Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Ingrid et al, Perhaps a reminder of what a virus is would be good! The basics. What is the difference between a bacteria and a virus? That's the thing with a virus, is that if the listener doesn't really get what it is, their brains turn off. I have quoted that a co. put live avian virus in their flu vaccines. Of course,when I hear that I think " bioweapon " , but most just hear the word " virus " and their brains turn off. We need a simple way to explain this to people. Viruses are a nasty business becuase they need a host cell, enter human diploid cells and kidneys of green monkeys. Viruses are not " alive " like a bacteria, where they function and duplicate independently. Yet they are not " dead " either. They insert themselves into the DNA of a host, if I am remembering right. A virus strand by itself cannot duplicate. But I think this also adds mystery because you can peg a lot of problems on a virus, but how do you know that is really causing the symtpoms? And only the " experts " can read the code of the DNA, if the trust is broken, the science becomes questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Ingrid et al, Perhaps a reminder of what a virus is would be good! The basics. What is the difference between a bacteria and a virus? That's the thing with a virus, is that if the listener doesn't really get what it is, their brains turn off. I have quoted that a co. put live avian virus in their flu vaccines. Of course,when I hear that I think " bioweapon " , but most just hear the word " virus " and their brains turn off. We need a simple way to explain this to people. Viruses are a nasty business becuase they need a host cell, enter human diploid cells and kidneys of green monkeys. Viruses are not " alive " like a bacteria, where they function and duplicate independently. Yet they are not " dead " either. They insert themselves into the DNA of a host, if I am remembering right. A virus strand by itself cannot duplicate. But I think this also adds mystery because you can peg a lot of problems on a virus, but how do you know that is really causing the symtpoms? And only the " experts " can read the code of the DNA, if the trust is broken, the science becomes questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I think all we have been told about viruses are lies so virologists can keep their jobs (once they couldn't prove that cancer was caused by a virus they were panicked and so jumped on the few AIDS cases at the beginning and the lies that HIV cause AIDS is the result and the never ending other virus lies and vaccines Sheri At 02:53 PM 10/5/2009, you wrote: > > >Ingrid et al, Perhaps a reminder of what a virus is would be good! >The basics. What is the difference between a bacteria and a virus? >That's the thing with a virus, is that if the listener doesn't >really get what it is, their brains turn off. I have quoted that a >co. put live avian virus in their flu vaccines. Of course,when I >hear that I think " bioweapon " , but most just hear the word " virus " >and their brains turn off. We need a simple way to explain this to people. > >Viruses are a nasty business becuase they need a host cell, enter >human diploid cells and kidneys of green monkeys. Viruses are not > " alive " like a bacteria, where they function and duplicate >independently. Yet they are not " dead " either. They insert >themselves into the DNA of a host, if I am remembering right. A >virus strand by itself cannot duplicate. > >But I think this also adds mystery because you can peg a lot of >problems on a virus, but how do you know that is really causing the >symtpoms? And only the " experts " can read the code of the DNA, if >the trust is broken, the science becomes questionable. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I think all we have been told about viruses are lies so virologists can keep their jobs (once they couldn't prove that cancer was caused by a virus they were panicked and so jumped on the few AIDS cases at the beginning and the lies that HIV cause AIDS is the result and the never ending other virus lies and vaccines Sheri At 02:53 PM 10/5/2009, you wrote: > > >Ingrid et al, Perhaps a reminder of what a virus is would be good! >The basics. What is the difference between a bacteria and a virus? >That's the thing with a virus, is that if the listener doesn't >really get what it is, their brains turn off. I have quoted that a >co. put live avian virus in their flu vaccines. Of course,when I >hear that I think " bioweapon " , but most just hear the word " virus " >and their brains turn off. We need a simple way to explain this to people. > >Viruses are a nasty business becuase they need a host cell, enter >human diploid cells and kidneys of green monkeys. Viruses are not > " alive " like a bacteria, where they function and duplicate >independently. Yet they are not " dead " either. They insert >themselves into the DNA of a host, if I am remembering right. A >virus strand by itself cannot duplicate. > >But I think this also adds mystery because you can peg a lot of >problems on a virus, but how do you know that is really causing the >symtpoms? And only the " experts " can read the code of the DNA, if >the trust is broken, the science becomes questionable. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Perhaps a virus is the dividing line between life and a test tube full of amino acids. I'm not really sure. In fact, there are more things that I am not really sure of than those I am sure of. Please, however, do not equate virus and not bacteria, with biowarfare. while a virus is capable of faster and more directed mutation necessary in dealing with anit-viral substances, a bacteria is by the geometric nature of its celluar design, more capable of inflicting disaster upon the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Perhaps a virus is the dividing line between life and a test tube full of amino acids. I'm not really sure. In fact, there are more things that I am not really sure of than those I am sure of. Please, however, do not equate virus and not bacteria, with biowarfare. while a virus is capable of faster and more directed mutation necessary in dealing with anit-viral substances, a bacteria is by the geometric nature of its celluar design, more capable of inflicting disaster upon the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Back in the 50s I was taught that although viruses had some attributes of life like reproduction and movement, that basically they are crystals..AnnSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Belcher <kurioryu1013@...>Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:21:52 -0700 (PDT)<no-forced-vaccination >Subject: Re: What is a virus? Perhaps a virus is the dividing line between life and a test tube full of amino acids. I'm not really sure. In fact, there are more things that I am not really sure of than those I am sure of. Please, however, do not equate virus and not bacteria, with biowarfare. while a virus is capable of faster and more directed mutation necessary in dealing with anit-viral substances, a bacteria is by the geometric nature of its celluar design, more capable of inflicting disaster upon the world. For example, while ebola and small pox have shown themselves to be devestating agents, they have never come close to the destructive capabilities of agents such as bubonic plague. Such agents as MRSA, VRSA, et al have shown the direcion that bacteria must chose to win in its fight with man. It is not a question of whether bacteria can overcome mans anti-bacterial agents. Mutation is the order of the day, and while viruses are capable of mutation, they have never shown the devestating capabilities of bacteria in this regard. Swaths of our society died in childhood because of such agents as diptheria in the 1800's; a simple yet devastating agent. Agree or disagree, while H1N1 may kill many of our peers, it is a tip of the iceberg type of attack on mankind. Focus on this, or focus on the vaccine agents that have caused such devastation as my daughter's autism. Whatever you choose to believe, we are a fragile organism always on the verge of extinction. The truth is simple. Only the consequences cause us pain.From: Jen <jenrosehope >Subject: What is a virus?no-forced-vaccination Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 4:53 PM Ingrid et al, Perhaps a reminder of what a virus is would be good! The basics. What is the difference between a bacteria and a virus? That's the thing with a virus, is that if the listener doesn't really get what it is, their brains turn off. I have quoted that a co. put live avian virus in their flu vaccines. Of course,when I hear that I think "bioweapon", but most just hear the word "virus" and their brains turn off. We need a simple way to explain this to people.Viruses are a nasty business becuase they need a host cell, enter human diploid cells and kidneys of green monkeys. Viruses are not "alive" like a bacteria, where they function and duplicate independently. Yet they are not "dead" either. They insert themselves into the DNA of a host, if I am remembering right. A virus strand by itself cannot duplicate. But I think this also adds mystery because you can peg a lot of problems on a virus, but how do you know that is reallycausing the symtpoms? And only the "experts" can read the code of the DNA, if the trust is broken, the science becomes questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Back in the 50s I was taught that although viruses had some attributes of life like reproduction and movement, that basically they are crystals..AnnSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Belcher <kurioryu1013@...>Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:21:52 -0700 (PDT)<no-forced-vaccination >Subject: Re: What is a virus? Perhaps a virus is the dividing line between life and a test tube full of amino acids. I'm not really sure. In fact, there are more things that I am not really sure of than those I am sure of. Please, however, do not equate virus and not bacteria, with biowarfare. while a virus is capable of faster and more directed mutation necessary in dealing with anit-viral substances, a bacteria is by the geometric nature of its celluar design, more capable of inflicting disaster upon the world. For example, while ebola and small pox have shown themselves to be devestating agents, they have never come close to the destructive capabilities of agents such as bubonic plague. Such agents as MRSA, VRSA, et al have shown the direcion that bacteria must chose to win in its fight with man. It is not a question of whether bacteria can overcome mans anti-bacterial agents. Mutation is the order of the day, and while viruses are capable of mutation, they have never shown the devestating capabilities of bacteria in this regard. Swaths of our society died in childhood because of such agents as diptheria in the 1800's; a simple yet devastating agent. Agree or disagree, while H1N1 may kill many of our peers, it is a tip of the iceberg type of attack on mankind. Focus on this, or focus on the vaccine agents that have caused such devastation as my daughter's autism. Whatever you choose to believe, we are a fragile organism always on the verge of extinction. The truth is simple. Only the consequences cause us pain.From: Jen <jenrosehope >Subject: What is a virus?no-forced-vaccination Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 4:53 PM Ingrid et al, Perhaps a reminder of what a virus is would be good! The basics. What is the difference between a bacteria and a virus? That's the thing with a virus, is that if the listener doesn't really get what it is, their brains turn off. I have quoted that a co. put live avian virus in their flu vaccines. Of course,when I hear that I think "bioweapon", but most just hear the word "virus" and their brains turn off. We need a simple way to explain this to people.Viruses are a nasty business becuase they need a host cell, enter human diploid cells and kidneys of green monkeys. Viruses are not "alive" like a bacteria, where they function and duplicate independently. Yet they are not "dead" either. They insert themselves into the DNA of a host, if I am remembering right. A virus strand by itself cannot duplicate. But I think this also adds mystery because you can peg a lot of problems on a virus, but how do you know that is reallycausing the symtpoms? And only the "experts" can read the code of the DNA, if the trust is broken, the science becomes questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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