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At 04:39 PM 6/13/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>I used the NT recipe for LF red bell peppers and put them up on Tues. This

morning there were two spots of white mold on the top. Bits of the peppers are

above the liquid line in the jar--is this my problem? Should I open the jar

(even though it hasn't been three days yet) and take the mold off and put a bit

more water in? Are they ruined?

>

>

When I talked to a Korean person about kimchi and mold she said they just remove

the mold and eat the kimchi. BUT -- I've found since I added a bit of vinegar or

brine from the previous batch, I haven't had that problem. I've heard that

vegies don't get the dangerous kinds of mold, but I don't like mold at all or

trust it. But people who make cheese let it mold all the time ...

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

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I have removed the mold off a couple of jars myself

(of cucumbers and broccoli). For me, too, I think it

was because the cukes got above the liquid.

Do someone have a brilliant idea of something that

could be put on top of the veggies to keep them from

floating to the surface?

Thanks!

Judy in Connectictu

--- Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...>

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> At 04:39 PM 6/13/2002 -0400, you wrote:

> >I used the NT recipe for LF red bell peppers and

> put them up on Tues. This morning there were two

> spots of white mold on the top. Bits of the peppers

> are above the liquid line in the jar--is this my

> problem? Should I open the jar (even though it

> hasn't been three days yet) and take the mold off

> and put a bit more water in? Are they ruined?

> >

> >

>

> When I talked to a Korean person about kimchi and

> mold she said they just remove the mold and eat the

> kimchi. BUT -- I've found since I added a bit of

> vinegar or brine from the previous batch, I haven't

> had that problem. I've heard that vegies don't get

> the dangerous kinds of mold, but I don't like mold

> at all or trust it. But people who make cheese let

> it mold all the time ...

>

>

>

> Heidi Schuppenhauer

> Trillium Custom Software Inc.

> heidis@...

>

>

>

>

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Hey this idea is what some saurkraut makers do: Float

a plastic bag of water on the surface. If I were

making something in a jar I would use a smaller

thinner plastic bag, and perhaps I would still double

bag it as some saurkraut makers say.

Gosh, now I want to try it! Has anyone tried this?

On thinking, perhaps it really does not keep them

below the liquid. Hmm.

Steve

--- Judy G <auntjudyg@...> wrote:

>

> I have removed the mold off a couple of jars myself

> (of cucumbers and broccoli). For me, too, I think

> it

> was because the cukes got above the liquid.

>

> Do someone have a brilliant idea of something that

> could be put on top of the veggies to keep them from

> floating to the surface?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Judy in Connectictu

>

>

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Yeah, I think that would do it! Thanks!

--- Steve Veeneman <svnmn@...> wrote:

> Hey this idea is what some saurkraut makers do:

> Float

> a plastic bag of water on the surface. If I were

> making something in a jar I would use a smaller

> thinner plastic bag, and perhaps I would still

> double

> bag it as some saurkraut makers say.

>

> Gosh, now I want to try it! Has anyone tried this?

> On thinking, perhaps it really does not keep them

> below the liquid. Hmm.

>

> Steve

> --- Judy G <auntjudyg@...> wrote:

> >

> > I have removed the mold off a couple of jars

> myself

> > (of cucumbers and broccoli). For me, too, I think

> > it

> > was because the cukes got above the liquid.

> >

> > Do someone have a brilliant idea of something that

> > could be put on top of the veggies to keep them

> from

> > floating to the surface?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Judy in Connectictu

> >

> >

>

>

> =====

> # Steve Veeneman - svnmn@...

> # What do you really want...

>

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I had a somewhat similar thing happen with my fermented beets. What I did

was remove the mold and added enough liquid to cover all the veggies. The

beets ahve been fine.

Peace,

Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio

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Subject: Help! Mold in my LF Peppers

> I used the NT recipe for LF red bell peppers and put them up on Tues.

This morning there were two spots of white mold on the top. Bits of the

peppers are above the liquid line in the jar--is this my problem? Should I

open the jar (even though it hasn't been three days yet) and take the mold

off and put a bit more water in? Are they ruined?

>

>

>

>

>

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Judy,

Be sure to use a wide mouth quart jar. I think a small jar like a pickled

herring jar might just fit.

Peace,

Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio

> Do someone have a brilliant idea of something that

> could be put on top of the veggies to keep them from

> floating to the surface?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Judy in Connectictu

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At 12:14 PM 6/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>Hey this idea is what some saurkraut makers do: Float

>a plastic bag of water on the surface. If I were

>making something in a jar I would use a smaller

>thinner plastic bag, and perhaps I would still double

>bag it as some saurkraut makers say.

I've also heard of people using a rock, or a ceramic disk. Wouldn't it be neat

to have a line of ceramic disks made just to fit Mason jars? I'd bet it would be

pretty easy to contract with a person who does stoneware. Or better, maybe there

are glass disks made for some purpose that would suit (paper weights? coasters?

ashtrays?).

If you don't mind plastic, you can also do the initial fermentation in a big

freezer ziplock bag, which is really easy -- no air bubbles, no mold. Then I

decant into jars after it is nice and sour. Some of the kraut makers actually

make it in a garbage bag (which I WOULDN'T recommend -- garbage bags aren't

exactly food-grade ... ). The bags also take up less room on the countertop.

Heidi Schuppenhauer

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