Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Robin, I've been researching Grapeseed Oil for an article I am writing and there have been two studies done so far that show consuming 1 ounce and, in the second study, up to 1 1/2 ounces of grapeseed oil daily increases HDL and reduces LDL and triglycerides. There was a noticeable increase in just 3 weeks. I know some here don't see an association between cholesterol and heart disease, but I was reading that the HDLs " wash " any accumulated plaques off of blood vessels to the liver for excretion. Don't know myself, but grapeseed oil seems harmless enough if someone has high LDLs and triglycerides and wants to raise their HDLs to improve the overall ratio. http://www.lifestar.com/Pages/GSO1.html ine in SC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 You will probably find http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/hd.html interesting. Roman givemeamomenttothink wrote: > > What foods are good for helping the body to clean out the arteries > and any possible build-ups in your body? Are there foods that can > actually reverse or prevent heart attacks and strokes? > > Peace and Love of Christ be with you, > Robin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2002 Report Share Posted June 22, 2002 ine- >two studies done so far that show consuming 1 ounce and, in >the second study, up to 1 1/2 ounces of grapeseed oil daily increases HDL >and reduces LDL and triglycerides. But what about actual direct measurements of blockages and inflammation (not to mention heart attacks) instead of suspect surrogate markers? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2002 Report Share Posted June 22, 2002 , what would those measurements (of blockages and inflammation) be? What about insulin resistance, is there a way to test for that? Also in response to a previous post, Cholesterol Myths is too technical for most people to understand. However on Amazon.com, I did find about 5 " layperson " books not mentioned anywhere on the WAP Foundation site, which apparently (I haven't read them yet) debunk the cholesterol/heart theory. Several are written by doctors. Can't wait to read them and share with loved ones. Daphne > > But what about actual direct measurements of blockages and inflammation > (not to mention heart attacks) instead of suspect surrogate markers? > > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2002 Report Share Posted June 22, 2002 > Daphne- > > >, what would those measurements (of blockages and inflammation) be? > > That's a good question, actually. I don't think there _are_ any > standardized numerical measurements of blockage and inflammation, or if > there are they sure aren't reported much, because all anyone ever focuses > on are surrogate markers like total cholesterol and other lipid > numbers. Angiograms have been used for over 20 years to measures blockages in arteries. It is a type of x-ray in which iodine based dye is injected into the artery to increase contrast. Doctors can measure any change in blockages by comparing angiograms. It is not a very comfortable procedure. The dye is injected through a catheter or small tube that is inserted usually in the groin area and threaded up to the heart. The test can run 1 to 3 hours and is very expensive. Sometimes as much as $3000.00. More recently Ultra High Speed CT scans are being used. These high- speed systems can x-ray a moving object such as a beating heart without blurring the image. These are the types of scans that are now being marketed directly to the public by clinics that specialize in heart or full body scans. These scans are not invasive, take only about 10 minutes, and are a lot less expensive at about $500.00. These tests are controversial since they measure calcification of the arteries. High levels of calcification may correlate to coronary artery disease, or like high cholesterol may mean nothing, > Arguably the only presently-used surrogate marker that has any > relation to actual heart disease and risk is c-reactive protein, but > everyone obsesses about lipids and cholesterol-lowering drugs. However, > there are devices which will see how blocked someone's arteries are, and I > imagine at some point inflammation is sometimes surveyed, and those are the > actual disease conditions -- blockage and inflammation -- whereas lipid > numbers are just supposed to be indicators, red flags, and almost all of > them are either highly dubious or outright BS. > > >What about insulin resistance, is there a way to test for that? > > The glucose tolerance test is a fairly useful indicator, though since you > drink a giant cup of glucose on an empty stomach and then monitor your > blood sugar for hours afterwards it's not exactly good for you. (Years > ago, when I took my GTT, I ran out of my doctor's office when it was all > over and blindly grabbed cookies and candies and god knows what else like a > junky desperately in need of a fix.) > > You can also get a blood sugar test kit and prick your finger regularly to > monitor your levels as they are in the real world, which may be a better > way to go about it. > > >Also in response to a previous post, Cholesterol Myths is too technical > >for most people > >to understand. > > Perhaps, but proof is technical. Anything sufficiently non- technical just > isn't going to be adequate. (And I'm pretty much in the same boat as you > are: my GF refuses to believe any of this stuff I tell her, and won't read > a technical book like _Cholesterol Myths_ either because she doesn't think > she can understand it (wrong) and because she thinks she doesn't need to do > any hard-core research of her own because her doctors tell her what to do > (wrong) and because she's sure that her doctors are telling her the right > things because they are knowledgeable about these things and non- doctors > aren't (also wrong). As her family history is pretty much heart attack > after heart attack and aneurysm after aneurysm with a dash of diabetes > thrown in for good measure, I'm afraid this is going to end very badly. > > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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