordpress. com> > > > >> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > > > > >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes> > > > >> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > > >

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It's only the beginning. As now we question why the formers of this bill have specifically exempted themselves from compliance in this bill. They do not have to carry insurance nor pay the fines.

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They added a bunch of stuff into this that did not really have to do with healthcare to placate people and get their votes. (Isn't that the way it always happens in politics?)

Apparently there is another process in which they are going to ammend it and there is a 30 day period that they can do this more easily. So it is going to start being ammended today.

I don't understand all the legalese about it, but this is what I heard on the radio. So whatever it does say and whatever is in it, is still subject to a lot of dickering and change and my understanding is that the politicians are going to start gnawing away at it as we type. I don't know if they will gnaw off good parts or bad parts, since they are politicians. But that's the process as I understand it. Anne

13 attorneys general sue over health> > > >> care overhaul> > > >> Recipient list suppressed: ;> > > >>> > > >> > ""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > > lawsuit says."> > > >> >> > > >> > ""This is the first time in American history> > > >> > where American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > > >> > the lawsuit."> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > http://news. / s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ > us/us_health_ > > overhaul_ lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over health care > > overhaul> >> >> > > >> > March 23, 2010> > > >> >> > > >> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13> > > >> > states sued the federal government Tuesday,> > > >> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul is> > > >> > unconstitutional just seven minutes after> > > >> > President Barack Obama signed it into law.> > > >> >> > > >> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the> > > >> > Democratic president signed the bill the House passed > > > Sunday night.> > > >> >> > > >> > "The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > > lawsuit says.> > > >> >> > > >> > Legal experts say it has little chance of> > > >> > succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal > laws trump> > > >> > state laws.> > > >> >> > > >> > Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking> > > >> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general from> > > >> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah,> > > >> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,> > > >> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are> > > >> > Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana, > > who is> > > >> a> > > >> > Democrat.> > > >> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­> > > >> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others> > > >> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the> > > >> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian> > > >> > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself> > > >> > and four people it says don't have private health> > > >> > insurance and object to being told they have to > purchase it.> > > >> >> > > >> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed> > > >> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking> > > >> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says> > > >> > the federal government cannot constitutionally> > > >> > require people to get health coverage and argues> > > >> > the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial > > burden" to> > > >> > the states.> > > >> >> > > >> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th> > > >> > Amendment, which says the federal government has> > > >> > no authority beyond the powers granted to it> > > >> > under the Constitution, by forcing the states to> > > >> > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for > the > > costs.> >> >> > > >> > It also says the states can't afford the new law.> > > >> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the> > > >> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to> > > >> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an> > > >> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 billion > a year> > > >> by 2019.> > > >> >> > > >> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster,> > > >> > who is also running for governor in his state,> > > >> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his state's> > > >> > sovereignty.> > > >> > "A legal challenge by the states appears to be> > > >> > the only hope of protecting the American people> > > >> > from this unprecedented attack on our system of government,"> > > >> he said.> > > >> >> > > >> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches> > > >> > constitutional law at the New England School of> > > >> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed> > > >> > that it has little chance of success. He said he> > > >> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop> > > >> > implementation of the health care bill.> > > >> >> > > >> > Some states are also looking at other ways to> > > >> > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and> > > >> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking> > > >> > the bill's insurance requirement from taking> > > >> > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in> > > >> > Florida is trying to put a constitutional> > > >> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt> > > >> > the state from the federal law's requirements. At> > > >> > least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.> > > >> >> > > >> > Under the bill, starting in six months, health> > > >> > insurance companies would be required to keep> > > >> > young adults as beneficiaries on their parents'> > > >> > plans until they turn 26, and companies would no> > > >> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.> > > >> >> > > >> > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.> > > >> >> > > >> > That's when most Americans will for the first> > > >> > time be required to carry health insurance ­> > > >> > either through an employer or government program> > > >> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax> > > >> penalties.>> > > >> > "This is the first time in American history where> > > >> > American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > > >> > the lawsuit.> > > >> >> > > >> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will> > > >> > start flowing to middle-class working families> > > >> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid> > > >> > will be expanded to cover more low-income people.> > > >> >> > > >> > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for > the bill.> > > >> >> > > >> > ___> > > >> >> > > >> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia,> > > >> > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this > report.> > >> >> > > >> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> > > >> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington > > State, USA> > > >> > Vaccines -> > > >> > http://vaccinationd angers.wordpress .com/> > > >> > Homeopathy http://homeopathycu res.wordpress. com> > > >> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > > > >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes> > > >> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > >

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I just skimmed through the .pdf. I think I'll wait until all the "fine tuning" is done. I'll tackle understanding it then. Until then, I'm just gonna hope for the best and hope the trash talking between the politicians stops, and they get down to making this bill acceptable for everyone...myboycal@...

Tupaj> > > ...although I suppose the difference is you don't have to > buy > > it if you> > > don't have a car.> > >> > > Winnie> > >> > > 13 attorneys general sue over health> > >> care overhaul> > >> Recipient list suppressed: ;> > >>> > >> > ""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > >

lawsuit says."> > >> >> > >> > ""This is the first time in American history> > >> > where American citizens will be forced to buy a> > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > >> > the lawsuit."> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > http://news. / s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ us/us_health_ > overhaul_ lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over health care > overhaul> >> >> > >> > March 23, 2010> > >> >> > >> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13> > >> > states sued the federal government Tuesday,> > >> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul is> > >>

> unconstitutional just seven minutes after> > >> > President Barack Obama signed it into law.> > >> >> > >> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the> > >> > Democratic president signed the bill the House passed > > Sunday night.> > >> >> > >> > "The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > lawsuit says.> > >> >> > >> > Legal experts say it has little chance of> > >> > succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal laws trump> > >> > state laws.> > >> >> > >> > Florida

Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking> > >> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general from> > >> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah,> > >> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,> > >> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are> > >> > Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana, > who is> > >> a> > >> > Democrat.> > >> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­> > >> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others> > >> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the> > >> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian> > >> > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself> > >> > and four people it says don't have private health> >

>> > insurance and object to being told they have to purchase it.> > >> >> > >> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed> > >> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking> > >> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says> > >> > the federal government cannot constitutionally> > >> > require people to get health coverage and argues> > >> > the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial > burden" to> > >> > the states.> > >> >> > >> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th> > >> > Amendment, which says the federal government has> > >> > no authority beyond the powers granted to it> > >> > under the Constitution, by forcing the states to> > >> >

carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for the > costs.> >> >> > >> > It also says the states can't afford the new law.> > >> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the> > >> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to> > >> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an> > >> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 billion a year> > >> by 2019.> > >> >> > >> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster,> > >> > who is also running for governor in his state,> > >> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his state's> > >> > sovereignty.> > >> > "A legal challenge by the states appears to be> > >> > the only hope of protecting the American

people> > >> > from this unprecedented attack on our system of government,"> > >> he said.> > >> >> > >> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches> > >> > constitutional law at the New England School of> > >> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed> > >> > that it has little chance of success. He said he> > >> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop> > >> > implementation of the health care bill.> > >> >> > >> > Some states are also looking at other ways to> > >> > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and> > >> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking> > >> > the bill's insurance requirement from taking> > >> > effect, and the

Republican-led Legislature in> > >> > Florida is trying to put a constitutional> > >> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt> > >> > the state from the federal law's requirements. At> > >> > least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.> > >> >> > >> > Under the bill, starting in six months, health> > >> > insurance companies would be required to keep> > >> > young adults as beneficiaries on their parents'> > >> > plans until they turn 26, and companies would no> > >> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.> > >> >> > >> > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.> > >> >> > >> > That's when most Americans will for the first> > >> > time be

required to carry health insurance ­> > >> > either through an employer or government program> > >> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax> > >> penalties.>> > >> > "This is the first time in American history where> > >> > American citizens will be forced to buy a> > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > >> > the lawsuit.> > >> >> > >> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will> > >> > start flowing to middle-class working families> > >> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid> > >> > will be expanded to cover more low-income people.> > >> >> > >> > No

Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for the bill.> > >> >> > >> > ___> > >> >> > >> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia,> > >> > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this report.> > >> >> > >> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> > >> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington > State, USA> > >> > Vaccines -> > >> > http://vaccinationd angers.wordpress .com/> > >> > Homeopathy http://homeopathycu res.wordpress. com> > >> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > > >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes> > >> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1> > >> >> >

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you think they actually care if they understand it.

It was about backroom deals and you wash my back and I'll wash yours and

how can we please the lobbyists who will give us jobs when the people

boot us out..........just a few reasons

Sheri

At 07:18 AM 3/24/2010, you wrote:

I'm wondering if all those who

voted on it actually understand it. My biggest concern is that it's not

about health care. It's about health insurance. If only we could get away

from the stranglehold insurance and pharmaceutical companies have on true

health care...

There's a link in this article to the actual bill:

(

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/health.care/?hpt=T1). I'm going to go

read it now.

Winnie

13 attorneys general sue over

health

> > >> care overhaul

> > >> Recipient list suppressed: ;

> > >>

> > >> > " " The Constitution nowhere authorizes

the United

> > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under

> > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and

legal

> > >> > residents have qualifying health care

coverage, " the

> > lawsuit says. "

> > >> >

> > >> > " " This is the first time in American

history

> > >> > where American citizens will be forced to buy

a

> > >> > particular good or service, " said

Nebraska

> > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his

state joined

> > >> > the lawsuit. "

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > http://news.

/ s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ us/us_health_

> overhaul_ lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over health

care

> overhaul> >> >

> > >> > March 23, 2010

> > >> >

> > >> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13

> > >> > states sued the federal government Tuesday,

> > >> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul

is

> > >> > unconstitutional just seven minutes after

> > >> > President Barack Obama signed it into law.

> > >> >

> > >> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the

> > >> > Democratic president signed the bill the House

passed

> > Sunday night.

> > >> >

> > >> > " The Constitution nowhere authorizes the

United

> > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under

> > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and

legal

> > >> > residents have qualifying health care

coverage, " the

> > lawsuit says.

> > >> >

> > >> > Legal experts say it has little chance of

> > >> > succeeding because, under the Constitution,

federal laws trump

> > >> > state laws.

> > >> >

> > >> > Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is

taking

> > >> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general

from

> > >> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan,

Utah,

> > >> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,

> > >> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are

> > >> > Republicans except " Buddy "

Caldwell of Louisiana,

> who is

> > >> a

> > >> > Democrat.

> > >> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits

­

> > >> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still

others

> > >> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan,

the

> > >> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a

Christian

> > >> > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of

itself

> > >> > and four people it says don't have private

health

> > >> > insurance and object to being told they have to

purchase it.

> > >> >

> > >> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has

pushed

> > >> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks,

asking

> > >> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He

says

> > >> > the federal government cannot

constitutionally

> > >> > require people to get health coverage and

argues

> > >> > the bill will cause " substantial harm and

financial

> burden " to

> > >> > the states.

> > >> >

> > >> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the

10th

> > >> > Amendment, which says the federal government

has

> > >> > no authority beyond the powers granted to it

> > >> > under the Constitution, by forcing the states

to

> > >> > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them

for the

> costs.> >> >

> > >> > It also says the states can't afford the new

law.

> > >> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says

the

> > >> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people

to

> > >> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state

an

> > >> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1

billion a year

> > >> by 2019.

> > >> >

> > >> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry

McMaster,

> > >> > who is also running for governor in his

state,

> > >> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect

his state's

> > >> > sovereignty.

> > >> > " A legal challenge by the states appears to

be

> > >> > the only hope of protecting the American

people

> > >> > from this unprecedented attack on our system of

government, "

> > >> he said.

> > >> >

> > >> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who

teaches

> > >> > constitutional law at the New England School

of

> > >> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was

filed

> > >> > that it has little chance of success. He said

he

> > >> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would

stop

> > >> > implementation of the health care bill.

> > >> >

> > >> > Some states are also looking at other ways

to

> > >> > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia

and

> > >> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at

blocking

> > >> > the bill's insurance requirement from taking

> > >> > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature

in

> > >> > Florida is trying to put a constitutional

> > >> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to

exempt

> > >> > the state from the federal law's requirements.

At

> > >> > least 60 percent of voters would have to

approve.

> > >> >

> > >> > Under the bill, starting in six months,

health

> > >> > insurance companies would be required to

keep

> > >> > young adults as beneficiaries on their

parents'

> > >> > plans until they turn 26, and companies would

no

> > >> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick

children.

> > >> >

> > >> > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.

> > >> >

> > >> > That's when most Americans will for the

first

> > >> > time be required to carry health insurance ­

> > >> > either through an employer or government

program

> > >> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will

face tax

> > >> penalties.>

> > >> > " This is the first time in American history

where

> > >> > American citizens will be forced to buy a

> > >> > particular good or service, " said

Nebraska

> > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his

state joined

> > >> > the lawsuit.

> > >> >

> > >> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also

will

> > >> > start flowing to middle-class working

families

> > >> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and

Medicaid

> > >> > will be expanded to cover more low-income

people.

> > >> >

> > >> > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted

for the bill.

> > >> >

> > >> > ___

> > >> >

> > >> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in

Columbia,

> > >> > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed

to this report.

> > >> >

> > >> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian

Homeopath

> > >> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network,

Washington

> State, USA

> > >> > Vaccines -

> > >> >

http://vaccinationd

angers.wordpress .com/

> > >> > Homeopathy

http://homeopathycu

res.wordpress. com

> > >> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes

&

> > >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next

classes

> > >> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >

> >

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At 07:45 AM 3/24/2010, you wrote:

I think they are trying to take

over a lot of stuff...student loans have NOTHING to do w/ health

care...this is something that Washington likes to do over and over and

over again..they sneak in stuff like this, hoping it gets ignored and

usually it works..all kinds of stuff has been snuck in like this over the

years.

With the vaccines, there will be " funds " for more vaccine

education/promotion, even home visits to " educate " parents on

their safety and efficacy... " providing on-site

immunization " . Government has always sided w/ Pharma and

mainstream medicine..so I can see where this bill is going to result in a

BIG push for more immunizations and eventually the removal of our right

to refuse.

My only hope is that w/ these next elections, things will change....the

people who voted this in, will get voted out and changes will be

made.

No, that will not change anything.

They are all puppets

They make you think the republicans were against and they are on our

side...........

But next time it will be the same thing and reversed.

Everyone needs to know they are ALL the same and all are puppets of

others

Sheri

Lori

From:

" wharrison@... " <wharrison@...>

Vaccinations

Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 9:35:35 AM

Subject: Re: 13 attorneys general sue over health

care overhaul

Okay, skimming through the pdf on the bill, I caught the word vaccine on

page 60, the rest makes me glaze over. However, from pages 116-148

there is all this talk about students, colleges, Pell Grants and loans.

WHAT does this have to do with health care??? 33 pages out of a 153 page

health care bill is devoted to college funding??

What is going on here?

Winnie

13 attorneys general sue

over health

> > > >> care overhaul

> > > >> Recipient list suppressed: ;

> > > >>

> > > >> > " " The Constitution nowhere

authorizes the United

> > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or

under

> > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and

legal

> > > >> > residents have qualifying health care

coverage, " the

> > > lawsuit says. "

> > > >> >

> > > >> > " " This is the first time in

American history

> > > >> > where American citizens will be forced to

buy a

> > > >> > particular good or service, " said

Nebraska

> > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why

his state joined

> > > >> > the lawsuit. "

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >>

> > > http://news.

/ s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_

> us/us_health_

> > overhaul_ lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over

health care

> > overhaul> >> >

> > > >> > March 23, 2010

> > > >> >

> > > >> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from

113

> > > >> > states sued the federal government

Tuesday,

> > > >> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul

is

> > > >> > unconstitutional just seven minutes

after

> > > >> > President Barack Obama signed it into

law.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after

the

> > > >> > Democratic president signed the bill the

House passed

> > > Sunday night.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > " The Constitution nowhere authorizes

the United

> > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or

under

> > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and

legal

> > > >> > residents have qualifying health care

coverage, " the

> > > lawsuit says.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Legal experts say it has little chance

of

> > > >> > succeeding because, under the Constitution,

federal

> laws trump

> > > >> > state laws.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is

taking

> > > >> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general

from

> > > >> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan,

Utah,

> > > >> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota,

Idaho,

> > > >> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All

are

> > > >> > Republicans except " Buddy "

Caldwell of Louisiana,

> > who is

> > > >> a

> > > >> > Democrat.

> > > >> > Some states are considering separate

lawsuits ­

> > > >> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still

others

> > > >> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan,

the

> > > >> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a

Christian

> > > >> > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of

itself

> > > >> > and four people it says don't have private

health

> > > >> > insurance and object to being told they have

to

> purchase it.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has

pushed

> > > >> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks,

asking

> > > >> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He

says

> > > >> > the federal government cannot

constitutionally

> > > >> > require people to get health coverage and

argues

> > > >> > the bill will cause " substantial harm

and financial

> > burden " to

> > > >> > the states.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the

10th

> > > >> > Amendment, which says the federal government

has

> > > >> > no authority beyond the powers granted to

it

> > > >> > under the Constitution, by forcing the

states to

> > > >> > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing

them for

> the

> > costs.> >> >

> > > >> > It also says the states can't afford the new

law.

> > > >> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit

says the

> > > >> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people

to

> > > >> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the

state an

> > > >> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to

$1 billion

> a year

> > > >> by 2019.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry

McMaster,

> > > >> > who is also running for governor in his

state,

> > > >> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to

protect his state's

> > > >> > sovereignty.

> > > >> > " A legal challenge by the states

appears to be

> > > >> > the only hope of protecting the American

people

> > > >> > from this unprecedented attack on our system

of government, "

> > > >> he said.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who

teaches

> > > >> > constitutional law at the New England School

of

> > > >> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was

filed

> > > >> > that it has little chance of success. He

said he

> > > >> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would

stop

> > > >> > implementation of the health care bill.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Some states are also looking at other ways

to

> > > >> > avoid participating in the overhaul.

Virginia and

> > > >> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at

blocking

> > > >> > the bill's insurance requirement from

taking

> > > >> > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature

in

> > > >> > Florida is trying to put a

constitutional

> > > >> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to

exempt

> > > >> > the state from the federal law's

requirements. At

> > > >> > least 60 percent of voters would have to

approve.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Under the bill, starting in six months,

health

> > > >> > insurance companies would be required to

keep

> > > >> > young adults as beneficiaries on their

parents'

> > > >> > plans until they turn 26, and companies

would no

> > > >> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick

children.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Other changes would not kick in until

2014.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > That's when most Americans will for the

first

> > > >> > time be required to carry health insurance

­

> > > >> > either through an employer or government

program

> > > >> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse

will face tax

> > > >> penalties.>

> > > >> > " This is the first time in American

history where

> > > >> > American citizens will be forced to buy

a

> > > >> > particular good or service, " said

Nebraska

> > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why

his state joined

> > > >> > the lawsuit.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also

will

> > > >> > start flowing to middle-class working

families

> > > >> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and

Medicaid

> > > >> > will be expanded to cover more low-income

people.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate

voted for

> the bill.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > ___

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in

Columbia,

> > > >> > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb.,

contributed to this

> report.> > >> >

> > > >> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian

Homeopath

> > > >> > Vaccination Information & Choice

Network, Washington

> > State, USA

> > > >> > Vaccines -

> > > >> >

http://vaccinationd angers.wordpress

..com/

> > > >> > Homeopathy

http://homeopathycu res.wordpress.

com

> > > >> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes

&

> > > >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next

classes

> > > >> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1

> > > >> >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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yes, if it is so great this is what they should also be part of.

But they have their own disease care system

Sheri

At 07:52 AM 3/24/2010, you wrote:

It's only the

beginning. As now we question why the formers of this bill have

specifically exempted themselves from compliance in this bill. They do

not have to carry insurance nor pay the fines.

Re: 13 attorneys general sue over health

care overhaul

Unbelievable.

Winnie

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Right, and I think it's very telling that virtually all of the Democrats voted for it and Republicans against it. I cannot believe that being of a certain party would have that kind of influence on individual opinions. It's all rubber-stamping with the hopes of getting re-elected.

Winnie 13 attorneys general sue over health> > > > >> care overhaul> > > > >> Recipient list suppressed: ;> > > > >>> > > > >> > ""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the> > > > lawsuit says."> > > > >> >> > > > >> > ""This is the first time in American history> > > > >> > where American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his > state joined> > > > >> > the lawsuit."> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > > > http://news. / s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ us/us_health_> > > overhaul_ lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over health care> > > overhaul> >> >> > > > >> > March 23, 2010> > > > >> >> > > > >> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13> > > > >> > states sued the federal government Tuesday,> > > > >> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul is> > > > >> > unconstitutional just seven minutes after> > > > >> > President Barack Obama signed it into law.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the> > > > >> > Democratic president signed the bill the House passed> > > > Sunday night.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > "The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the> > > > lawsuit says.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Legal experts say it has little chance of> > > > >> > succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal > laws trump> > > > >> > state laws.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking> > > > >> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general from> > > > >> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah,> > > > >> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,> > > > >> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are> > > > >> > Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana,> > > who is> > > > >> a> > > > >> > Democrat.> > > > >> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­> > > > >> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others> > > > >> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the> > > > >> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian> > > > >> > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself> > > > >> > and four people it says don't have private health> > > > >> > insurance and object to being told they have to > purchase it.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed> > > > >> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking> > > > >> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says> > > > >> > the federal government cannot constitutionally> > > > >> > require people to get health coverage and argues> > > > >> > the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial> > > burden" to> > > > >> > the states.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th> > > > >> > Amendment, which says the federal government has> > > > >> > no authority beyond the powers granted to it> > > > >> > under the Constitution, by forcing the states to> > > > >> > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for the> > > costs.> >> >> > > > >> > It also says the states can't afford the new law.> > > > >> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the> > > > >> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to> > > > >> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an> > > > >> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 > billion a year> > > > >> by 2019.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster,> > > > >> > who is also running for governor in his state,> > > > >> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his > state's> > > >> > sovereignty.> > > > >> > "A legal challenge by the states appears to be> > > > >> > the only hope of protecting the American people> > > > >> > from this unprecedented attack on our system of > government,"> > > >> he said.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches> > > > >> > constitutional law at the New England School of> > > > >> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed> > > > >> > that it has little chance of success. He said he> > > > >> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop> > > > >> > implementation of the health care bill.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Some states are also looking at other ways to> > > > >> > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and> > > > >> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking> > > > >> > the bill's insurance requirement from taking> > > > >> > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in> > > > >> > Florida is trying to put a constitutional> > > > >> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt> > > > >> > the state from the federal law's requirements. At> > > > >> > least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Under the bill, starting in six months, health> > > > >> > insurance companies would be required to keep> > > > >> > young adults as beneficiaries on their parents'> > > > >> > plans until they turn 26, and companies would no> > > > >> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > That's when most Americans will for the first> > > > >> > time be required to carry health insurance ­> > > > >> > either through an employer or government program> > > > >> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will > face tax> > > > >> penalties.>> > > > >> > "This is the first time in American history where> > > > >> > American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his > state joined> > > > >> > the lawsuit.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will> > > > >> > start flowing to middle-class working families> > > > >> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid> > > > >> > will be expanded to cover more low-income people.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for > the bill.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > ___> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia,> > > > >> > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to > this report.> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> > > > >> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington> > > State, USA> > > > >> > Vaccines -> > > > >> > http://vaccinationd angers.wordpress .com/> > > > >> > Homeopathy http://homeopathycu res.wordpress. com> > > > >> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > > > > >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes> > > > >> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > >> > > >

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Winnie 13 attorneys general sue over health> > > >> care overhaul> > > >> Recipient list suppressed: ;> > > >>> > > >> > ""The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > > lawsuit says."> > > >> >> > > >> > ""This is the first time in American history> > > >> > where American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > > >> > the lawsuit."> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > http://news. / s/ap/20100323/ ap_on_re_ > us/us_health_ > > overhaul_ lawsuit>>> 13 attorneys general sue over health care > > overhaul> >> >> > > >> > March 23, 2010> > > >> >> > > >> > ALLAHASSEE, Fla. – Attorneys general from 13> > > >> > states sued the federal government Tuesday,> > > >> > claiming the landmark health care overhaul is> > > >> > unconstitutional just seven minutes after> > > >> > President Barack Obama signed it into law.> > > >> >> > > >> > The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the> > > >> > Democratic president signed the bill the House passed > > > Sunday night.> > > >> >> > > >> > "The Constitution nowhere authorizes the United> > > >> > States to mandate, either directly or under> > > >> > threat of penalty, that all citizens and legal> > > >> > residents have qualifying health care coverage," the > > > lawsuit says.> > > >> >> > > >> > Legal experts say it has little chance of> > > >> > succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal > laws trump> > > >> > state laws.> > > >> >> > > >> > Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is taking> > > >> > the lead and is joined by attorneys general from> > > >> > South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, Utah,> > > >> > Pennsylvania, Alabama, South Dakota, Idaho,> > > >> > Washington, Colorado and Louisiana. All are> > > >> > Republicans except "Buddy" Caldwell of Louisiana, > > who is> > > >> a> > > >> > Democrat.> > > >> > Some states are considering separate lawsuits ­> > > >> > Virginia filed its own Tuesday ­ and still others> > > >> > may join the multistate suit. In Michigan, the> > > >> > More Law Center of Ann Arbor, a Christian> > > >> > legal advocacy group, sued on behalf of itself> > > >> > and four people it says don't have private health> > > >> > insurance and object to being told they have to > purchase it.> > > >> >> > > >> > McCollum, who is running for governor, has pushed> > > >> > the 13-state lawsuit for several weeks, asking> > > >> > other GOP attorneys general to join him. He says> > > >> > the federal government cannot constitutionally> > > >> > require people to get health coverage and argues> > > >> > the bill will cause "substantial harm and financial > > burden" to> > > >> > the states.> > > >> >> > > >> > The lawsuit claims the bill violates the 10th> > > >> > Amendment, which says the federal government has> > > >> > no authority beyond the powers granted to it> > > >> > under the Constitution, by forcing the states to> > > >> > carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for > the > > costs.> >> >> > > >> > It also says the states can't afford the new law.> > > >> > Using Florida as an example, the lawsuit says the> > > >> > overhaul will add almost 1.3 million people to> > > >> > the state's Medicaid rolls and cost the state an> > > >> > additional $150 million in 2014, growing to $1 billion > a year> > > >> by 2019.> > > >> >> > > >> > South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster,> > > >> > who is also running for governor in his state,> > > >> > said Tuesday the lawsuit was necessary to protect his state's> > > >> > sovereignty.> > > >> > "A legal challenge by the states appears to be> > > >> > the only hope of protecting the American people> > > >> > from this unprecedented attack on our system of government,"> > > >> he said.> > > >> >> > > >> > But Lawrence Friedman, a professor who teaches> > > >> > constitutional law at the New England School of> > > >> > Law in Boston, said before the suit was filed> > > >> > that it has little chance of success. He said he> > > >> > can't imagine a scenario where a judge would stop> > > >> > implementation of the health care bill.> > > >> >> > > >> > Some states are also looking at other ways to> > > >> > avoid participating in the overhaul. Virginia and> > > >> > Idaho have passed legislation aimed at blocking> > > >> > the bill's insurance requirement from taking> > > >> > effect, and the Republican-led Legislature in> > > >> > Florida is trying to put a constitutional> > > >> > amendment on the ballot to ask voters to exempt> > > >> > the state from the federal law's requirements. At> > > >> > least 60 percent of voters would have to approve.> > > >> >> > > >> > Under the bill, starting in six months, health> > > >> > insurance companies would be required to keep> > > >> > young adults as beneficiaries on their parents'> > > >> > plans until they turn 26, and companies would no> > > >> > longer be allowed to deny coverage to sick children.> > > >> >> > > >> > Other changes would not kick in until 2014.> > > >> >> > > >> > That's when most Americans will for the first> > > >> > time be required to carry health insurance ­> > > >> > either through an employer or government program> > > >> > or by buying it themselves. Those who refuse will face tax> > > >> penalties.>> > > >> > "This is the first time in American history where> > > >> > American citizens will be forced to buy a> > > >> > particular good or service," said Nebraska> > > >> > Attorney General Jon Bruning, explaining why his state joined> > > >> > the lawsuit.> > > >> >> > > >> > Tax credits to help pay for premiums also will> > > >> > start flowing to middle-class working families> > > >> > with incomes up to $88,000 a year, and Medicaid> > > >> > will be expanded to cover more low-income people.> > > >> >> > > >> > No Republicans in the U.S. House or Senate voted for > the bill.> > > >> >> > > >> > ___> > > >> >> > > >> > Associated Press Writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia,> > > >> > S.C., and Josh Funk in Omaha, Neb., contributed to this > report.> > >> >> > > >> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> > > >> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington > > State, USA> > > >> > Vaccines -> > > >> > http://vaccinationd angers.wordpress .com/> > > >> > Homeopathy http://homeopathycu res.wordpress. com> > > >> > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > > > >> > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes> > > >> > start March 24, March 31, & April 1> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > >

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