Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 A shot of B12 will make the worst shingles attack remiss in an hour. Kirkkarla walsh <faerie1952@...> wrote: We have talked about Zostavax too. Every vaccine is bad for you. They are targeting the over 60 sect, (soon to be lowered to 50!) because of the elders they might have Missed with the flu vaccine, hep B push, and now the pertussis vaccine to help keep it away from your precious grandbabies, UGH. They want to assure that you get alzheimers or parkinsons with this one! It use to say 47 percent effective, HA, but they decided to raise it to 50 percent. Sounds more impressive. The want to raise the odds for you to get shingles!! The shot disturbs your DNA/RNA, and may make you more susseptible to get shingles! It is sposidely a preventative theraphy, not a treatment. Never let them give you the shot with an active case. It Has Happened - with very bad consequences!! But it probably will not prevent shingles (herpes zoster), but may... and I stress MAY, give you a milder case, so They say, by about 2 days shorter duration>? NOT symptom-wise!) Is it worth the risk, and of causing you the side effects mentioned above? And also pneumonia, a full blown chicken pox event (they are hoping your immunity wore off from having chicken pox, or that they can fiddle with that immunity with their shot), or even death from the vaccine?? It is also pretty expensive and not all insurances will pay for it. Often there is a shortage of it too, and has to be Ordered. It is also harder than some to store properly. Anyway... If you get shingles, take some flax seed oil. Simple enuff. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL Vaccines PREVENT Health Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 A shot of B12 will make the worst shingles attack remiss in an hour. Kirkkarla walsh <faerie1952@...> wrote: We have talked about Zostavax too. Every vaccine is bad for you. They are targeting the over 60 sect, (soon to be lowered to 50!) because of the elders they might have Missed with the flu vaccine, hep B push, and now the pertussis vaccine to help keep it away from your precious grandbabies, UGH. They want to assure that you get alzheimers or parkinsons with this one! It use to say 47 percent effective, HA, but they decided to raise it to 50 percent. Sounds more impressive. The want to raise the odds for you to get shingles!! The shot disturbs your DNA/RNA, and may make you more susseptible to get shingles! It is sposidely a preventative theraphy, not a treatment. Never let them give you the shot with an active case. It Has Happened - with very bad consequences!! But it probably will not prevent shingles (herpes zoster), but may... and I stress MAY, give you a milder case, so They say, by about 2 days shorter duration>? NOT symptom-wise!) Is it worth the risk, and of causing you the side effects mentioned above? And also pneumonia, a full blown chicken pox event (they are hoping your immunity wore off from having chicken pox, or that they can fiddle with that immunity with their shot), or even death from the vaccine?? It is also pretty expensive and not all insurances will pay for it. Often there is a shortage of it too, and has to be Ordered. It is also harder than some to store properly. Anyway... If you get shingles, take some flax seed oil. Simple enuff. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL Vaccines PREVENT Health Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 "Sit under your own vine and fig tree."- Jeriamiah Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 That is interesting Kirk. Which kind of B-12 were you thinking of? There are at least 3 kinds that I know of. Oh and how much would one take? best wishes Shan > We have talked about Zostavax too. Every vaccine is bad for you. They are targeting the over 60 sect, (soon to be lowered to 50!) because of the elders they might have Missed with the flu vaccine, hep B push, and now the pertussis vaccine to help keep it away from your precious grandbabies, UGH. They want to assure that you get alzheimers or parkinsons with this one! It use to say 47 percent effective, HA, but they decided to raise it to 50 percent. Sounds more impressive. The want to raise the odds for you to get shingles!! The shot disturbs your DNA/RNA, and may make you more susseptible to get shingles! It is sposidely a preventative theraphy, not a treatment. Never let them give you the shot with an active case. It Has Happened - with very bad consequences!! > But it probably will not prevent shingles (herpes zoster), but may... and I stress MAY, give you a milder case, so They say, by about 2 days shorter duration>? NOT symptom-wise!) Is it worth the risk, and of causing you the side effects mentioned above? And also pneumonia, a full blown chicken pox event (they are hoping your immunity wore off from having chicken pox, or that they can fiddle with that immunity with their shot), or even death from the vaccine?? It is also pretty expensive and not all insurances will pay for it. Often there is a shortage of it too, and has to be Ordered. It is also harder than some to store properly. > Anyway... > If you get shingles, take some flax seed oil. Simple enuff. > Glad Day ~ Karla in IL > > Vaccines PREVENT Health > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 That is interesting Kirk. Which kind of B-12 were you thinking of? There are at least 3 kinds that I know of. Oh and how much would one take? best wishes Shan > We have talked about Zostavax too. Every vaccine is bad for you. They are targeting the over 60 sect, (soon to be lowered to 50!) because of the elders they might have Missed with the flu vaccine, hep B push, and now the pertussis vaccine to help keep it away from your precious grandbabies, UGH. They want to assure that you get alzheimers or parkinsons with this one! It use to say 47 percent effective, HA, but they decided to raise it to 50 percent. Sounds more impressive. The want to raise the odds for you to get shingles!! The shot disturbs your DNA/RNA, and may make you more susseptible to get shingles! It is sposidely a preventative theraphy, not a treatment. Never let them give you the shot with an active case. It Has Happened - with very bad consequences!! > But it probably will not prevent shingles (herpes zoster), but may... and I stress MAY, give you a milder case, so They say, by about 2 days shorter duration>? NOT symptom-wise!) Is it worth the risk, and of causing you the side effects mentioned above? And also pneumonia, a full blown chicken pox event (they are hoping your immunity wore off from having chicken pox, or that they can fiddle with that immunity with their shot), or even death from the vaccine?? It is also pretty expensive and not all insurances will pay for it. Often there is a shortage of it too, and has to be Ordered. It is also harder than some to store properly. > Anyway... > If you get shingles, take some flax seed oil. Simple enuff. > Glad Day ~ Karla in IL > > Vaccines PREVENT Health > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 That is interesting Kirk. Which kind of B-12 were you thinking of? There are at least 3 kinds that I know of. Oh and how much would one take? best wishes Shan > We have talked about Zostavax too. Every vaccine is bad for you. They are targeting the over 60 sect, (soon to be lowered to 50!) because of the elders they might have Missed with the flu vaccine, hep B push, and now the pertussis vaccine to help keep it away from your precious grandbabies, UGH. They want to assure that you get alzheimers or parkinsons with this one! It use to say 47 percent effective, HA, but they decided to raise it to 50 percent. Sounds more impressive. The want to raise the odds for you to get shingles!! The shot disturbs your DNA/RNA, and may make you more susseptible to get shingles! It is sposidely a preventative theraphy, not a treatment. Never let them give you the shot with an active case. It Has Happened - with very bad consequences!! > But it probably will not prevent shingles (herpes zoster), but may... and I stress MAY, give you a milder case, so They say, by about 2 days shorter duration>? NOT symptom-wise!) Is it worth the risk, and of causing you the side effects mentioned above? And also pneumonia, a full blown chicken pox event (they are hoping your immunity wore off from having chicken pox, or that they can fiddle with that immunity with their shot), or even death from the vaccine?? It is also pretty expensive and not all insurances will pay for it. Often there is a shortage of it too, and has to be Ordered. It is also harder than some to store properly. > Anyway... > If you get shingles, take some flax seed oil. Simple enuff. > Glad Day ~ Karla in IL > > Vaccines PREVENT Health > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 That is interesting Kirk. Which kind of B-12 were you thinking of? There are at least 3 kinds that I know of. Oh and how much would one take? best wishes Shan > We have talked about Zostavax too. Every vaccine is bad for you. They are targeting the over 60 sect, (soon to be lowered to 50!) because of the elders they might have Missed with the flu vaccine, hep B push, and now the pertussis vaccine to help keep it away from your precious grandbabies, UGH. They want to assure that you get alzheimers or parkinsons with this one! It use to say 47 percent effective, HA, but they decided to raise it to 50 percent. Sounds more impressive. The want to raise the odds for you to get shingles!! The shot disturbs your DNA/RNA, and may make you more susseptible to get shingles! It is sposidely a preventative theraphy, not a treatment. Never let them give you the shot with an active case. It Has Happened - with very bad consequences!! > But it probably will not prevent shingles (herpes zoster), but may... and I stress MAY, give you a milder case, so They say, by about 2 days shorter duration>? NOT symptom-wise!) Is it worth the risk, and of causing you the side effects mentioned above? And also pneumonia, a full blown chicken pox event (they are hoping your immunity wore off from having chicken pox, or that they can fiddle with that immunity with their shot), or even death from the vaccine?? It is also pretty expensive and not all insurances will pay for it. Often there is a shortage of it too, and has to be Ordered. It is also harder than some to store properly. > Anyway... > If you get shingles, take some flax seed oil. Simple enuff. > Glad Day ~ Karla in IL > > Vaccines PREVENT Health > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 DON’T DO IT!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of gieshouse50@... Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:41 PM To: no-forced-vaccination Subject: Shingles vaccine Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 DON’T DO IT!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of gieshouse50@... Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:41 PM To: no-forced-vaccination Subject: Shingles vaccine Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 DON’T DO IT!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of gieshouse50@... Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:41 PM To: no-forced-vaccination Subject: Shingles vaccine Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 DON’T DO IT!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of gieshouse50@... Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:41 PM To: no-forced-vaccination Subject: Shingles vaccine Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Take L-Lysine for singles - it clears it up faster than any conventional medication I know of! Shingles can be triggered by too much caffeine, chocolate, and STRESS. Caryn L. Cowin caryn_cowin@... P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: Ruth E. Ulvog <putney1963@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 12:18:27 PMSubject: RE: Shingles vaccine DON’T DO IT!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com [mailto:no-forced- vaccination] On Behalf Of gieshouse50@ aol.comSent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:41 PMno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comSubject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Shingles vaccine Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Take L-Lysine for singles - it clears it up faster than any conventional medication I know of! Shingles can be triggered by too much caffeine, chocolate, and STRESS. Caryn L. Cowin caryn_cowin@... P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: Ruth E. Ulvog <putney1963@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 12:18:27 PMSubject: RE: Shingles vaccine DON’T DO IT!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com [mailto:no-forced- vaccination] On Behalf Of gieshouse50@ aol.comSent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:41 PMno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comSubject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Shingles vaccine Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Take L-Lysine for singles - it clears it up faster than any conventional medication I know of! Shingles can be triggered by too much caffeine, chocolate, and STRESS. Caryn L. Cowin caryn_cowin@... P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: Ruth E. Ulvog <putney1963@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 12:18:27 PMSubject: RE: Shingles vaccine DON’T DO IT!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com [mailto:no-forced- vaccination] On Behalf Of gieshouse50@ aol.comSent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:41 PMno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comSubject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Shingles vaccine Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Take L-Lysine for singles - it clears it up faster than any conventional medication I know of! Shingles can be triggered by too much caffeine, chocolate, and STRESS. Caryn L. Cowin caryn_cowin@... P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: Ruth E. Ulvog <putney1963@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 12:18:27 PMSubject: RE: Shingles vaccine DON’T DO IT!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com [mailto:no-forced- vaccination] On Behalf Of gieshouse50@ aol.comSent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:41 PMno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comSubject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Shingles vaccine Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 The logic of a vaccine for a virus you are carrying in remission sounds absurd. The virus is in remission because your immune system recognizes it and attacks it. The vaccine is going to do what? I got shingles after surgery. Run down ,impaired etc.Vaccination is a religion.Kirkpride of lions...gaggle of geese...a murder of crows...and my favorite....A CONGRESS of baboons....From: Ruth E. Ulvog <putney1963@...>Subject: RE: Shingles vaccineTo: no-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 12:18 PM DON’T DO IT!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com [mailto:no-forced- vaccination] On Behalf Of gieshouse50@ aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:41 PM To: no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Shingles vaccine Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 The logic of a vaccine for a virus you are carrying in remission sounds absurd. The virus is in remission because your immune system recognizes it and attacks it. The vaccine is going to do what? I got shingles after surgery. Run down ,impaired etc.Vaccination is a religion.Kirkpride of lions...gaggle of geese...a murder of crows...and my favorite....A CONGRESS of baboons....From: Ruth E. Ulvog <putney1963@...>Subject: RE: Shingles vaccineTo: no-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 12:18 PM DON’T DO IT!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com [mailto:no-forced- vaccination] On Behalf Of gieshouse50@ aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:41 PM To: no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Shingles vaccine Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 The logic of a vaccine for a virus you are carrying in remission sounds absurd. The virus is in remission because your immune system recognizes it and attacks it. The vaccine is going to do what? I got shingles after surgery. Run down ,impaired etc.Vaccination is a religion.Kirkpride of lions...gaggle of geese...a murder of crows...and my favorite....A CONGRESS of baboons....From: Ruth E. Ulvog <putney1963@...>Subject: RE: Shingles vaccineTo: no-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 12:18 PM DON’T DO IT!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com [mailto:no-forced- vaccination] On Behalf Of gieshouse50@ aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:41 PM To: no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Shingles vaccine Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 The logic of a vaccine for a virus you are carrying in remission sounds absurd. The virus is in remission because your immune system recognizes it and attacks it. The vaccine is going to do what? I got shingles after surgery. Run down ,impaired etc.Vaccination is a religion.Kirkpride of lions...gaggle of geese...a murder of crows...and my favorite....A CONGRESS of baboons....From: Ruth E. Ulvog <putney1963@...>Subject: RE: Shingles vaccineTo: no-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 12:18 PM DON’T DO IT!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com [mailto:no-forced- vaccination] On Behalf Of gieshouse50@ aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:41 PM To: no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Shingles vaccine Can anyone elaborate on older people getting the shingle vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 The risk of you contracting the live virus is theoretical, but real. There are two ways to approach this. You can cover yourself with valacyclovir during the perior your husband is likely sheding the virus. This will protect you from becoming infected. The other possibility is for your husband to take valacyclovir instead of the vaccine. The vaccine is only marginally beneficial and if your husband has had two episodes in the past year, it is likely that he is at risk for further recurrences. Rick Furman, MD > > Hello all, > > I am the person with cll in my household which consists of > me and my husband. In the past yr or so, he has had 2 > outbreaks of shingles. They have been on the mild side, but > given these outbreaks he is at risk of re-occurring shingles > outbreaks. > > As a child, I had chicken pox, but have never had shingles, > so far. My understanding is that because of my cll, if he > were to get the vaccine, he would shed live virus that I > should not be exposed to with my cll. > > If I chose to move in with my brother or parents after he > gets the vaccine, how long would I need to stay out of my > home or away from my husband? > > R. Adks NY and Az > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 I was in a similar situation when my husband was vaccinated for Shingles. We planned carefully so I could be out for town for 9 days. That worked well for us. > > Hello all, > > I am the person with cll in my household which consists of > me and my husband. In the past yr or so, he has had 2 > outbreaks of shingles. They have been on the mild side, but > given these outbreaks he is at risk of re-occurring shingles > outbreaks. > > As a child, I had chicken pox, but have never had shingles, > so far. My understanding is that because of my cll, if he > were to get the vaccine, he would shed live virus that I > should not be exposed to with my cll. > > If I chose to move in with my brother or parents after he > gets the vaccine, how long would I need to stay out of my > home or away from my husband? > > R. Adks NY and Az > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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