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Get out while you can Gab dude!

Run for your life!

Re: Serizone?

> Okay, I'm really sorry, but you are very rude. I am an intern student at

a

> residential substance abuse recovery clinic. The reason why I joined

this

> list is because I strongly feel that SSRI medications cause more harm

than good

> and wanted to educate myself more on this topic. I am new to the field

of

> mental health and thought this list would be a good source to gain

knowledge

> and information on this topic. Was I wrong? Maybe I joined the wrong

list.

> I thought people on group lists were suppose to share information and

educate

> each other. I guess I thought I was on a list with a group of

professionals

> to consult with, but I guess not. Your comments to both of my posts have

> been very offending. Is there a reason why you are such a bitter person?

I

> graduate in December with a Master's degree in LPC. No, I don't have the

> answers to everything! I'M NEW TO THE FIELD OF MENTAL HEALTH!!! What

good are

> group lists that focus on a specific topic if reliable information is not

> available? Was I wrong in hoping to get some questions answered from

this list?

> I guess so....based on your friendly comments!

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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Get out while you can Gab dude!

Run for your life!

Re: Serizone?

> Okay, I'm really sorry, but you are very rude. I am an intern student at

a

> residential substance abuse recovery clinic. The reason why I joined

this

> list is because I strongly feel that SSRI medications cause more harm

than good

> and wanted to educate myself more on this topic. I am new to the field

of

> mental health and thought this list would be a good source to gain

knowledge

> and information on this topic. Was I wrong? Maybe I joined the wrong

list.

> I thought people on group lists were suppose to share information and

educate

> each other. I guess I thought I was on a list with a group of

professionals

> to consult with, but I guess not. Your comments to both of my posts have

> been very offending. Is there a reason why you are such a bitter person?

I

> graduate in December with a Master's degree in LPC. No, I don't have the

> answers to everything! I'M NEW TO THE FIELD OF MENTAL HEALTH!!! What

good are

> group lists that focus on a specific topic if reliable information is not

> available? Was I wrong in hoping to get some questions answered from

this list?

> I guess so....based on your friendly comments!

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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Get out while you can Gab dude!

Run for your life!

Re: Serizone?

> Okay, I'm really sorry, but you are very rude. I am an intern student at

a

> residential substance abuse recovery clinic. The reason why I joined

this

> list is because I strongly feel that SSRI medications cause more harm

than good

> and wanted to educate myself more on this topic. I am new to the field

of

> mental health and thought this list would be a good source to gain

knowledge

> and information on this topic. Was I wrong? Maybe I joined the wrong

list.

> I thought people on group lists were suppose to share information and

educate

> each other. I guess I thought I was on a list with a group of

professionals

> to consult with, but I guess not. Your comments to both of my posts have

> been very offending. Is there a reason why you are such a bitter person?

I

> graduate in December with a Master's degree in LPC. No, I don't have the

> answers to everything! I'M NEW TO THE FIELD OF MENTAL HEALTH!!! What

good are

> group lists that focus on a specific topic if reliable information is not

> available? Was I wrong in hoping to get some questions answered from

this list?

> I guess so....based on your friendly comments!

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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" mental disorders " (ADHD, Bi-Polar, Social Anxiety Disorder) are not medical

diseases or illnesses. This is a fraud. No child has a brain scan, blood test,

X-Ray or any evidence of physical abnormality to verify they are " ill " or

" diseased. "

Yet psychiatrists continue to pound the public with misleading and fraudulent

statements that these so called mental disorders are biochemical or neurological

conditions. That is false. They are simply a list of behaviors that

psychiatrists vote into existence and insert into their billing bible, the

Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

This has led to over 8 million children in the U.S. taking mind-altering

psychiatric drugs.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders, 4th Edition

(DSM-IV), published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA), is

psychiatry's billing bible of " disorders " from which psychiatric screening,

diagnoses and their treatment are derived. The current edition lists 374

psychiatric conditions that have been identified as mental disorders.

Yet, the disorders contained in the DSM-IV are arrived at by consensus, not by

scientific criteria. There are no blood tests, brain scans, X-Rays, MRIs or

" chemical imbalance " tests that can scientifically validate any mental

" disorder " as a disease or illness. Canadian psychologist Tana Dineen reports,

" Unlike medical diagnoses that convey a probable cause, appropriate treatment

and likely prognosis, the disorders listed in DSM-IV are terms arrived at

through peer consensus " - literally, a vote by APA committee members.

Re: Serizone?

> Terry,

>

> I did not conduct a valid and reliable research on how many people have

> mental illness. I simply threw out 98 percent as a number based on my

> mental calculations of how many people have confessed having some form of

mental

> health issues once they found out I was a therapist. Am I off a bit?

> Maybe....this is not being published in a medical journal so I didn't think

that my

> estimation was so crucial to be exact.

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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" mental disorders " (ADHD, Bi-Polar, Social Anxiety Disorder) are not medical

diseases or illnesses. This is a fraud. No child has a brain scan, blood test,

X-Ray or any evidence of physical abnormality to verify they are " ill " or

" diseased. "

Yet psychiatrists continue to pound the public with misleading and fraudulent

statements that these so called mental disorders are biochemical or neurological

conditions. That is false. They are simply a list of behaviors that

psychiatrists vote into existence and insert into their billing bible, the

Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

This has led to over 8 million children in the U.S. taking mind-altering

psychiatric drugs.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders, 4th Edition

(DSM-IV), published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA), is

psychiatry's billing bible of " disorders " from which psychiatric screening,

diagnoses and their treatment are derived. The current edition lists 374

psychiatric conditions that have been identified as mental disorders.

Yet, the disorders contained in the DSM-IV are arrived at by consensus, not by

scientific criteria. There are no blood tests, brain scans, X-Rays, MRIs or

" chemical imbalance " tests that can scientifically validate any mental

" disorder " as a disease or illness. Canadian psychologist Tana Dineen reports,

" Unlike medical diagnoses that convey a probable cause, appropriate treatment

and likely prognosis, the disorders listed in DSM-IV are terms arrived at

through peer consensus " - literally, a vote by APA committee members.

Re: Serizone?

> Terry,

>

> I did not conduct a valid and reliable research on how many people have

> mental illness. I simply threw out 98 percent as a number based on my

> mental calculations of how many people have confessed having some form of

mental

> health issues once they found out I was a therapist. Am I off a bit?

> Maybe....this is not being published in a medical journal so I didn't think

that my

> estimation was so crucial to be exact.

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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Nefazodone HCl Oral Tablet 100 mg

GENERIC NAME

NEFAZODONE - ORAL

(neh-FAZZ-oh-doan)

COMMON BRAND NAME(S)

Serzone

WARNING

Nefazodone rarely may cause serious (potentially fatal) liver

disease. Seek immediate medical attention if you develop: dark

urine, extreme fatigue, persistent loss of appetite, stomach pain,

yellowing eyes/skin. Tell your doctor or pharmacist if you have a

history of liver problems or abnormal liver function tests (LFTs)

before taking this medicine. Your doctor may perform laboratory

tests (e.g., liver function) to monitor your progress. If your

doctor stops your nefazodone treatment because of liver

problems/abnormal liver tests, you should not take this drug again.

Consult your doctor or pharmacist for more details

.......................

I believe this is an SSRI and if it is and can cause liver damage

the end result will not be good for anyone. I always have to ask why

the patient was prescribed the " medication " and were they better off

then than they are now? Violence is a very real threat even if he

has been on the drug for 14 years.

Charlie

>

> Thank you for the information. This makes me very concerned for

my patient

> as he has been on this medication for 14 years.

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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Nefazodone HCl Oral Tablet 100 mg

GENERIC NAME

NEFAZODONE - ORAL

(neh-FAZZ-oh-doan)

COMMON BRAND NAME(S)

Serzone

WARNING

Nefazodone rarely may cause serious (potentially fatal) liver

disease. Seek immediate medical attention if you develop: dark

urine, extreme fatigue, persistent loss of appetite, stomach pain,

yellowing eyes/skin. Tell your doctor or pharmacist if you have a

history of liver problems or abnormal liver function tests (LFTs)

before taking this medicine. Your doctor may perform laboratory

tests (e.g., liver function) to monitor your progress. If your

doctor stops your nefazodone treatment because of liver

problems/abnormal liver tests, you should not take this drug again.

Consult your doctor or pharmacist for more details

.......................

I believe this is an SSRI and if it is and can cause liver damage

the end result will not be good for anyone. I always have to ask why

the patient was prescribed the " medication " and were they better off

then than they are now? Violence is a very real threat even if he

has been on the drug for 14 years.

Charlie

>

> Thank you for the information. This makes me very concerned for

my patient

> as he has been on this medication for 14 years.

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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