Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 This is exactly why we tell people who are weaning NOT to skip days!!! You are putting yourself in and out of withdrawal constantly which leads to a failed withdrawal attempt! > When Vicki was prescribed Paxil she was told that if she forgot a dose > and more then a few hours had passed since her normal time she should > wait until the next day. I came to me this morning that these > instructions only served to create a dependence. If I understand and > please correct me if I'm wrong the half life of Paxil is 21 hours (I've > also seen 36) so by the time the normal time comes for the daily dose > you are alreadt on the edge of withdrawl. If you skip the dose as > instructed you are in withdrawl by the time you get your next Paxil and > it would make the withdrawl symptoms diminish creating an adiction. I > am having a really cruddy day so I hope you can understand what I'm > getting at. > > If I am right they have created not only a drug that should have never > been made for sale but have formulated it in a way to hook the patient. > > > Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 This is exactly why we tell people who are weaning NOT to skip days!!! You are putting yourself in and out of withdrawal constantly which leads to a failed withdrawal attempt! > When Vicki was prescribed Paxil she was told that if she forgot a dose > and more then a few hours had passed since her normal time she should > wait until the next day. I came to me this morning that these > instructions only served to create a dependence. If I understand and > please correct me if I'm wrong the half life of Paxil is 21 hours (I've > also seen 36) so by the time the normal time comes for the daily dose > you are alreadt on the edge of withdrawl. If you skip the dose as > instructed you are in withdrawl by the time you get your next Paxil and > it would make the withdrawl symptoms diminish creating an adiction. I > am having a really cruddy day so I hope you can understand what I'm > getting at. > > If I am right they have created not only a drug that should have never > been made for sale but have formulated it in a way to hook the patient. > > > Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 ABSOLUTELY they have designed a drug intended to create dependency. Just look at their own words about " treating " mental illness; never do they speak of " curing. " Just " correcting chemical imbalances " through long-term multiple daily doses of SSRI/SNRIs, more than one if you suffer sexual side-effects or otherwise are not having the " success " they expect with just one poison. If they " cured " their patients, where would next year's dividends come from? They want us all dependent on them for our " sanity. " I know you (Charlie) sometimes have trouble with all of the conspiracy theories and plots spoken of in this group, but remember one thing: You are NOT paranoid if they REALLY ARE OUT TO GET YOU. (And they are...) BTW, regarding the earlier posts about Afghanistan, I remember reading posts a while back, which I verified at the time, about the Chinese being fed their daily doses by their employers (i.e. the State) in what must be the hugest mass drugging ever. And lately, I have seen stories about increased violence in the workplace in China. Conclusions, anyone? Also, we are bringing our kids home from the wars and if they exhibit anything other than a Polly Sunshine attitude, they are whisked into a military shrink's office and given ADs. No long-term depressive or acute post-traumatic symptoms...simply what are being termed " readjustment issues. " My " daughter " (B.J.'s fiancee) is in the National Guard and we've met several kids who are not depressed by any definition I've ever read but they are given primarily Zoloft (and several of them take Lexapro, too). Then we wonder why they are killing themselves and their families. " If the Lariam doesn't kill you and the 'insurgents' don't get you, we'll get you when you get home " seems to be their overall agenda for our young men and women in the Armed Forces. What a captive audience they have among the military ranks...they can be ordered to put this crap into their bodies with no recourse. Terry cdvlcarpenter <cdvlcarpenter@...> wrote: When Vicki was prescribed Paxil she was told that if she forgot a dose and more then a few hours had passed since her normal time she should wait until the next day. I came to me this morning that these instructions only served to create a dependence. If I understand and please correct me if I'm wrong the half life of Paxil is 21 hours (I've also seen 36) so by the time the normal time comes for the daily dose you are alreadt on the edge of withdrawl. If you skip the dose as instructed you are in withdrawl by the time you get your next Paxil and it would make the withdrawl symptoms diminish creating an adiction. I am having a really cruddy day so I hope you can understand what I'm getting at. If I am right they have created not only a drug that should have never been made for sale but have formulated it in a way to hook the patient. Charlie --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 ABSOLUTELY they have designed a drug intended to create dependency. Just look at their own words about " treating " mental illness; never do they speak of " curing. " Just " correcting chemical imbalances " through long-term multiple daily doses of SSRI/SNRIs, more than one if you suffer sexual side-effects or otherwise are not having the " success " they expect with just one poison. If they " cured " their patients, where would next year's dividends come from? They want us all dependent on them for our " sanity. " I know you (Charlie) sometimes have trouble with all of the conspiracy theories and plots spoken of in this group, but remember one thing: You are NOT paranoid if they REALLY ARE OUT TO GET YOU. (And they are...) BTW, regarding the earlier posts about Afghanistan, I remember reading posts a while back, which I verified at the time, about the Chinese being fed their daily doses by their employers (i.e. the State) in what must be the hugest mass drugging ever. And lately, I have seen stories about increased violence in the workplace in China. Conclusions, anyone? Also, we are bringing our kids home from the wars and if they exhibit anything other than a Polly Sunshine attitude, they are whisked into a military shrink's office and given ADs. No long-term depressive or acute post-traumatic symptoms...simply what are being termed " readjustment issues. " My " daughter " (B.J.'s fiancee) is in the National Guard and we've met several kids who are not depressed by any definition I've ever read but they are given primarily Zoloft (and several of them take Lexapro, too). Then we wonder why they are killing themselves and their families. " If the Lariam doesn't kill you and the 'insurgents' don't get you, we'll get you when you get home " seems to be their overall agenda for our young men and women in the Armed Forces. What a captive audience they have among the military ranks...they can be ordered to put this crap into their bodies with no recourse. Terry cdvlcarpenter <cdvlcarpenter@...> wrote: When Vicki was prescribed Paxil she was told that if she forgot a dose and more then a few hours had passed since her normal time she should wait until the next day. I came to me this morning that these instructions only served to create a dependence. If I understand and please correct me if I'm wrong the half life of Paxil is 21 hours (I've also seen 36) so by the time the normal time comes for the daily dose you are alreadt on the edge of withdrawl. If you skip the dose as instructed you are in withdrawl by the time you get your next Paxil and it would make the withdrawl symptoms diminish creating an adiction. I am having a really cruddy day so I hope you can understand what I'm getting at. If I am right they have created not only a drug that should have never been made for sale but have formulated it in a way to hook the patient. Charlie --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 I came to the realization a long time ago that the government only cared about me to the extent that I pay my taxes. There isn't much that anyone could tell me they have done or plan to do that would come as a great shock. I do believe we have a very good " system " of government but I also believe we leave the goat in charge of the cabbage patch to often. I believe the privacy laws are there to protect the Dr's and drug companies not the people. I believe there are many people in Iraq that are glad we're there but I also realize that had it just been for the sand and camel shit they would be on their own. I think if Bin Laden had been killed on the first day in Afganastan we wouldn't find out about it until the government was ready because the citizens of the United States would have been less understanding at the polls. I also believe that the small group of muslims that are leading the suicide bombers from a safe distance are much more motivated bythe power and influence that could be taken away if the people in that region are free to make choices than by their hate for the United States. There is not much doubt the world leaders have an agenda and the working class is seen as a necessary evil. I just can't let myself forget about the brave men and women that have fought and died for this country. In many cases for something they didn't believe in. Believe the Bible or not it says the love of money is the root of all evil. In politics as with crime just follow the money. Charlie > When Vicki was prescribed Paxil she was told that if she forgot a dose > and more then a few hours had passed since her normal time she should > wait until the next day. I came to me this morning that these > instructions only served to create a dependence. If I understand and > please correct me if I'm wrong the half life of Paxil is 21 hours (I've > also seen 36) so by the time the normal time comes for the daily dose > you are alreadt on the edge of withdrawl. If you skip the dose as > instructed you are in withdrawl by the time you get your next Paxil and > it would make the withdrawl symptoms diminish creating an adiction. I > am having a really cruddy day so I hope you can understand what I'm > getting at. > > If I am right they have created not only a drug that should have never > been made for sale but have formulated it in a way to hook the patient. > > > Charlie > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 I came to the realization a long time ago that the government only cared about me to the extent that I pay my taxes. There isn't much that anyone could tell me they have done or plan to do that would come as a great shock. I do believe we have a very good " system " of government but I also believe we leave the goat in charge of the cabbage patch to often. I believe the privacy laws are there to protect the Dr's and drug companies not the people. I believe there are many people in Iraq that are glad we're there but I also realize that had it just been for the sand and camel shit they would be on their own. I think if Bin Laden had been killed on the first day in Afganastan we wouldn't find out about it until the government was ready because the citizens of the United States would have been less understanding at the polls. I also believe that the small group of muslims that are leading the suicide bombers from a safe distance are much more motivated bythe power and influence that could be taken away if the people in that region are free to make choices than by their hate for the United States. There is not much doubt the world leaders have an agenda and the working class is seen as a necessary evil. I just can't let myself forget about the brave men and women that have fought and died for this country. In many cases for something they didn't believe in. Believe the Bible or not it says the love of money is the root of all evil. In politics as with crime just follow the money. Charlie > When Vicki was prescribed Paxil she was told that if she forgot a dose > and more then a few hours had passed since her normal time she should > wait until the next day. I came to me this morning that these > instructions only served to create a dependence. If I understand and > please correct me if I'm wrong the half life of Paxil is 21 hours (I've > also seen 36) so by the time the normal time comes for the daily dose > you are alreadt on the edge of withdrawl. If you skip the dose as > instructed you are in withdrawl by the time you get your next Paxil and > it would make the withdrawl symptoms diminish creating an adiction. I > am having a really cruddy day so I hope you can understand what I'm > getting at. > > If I am right they have created not only a drug that should have never > been made for sale but have formulated it in a way to hook the patient. > > > Charlie > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 I believe in this " idea " of deception/addiction. I'm having a hell of a time weaning off of my 37.5 xr EFXR. Everytime it dips down too low.....I can't sleep at nite. POOP!!! lsyorke <lsyorke@...> wrote: This is exactly why we tell people who are weaning NOT to skip days!!! You are putting yourself in and out of withdrawal constantly which leads to a failed withdrawal attempt! > When Vicki was prescribed Paxil she was told that if she forgot a dose > and more then a few hours had passed since her normal time she should > wait until the next day. I came to me this morning that these > instructions only served to create a dependence. If I understand and > please correct me if I'm wrong the half life of Paxil is 21 hours (I've > also seen 36) so by the time the normal time comes for the daily dose > you are alreadt on the edge of withdrawl. If you skip the dose as > instructed you are in withdrawl by the time you get your next Paxil and > it would make the withdrawl symptoms diminish creating an adiction. I > am having a really cruddy day so I hope you can understand what I'm > getting at. > > If I am right they have created not only a drug that should have never > been made for sale but have formulated it in a way to hook the patient. > > > Charlie --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 I believe in this " idea " of deception/addiction. I'm having a hell of a time weaning off of my 37.5 xr EFXR. Everytime it dips down too low.....I can't sleep at nite. POOP!!! lsyorke <lsyorke@...> wrote: This is exactly why we tell people who are weaning NOT to skip days!!! You are putting yourself in and out of withdrawal constantly which leads to a failed withdrawal attempt! > When Vicki was prescribed Paxil she was told that if she forgot a dose > and more then a few hours had passed since her normal time she should > wait until the next day. I came to me this morning that these > instructions only served to create a dependence. If I understand and > please correct me if I'm wrong the half life of Paxil is 21 hours (I've > also seen 36) so by the time the normal time comes for the daily dose > you are alreadt on the edge of withdrawl. If you skip the dose as > instructed you are in withdrawl by the time you get your next Paxil and > it would make the withdrawl symptoms diminish creating an adiction. I > am having a really cruddy day so I hope you can understand what I'm > getting at. > > If I am right they have created not only a drug that should have never > been made for sale but have formulated it in a way to hook the patient. > > > Charlie --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 I believe in this " idea " of deception/addiction. I'm having a hell of a time weaning off of my 37.5 xr EFXR. Everytime it dips down too low.....I can't sleep at nite. POOP!!! lsyorke <lsyorke@...> wrote: This is exactly why we tell people who are weaning NOT to skip days!!! You are putting yourself in and out of withdrawal constantly which leads to a failed withdrawal attempt! > When Vicki was prescribed Paxil she was told that if she forgot a dose > and more then a few hours had passed since her normal time she should > wait until the next day. I came to me this morning that these > instructions only served to create a dependence. If I understand and > please correct me if I'm wrong the half life of Paxil is 21 hours (I've > also seen 36) so by the time the normal time comes for the daily dose > you are alreadt on the edge of withdrawl. If you skip the dose as > instructed you are in withdrawl by the time you get your next Paxil and > it would make the withdrawl symptoms diminish creating an adiction. I > am having a really cruddy day so I hope you can understand what I'm > getting at. > > If I am right they have created not only a drug that should have never > been made for sale but have formulated it in a way to hook the patient. > > > Charlie --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 I believe in this " idea " of deception/addiction. I'm having a hell of a time weaning off of my 37.5 xr EFXR. Everytime it dips down too low.....I can't sleep at nite. POOP!!! lsyorke <lsyorke@...> wrote: This is exactly why we tell people who are weaning NOT to skip days!!! You are putting yourself in and out of withdrawal constantly which leads to a failed withdrawal attempt! > When Vicki was prescribed Paxil she was told that if she forgot a dose > and more then a few hours had passed since her normal time she should > wait until the next day. I came to me this morning that these > instructions only served to create a dependence. If I understand and > please correct me if I'm wrong the half life of Paxil is 21 hours (I've > also seen 36) so by the time the normal time comes for the daily dose > you are alreadt on the edge of withdrawl. If you skip the dose as > instructed you are in withdrawl by the time you get your next Paxil and > it would make the withdrawl symptoms diminish creating an adiction. I > am having a really cruddy day so I hope you can understand what I'm > getting at. > > If I am right they have created not only a drug that should have never > been made for sale but have formulated it in a way to hook the patient. > > > Charlie --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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