Introduction and my gluten story

[Guest guest]

Hi folks!

I too have been lurking for a few weeks, and want to

thank you all for your contributions.

About ten years ago I made a self-hypnosis cassette

tape with the suggestion that I would get healthier

and healthier over the passage of time with no

apparent effort. Since then my interests and

lifestyle have been tending more and more in a

direction you are all familiar with. I am fifty this

year, but I wish I had tried that technique in my

teens.

Well before I discovered Weston A. Price's astounding

book, I had been reading Eat Right 4 your Blood Type

by Dr. D'Adamo. In that book he made a strong

case for avoiding wheat, focusing on the 'Wheat Germ

Lectin,' as I recall. I am a type O, but this notion

seemed pretty strange to me. I am sort of an explorer

though (see http://members.aol.com/svnmn for more on

me ) so I tried it. As he claimed it would take weeks

for the effects of wheat to wear off.

After about two weeks I noticed what I called

'inappropriate happiness,' for that is what it seemed

like. Now I call that feeling normal, but I must have

been a grouch my whole life before! After four weeks

I began gradually losing weight, about a pound every

four days. After two weeks I was losing a pound of my

spare tire every three days, and two weeks more my

bathroom scale showed a pound less every two days! I

was elated and in awe.

After about a month of that I finally ate a single

slice of bread. Suddenly I was back to my moody self,

and all the weight loss stopped.

I have never again succeeded in being totally without

wheat for that long. It is hard to do. I have never

forgotten the experience though, and wish wheat were

easier to avoid.

I just checked out the finer health website, and am

very impressed. Thank you, whoever posted it!

Cheers to you all!

Steve

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[Guest guest]

Steve,

Thanks for sharing your experience. What do you eat in place of

wheat? Do you eat other grains such as oats and brown rice? I have

tried to cut down on grains a lot but haven't been able to eat enough

vegetables to maintain my activity level (I am lift weights 2 to 3

times a week and run 2 to 3 days a week).

> Hi folks!

>

> I too have been lurking for a few weeks, and want to

> thank you all for your contributions.

>

> About ten years ago I made a self-hypnosis cassette

> tape with the suggestion that I would get healthier

> and healthier over the passage of time with no

> apparent effort. Since then my interests and

> lifestyle have been tending more and more in a

> direction you are all familiar with. I am fifty this

> year, but I wish I had tried that technique in my

> teens.

>

> Well before I discovered Weston A. Price's astounding

> book, I had been reading Eat Right 4 your Blood Type

> by Dr. D'Adamo. In that book he made a strong

> case for avoiding wheat, focusing on the 'Wheat Germ

> Lectin,' as I recall. I am a type O, but this notion

> seemed pretty strange to me. I am sort of an explorer

> though (see http://members.aol.com/svnmn for more on

> me ) so I tried it. As he claimed it would take weeks

> for the effects of wheat to wear off.

>

> After about two weeks I noticed what I called

> 'inappropriate happiness,' for that is what it seemed

> like. Now I call that feeling normal, but I must have

> been a grouch my whole life before! After four weeks

> I began gradually losing weight, about a pound every

> four days. After two weeks I was losing a pound of my

> spare tire every three days, and two weeks more my

> bathroom scale showed a pound less every two days! I

> was elated and in awe.

>

> After about a month of that I finally ate a single

> slice of bread. Suddenly I was back to my moody self,

> and all the weight loss stopped.

>

> I have never again succeeded in being totally without

> wheat for that long. It is hard to do. I have never

> forgotten the experience though, and wish wheat were

> easier to avoid.

>

> I just checked out the finer health website, and am

> very impressed. Thank you, whoever posted it!

>

> Cheers to you all!

>

> Steve

>

> =====

> # Steve Veeneman - svnmn@y...

> # What do you really want...

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

At 03:55 PM 5/22/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Thanks for sharing your experience. What do you eat in place of

>wheat? Do you eat other grains such as oats and brown rice? I have

>tried to cut down on grains a lot but haven't been able to eat enough

>vegetables to maintain my activity level (I am lift weights 2 to 3

>times a week and run 2 to 3 days a week).

Both Body for Life and Cliff Sheat's books give a pretty balanced idea of

what to eat, esp. if you are working out (they deal with athletes a lot).

Neither is very pro-wheat (they tend to say things like " avoid junk food

like muffins and bread " , but it's not clear *why* they say that except they

are empty calories). Most of the food combinations and recipes they use

involve oats, whole ground corn, brown rice, potatoes (esp. sweet

potatoes), beans. And they always combine the protein and carb in the same

meal, which is extremely filling and satisfying and works well for energy.

Here is the basic diet they both use:

1. Eat 5 meals a day (eat every 3 hours)

2. In each big meal (breakfast, lunch, dinner), have one serving of meat,

one serving of non-starchy vegies, and one serving of a starchy vegie or

corn/oat baked good (tortillas/beans, for instance).

3. You can do the same for the 2 small meals, or something easy like a

smoothie or yogurt and fruit. But it has to have carb and protein.

4. Add MCT for more calories as needed (modify this part to any fat you

like, unless you are trying for a body-builder physique).

Body for Life uses an easy method for measuring a " serving " (one serving

equals the size of a fist), while Cliff Sheats (a nutritionist), is more

exact, specifying oz. of protein depending on your energy needs, and about

a cup of starch, and about one or two cups of lean vegie. Then add MCT or

coconut oil to add more calories as needed.

These guys tend to be low-fat too, but that's easily modified (Cliff

doesn't regard MCT as a fat: but he uses it a lot to add calories). Anyway,

they do a really good job at getting jocks into shape, and it works from an

appetite-balancing point of view too, and it's not a bad " structure " for

NT. The NT book doesn't really tell you how much of what to eat, just that

it may be different for different people: but the Cliff Sheats methodology

gives a decent framework. And 5 meals a day makes for good balanced energy

too. Anyway, it works for my 6'5 " fairly active husband who also has given

up wheat!

I make cookies for him too, to snack on (non-wheat cookies are easy to

make). But otherwise we don't do much with baked goods: they are very

time-consuming and don't " stick with you " like say, a baked potato with

butter does, and harder to digest IMO.

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

[Guest guest]

How about lentils/legumes?

--- alecwood <me@...> wrote:

> Steve,

>

> Thanks for sharing your experience. What do you eat

> in place of

> wheat? Do you eat other grains such as oats and

> brown rice? I have

> tried to cut down on grains a lot but haven't been

> able to eat enough

> vegetables to maintain my activity level (I am lift

> weights 2 to 3

> times a week and run 2 to 3 days a week).

>

>

> > Hi folks!

> >

> > I too have been lurking for a few weeks, and want

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[Guest guest]

Hello Steve, We, My husband and myself diagnosed ourselves as beening

gluten intolerant. For a whole year we did not eat wheat, oats, rye,

or barley in any form and were very strict. We did not do this to

lose weight and did not keep track. But after that year my husband

went in for a check up and found that he went from 180lbs to 155 and

so I weighed my self and found that I to lost 15 lbs. Any way we

found out that we could eat wheat, oats and the such but only as

Sally has put it in her book. I will say, 2 years before the gluten

free diet (and to the present day) we only eat whole natural foods

except pork. I do believe the world is miss using our grains that

God has givin to us to eat.

Barb in MO

> > Hi folks!

> >

> > I too have been lurking for a few weeks, and want to

> > thank you all for your contributions.

> >

> > About ten years ago I made a self-hypnosis cassette

> > tape with the suggestion that I would get healthier

> > and healthier over the passage of time with no

> > apparent effort. Since then my interests and

> > lifestyle have been tending more and more in a

> > direction you are all familiar with. I am fifty this

> > year, but I wish I had tried that technique in my

> > teens.

> >

> > Well before I discovered Weston A. Price's astounding

> > book, I had been reading Eat Right 4 your Blood Type

> > by Dr. D'Adamo. In that book he made a strong

> > case for avoiding wheat, focusing on the 'Wheat Germ

> > Lectin,' as I recall. I am a type O, but this notion

> > seemed pretty strange to me. I am sort of an explorer

> > though (see http://members.aol.com/svnmn for more on

> > me ) so I tried it. As he claimed it would take weeks

> > for the effects of wheat to wear off.

> >

> > After about two weeks I noticed what I called

> > 'inappropriate happiness,' for that is what it seemed

> > like. Now I call that feeling normal, but I must have

> > been a grouch my whole life before! After four weeks

> > I began gradually losing weight, about a pound every

> > four days. After two weeks I was losing a pound of my

> > spare tire every three days, and two weeks more my

> > bathroom scale showed a pound less every two days! I

> > was elated and in awe.

> >

> > After about a month of that I finally ate a single

> > slice of bread. Suddenly I was back to my moody self,

> > and all the weight loss stopped.

> >

> > I have never again succeeded in being totally without

> > wheat for that long. It is hard to do. I have never

> > forgotten the experience though, and wish wheat were

> > easier to avoid.

> >

> > I just checked out the finer health website, and am

> > very impressed. Thank you, whoever posted it!

> >

> > Cheers to you all!

> >

> > Steve

> >

> > =====

> > # Steve Veeneman - svnmn@y...

> > # What do you really want...

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

What is MCT?

----- Original Message -----

From: Heidi Schuppenhauer

Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:21 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Introduction and my gluten story

At 03:55 PM 5/22/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Thanks for sharing your experience. What do you eat in place of

>wheat? Do you eat other grains such as oats and brown rice? I have

>tried to cut down on grains a lot but haven't been able to eat enough

>vegetables to maintain my activity level (I am lift weights 2 to 3

>times a week and run 2 to 3 days a week).

Both Body for Life and Cliff Sheat's books give a pretty balanced idea of

what to eat, esp. if you are working out (they deal with athletes a lot).

Neither is very pro-wheat (they tend to say things like " avoid junk food

like muffins and bread " , but it's not clear *why* they say that except they

are empty calories). Most of the food combinations and recipes they use

involve oats, whole ground corn, brown rice, potatoes (esp. sweet

potatoes), beans. And they always combine the protein and carb in the same

meal, which is extremely filling and satisfying and works well for energy.

Here is the basic diet they both use:

1. Eat 5 meals a day (eat every 3 hours)

2. In each big meal (breakfast, lunch, dinner), have one serving of meat,

one serving of non-starchy vegies, and one serving of a starchy vegie or

corn/oat baked good (tortillas/beans, for instance).

3. You can do the same for the 2 small meals, or something easy like a

smoothie or yogurt and fruit. But it has to have carb and protein.

4. Add MCT for more calories as needed (modify this part to any fat you

like, unless you are trying for a body-builder physique).

Body for Life uses an easy method for measuring a " serving " (one serving

equals the size of a fist), while Cliff Sheats (a nutritionist), is more

exact, specifying oz. of protein depending on your energy needs, and about

a cup of starch, and about one or two cups of lean vegie. Then add MCT or

coconut oil to add more calories as needed.

These guys tend to be low-fat too, but that's easily modified (Cliff

doesn't regard MCT as a fat: but he uses it a lot to add calories). Anyway,

they do a really good job at getting jocks into shape, and it works from an

appetite-balancing point of view too, and it's not a bad " structure " for

NT. The NT book doesn't really tell you how much of what to eat, just that

it may be different for different people: but the Cliff Sheats methodology

gives a decent framework. And 5 meals a day makes for good balanced energy

too. Anyway, it works for my 6'5 " fairly active husband who also has given

up wheat!

I make cookies for him too, to snack on (non-wheat cookies are easy to

make). But otherwise we don't do much with baked goods: they are very

time-consuming and don't " stick with you " like say, a baked potato with

butter does, and harder to digest IMO.

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

[Guest guest]

At 07:54 AM 5/23/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>What is MCT?

Medium Chain Triglycerides: it's a portion of Coconut Oil. Liquid,

tasteless, odorless, good on salad. It's been used for years as a calorie

supplement to kids and adults that can't digest fats: it gets " slurped "

through the liver's Portal vein directly into the blood stream and stored

in cells for extra energy, but not in fat cells. Instant energy. So

atheletes use it too, and you can buy it at GNC.

However, unless you are REALLY sick, coconut oil does the same thing, and

it's cheaper and easier to handle, plus it has extra goodies like Lauric

Acid. Coconut oil isn't good on salads though, unless maybe it's in the 80's.

>

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...