Guest guest Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 Anyone? Advice sought http://prohealthinc.infopop.net/3/OpenTopic?a=tpc & s=112296756 & f=193298756 & m= 1622953442 Author - Pammie Medications??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Does anyone take medicines for RA or Lupus that breaks down your bodies immune system?? I take immuran and was told not to be around people that have had polio vaccine.....flu shots ....other vaccines etc because I could get them easily......my little girl has to have the second part of the hepatitis shot for school and should I avoid being close in contac with her....can I catch it ..and how long do you have to wait after the vaccine til she is no longer a threat to me.....can anyone help me.....what about the flu shot????? Ty for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Re: Advice sought Dear Pammie, If you value your child's health, you will not only refrain from ESPECIALLY the hepatitis vaccine, you will refrain from ANY AND ALL future vaccines. You can't undo what has been done but you certainly can prevent any further damage to your children and yourself. You need to begin a reading program right now and learn the truth about vaccinations. DON'T HAVE ANOTHER CHILD VACCINATED UNTIL YOU FULLY INFORM YOURSELF ON THE SUBJECT. If for some reason you do not comply and allow your children to be vaccinated, load them up with AT LEAST vitamin C and Vitamin A especially for a couple days before and after the vaccines. Here are several facts about vaccines. 1. There is no such thing as a safe vaccine 2. Every vaccine is an insult to the immune system 3. Every vaccination is like playing Russian Roulette 4. Vaccination is the quintessential medical quackery of the 20th century. 5. No one HAS to submit to vaccines for ANY reason at ANY time. Check your state law. 6. Medical authorities and school authorities lie to you on a regular basis about the requirement for vaccines to get into school. Start immediately on a nutritional course - you need to find a doctor that does alternative medicine - send your hometown and I will supply you with someone close to you if possible. You need to begin supplementing yourself with vitamins but especially C and Vitamin A especially but will probably need help to insure you get natural forms. Vitamin C with bioflavanoids and a good source of Cod Liver Oil and some Black Current OR Evening Primrose Oil. You need to immediately find out what trans fats are and how to avoid them. Eliminate all grain and dairy from your diet immediately and begin to eat only meat, fish, fowl, eggs, vegetables and fruit - nothing out of cans or packages. Eat animal protein three times a day. Consider protein as only coming from animal food. Plant protein is NOT good protein, it is inferior protein and cannot be used as easily as animal protein for body repair. Send in your hometown and we'll get back to with PDR info on the drug your taking later. Dr H Duffy Sr having her vaccinated with Advice sought > > > http://prohealthinc.infopop.net/3/OpenTopic?a=tpc & s=112296756 & f=193298756 & m= > 1622953442 > > > Author - Pammie > > > Medications??? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Does anyone take medicines for RA or Lupus that breaks down your bodies > immune system?? I take immuran and was told not to be around people that > have had polio vaccine.....flu shots ....other vaccines etc because I could > get them easily......my little girl has to have the second part of the > hepatitis shot for school and should I avoid being close in contac with > her....can I catch it ..and how long do you have to wait after the vaccine > til she is no longer a threat to me.....can anyone help me.....what about > the flu shot????? Ty for your help > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 In a message dated 10/10/2001 12:48:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sandym@... writes: > The Myth OF Carbohydrate. > Keep in mind that there are essential fats and essential > proteins but there are NO essential carbohydrates. > I totally disagree with you on that one! I was a personal trainer before I became a Mom and I can tell you first hand that a body needs carbohydrates to function properly, without them you become sluggish and tired, especially if you work out. Sara Colin's Ap Mama A baby will only spoil if you leave it on the shelf. Come see us at <A HREF= " http://www.sos.state.mi.us/election/elecadmin/2000web/index.html " > </A>h<A HREF= " http://members.tripod.com/colinsapmama/ " >ttp://members.tripod.com/colinsap\ mama/</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Advice sought http://prohealthinc.infopop.net/3/OpenTopic?a=tpc & s=112296756 & f=193298756 & m= 1622953442 Author - Pammie Medications??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Does anyone take medicines for RA or Lupus that breaks down your bodies immune system?? I take immuran and was told not to be around people that have had polio vaccine.....flu shots ....other vaccines etc because I could get them easily......my little girl has to have the second part of the hepatitis shot for school and should I avoid being close in contac with her....can I catch it ..and how long do you have to wait after the vaccine til she is no longer a threat to me.....can anyone help me.....what about the flu shot????? Ty for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Re: Advice sought Hi Sandy- I just wanted to add my two cents here. As a nutritionist, I am concerned with Dr. Duffy's advice regarding diet. A high protein diet, such as he has advocated here, is very hard on the immune system, making it work overtime to " unload " the toxins. I like to look at it this way: The only " natural " food we have left for analysis is human milk. Human milk is designed for humans during their greatest growth (building/rebuilding) and development period. Human milk is only 1-5% protein during any given period of lactation. Our outragious requirements for 30% (or more as advocated here) comes from the meat and dairy industry's attempt to convince us we need more so they can sell their product. Animal products are loaded not only with WAY TOO MUCH protein but tons of chemicals (antibiotics, hormones, pesticides....). If one feels they really do need extra protein, nuts are equal or higher in protein than meat without the unhealthy fat and chemicals. Eating a variety of fruit and small amounts of many nuts provides the body with dense nurtition without overload. This allows for optimal immune function. Best in Health to All- Aiello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Re: Advice sought I would not advocate PEANUTS that often have fungus on them called aflotoxins. They are also very cancerous. Kathy Re: Advice sought > > > Hi Sandy- > I just wanted to add my two cents here. As a nutritionist, I am concerned > with Dr. Duffy's advice regarding diet. A high protein diet, such as he has > advocated here, is very hard on the immune system, making it work overtime > to " unload " the toxins. I like to look at it this way: > The only " natural " food we have left for analysis is human milk. Human milk > is designed for humans during their greatest growth (building/rebuilding) > and development period. Human milk is only 1-5% protein during any given > period of lactation. Our outragious requirements for 30% (or more as > advocated here) comes from the meat and dairy industry's attempt to convince > us we need more so they can sell their product. Animal products are loaded > not only with WAY TOO MUCH protein but tons of chemicals (antibiotics, > hormones, pesticides....). If one feels they really do need extra protein, > nuts are equal or higher in protein than meat without the unhealthy fat and > chemicals. Eating a variety of fruit and small amounts of many nuts > provides the body with dense nurtition without overload. This allows for > optimal immune function. > Best in Health to All- > Aiello > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Re: Advice sought just keep reading and studying and you will eventually come to that conclusion, I would recommend you read Lutz, The Myth OF Carbohydrate. Keep in mind that there are essential fats and essential proteins but there are NO essential carbohydrates. You don't need them to live. That is as plain and simple a fact that you can find on the subject but I have never heard anyone SAY it exactly like that except myself. DHD Sr Re: Advice sought > > > I would love to know more about your views on animal protein being superior > to plant protein. I have found just the opposite to be true. Harmony > > ----- Original . > Eat animal protein three times a day. Consider protein as only coming > from animal food. Plant protein is NOT good protein, it is inferior protein > and cannot be used as easily as animal protein for body repair. > Dr H Duffy Sr > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Dr. Duffy, I would like to comment on a few of the things you are saying and get your response: 1) If you eat dairy and eggs, it is my understanding that B12 is not a concern. If you are not eating dairy and eggs, you can get B12 in vitamin form. Is that not correct? 2) Although vegetable protein used to be thought to be inferior (a la Frances Lappe and others) and it used to be thought you had to combine essential amino acids during the same meal, I thought it was later found (also Frances Lappe) that if you eat them within 24 hours, they will still recombine. Is that not correct? 3) I have seen you say elsewhere that we are protein and fat, therefore we need only protein and fat. By that argument, there would be no herbivorous animals (unless you think they don't know what they are supposed to eat). I would like to see the supporting documentation for this. 4) Comparing people who have by necessity adapted to a diet of strict protein doesn't mean that it is necessarily optimal. Also, it is my understanding that there are some very high vitamin/mineral plants available to the Eskimos during the non-winter season. Small groups also are known to not provide the optimal environment for the spread of disease, although clearly that wouldn't explain why they don't get infections ( " good " and " bad " bacteria are, of course, a normal part of all environments) if, indeed, you are correct about that. Thanks for providing such food for thought! (pun intended) Sandy Re: Advice sought That is absolutely the dumbest advice anyone could give about a diet. If you are in trouble healthwise, you had better start increasing your animal protein as fast as you can. All the nuts and bolts you need to get you well are contained in animal protein. Vegetable and fruit protein is greatly inferior and no where near as absorbable and usable - those are the wishful thoughts of spaced out vegetarians who are probably extremely low in vitamin B12 and consuming large amounts of WHOLE (grin) grain . A " variety of fruit and small amounts of many nuts " MIGHT make you feel better for awhile but if it does its only because you are no longer eating whatever junk you were on before you started eating the fruit and nuts. Get that point, every diet works, for a while, not because of the diet, but because it takes the patient off whatever junk food they were abusing at the time they went on the diet. Every cell of the body is made of protein and fat, there is are essential proteins and an essential fats to supply those needs but there is NO ESSENTIAL CARBOHDRATE. Everything that grows is carbohydrate and the protein it contains is inferior to animal protein, the body cannot use it as easily as it does animal protein. Animal cells are much like ours, plant cells are not. There is absolutely no physiological need for carbohydrate in the human diet. The advice that protein " overloads " the body in ANY way is an old wive's tale fostered by the stupid advice from orthodox medicine for kidney patients to avoid protein because there was protein in their urine. All that dumb advice has been thoroughly discredited. Eskimos survived the harshest climate in the world for eons on nothing but animal protein, the tribe with the highest IgA level in the world was the found to be the Masai who live on animal meat, blood and milk. All animal protein. They had no history of infection when investigated back in the early part of the last century. And by the way, everything that grows is a carbohydrate everything that moves around or issues forth from things that move around is protein. They both contain fat. To call nuts protein begs knowledge. They grow, therefore they are carbohydrate. Diane sounds like she's a vegetarian or a dietician, but she certainly is not a nutritionist. What you read here is based upon thirty years of clinical experience seeing the worst basket cases in the world. DHD Sr Re: Advice sought > > > Hi Sandy- > I just wanted to add my two cents here. As a nutritionist, I am concerned > with Dr. Duffy's advice regarding diet. A high protein diet, such as he has > advocated here, is very hard on the immune system, making it work overtime > to " unload " the toxins. I like to look at it this way: > The only " natural " food we have left for analysis is human milk. Human milk > is designed for humans during their greatest growth (building/rebuilding) > and development period. Human milk is only 1-5% protein during any given > period of lactation. Our outragious requirements for 30% (or more as > advocated here) comes from the meat and dairy industry's attempt to convince > us we need more so they can sell their product. Animal products are loaded > not only with WAY TOO MUCH protein but tons of chemicals (antibiotics, > hormones, pesticides....). If one feels they really do need extra protein, > nuts are equal or higher in protein than meat without the unhealthy fat and > chemicals. Eating a variety of fruit and small amounts of many nuts > provides the body with dense nurtition without overload. This allows for > optimal immune function. > Best in Health to All- > Aiello > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Re: Advice sought I am sorry. I should have indicated that all nuts should be raw and not legumes (which peanuts are). Thanks Kathy for catching that mistake! Re: Advice sought > > > I would not advocate PEANUTS that often have fungus on them called > aflotoxins. They are also very cancerous. > Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 > The Myth OF Carbohydrate. > Keep in mind that there are essential fats and essential > proteins but there are NO essential carbohydrates. > But what about essential vitamins and minerals? Or fiber? Goldmeer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Well, that is debatable in my opinion. I do much better on protein and fat and only small amts veg and fruit and NO other carbohydrates. Much more energy and no sag - you'll notice the difference as you get older. Also started gaining weight on veggie diet. Everyone is different, certainly, but there are a lot of lies out there about fat and protein. But the key is everyone is different. I agree with Atkins about hyperinsulinemia and the state we get in after so many carbs over so many years. To lose weight you have to get the body to burn fat and can only do that if there are no carbs providing glucose in the bloodstream. Sheri At 04:07 PM 10/10/2001 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 10/10/2001 12:48:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >sandym@... writes: > > >> The Myth OF Carbohydrate. >> Keep in mind that there are essential fats and essential >> proteins but there are NO essential carbohydrates. >> > >I totally disagree with you on that one! I was a personal trainer before I >became a Mom and I can tell you first hand that a body needs carbohydrates to >function properly, without them you become sluggish and tired, especially if >you work out. > >Sara >Colin's Ap Mama >A baby will only spoil if you leave it on the shelf. >Come see us at <A HREF= " http://www.sos.state.mi.us/election/elecadmin/2000web/index.html " > </A>h<A HREF= " http://members.tripod.com/colinsapmama/ " >ttp://members.tripod.com/coli nsapmama/</A> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Sheri, I am finding I need more protein, too, at my age, after around 20 years as a vegetarian. Am eating meat at this time and feeling better, too. I felt great for years, but was finding myself exhausted more recently, and it seems to be helping. I especially like the part about losing weight - will let you know! Sandy Re: FW: Advice sought Well, that is debatable in my opinion. I do much better on protein and fat and only small amts veg and fruit and NO other carbohydrates. Much more energy and no sag - you'll notice the difference as you get older. Also started gaining weight on veggie diet. Everyone is different, certainly, but there are a lot of lies out there about fat and protein. But the key is everyone is different. I agree with Atkins about hyperinsulinemia and the state we get in after so many carbs over so many years. To lose weight you have to get the body to burn fat and can only do that if there are no carbs providing glucose in the bloodstream. Sheri At 04:07 PM 10/10/2001 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 10/10/2001 12:48:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >sandym@... writes: > > >> The Myth OF Carbohydrate. >> Keep in mind that there are essential fats and essential >> proteins but there are NO essential carbohydrates. >> > >I totally disagree with you on that one! I was a personal trainer before I >became a Mom and I can tell you first hand that a body needs carbohydrates to >function properly, without them you become sluggish and tired, especially if >you work out. > >Sara >Colin's Ap Mama >A baby will only spoil if you leave it on the shelf. >Come see us at <A HREF= " http://www.sos.state.mi.us/election/elecadmin/2000web/index.html " > </A>h<A HREF= " http://members.tripod.com/colinsapmama/ " >ttp://members.tripod.com/coli nsapmama/</A> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 RE: FW: Advice sought > The Myth OF Carbohydrate. > Keep in mind that there are essential fats and essential > proteins but there are NO essential carbohydrates. > But what about essential vitamins and minerals? Or fiber? Goldmeer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 But that was my point about high quality plant foods available during the non-winter years. (Not that I missed your point and am not curious about your point that they were getting vitamins from fresh meat.........) Sandy PS Don't bite my head off - I need it! Re: FW: Advice sought They are all available in animal protein. Stefansson cured scurvy with fresh meat. Where did the eskimos get their vitamins etc.? RE: FW: Advice sought > > > > > The Myth OF Carbohydrate. > > Keep in mind that there are essential fats and essential > > proteins but there are NO essential carbohydrates. > > > > But what about essential vitamins and minerals? Or fiber? > > Goldmeer > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 is she saying the peanut or the fungus is cancerous? >From: " Sandy Mintz " <sandym@...> >Reply-Vaccinations ><Vaccinations > >Subject: FW: Advice sought >Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:25:34 -0800 > > > Re: Advice sought > > >I would not advocate PEANUTS that often have fungus on them called >aflotoxins. They are also very cancerous. >Kathy > Re: Advice sought > > > > > > Hi Sandy- > > I just wanted to add my two cents here. As a nutritionist, I am >concerned > > with Dr. Duffy's advice regarding diet. A high protein diet, such as he >has > > advocated here, is very hard on the immune system, making it work >overtime > > to " unload " the toxins. I like to look at it this way: > > The only " natural " food we have left for analysis is human milk. Human >milk > > is designed for humans during their greatest growth >(building/rebuilding) > > and development period. Human milk is only 1-5% protein during any >given > > period of lactation. Our outragious requirements for 30% (or more as > > advocated here) comes from the meat and dairy industry's attempt to >convince > > us we need more so they can sell their product. Animal products are >loaded > > not only with WAY TOO MUCH protein but tons of chemicals (antibiotics, > > hormones, pesticides....). If one feels they really do need extra >protein, > > nuts are equal or higher in protein than meat without the unhealthy fat >and > > chemicals. Eating a variety of fruit and small amounts of many nuts > > provides the body with dense nurtition without overload. This allows >for > > optimal immune function. > > Best in Health to All- > > Aiello > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 It's the fungus. Sandy ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. Re: Advice sought > > >I would not advocate PEANUTS that often have fungus on them called >aflotoxins. They are also very cancerous. >Kathy > Re: Advice sought > > > > > > Hi Sandy- > > I just wanted to add my two cents here. As a nutritionist, I am >concerned > > with Dr. Duffy's advice regarding diet. A high protein diet, such as he >has > > advocated here, is very hard on the immune system, making it work >overtime > > to " unload " the toxins. I like to look at it this way: > > The only " natural " food we have left for analysis is human milk. Human >milk > > is designed for humans during their greatest growth >(building/rebuilding) > > and development period. Human milk is only 1-5% protein during any >given > > period of lactation. Our outragious requirements for 30% (or more as > > advocated here) comes from the meat and dairy industry's attempt to >convince > > us we need more so they can sell their product. Animal products are >loaded > > not only with WAY TOO MUCH protein but tons of chemicals (antibiotics, > > hormones, pesticides....). If one feels they really do need extra >protein, > > nuts are equal or higher in protein than meat without the unhealthy fat >and > > chemicals. Eating a variety of fruit and small amounts of many nuts > > provides the body with dense nurtition without overload. This allows >for > > optimal immune function. > > Best in Health to All- > > Aiello > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I am new to the group and need advice. I am 47 and I have had back problems for 15 + years. I have digenerative disc disease, 2 collapsed discs in my neck, 4 lumber discs with 70 - 90 % deterioration, bilateral forminal stenosis, restricted cervical lordosis, etc. I have developed an allergy to opiods and am very sensitive to all other medications due to 50% reduced liver function. I cannot take pain medication and doctors have stated as much in their findings. I applied for Social Security disability around 9 months ago for the 3rd time. It is now in reconsideration. I have several x-rays and MRI results of my back and x-rays of my neck plus doctors findings from 2 doctors. My orthopedists that did the tests has written a narrative stating what is wrong with me and why he believes I am totally disabled. I should get a decision in early October or so SS says. If it is turned down my lawyer is going to ask the SS judge to look over my evidence (without a hearing) and make a ruling. My lawyer has had some success with this strategy with other SS clients. I have an appointment scheduled for late September with a local mental health group to document the mental problems chronic pain and disability have caused, i.e. stress, depression, etc. My question: Is there anything more that I can do to get disability SS approved? I am out of money. I can go for free to a local clinic to see a GP but cannot afford a specialist. I live in Georgia, I do not have a minor child, I am not married but my boyfriend who is on SSD lives with me, is there any assistance I can get besides food stamps? I know this is rather long, sorry. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank You Group Jane H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I am new to the group and need advice. I am 47 and I have had back problems for 15 + years. I have digenerative disc disease, 2 collapsed discs in my neck, 4 lumber discs with 70 - 90 % deterioration, bilateral forminal stenosis, restricted cervical lordosis, etc. I have developed an allergy to opiods and am very sensitive to all other medications due to 50% reduced liver function. I cannot take pain medication and doctors have stated as much in their findings. I applied for Social Security disability around 9 months ago for the 3rd time. It is now in reconsideration. I have several x-rays and MRI results of my back and x-rays of my neck plus doctors findings from 2 doctors. My orthopedists that did the tests has written a narrative stating what is wrong with me and why he believes I am totally disabled. I should get a decision in early October or so SS says. If it is turned down my lawyer is going to ask the SS judge to look over my evidence (without a hearing) and make a ruling. My lawyer has had some success with this strategy with other SS clients. I have an appointment scheduled for late September with a local mental health group to document the mental problems chronic pain and disability have caused, i.e. stress, depression, etc. My question: Is there anything more that I can do to get disability SS approved? I am out of money. I can go for free to a local clinic to see a GP but cannot afford a specialist. I live in Georgia, I do not have a minor child, I am not married but my boyfriend who is on SSD lives with me, is there any assistance I can get besides food stamps? I know this is rather long, sorry. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank You Group Jane H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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