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Hi a,

Whoa! My what a scare it must of been. Ouch! Hope is doing

well? May he do good on Monday for the second post op's visit. Well,

hope your dad and the dog have recovered from this experience of

's ordeal. Many involved, but thats part of our challenges with

our kids NT or not when unusual things happen. Would a lesson be

learned from it? No telling, but luck. Take care.

Irma,14,DS/ASD

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Oh boy a, I am sorry about too. How is he doing? I

can't speak for , but Maddie absolutely has no clue about

consequences. If she stuck her hand on the stove and burned it

(luckily, we watch her so well, it hasn't happened...just an example),

she'd do it again the next day. Our dog snapped at her once years

ago (Maddie was probably only 2) and I beat him and put him in the

basement. I felt bad, and the other kids were very upset with me,

but I explained to them that Muggsie is dispensible, Maddie is not.

If we want him to live with us, he has to understand that no matter

what he can't snap or bite her. Heck, he won't even growl lowly

after that. He does understand consequences and has never done it

again. Naturally, we do our best to make sure Maddie doesn't hurt

him and in the last couple years, they have actually become best buds

(well JEEZ, she throws him all her food...LOL)

I hope is doing ok a; dog bites are scary.

{{{{hugs}}}}

Donna

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> Well,

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> hope your dad and the dog have recovered from this experience of

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> 's ordeal. Many involved, but thats part of our challenges

> with

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> our kids NT or not when unusual things happen. Would a lesson be

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> learned from it? No telling, but luck. Take care.

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> Irma,14,DS/ASD

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Oh boy a, I am sorry about too. How is he doing? I

can't speak for , but Maddie absolutely has no clue about

consequences. If she stuck her hand on the stove and burned it

(luckily, we watch her so well, it hasn't happened...just an example),

she'd do it again the next day. Our dog snapped at her once years

ago (Maddie was probably only 2) and I beat him and put him in the

basement. I felt bad, and the other kids were very upset with me,

but I explained to them that Muggsie is dispensible, Maddie is not.

If we want him to live with us, he has to understand that no matter

what he can't snap or bite her. Heck, he won't even growl lowly

after that. He does understand consequences and has never done it

again. Naturally, we do our best to make sure Maddie doesn't hurt

him and in the last couple years, they have actually become best buds

(well JEEZ, she throws him all her food...LOL)

I hope is doing ok a; dog bites are scary.

{{{{hugs}}}}

Donna

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> Hi a,

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> Whoa! My what a scare it must of been. Ouch! Hope is doing

>

> well? May he do good on Monday for the second post op's visit.

> Well,

>

> hope your dad and the dog have recovered from this experience of

>

> 's ordeal. Many involved, but thats part of our challenges

> with

>

> our kids NT or not when unusual things happen. Would a lesson be

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> learned from it? No telling, but luck. Take care.

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> Irma,14,DS/ASD

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well the doc said nathan is doing great!!! the stitches will continue to

dissolve and then they areas will become pink marks and eventually tiny tiny

white marks barely noticable. And his nose is great too, he doesnt see any

further problems, is seeing him again next week to see if needs to remove

anymore dried drainage in nose, he had quite a bit but he did great while

the doc " picked his nose " lol, with some nose tool. My dad still feels bad

and his dog has never even so much as growl at anyone, its a huge fat black

lab, around 6years old. I know what you mean, we make sure our viszlas NEVER

so much as grwol at us or the kids either, they get disciplined immediately

and sent to their kennels if they ever even think about it, our 2yr old

never has but the puppy, almost a year old has growled a couole times when

nathan plops on him, so bot him and get in trouble. shawna.

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> Oh boy a, I am sorry about too. How is he doing? I

> can't speak for , but Maddie absolutely has no clue about

> consequences. If she stuck her hand on the stove and burned it

> (luckily, we watch her so well, it hasn't happened...just an example),

> she'd do it again the next day. Our dog snapped at her once years

> ago (Maddie was probably only 2) and I beat him and put him in the

> basement. I felt bad, and the other kids were very upset with me,

> but I explained to them that Muggsie is dispensible, Maddie is not.

> If we want him to live with us, he has to understand that no matter

> what he can't snap or bite her. Heck, he won't even growl lowly

> after that. He does understand consequences and has never done it

> again. Naturally, we do our best to make sure Maddie doesn't hurt

> him and in the last couple years, they have actually become best buds

> (well JEEZ, she throws him all her food...LOL)

> I hope is doing ok a; dog bites are scary.

> {{{{hugs}}}}

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> > Whoa! My what a scare it must of been. Ouch! Hope is doing

> >

> > well? May he do good on Monday for the second post op's visit.

> > Well,

> >

> > hope your dad and the dog have recovered from this experience of

> >

> > 's ordeal. Many involved, but thats part of our challenges

> > with

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  • 3 years later...

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I am sorry to hear about that ...

I hope that your pain eases..

I have not had to go to the ER for a while now which is good..

Sending you healing

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Well I just got home from the hospital. Spent the whole night in the ER. I ended up in a severe fibro flare that even walking almost made me pass out. ER was backed up so ended up there all night waiting to be seen. At least the ER doc on actually believed fibro is a real condition. I've had some ER docs who looked at me like i was crazy. She gave me a shot of toradol and a script for hydrocodone to last me till i can see my rheumatologist. Guess the nortyptyline isn't working.

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Praise the Lord I am glad he is ok!

God Bless!

Trish

bluheron <bluheron@...> wrote:

Thank you, my 13 yr old is fine thank goodness, we thought it was

testicular

tortion which is a serious problem, which he did have before, but turned out

just a groin pull.

Western NY

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month-old

In a message dated 5/20/2007 2:57:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

bluheron@... writes:

I was just at the ER last night with my 13 year old

I hope everything went ok w/your 13 year old.

I'm torn as to what to do if/when the situation arises the (14months)

needs to go to the ER. I can see both sides of this arguement. One thing is

important though, my hubby and I need to decide before we get to the

hospital.

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Hi Jane, I am so glad you were evaluated at the ER, & you found out that

there wasn't anything seriously wrong. It is always better to be on the safe

side, as lung, & heart problems can intensify quickly. June

In a message dated 9/23/2009 10:56:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

borlan9191962@... writes:

I just got back from the ER. They ran tests on liver & kidney functions-

checked blood, heart & lungs-everything is fine (or as fine as it ever

was). The swelling seems to be from not getting enough bed time with my feet

up. I just have to find out how to get comfortable enough to stay in bed

more. If I could get my spine & joints fixed I would be in good shape. I guess

I just need to be happy with what I have. I have been so frightened that

my liver had worsened. Thanks everyone for your advice and caring.

Hurting but Here!

Jane H.

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Hi Jane, I am so glad you were evaluated at the ER, & you found out that

there wasn't anything seriously wrong. It is always better to be on the safe

side, as lung, & heart problems can intensify quickly. June

In a message dated 9/23/2009 10:56:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

borlan9191962@... writes:

I just got back from the ER. They ran tests on liver & kidney functions-

checked blood, heart & lungs-everything is fine (or as fine as it ever

was). The swelling seems to be from not getting enough bed time with my feet

up. I just have to find out how to get comfortable enough to stay in bed

more. If I could get my spine & joints fixed I would be in good shape. I guess

I just need to be happy with what I have. I have been so frightened that

my liver had worsened. Thanks everyone for your advice and caring.

Hurting but Here!

Jane H.

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Hi Jane, I am so glad you were evaluated at the ER, & you found out that

there wasn't anything seriously wrong. It is always better to be on the safe

side, as lung, & heart problems can intensify quickly. June

In a message dated 9/23/2009 10:56:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

borlan9191962@... writes:

I just got back from the ER. They ran tests on liver & kidney functions-

checked blood, heart & lungs-everything is fine (or as fine as it ever

was). The swelling seems to be from not getting enough bed time with my feet

up. I just have to find out how to get comfortable enough to stay in bed

more. If I could get my spine & joints fixed I would be in good shape. I guess

I just need to be happy with what I have. I have been so frightened that

my liver had worsened. Thanks everyone for your advice and caring.

Hurting but Here!

Jane H.

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Hi Jane, I am so glad you were evaluated at the ER, & you found out that

there wasn't anything seriously wrong. It is always better to be on the safe

side, as lung, & heart problems can intensify quickly. June

In a message dated 9/23/2009 10:56:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

borlan9191962@... writes:

I just got back from the ER. They ran tests on liver & kidney functions-

checked blood, heart & lungs-everything is fine (or as fine as it ever

was). The swelling seems to be from not getting enough bed time with my feet

up. I just have to find out how to get comfortable enough to stay in bed

more. If I could get my spine & joints fixed I would be in good shape. I guess

I just need to be happy with what I have. I have been so frightened that

my liver had worsened. Thanks everyone for your advice and caring.

Hurting but Here!

Jane H.

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Hi, there! New to the group and glad I found this place. I had no idea you'd

all be talking about the things that have become close to my heart in just last

few weeks! Thanks for all the info.

I agree that that's a good idea what your mom said re saying their vaccines were

current. I'd never have thought of that. The line that I'd been given to use

and actually have never had to (they don't force vaccines on us, SO FAR, in

Canada) is one I'd pull out if it became an issue: signing a waiver.

If _everyone_ is taking a vaccine, then everyone is covered ... right? So our

not taking the vaccine shouldn't affect anyone else (using their line of

reasoning, of course). If they want to cover their a$$es, one can sign a waiver

absolving anyone of any liability in case I did get sick. That way, they

wouldn't be afraid that _I'd_ sue anyone for not taking the vaccine.

It shouldn't matter to _anyone_ if we take a vaccine or not since everyone who

does is supposedly safe.

Either way should work. Saying that the vaccines are up-to-date should do the

trick. But in case they check and dig, and they soon will know everything about

us the way governments and corporations are going, then we can pull out the

" okay, let me sign a waiver for you so I can get out of here and on to more

important things in life " !

Cheers,

Hypatia :oD

--- ER visit

From: rachael pederson <mamapederson@...>

no-forced-vaccination

Date: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:48

>

>

> I had my 18 month old in the ER last week for an injured arm. He's ok. We just

need the doc to put it back in place. I haven't had my kids in to see any dr.

for quite a while.

> The inevidable vaccine question came up and I said that we don't do vaccines.

The PA didn't say too much about the regular vaccines but went on and on about

the whooping cough. I just sat there and let her talk.

> I was wondering peoples thoughts on the whooping cough and the vaccine. " They "

say whooping cough is coming back hard.

> How do I deal with the drs. who hassle me about vaccines? I have been avoiding

going to doctors, but in this case, I had too. My mom says I should have said we

were current on vaccines. As far as I am concerned, we are as current as we are

going to get.

> Pederson

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Hi, there! New to the group and glad I found this place. I had no idea you'd

all be talking about the things that have become close to my heart in just last

few weeks! Thanks for all the info.

I agree that that's a good idea what your mom said re saying their vaccines were

current. I'd never have thought of that. The line that I'd been given to use

and actually have never had to (they don't force vaccines on us, SO FAR, in

Canada) is one I'd pull out if it became an issue: signing a waiver.

If _everyone_ is taking a vaccine, then everyone is covered ... right? So our

not taking the vaccine shouldn't affect anyone else (using their line of

reasoning, of course). If they want to cover their a$$es, one can sign a waiver

absolving anyone of any liability in case I did get sick. That way, they

wouldn't be afraid that _I'd_ sue anyone for not taking the vaccine.

It shouldn't matter to _anyone_ if we take a vaccine or not since everyone who

does is supposedly safe.

Either way should work. Saying that the vaccines are up-to-date should do the

trick. But in case they check and dig, and they soon will know everything about

us the way governments and corporations are going, then we can pull out the

" okay, let me sign a waiver for you so I can get out of here and on to more

important things in life " !

Cheers,

Hypatia :oD

--- ER visit

From: rachael pederson <mamapederson@...>

no-forced-vaccination

Date: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:48

>

>

> I had my 18 month old in the ER last week for an injured arm. He's ok. We just

need the doc to put it back in place. I haven't had my kids in to see any dr.

for quite a while.

> The inevidable vaccine question came up and I said that we don't do vaccines.

The PA didn't say too much about the regular vaccines but went on and on about

the whooping cough. I just sat there and let her talk.

> I was wondering peoples thoughts on the whooping cough and the vaccine. " They "

say whooping cough is coming back hard.

> How do I deal with the drs. who hassle me about vaccines? I have been avoiding

going to doctors, but in this case, I had too. My mom says I should have said we

were current on vaccines. As far as I am concerned, we are as current as we are

going to get.

> Pederson

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Hi,I am not new to this group. I had the S--- scared out of me last flu season and after my morning panic attack I went out to put flyers on cars to warn of the dangers. NOW, I am a new grandmother and they are vaccinating. It breaks my heart and if I keep it up I will be shunned from seeing her. It has taken much to get back in, so to speak, because I am the worrier and fear monger. I just pray a lot and do Reiki therapy. So far she is still normal but has a hard knot in her leg from the last vaccine. How does one get to those who don't believe in the dangers of vaccines if they refuse to read my many emails and links on the subject? May the sounds of the Universe bestow upon you GREAT health, happiness, prosperity, peace and

LOVE.From: W.M. <mitchellwma1@...>Subject: ER visitno-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 5:03 AMHi, there! New to the group and glad I found this place. I had no idea you'd all be talking about the things that have become close to my heart in just last few weeks! Thanks for all the info.I agree that that's a good idea what your mom said re saying their vaccines were current. I'd never have thought of that. The line that I'd been given to use and actually have never had to (they don't force vaccines on us, SO FAR, in Canada) is one I'd pull out if it became an issue: signing a

waiver.If _everyone_ is taking a vaccine, then everyone is covered ... right? So our not taking the vaccine shouldn't affect anyone else (using their line of reasoning, of course). If they want to cover their a$$es, one can sign a waiver absolving anyone of any liability in case I did get sick. That way, they wouldn't be afraid that _I'd_ sue anyone for not taking the vaccine.It shouldn't matter to _anyone_ if we take a vaccine or not since everyone who does is supposedly safe.Either way should work. Saying that the vaccines are up-to-date should do the trick. But in case they check and dig, and they soon will know everything about us the way governments and corporations are going, then we can pull out the "okay, let me sign a waiver for you so I can get out of here and on to more important things in life"!Cheers,Hypatia :oD--- ER visitFrom: rachael pederson <mamapederson@...>no-forced-vaccination Date: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:48>>> I had my 18 month old in the ER last week for an injured arm. He's ok. We just need the doc to put it back in place. I haven't had my kids in to see any dr. for quite a while.> The inevidable vaccine question came up and I said that we don't do vaccines. The PA didn't say too much about the regular vaccines but went on and on about the whooping cough. I just sat there and let her talk.> I was wondering peoples thoughts on the whooping cough and the vaccine. "They" say whooping cough is coming back

hard.> How do I deal with the drs. who hassle me about vaccines? I have been avoiding going to doctors, but in this case, I had too. My mom says I should have said we were current on vaccines. As far as I am concerned, we are as current as we are going to get.> Pederson[snip]------------------------------------

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Hi,I am not new to this group. I had the S--- scared out of me last flu season and after my morning panic attack I went out to put flyers on cars to warn of the dangers. NOW, I am a new grandmother and they are vaccinating. It breaks my heart and if I keep it up I will be shunned from seeing her. It has taken much to get back in, so to speak, because I am the worrier and fear monger. I just pray a lot and do Reiki therapy. So far she is still normal but has a hard knot in her leg from the last vaccine. How does one get to those who don't believe in the dangers of vaccines if they refuse to read my many emails and links on the subject? May the sounds of the Universe bestow upon you GREAT health, happiness, prosperity, peace and

LOVE.From: W.M. <mitchellwma1@...>Subject: ER visitno-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 5:03 AMHi, there! New to the group and glad I found this place. I had no idea you'd all be talking about the things that have become close to my heart in just last few weeks! Thanks for all the info.I agree that that's a good idea what your mom said re saying their vaccines were current. I'd never have thought of that. The line that I'd been given to use and actually have never had to (they don't force vaccines on us, SO FAR, in Canada) is one I'd pull out if it became an issue: signing a

waiver.If _everyone_ is taking a vaccine, then everyone is covered ... right? So our not taking the vaccine shouldn't affect anyone else (using their line of reasoning, of course). If they want to cover their a$$es, one can sign a waiver absolving anyone of any liability in case I did get sick. That way, they wouldn't be afraid that _I'd_ sue anyone for not taking the vaccine.It shouldn't matter to _anyone_ if we take a vaccine or not since everyone who does is supposedly safe.Either way should work. Saying that the vaccines are up-to-date should do the trick. But in case they check and dig, and they soon will know everything about us the way governments and corporations are going, then we can pull out the "okay, let me sign a waiver for you so I can get out of here and on to more important things in life"!Cheers,Hypatia :oD--- ER visitFrom: rachael pederson <mamapederson@...>no-forced-vaccination Date: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:48>>> I had my 18 month old in the ER last week for an injured arm. He's ok. We just need the doc to put it back in place. I haven't had my kids in to see any dr. for quite a while.> The inevidable vaccine question came up and I said that we don't do vaccines. The PA didn't say too much about the regular vaccines but went on and on about the whooping cough. I just sat there and let her talk.> I was wondering peoples thoughts on the whooping cough and the vaccine. "They" say whooping cough is coming back

hard.> How do I deal with the drs. who hassle me about vaccines? I have been avoiding going to doctors, but in this case, I had too. My mom says I should have said we were current on vaccines. As far as I am concerned, we are as current as we are going to get.> Pederson[snip]------------------------------------

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