Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Well it is very interesting that Mr. Lonsdale and the Mr. Meek each put up $150 -$200,000 of their own money to get campaign finance reform. If they wanted my vote they should have tapped 200,000 people for $1 each to pay for it. But they didn't. All sounds nice in 'playing fair', 'level the playing field' but it just doesn't work that way. There is fear that with the finance reform issue that some parts may be challenged while other parts are in effect and the 'balance' may become very unbalanced while it is all argued in the courts. I am not that nice of a person to let my right to vote for whom I want and give my money to whom I want be voted away be run over without a fight . Dirty politics will always be unless we the voters expose the wrong doers and vote them out of office. And it all takes money. $$$$ I cannot be just a one issue voter. That too is narrow and in my mind, wrong. We have to look at the big picture with many pieces to the puzzle. And there are many puzzles not just the one facing Chiropractic. sharron fuchs dc From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of SearsSent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:44 PMOregondcs Subject: What am I missing here? Friends,Chiropractic has traditionally been seen as the medical underdog, the workingman's doctor, the people's choice for aches and pains, even to the extent of withholding the knowledge of chiropractic use from PCPs, who "wouldn't understand."Politics are dirty in a two party system driven by wedge issues that create artificial divisions during election time. The winners become the lackeys for those with the biggest contributions. A level of predictability is made possible that attracts big money for vested interests. The vested interests of the people take a back seat to those with money. The leverage is in the number of dollars contributed, not in the number of people impacted.Taking the money out of the process empowers the people. Why would we not play term limits to our profession's advantage. We've always had the people on our side.Let's do the right thing. SearsNW PDX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Could not of said it better...well wait a minute..if I really, really tried....it could happen ha! Nice job dear colleague, Vern Saboe What am I missing here? > Friends, > > Chiropractic has traditionally been seen as the medical underdog, the > workingman's doctor, the people's choice for aches and pains, even to > the extent of withholding the knowledge of chiropractic use from > PCPs, who " wouldn't understand. " > > Politics are dirty in a two party system driven by wedge issues that > create artificial divisions during election time. The winners become > the lackeys for those with the biggest contributions. A level of > predictability is made possible that attracts big money for vested > interests. The vested interests of the people take a back seat to > those with money. The leverage is in the number of dollars > contributed, not in the number of people impacted. > > Taking the money out of the process empowers the people. Why would > we not play term limits to our profession's advantage. We've always > had the people on our side. > > Let's do the right thing. > > Sears > NW PDX > > > OregonDCs rules: > 1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to > foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve > members will be tolerated. > 2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name. > 3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. > However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, > or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without > his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752 Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind?What gives?This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if we actually all act, save your life and your freedom.Not a word?What am I missing?Dr. Rima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752 Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind?What gives?This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if we actually all act, save your life and your freedom.Not a word?What am I missing?Dr. Rima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 > > I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining > to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the > option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for > shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752 > <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> > Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that > they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind? > What gives? > This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if > we actually all act, save your life and your freedom. > Not a word? > What am I missing? > Dr. Rima > fwiw, self quarantine is just another for of government oppression, except it's voluntary. I will NOT get shots, and I will NOT forfeit my freedom, or my Constitutional rights, to get one right out of he 2 God gave me. I am not going to hide in my home either. I will remain a free person. Those of us alive in 1976 have crystal clear memories. When the " shots or incarceration " choice comes, if millions of Americans stand up and say " no " to both, then we will get neither. This subject is a case where we will be pushed until we push back. Watch the 60 minutes clip, and make it viral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 > > I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining > to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the > option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for > shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752 > <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> > Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that > they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind? > What gives? > This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if > we actually all act, save your life and your freedom. > Not a word? > What am I missing? > Dr. Rima > fwiw, self quarantine is just another for of government oppression, except it's voluntary. I will NOT get shots, and I will NOT forfeit my freedom, or my Constitutional rights, to get one right out of he 2 God gave me. I am not going to hide in my home either. I will remain a free person. Those of us alive in 1976 have crystal clear memories. When the " shots or incarceration " choice comes, if millions of Americans stand up and say " no " to both, then we will get neither. This subject is a case where we will be pushed until we push back. Watch the 60 minutes clip, and make it viral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I think we are a small group of people and need to get the word out about what is really happening. Problem is that I am passionate in my beliefs and some people think I am a little out there. One day, I hope I am wrong, but they will see that I did know what I was talking about. The world ahead is going to be a very bumpy road... hang on for the ride and get as prepared as you can. We plan on " hiding " out at the cabin.... hopefully that plan will work as we will NOT be vaccinated. Our kids however are adults living far away in large cities. Not sure at this point what they plan to do in the event that forced " anything " comes our way. > > I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining > to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the > option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for > shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752 > <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> > Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that > they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind? > What gives? > This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if > we actually all act, save your life and your freedom. > Not a word? > What am I missing? > Dr. Rima > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I think we are a small group of people and need to get the word out about what is really happening. Problem is that I am passionate in my beliefs and some people think I am a little out there. One day, I hope I am wrong, but they will see that I did know what I was talking about. The world ahead is going to be a very bumpy road... hang on for the ride and get as prepared as you can. We plan on " hiding " out at the cabin.... hopefully that plan will work as we will NOT be vaccinated. Our kids however are adults living far away in large cities. Not sure at this point what they plan to do in the event that forced " anything " comes our way. > > I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining > to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the > option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for > shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752 > <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> > Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that > they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind? > What gives? > This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if > we actually all act, save your life and your freedom. > Not a word? > What am I missing? > Dr. Rima > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I think we are a small group of people and need to get the word out about what is really happening. Problem is that I am passionate in my beliefs and some people think I am a little out there. One day, I hope I am wrong, but they will see that I did know what I was talking about. The world ahead is going to be a very bumpy road... hang on for the ride and get as prepared as you can. We plan on " hiding " out at the cabin.... hopefully that plan will work as we will NOT be vaccinated. Our kids however are adults living far away in large cities. Not sure at this point what they plan to do in the event that forced " anything " comes our way. > > I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining > to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the > option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for > shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752 > <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> > Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that > they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind? > What gives? > This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if > we actually all act, save your life and your freedom. > Not a word? > What am I missing? > Dr. Rima > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I think we are a small group of people and need to get the word out about what is really happening. Problem is that I am passionate in my beliefs and some people think I am a little out there. One day, I hope I am wrong, but they will see that I did know what I was talking about. The world ahead is going to be a very bumpy road... hang on for the ride and get as prepared as you can. We plan on " hiding " out at the cabin.... hopefully that plan will work as we will NOT be vaccinated. Our kids however are adults living far away in large cities. Not sure at this point what they plan to do in the event that forced " anything " comes our way. > > I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining > to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the > option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for > shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752 > <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> > Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that > they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind? > What gives? > This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if > we actually all act, save your life and your freedom. > Not a word? > What am I missing? > Dr. Rima > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are quarantined? Better not to have forced vaccines at all. I've no problem staying home during an outbreak but I would still need to get grocery's to feed my kids and my husband would still have to go work or he would not get paid and we'd be homeless. How do you manage that if you are quarantined for what appears to be a non deadly illness anyway? It has become an abuse of laws and a removal of freedom in this country when we force people to take injections for what appears to be profit. It's not that I think quarantine is a bad idea....just that if you let them force one vaccination, they will not stop at that. They will eventually force them all with no regards to the health implications. let's face it, these vaccines contain toxins, poisons...and there is no good reason to inject toxins into your body other than to create disease and death. That's genocide. We do not want legalized genocide. We do not want the government or some organizations telling us what to do with our bodies. While I can't speak for everyone, from my perspective, my body belongs to me and only I should decide what goes into it. If you let them pass one mandate.....it's over, we have lost our rights. > > I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining > to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the > option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for > shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752 > <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> > Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that > they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind? > What gives? > This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if > we actually all act, save your life and your freedom. > Not a word? > What am I missing? > Dr. Rima > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are quarantined? Better not to have forced vaccines at all. I've no problem staying home during an outbreak but I would still need to get grocery's to feed my kids and my husband would still have to go work or he would not get paid and we'd be homeless. How do you manage that if you are quarantined for what appears to be a non deadly illness anyway? It has become an abuse of laws and a removal of freedom in this country when we force people to take injections for what appears to be profit. It's not that I think quarantine is a bad idea....just that if you let them force one vaccination, they will not stop at that. They will eventually force them all with no regards to the health implications. let's face it, these vaccines contain toxins, poisons...and there is no good reason to inject toxins into your body other than to create disease and death. That's genocide. We do not want legalized genocide. We do not want the government or some organizations telling us what to do with our bodies. While I can't speak for everyone, from my perspective, my body belongs to me and only I should decide what goes into it. If you let them pass one mandate.....it's over, we have lost our rights. > > I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining > to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the > option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for > shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752 > <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> > Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that > they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind? > What gives? > This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if > we actually all act, save your life and your freedom. > Not a word? > What am I missing? > Dr. Rima > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are quarantined? Better not to have forced vaccines at all. I've no problem staying home during an outbreak but I would still need to get grocery's to feed my kids and my husband would still have to go work or he would not get paid and we'd be homeless. How do you manage that if you are quarantined for what appears to be a non deadly illness anyway? It has become an abuse of laws and a removal of freedom in this country when we force people to take injections for what appears to be profit. It's not that I think quarantine is a bad idea....just that if you let them force one vaccination, they will not stop at that. They will eventually force them all with no regards to the health implications. let's face it, these vaccines contain toxins, poisons...and there is no good reason to inject toxins into your body other than to create disease and death. That's genocide. We do not want legalized genocide. We do not want the government or some organizations telling us what to do with our bodies. While I can't speak for everyone, from my perspective, my body belongs to me and only I should decide what goes into it. If you let them pass one mandate.....it's over, we have lost our rights. > > I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining > to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the > option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for > shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752 > <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> > Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that > they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind? > What gives? > This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if > we actually all act, save your life and your freedom. > Not a word? > What am I missing? > Dr. Rima > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are quarantined? Better not to have forced vaccines at all. I've no problem staying home during an outbreak but I would still need to get grocery's to feed my kids and my husband would still have to go work or he would not get paid and we'd be homeless. How do you manage that if you are quarantined for what appears to be a non deadly illness anyway? It has become an abuse of laws and a removal of freedom in this country when we force people to take injections for what appears to be profit. It's not that I think quarantine is a bad idea....just that if you let them force one vaccination, they will not stop at that. They will eventually force them all with no regards to the health implications. let's face it, these vaccines contain toxins, poisons...and there is no good reason to inject toxins into your body other than to create disease and death. That's genocide. We do not want legalized genocide. We do not want the government or some organizations telling us what to do with our bodies. While I can't speak for everyone, from my perspective, my body belongs to me and only I should decide what goes into it. If you let them pass one mandate.....it's over, we have lost our rights. > > I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining > to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the > option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for > shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752 > <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> > Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that > they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind? > What gives? > This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if > we actually all act, save your life and your freedom. > Not a word? > What am I missing? > Dr. Rima > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 You're right, but there may come a day when it's no longer our choice. What would you do if a soldier with a gun, under orders by Uncle Sam, came to your door and told you to line up your family and roll up your sleeves, explaining that if you didn't comply they'd fine you and stick you in jail (a concentration camp, really). If you only have one option available to you, and that is the option to self-quarantine, wouldn't you want to be as ready as possible in order to avoid being shipped off to our government's prisons? Wouldn't you want to know ahead of time how to do that? It sounds very doomsday-ish, but it could happen, and it looks like it's closer and closer to happening all the time. Our government already has laws in place that give them the power to do this to us... On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Jan<mercurybabies2@...> wrote: > > > How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are > quarantined? > > Better not to have forced vaccines at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 You're right, but there may come a day when it's no longer our choice. What would you do if a soldier with a gun, under orders by Uncle Sam, came to your door and told you to line up your family and roll up your sleeves, explaining that if you didn't comply they'd fine you and stick you in jail (a concentration camp, really). If you only have one option available to you, and that is the option to self-quarantine, wouldn't you want to be as ready as possible in order to avoid being shipped off to our government's prisons? Wouldn't you want to know ahead of time how to do that? It sounds very doomsday-ish, but it could happen, and it looks like it's closer and closer to happening all the time. Our government already has laws in place that give them the power to do this to us... On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Jan<mercurybabies2@...> wrote: > > > How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are > quarantined? > > Better not to have forced vaccines at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 You're right, but there may come a day when it's no longer our choice. What would you do if a soldier with a gun, under orders by Uncle Sam, came to your door and told you to line up your family and roll up your sleeves, explaining that if you didn't comply they'd fine you and stick you in jail (a concentration camp, really). If you only have one option available to you, and that is the option to self-quarantine, wouldn't you want to be as ready as possible in order to avoid being shipped off to our government's prisons? Wouldn't you want to know ahead of time how to do that? It sounds very doomsday-ish, but it could happen, and it looks like it's closer and closer to happening all the time. Our government already has laws in place that give them the power to do this to us... On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Jan<mercurybabies2@...> wrote: > > > How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are > quarantined? > > Better not to have forced vaccines at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 You're right, but there may come a day when it's no longer our choice. What would you do if a soldier with a gun, under orders by Uncle Sam, came to your door and told you to line up your family and roll up your sleeves, explaining that if you didn't comply they'd fine you and stick you in jail (a concentration camp, really). If you only have one option available to you, and that is the option to self-quarantine, wouldn't you want to be as ready as possible in order to avoid being shipped off to our government's prisons? Wouldn't you want to know ahead of time how to do that? It sounds very doomsday-ish, but it could happen, and it looks like it's closer and closer to happening all the time. Our government already has laws in place that give them the power to do this to us... On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Jan<mercurybabies2@...> wrote: > > > How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are > quarantined? > > Better not to have forced vaccines at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 The answers to my post are most interesting. 1. The whole point of having the groundswell of support for the self quarantine issue is so that the PASS law we are presenting to Congress will have enough support to get passed. It permits self-quarantine instead of mandatory vaccine or concentration camps. Without that support, Congress will not act. 2. How will you feed your family if you are dying, your child is dying (will you really go to work) or you are in a concentration camp? These are life and death issues and they have to be thought through before there is an emergency. Stock pile in case you have to stay home and hope that you never do. 3. We should not have mandatory vaccinations. Right. We should not have globalists who want us dead in power, either. 4. " Standing up " will get you mowed down if you don't do it strategically. 5. Waiting until the syringe is pointed at your arm to figure out what to do is a pretty poor plan. 6. Self quarantine is not government oppression. It is a response that keeps you free and safe - no incarceration and no vaccination - in a crazy world where people are trying to kill you and your family. It is a response to prevent government oppression. It is a poor expedient, but the laws allow for only terrible ones: vaccination or incarceration. Is one of those OK with you? If not, then I propose that we all get on the stick while we have time and get everyone we know to sign that action item. They will ask the same questions this group has, so this is a very useful dialogue. It is almost 6 AM. I am going to bed for a few hours. I cannot wait to hear what the response is - this is enormously important. Yours in health and freedom, Dr. Rima -- In no-forced-vaccination , Roberg <trinnea@...> wrote: > > You're right, but there may come a day when it's no longer our choice. > What would you do if a soldier with a gun, under orders by Uncle Sam, > came to your door and told you to line up your family and roll up your > sleeves, explaining that if you didn't comply they'd fine you and > stick you in jail (a concentration camp, really). If you only have > one option available to you, and that is the option to > self-quarantine, wouldn't you want to be as ready as possible in order > to avoid being shipped off to our government's prisons? Wouldn't you > want to know ahead of time how to do that? It sounds very > doomsday-ish, but it could happen, and it looks like it's closer and > closer to happening all the time. Our government already has laws in > place that give them the power to do this to us... > > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Jan<mercurybabies2@...> wrote: > > > > > > How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are > > quarantined? > > > > Better not to have forced vaccines at all. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 The answers to my post are most interesting. 1. The whole point of having the groundswell of support for the self quarantine issue is so that the PASS law we are presenting to Congress will have enough support to get passed. It permits self-quarantine instead of mandatory vaccine or concentration camps. Without that support, Congress will not act. 2. How will you feed your family if you are dying, your child is dying (will you really go to work) or you are in a concentration camp? These are life and death issues and they have to be thought through before there is an emergency. Stock pile in case you have to stay home and hope that you never do. 3. We should not have mandatory vaccinations. Right. We should not have globalists who want us dead in power, either. 4. " Standing up " will get you mowed down if you don't do it strategically. 5. Waiting until the syringe is pointed at your arm to figure out what to do is a pretty poor plan. 6. Self quarantine is not government oppression. It is a response that keeps you free and safe - no incarceration and no vaccination - in a crazy world where people are trying to kill you and your family. It is a response to prevent government oppression. It is a poor expedient, but the laws allow for only terrible ones: vaccination or incarceration. Is one of those OK with you? If not, then I propose that we all get on the stick while we have time and get everyone we know to sign that action item. They will ask the same questions this group has, so this is a very useful dialogue. It is almost 6 AM. I am going to bed for a few hours. I cannot wait to hear what the response is - this is enormously important. Yours in health and freedom, Dr. Rima -- In no-forced-vaccination , Roberg <trinnea@...> wrote: > > You're right, but there may come a day when it's no longer our choice. > What would you do if a soldier with a gun, under orders by Uncle Sam, > came to your door and told you to line up your family and roll up your > sleeves, explaining that if you didn't comply they'd fine you and > stick you in jail (a concentration camp, really). If you only have > one option available to you, and that is the option to > self-quarantine, wouldn't you want to be as ready as possible in order > to avoid being shipped off to our government's prisons? Wouldn't you > want to know ahead of time how to do that? It sounds very > doomsday-ish, but it could happen, and it looks like it's closer and > closer to happening all the time. Our government already has laws in > place that give them the power to do this to us... > > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Jan<mercurybabies2@...> wrote: > > > > > > How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are > > quarantined? > > > > Better not to have forced vaccines at all. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 The answers to my post are most interesting. 1. The whole point of having the groundswell of support for the self quarantine issue is so that the PASS law we are presenting to Congress will have enough support to get passed. It permits self-quarantine instead of mandatory vaccine or concentration camps. Without that support, Congress will not act. 2. How will you feed your family if you are dying, your child is dying (will you really go to work) or you are in a concentration camp? These are life and death issues and they have to be thought through before there is an emergency. Stock pile in case you have to stay home and hope that you never do. 3. We should not have mandatory vaccinations. Right. We should not have globalists who want us dead in power, either. 4. " Standing up " will get you mowed down if you don't do it strategically. 5. Waiting until the syringe is pointed at your arm to figure out what to do is a pretty poor plan. 6. Self quarantine is not government oppression. It is a response that keeps you free and safe - no incarceration and no vaccination - in a crazy world where people are trying to kill you and your family. It is a response to prevent government oppression. It is a poor expedient, but the laws allow for only terrible ones: vaccination or incarceration. Is one of those OK with you? If not, then I propose that we all get on the stick while we have time and get everyone we know to sign that action item. They will ask the same questions this group has, so this is a very useful dialogue. It is almost 6 AM. I am going to bed for a few hours. I cannot wait to hear what the response is - this is enormously important. Yours in health and freedom, Dr. Rima -- In no-forced-vaccination , Roberg <trinnea@...> wrote: > > You're right, but there may come a day when it's no longer our choice. > What would you do if a soldier with a gun, under orders by Uncle Sam, > came to your door and told you to line up your family and roll up your > sleeves, explaining that if you didn't comply they'd fine you and > stick you in jail (a concentration camp, really). If you only have > one option available to you, and that is the option to > self-quarantine, wouldn't you want to be as ready as possible in order > to avoid being shipped off to our government's prisons? Wouldn't you > want to know ahead of time how to do that? It sounds very > doomsday-ish, but it could happen, and it looks like it's closer and > closer to happening all the time. Our government already has laws in > place that give them the power to do this to us... > > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Jan<mercurybabies2@...> wrote: > > > > > > How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are > > quarantined? > > > > Better not to have forced vaccines at all. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 The answers to my post are most interesting. 1. The whole point of having the groundswell of support for the self quarantine issue is so that the PASS law we are presenting to Congress will have enough support to get passed. It permits self-quarantine instead of mandatory vaccine or concentration camps. Without that support, Congress will not act. 2. How will you feed your family if you are dying, your child is dying (will you really go to work) or you are in a concentration camp? These are life and death issues and they have to be thought through before there is an emergency. Stock pile in case you have to stay home and hope that you never do. 3. We should not have mandatory vaccinations. Right. We should not have globalists who want us dead in power, either. 4. " Standing up " will get you mowed down if you don't do it strategically. 5. Waiting until the syringe is pointed at your arm to figure out what to do is a pretty poor plan. 6. Self quarantine is not government oppression. It is a response that keeps you free and safe - no incarceration and no vaccination - in a crazy world where people are trying to kill you and your family. It is a response to prevent government oppression. It is a poor expedient, but the laws allow for only terrible ones: vaccination or incarceration. Is one of those OK with you? If not, then I propose that we all get on the stick while we have time and get everyone we know to sign that action item. They will ask the same questions this group has, so this is a very useful dialogue. It is almost 6 AM. I am going to bed for a few hours. I cannot wait to hear what the response is - this is enormously important. Yours in health and freedom, Dr. Rima -- In no-forced-vaccination , Roberg <trinnea@...> wrote: > > You're right, but there may come a day when it's no longer our choice. > What would you do if a soldier with a gun, under orders by Uncle Sam, > came to your door and told you to line up your family and roll up your > sleeves, explaining that if you didn't comply they'd fine you and > stick you in jail (a concentration camp, really). If you only have > one option available to you, and that is the option to > self-quarantine, wouldn't you want to be as ready as possible in order > to avoid being shipped off to our government's prisons? Wouldn't you > want to know ahead of time how to do that? It sounds very > doomsday-ish, but it could happen, and it looks like it's closer and > closer to happening all the time. Our government already has laws in > place that give them the power to do this to us... > > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Jan<mercurybabies2@...> wrote: > > > > > > How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are > > quarantined? > > > > Better not to have forced vaccines at all. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 You ask how do you feed your family during an outbreak and a forced quarantine; well, you prepare beforehand. We have been warned for months to store up at least three months of food and emergency supplies and save up money to pay at least three months of bills. This should be done no matter what; (quarantine, martial law, extreme weather). In this day and age it's only common sense to be prepared. Joyce Re: What am I missing here? How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are quarantined?Better not to have forced vaccines at all. I've no problem staying home during an outbreak but I would still need to get grocery's to feed my kids and my husband would still have to go work or he would not get paid and we'd be homeless. How do you manage that if you are quarantined for what appears to be a non deadly illness anyway?It has become an abuse of laws and a removal of freedom in this country when we force people to take injections for what appears to be profit.It's not that I think quarantine is a bad idea....just that if you let them force one vaccination, they will not stop at that. They will eventually force them all with no regards to the health implications. let's face it, these vaccines contain toxins, poisons...and there is no good reason to inject toxins into your body other than to create disease and death. That's genocide. We do not want legalized genocide. We do not want the government or some organizations telling us what to do with our bodies.While I can't speak for everyone, from my perspective, my body belongs to me and only I should decide what goes into it. If you let them pass one mandate.....it's over, we have lost our rights.>> I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining> to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the> option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for> shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752>> Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that> they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind?> What gives?> This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if> we actually all act, save your life and your freedom.> Not a word?> What am I missing?> Dr. Rima> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 You ask how do you feed your family during an outbreak and a forced quarantine; well, you prepare beforehand. We have been warned for months to store up at least three months of food and emergency supplies and save up money to pay at least three months of bills. This should be done no matter what; (quarantine, martial law, extreme weather). In this day and age it's only common sense to be prepared. Joyce Re: What am I missing here? How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are quarantined?Better not to have forced vaccines at all. I've no problem staying home during an outbreak but I would still need to get grocery's to feed my kids and my husband would still have to go work or he would not get paid and we'd be homeless. How do you manage that if you are quarantined for what appears to be a non deadly illness anyway?It has become an abuse of laws and a removal of freedom in this country when we force people to take injections for what appears to be profit.It's not that I think quarantine is a bad idea....just that if you let them force one vaccination, they will not stop at that. They will eventually force them all with no regards to the health implications. let's face it, these vaccines contain toxins, poisons...and there is no good reason to inject toxins into your body other than to create disease and death. That's genocide. We do not want legalized genocide. We do not want the government or some organizations telling us what to do with our bodies.While I can't speak for everyone, from my perspective, my body belongs to me and only I should decide what goes into it. If you let them pass one mandate.....it's over, we have lost our rights.>> I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining> to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the> option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for> shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752>> Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that> they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind?> What gives?> This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if> we actually all act, save your life and your freedom.> Not a word?> What am I missing?> Dr. Rima> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 You ask how do you feed your family during an outbreak and a forced quarantine; well, you prepare beforehand. We have been warned for months to store up at least three months of food and emergency supplies and save up money to pay at least three months of bills. This should be done no matter what; (quarantine, martial law, extreme weather). In this day and age it's only common sense to be prepared. Joyce Re: What am I missing here? How do you feed your family if you cannot go to work because you are quarantined?Better not to have forced vaccines at all. I've no problem staying home during an outbreak but I would still need to get grocery's to feed my kids and my husband would still have to go work or he would not get paid and we'd be homeless. How do you manage that if you are quarantined for what appears to be a non deadly illness anyway?It has become an abuse of laws and a removal of freedom in this country when we force people to take injections for what appears to be profit.It's not that I think quarantine is a bad idea....just that if you let them force one vaccination, they will not stop at that. They will eventually force them all with no regards to the health implications. let's face it, these vaccines contain toxins, poisons...and there is no good reason to inject toxins into your body other than to create disease and death. That's genocide. We do not want legalized genocide. We do not want the government or some organizations telling us what to do with our bodies.While I can't speak for everyone, from my perspective, my body belongs to me and only I should decide what goes into it. If you let them pass one mandate.....it's over, we have lost our rights.>> I do not get it. There is ample discussion of lots of things pertaining> to vaccination, forced vaccination, etc., but not one word about the> option of demanding our right to self-quarantine if the order comes for> shots or incarceration. http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752> <http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2752>> Do people think it is a good idea? A bad idea? A dumb idea? One that> they have gotten behind? One that they cannot get behind?> What gives?> This is arguably the most important item on your horizon and could, if> we actually all act, save your life and your freedom.> Not a word?> What am I missing?> Dr. Rima> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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