Re: please advise Robin

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

We communicate by phone, when he is allowed to call or by stamp on the

envelope.

He took Prozac at up to 20 mg for 2 years, then Prozac (20 mg) and Depakote

(?mg) for another year. After he stopped, he experienced what he thought

would be short term withdrawal symptoms - the usual zaps etc. But, now over

a year and one half later, he still experiences what you have seen on the

logs.

Sincerely,

Suzy

>From: " Creel " <ccreel@...>

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>Subject: Re: Re: please advise Robin

>Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:49:09 -0400

>

>Dear Suzy,

>

>

> You said:

>

>

><<Wouldn't a homeopathic remedy be good for too?>>

>

>

> Probably. It's not always easy to find the proper one at a distance.

>It is even less easy to administer it to someone in 's position.

>

>

> Does communicate with you via USPS or email?

>

> If you want to give me an overview, I'll come back to you with

>some questions.

>

>Regards,

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Suzy,

Thanks for the info. I will need more. I need to know more about

than just the symptoms he's having. I'll try to give you some idea

of what I mean.

When posted what Robin wrote, not only did I get to see the

description of what is happening and how it feels, I got to see it in her

words. She wrote it as a letter. This let me see Robin as a whole

person, not just her symptoms. She spoke of the impact on her mother.

She spoke also of things she's tried. Whether it is my intuition or not, I

got

a really good feel for Robin the person, by the time I heard from her the

second time. This figures greatly in choosing a homeopathic remedy.

Here's an example. Although it's an in-person case, you'll get the gist

of it.

An elderly woman consulted me for an initial visit, and consumed the

entire two-hour interview talking about seemingly everyone, except

herself. She told me why her husband should see me, and her daughter,

and what was wrong with conventional medicine. She went on and on

for two hours, without room for any redirection from me. The few times

I did manage a word in edgewise, she artfully slid off questions about

herself onto other topics. All through this she was tugging at a

stretched-out mock turtleneck sweater she was wearing. I didn't even

have a presenting complaint at the end of the interview. As I sat

afterwards,

feeling sorry for myself for having nothing to prescribe upon, and

alternately

dumping on myself for having taken a poor case, and upset with the

obstacles to obtaining a clear case - I suddenly realized that in fact I

had a great case staring me in the face: her loquacity; desire to hide

and inability to tolerate tight clothing about the neck were all symptoms

of her physical illness. I mailed her a dose of Lachesis, and saw her in

followup 4 weeks later, when she informed me that she was " 100% better " .

She sat silently waiting for my response.

I asked her to call me if it ever came back, and asked her to please

not tell me why she had consulted me in the first place. My secretary

periodically checked in on her by phone and two years later, when my

curiosity finally exceeded my sense of mystery and intrigue, I asked her

to send me her medical records. She had had polymyalgia rheumatica, an

autoimmune inflammatory polyarteritis; remaining now asymptomatic,

with lab tests returned to normal, and off all conventional meds since her

initial visit to me. Had I obtained a " good " medical history, structuring

it in order to obtain full symptom descriptions, modalities, sensations,

etc.

I might still have found the simillimum for her case. However, by allowing

her to weave her own story, the remedy picture was strikingly clear,

even without - and perhaps even unobscured by - the kind of

information I thought I needed.

Much of the story of the case is told between the words of the delivered

history. Some patients will rattle out a rambling two-hour narrative, as

the one above. Others will deliver a carefully organized chronology of

events with accurate dates and measurements. Some will name their

complaint briefly, ask what homeopathy does for it, and wait for a reply.

It is important to reflect not only on " what are they telling me " , but also

" how are they telling me? " and " why are they telling me this, like that? "

In addition to content, observations of context, delivery, and affect are

quite helpful.

This is more thorough than things were with Robin, but I was able to

pick up a sense of Robin. With some people, it takes going deeper.

If you could have write to me, I'd be glad to work on this with him.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Dear Suzy,

Thanks for the info. I will need more. I need to know more about

than just the symptoms he's having. I'll try to give you some idea

of what I mean.

When posted what Robin wrote, not only did I get to see the

description of what is happening and how it feels, I got to see it in her

words. She wrote it as a letter. This let me see Robin as a whole

person, not just her symptoms. She spoke of the impact on her mother.

She spoke also of things she's tried. Whether it is my intuition or not, I

got

a really good feel for Robin the person, by the time I heard from her the

second time. This figures greatly in choosing a homeopathic remedy.

Here's an example. Although it's an in-person case, you'll get the gist

of it.

An elderly woman consulted me for an initial visit, and consumed the

entire two-hour interview talking about seemingly everyone, except

herself. She told me why her husband should see me, and her daughter,

and what was wrong with conventional medicine. She went on and on

for two hours, without room for any redirection from me. The few times

I did manage a word in edgewise, she artfully slid off questions about

herself onto other topics. All through this she was tugging at a

stretched-out mock turtleneck sweater she was wearing. I didn't even

have a presenting complaint at the end of the interview. As I sat

afterwards,

feeling sorry for myself for having nothing to prescribe upon, and

alternately

dumping on myself for having taken a poor case, and upset with the

obstacles to obtaining a clear case - I suddenly realized that in fact I

had a great case staring me in the face: her loquacity; desire to hide

and inability to tolerate tight clothing about the neck were all symptoms

of her physical illness. I mailed her a dose of Lachesis, and saw her in

followup 4 weeks later, when she informed me that she was " 100% better " .

She sat silently waiting for my response.

I asked her to call me if it ever came back, and asked her to please

not tell me why she had consulted me in the first place. My secretary

periodically checked in on her by phone and two years later, when my

curiosity finally exceeded my sense of mystery and intrigue, I asked her

to send me her medical records. She had had polymyalgia rheumatica, an

autoimmune inflammatory polyarteritis; remaining now asymptomatic,

with lab tests returned to normal, and off all conventional meds since her

initial visit to me. Had I obtained a " good " medical history, structuring

it in order to obtain full symptom descriptions, modalities, sensations,

etc.

I might still have found the simillimum for her case. However, by allowing

her to weave her own story, the remedy picture was strikingly clear,

even without - and perhaps even unobscured by - the kind of

information I thought I needed.

Much of the story of the case is told between the words of the delivered

history. Some patients will rattle out a rambling two-hour narrative, as

the one above. Others will deliver a carefully organized chronology of

events with accurate dates and measurements. Some will name their

complaint briefly, ask what homeopathy does for it, and wait for a reply.

It is important to reflect not only on " what are they telling me " , but also

" how are they telling me? " and " why are they telling me this, like that? "

In addition to content, observations of context, delivery, and affect are

quite helpful.

This is more thorough than things were with Robin, but I was able to

pick up a sense of Robin. With some people, it takes going deeper.

If you could have write to me, I'd be glad to work on this with him.

Regards,