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Yes, so that you don't add pressure to the middle ear through the

Eustachian tube while sneezing or blowing your nose. Yes, to prevent

introduction of bacteria from the throat into the middle ear, and into

the cochlear.

Someone once told me that a newly implanted person blew her nose so

hard that her cochlear got infected, and it took her a year to get rid

of the cochlear infection. Egads.. one more thing to obsess over.

Perhaps taking a decongestant for the duration will do wonders. Ask

your ENT, my advice.

Later,

Chris

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:00:10 -0600, Kozlik <lisak70@...> wrote:

>

> Pam,

>

> Thanks for your " get well " wishes! <smile> Is it really true that you can't

> blow your nose for a month following surgery? Is this to prevent your

> stitches from opening?

>

>

> Surgery date: 12/22/04 (15 days and counting!)

> Activation date: 1/18/05

>

>

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I know that every time I even thought of blowing my nose, my inner ear

plugged up with a bubble I could immediately feel.. so it wasn't hard to

remember. But using kleenex to sop it all up rather than blowing the nose is

a new art form!

I don't have any trouble sneezing with my mouth open though but I was

thinking of some people I know who always try to stifle the sneeze and give

a little tiny closed mouth *achoooooo*! Now that would be a problem.

I hope your cold is getting better . Maybe it will give you enough

immunity so that you don't get another one right after surgery.

They gave me a strong antibiotic to take for a week after surgery to prevent

certain kinds of hospital/surgery induced infections so I figure that

antibiotic probably wiped out some of my immunities to other lesser things.

Pam

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> Pam,

>

> Thanks for your " get well " wishes! <smile> Is it really true that you

> can't

> blow your nose for a month following surgery? Is this to prevent your

> stitches from opening?

>

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I agree with the ENT when they say not to blow nose or even sneeze hard after

any ear surgery. It is to prevent any infection from entering the middle ear

through the eustachian tube. However, it is very difficult not to stiffle a

sneeze as that also could put pressure inside the middle ear. The best thing to

do as adviced by my ENT is to open your mouth wide when sneezing. Which means

the " aaachoooooo " is gonna be very very loud. Seems funny!! When you sneeze this

way, your eustachain tube is closed and does not allow anything to go in.

I have had to do this for one month and continue to do so after my surgeries to

clear infections from both the ears. Ear infections are pretty " notorious " and

very very stubborn. They don't clear like any other infections, hence it is

better to prevent than to suffer.

Ravi

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Ravi,

This is the first time I've ever heard about these limitations, so I'm

really glad this was discussed on the list. I'll have to remind myself to

sneeze open-mouthed so that I don't cause any problems. The last thing I

want to deal with after surgery is an ear infection -- especially if it can

be prevented. :) Speaking of ear infections, it looks as if my cold hasn't

reached my ears. Better yet, I received a " clean bill of health " today and

am ready to proceed with surgery.

Surgery date: 12/22/04 (15 days and counting!)

Activation date: 1/18/05

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<<I don't have any trouble sneezing with my mouth open though but I was

thinking of some people I know who always try to stifle the sneeze and give

a little tiny closed mouth *achoooooo*! Now that would be a problem.

I hope your cold is getting better . Maybe it will give you enough

immunity so that you don't get another one right after surgery.>>

Awww, thanks Pam! I'm feeling much better today and passed my pre-op with a

clean bill of health!

You're right -- being sick right now is better than later so I don't have to

deal with the problem of trying to recover from surgery and a cold at the

same time.

Unfortunately, I happen to be one of those people who try to stifle a

sneeze, so it looks like I'll have to break that habit real quick. <grin>

Surgery date: 12/22/04 (15 days and counting!)

Activation date: 1/18/05

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I forgot to add another important information with regards to blowing nose.

After surgery my ENT says that one should not blow the nose by holding our

fingers to the nose or whatever way. We should inhale in deeply, so that the

phlegm is inhaled into the throat and then expelled through the mouth. Thats the

procedure recommended by my ENT.

Good that you are on track for CI surgery, it is just round the corner and good

luck.

Ravi

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, are you supposed to sneeze with an open mouth) I hadn't heard that. Glad

your getting better. though and I wonder if they'll give you anything to help

keep you from sneezing for a while.

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><<I don't have any trouble sneezing with my mouth open though but I was

>thinking of some people I know who always try to stifle the sneeze and give

>a little tiny closed mouth *achoooooo*! Now that would be a problem.

>I hope your cold is getting better . Maybe it will give you enough

>immunity so that you don't get another one right after surgery.

>Awww, thanks Pam! I'm feeling much better today and passed my pre-op with a

>clean bill of health!

>You're right -- being sick right now is better than later so I don't have to

>deal with the problem of trying to recover from surgery and a cold at the

>same time.

>Unfortunately, I happen to be one of those people who try to stifle a

>sneeze, so it looks like I'll have to break that habit real quick. <grin

>

>Surgery date: 12/22/04 (15 days and counting!)

>Activation date: 1/18/05

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Tina,

I didn't know about having to sneeze open-mouthed either. (I've learned so

many things from this list!) The only medication I was given to take

following surgery was Vicodin and an antibiotic I can't remember the name of

right now.

I had to take Vicodin earlier this year for shoulder pain and I remember the

euphoric feeling it gave me. Strange. Very strange. I wasn't quite bouncing

off the walls, but I was close. LOL!

Surgery date: 12/22/04 (13 days and counting!)

Activation date: 1/18/05

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Knows how to help with the sneezing. I will stand by and tickle

her when she feels a sneeze coming on. Hey, I am trying to help. Grinning.

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deal about your birthday .... around age 11.

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You can sneeze but just do it with open mouth.. let the air out instead of

pushing it back in... Like the nose blowing it is only for a month.

Pam S. (in Alaska)

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>

> , are you supposed to sneeze with an open mouth) I hadn't heard that.

> Glad your getting better. though and I wonder if they'll give you

> anything to help keep you from sneezing for a while.

>

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Thanks, Sara. So can anything be done to help people who seem to have

symptoms of " schizophrenia " .....hearing voices....seeing people who don't

exist? I couldn't imagine living like that.

Gab

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Thanks, Sara. So can anything be done to help people who seem to have

symptoms of " schizophrenia " .....hearing voices....seeing people who don't

exist? I couldn't imagine living like that.

Gab

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Thanks, Sara. So can anything be done to help people who seem to have

symptoms of " schizophrenia " .....hearing voices....seeing people who don't

exist? I couldn't imagine living like that.

Gab

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Thanks, Sara. So can anything be done to help people who seem to have

symptoms of " schizophrenia " .....hearing voices....seeing people who don't

exist? I couldn't imagine living like that.

Gab

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Schizophrenia is most likely a neurological condition. It is

definitely a physiological condition. However, the behavior we call

schizophrenia may end up having a multiple causes and thus be multiple

disorders. For instance, partial seizure status epilepticus is often

misdiagnosed as schizophrenia, the patient given antipsychotic drugs

which increase the seizure activity and making the patient seem even

more psychotic.

>

> Hi Pam,

>

> Okay, I admit that I'm confused, but in order for me to fully

understand

> things, I do need to ask questions so hope you don't mind. For the

most

> part, I do agree that a lot of the mental illness diagnosis is

unjustified.

> However, I have personally witness something and to this date don't

know what to

> make of this situation. Maybe you can help me out.

>

> A few years ago, there was a woman who worked at our local

CVS. She

> worked the floor and would stock products on the shelves. I would

see her from

> time to time and say hi to her when I went to CVS to shop. One day,

I stopped

> seeing her at work and just thought maybe she quit and got another

job.

> Well, a few weeks later, my friend and I went to Ram's Horn for

dinner and this

> woman, who used to work at CVS, came into the restaurant alone and

sat in the

> booth next to us. As soon a she sat down, she started a

conversation......with

> no one......she sat there and talked to an imaginary person the

entire time

> she was there. She even ordered food for this make believe person

and laughed

> with her and told her jokes and answered questions that this

invisible person

> supposidly asked her. I asked the waitress what was going on with

this woman.

> She told me that she lost her insurance and could no longer afford

her

> medication for schizophrenia. She said this woman frequently goes

to Ram's Horn and

> the staff knows about her condition and how she orders food for this

person

> she believes is there with her and carries on a converstion with

this person.

> She also lost her job as a result of her condition. Now, here's my

question

> for you. Does schizophrenia exist? If not, then what the heck was

going on

> with this person? Why was she talking to an imaginary person? Why

did she

> appear normal and could hold a job while she was on medication for

schizophrenia,

> but soon a she went off medication, she started seeing imaginary

people and

> could not function in society? Is schizophreina a medical

condition? I'm a

> bit lost here because I witnessed this with my own eyes and

something was going

> on with this woman. She really believed she was talking to a person

that " she

> saw " but no one else saw. Also, did you see the movie " A Beautiful

Mind " ? I

> heard that movie was based on a true story. Okay, help me

understand this

> please. Oh, I also had a patient during my practicum who came into

my office

> and started to have a conversation with the coat rack. Are all

these people

> faking this? if they are, then they should go to Hollywood because

they are darn

> good actors.

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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Schizophrenia is most likely a neurological condition. It is

definitely a physiological condition. However, the behavior we call

schizophrenia may end up having a multiple causes and thus be multiple

disorders. For instance, partial seizure status epilepticus is often

misdiagnosed as schizophrenia, the patient given antipsychotic drugs

which increase the seizure activity and making the patient seem even

more psychotic.

>

> Hi Pam,

>

> Okay, I admit that I'm confused, but in order for me to fully

understand

> things, I do need to ask questions so hope you don't mind. For the

most

> part, I do agree that a lot of the mental illness diagnosis is

unjustified.

> However, I have personally witness something and to this date don't

know what to

> make of this situation. Maybe you can help me out.

>

> A few years ago, there was a woman who worked at our local

CVS. She

> worked the floor and would stock products on the shelves. I would

see her from

> time to time and say hi to her when I went to CVS to shop. One day,

I stopped

> seeing her at work and just thought maybe she quit and got another

job.

> Well, a few weeks later, my friend and I went to Ram's Horn for

dinner and this

> woman, who used to work at CVS, came into the restaurant alone and

sat in the

> booth next to us. As soon a she sat down, she started a

conversation......with

> no one......she sat there and talked to an imaginary person the

entire time

> she was there. She even ordered food for this make believe person

and laughed

> with her and told her jokes and answered questions that this

invisible person

> supposidly asked her. I asked the waitress what was going on with

this woman.

> She told me that she lost her insurance and could no longer afford

her

> medication for schizophrenia. She said this woman frequently goes

to Ram's Horn and

> the staff knows about her condition and how she orders food for this

person

> she believes is there with her and carries on a converstion with

this person.

> She also lost her job as a result of her condition. Now, here's my

question

> for you. Does schizophrenia exist? If not, then what the heck was

going on

> with this person? Why was she talking to an imaginary person? Why

did she

> appear normal and could hold a job while she was on medication for

schizophrenia,

> but soon a she went off medication, she started seeing imaginary

people and

> could not function in society? Is schizophreina a medical

condition? I'm a

> bit lost here because I witnessed this with my own eyes and

something was going

> on with this woman. She really believed she was talking to a person

that " she

> saw " but no one else saw. Also, did you see the movie " A Beautiful

Mind " ? I

> heard that movie was based on a true story. Okay, help me

understand this

> please. Oh, I also had a patient during my practicum who came into

my office

> and started to have a conversation with the coat rack. Are all

these people

> faking this? if they are, then they should go to Hollywood because

they are darn

> good actors.

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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Schizophrenia is most likely a neurological condition. It is

definitely a physiological condition. However, the behavior we call

schizophrenia may end up having a multiple causes and thus be multiple

disorders. For instance, partial seizure status epilepticus is often

misdiagnosed as schizophrenia, the patient given antipsychotic drugs

which increase the seizure activity and making the patient seem even

more psychotic.

>

> Hi Pam,

>

> Okay, I admit that I'm confused, but in order for me to fully

understand

> things, I do need to ask questions so hope you don't mind. For the

most

> part, I do agree that a lot of the mental illness diagnosis is

unjustified.

> However, I have personally witness something and to this date don't

know what to

> make of this situation. Maybe you can help me out.

>

> A few years ago, there was a woman who worked at our local

CVS. She

> worked the floor and would stock products on the shelves. I would

see her from

> time to time and say hi to her when I went to CVS to shop. One day,

I stopped

> seeing her at work and just thought maybe she quit and got another

job.

> Well, a few weeks later, my friend and I went to Ram's Horn for

dinner and this

> woman, who used to work at CVS, came into the restaurant alone and

sat in the

> booth next to us. As soon a she sat down, she started a

conversation......with

> no one......she sat there and talked to an imaginary person the

entire time

> she was there. She even ordered food for this make believe person

and laughed

> with her and told her jokes and answered questions that this

invisible person

> supposidly asked her. I asked the waitress what was going on with

this woman.

> She told me that she lost her insurance and could no longer afford

her

> medication for schizophrenia. She said this woman frequently goes

to Ram's Horn and

> the staff knows about her condition and how she orders food for this

person

> she believes is there with her and carries on a converstion with

this person.

> She also lost her job as a result of her condition. Now, here's my

question

> for you. Does schizophrenia exist? If not, then what the heck was

going on

> with this person? Why was she talking to an imaginary person? Why

did she

> appear normal and could hold a job while she was on medication for

schizophrenia,

> but soon a she went off medication, she started seeing imaginary

people and

> could not function in society? Is schizophreina a medical

condition? I'm a

> bit lost here because I witnessed this with my own eyes and

something was going

> on with this woman. She really believed she was talking to a person

that " she

> saw " but no one else saw. Also, did you see the movie " A Beautiful

Mind " ? I

> heard that movie was based on a true story. Okay, help me

understand this

> please. Oh, I also had a patient during my practicum who came into

my office

> and started to have a conversation with the coat rack. Are all

these people

> faking this? if they are, then they should go to Hollywood because

they are darn

> good actors.

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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Schizophrenia is most likely a neurological condition. It is

definitely a physiological condition. However, the behavior we call

schizophrenia may end up having a multiple causes and thus be multiple

disorders. For instance, partial seizure status epilepticus is often

misdiagnosed as schizophrenia, the patient given antipsychotic drugs

which increase the seizure activity and making the patient seem even

more psychotic.

>

> Hi Pam,

>

> Okay, I admit that I'm confused, but in order for me to fully

understand

> things, I do need to ask questions so hope you don't mind. For the

most

> part, I do agree that a lot of the mental illness diagnosis is

unjustified.

> However, I have personally witness something and to this date don't

know what to

> make of this situation. Maybe you can help me out.

>

> A few years ago, there was a woman who worked at our local

CVS. She

> worked the floor and would stock products on the shelves. I would

see her from

> time to time and say hi to her when I went to CVS to shop. One day,

I stopped

> seeing her at work and just thought maybe she quit and got another

job.

> Well, a few weeks later, my friend and I went to Ram's Horn for

dinner and this

> woman, who used to work at CVS, came into the restaurant alone and

sat in the

> booth next to us. As soon a she sat down, she started a

conversation......with

> no one......she sat there and talked to an imaginary person the

entire time

> she was there. She even ordered food for this make believe person

and laughed

> with her and told her jokes and answered questions that this

invisible person

> supposidly asked her. I asked the waitress what was going on with

this woman.

> She told me that she lost her insurance and could no longer afford

her

> medication for schizophrenia. She said this woman frequently goes

to Ram's Horn and

> the staff knows about her condition and how she orders food for this

person

> she believes is there with her and carries on a converstion with

this person.

> She also lost her job as a result of her condition. Now, here's my

question

> for you. Does schizophrenia exist? If not, then what the heck was

going on

> with this person? Why was she talking to an imaginary person? Why

did she

> appear normal and could hold a job while she was on medication for

schizophrenia,

> but soon a she went off medication, she started seeing imaginary

people and

> could not function in society? Is schizophreina a medical

condition? I'm a

> bit lost here because I witnessed this with my own eyes and

something was going

> on with this woman. She really believed she was talking to a person

that " she

> saw " but no one else saw. Also, did you see the movie " A Beautiful

Mind " ? I

> heard that movie was based on a true story. Okay, help me

understand this

> please. Oh, I also had a patient during my practicum who came into

my office

> and started to have a conversation with the coat rack. Are all

these people

> faking this? if they are, then they should go to Hollywood because

they are darn

> good actors.

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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Gab, I can answer this. As lonf as physiological disorders get

called mental illnesses, they won't be properly understood and

treated.

Are you aware that there are a few programs in the U.S. who take

people after an initial " psychotic break " and bring them back to

health without psychotropic drugs? Their success rate in almost

100%.

In other cultures that do not drag people off to hospitals, there

is a much lower incidence of repeated psychotic breaks. In some

cultures, those who " hear voices " are trained to be shamans.

Anyone can hear voices. Stress the body out enough through

emotional stress, poor diet, poor support and poor coping mechanisms

and a person can experience psychosis. Unfortunately, we call them

schizophrenic and make themn patients for life by giving them brain-

disabling drugs.

Anyone who abruptly discontinues neuroleptic drugs will be

exhibiting sx of sz.

If you really want to have an impact, learn more about nutrition

and emotional health. You'd be stunned to see what a decent diet

and some well-chosen supplemnts can do to make a person well or give

them the emotional energy to address their problems in life.

Virtually 90% of the people I deal with got to where they are

through longstanding poor dietary habits. Few people eat whole

foods today yet, these are the very things with the nutrients that

create the fuel for neurotransmitters. When you work with a person,

ask them for: their favorite foods were as a child, what was cooked

for them as a child, what their favorite foods are now, and then ask

them to keep afood and drink diary for a week.

What you'll find is very little whole food, very few fresh

vegetables, an overabundance of carbohydrates, and plenty of sugar,

caffeine, boxed, frozen, and fast foods. Learn enough to be able to

show people how foods affect their bodies, get them to agree to a

week of trying things your way (plenty of fresh vegetables, meats,

low to moderate complex carbohydrates, and a small amount of fresh

fruits low in fructose (berries). Have them stay away from all

sugar and caffeine. In a mere week you'll be working with a

different person. This goes 10x more for children.

Regards,

>

> Hi Pam,

>

> Okay, I admit that I'm confused, but in order for me to fully

understand

> things, I do need to ask questions so hope you don't mind. For

the most

> part, I do agree that a lot of the mental illness diagnosis is

unjustified.

> However, I have personally witness something and to this date

don't know what to

> make of this situation. Maybe you can help me out.

>

> A few years ago, there was a woman who worked at our local

CVS. She

> worked the floor and would stock products on the shelves. I would

see her from

> time to time and say hi to her when I went to CVS to shop. One

day, I stopped

> seeing her at work and just thought maybe she quit and got another

job.

> Well, a few weeks later, my friend and I went to Ram's Horn for

dinner and this

> woman, who used to work at CVS, came into the restaurant alone and

sat in the

> booth next to us. As soon a she sat down, she started a

conversation......with

> no one......she sat there and talked to an imaginary person the

entire time

> she was there. She even ordered food for this make believe person

and laughed

> with her and told her jokes and answered questions that this

invisible person

> supposidly asked her. I asked the waitress what was going on with

this woman.

> She told me that she lost her insurance and could no longer afford

her

> medication for schizophrenia. She said this woman frequently goes

to Ram's Horn and

> the staff knows about her condition and how she orders food for

this person

> she believes is there with her and carries on a converstion with

this person.

> She also lost her job as a result of her condition. Now, here's

my question

> for you. Does schizophrenia exist? If not, then what the heck

was going on

> with this person? Why was she talking to an imaginary person?

Why did she

> appear normal and could hold a job while she was on medication for

schizophrenia,

> but soon a she went off medication, she started seeing imaginary

people and

> could not function in society? Is schizophreina a medical

condition? I'm a

> bit lost here because I witnessed this with my own eyes and

something was going

> on with this woman. She really believed she was talking to a

person that " she

> saw " but no one else saw. Also, did you see the movie " A

Beautiful Mind " ? I

> heard that movie was based on a true story. Okay, help me

understand this

> please. Oh, I also had a patient during my practicum who came

into my office

> and started to have a conversation with the coat rack. Are all

these people

> faking this? if they are, then they should go to Hollywood

because they are darn

> good actors.

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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Gab, I can answer this. As lonf as physiological disorders get

called mental illnesses, they won't be properly understood and

treated.

Are you aware that there are a few programs in the U.S. who take

people after an initial " psychotic break " and bring them back to

health without psychotropic drugs? Their success rate in almost

100%.

In other cultures that do not drag people off to hospitals, there

is a much lower incidence of repeated psychotic breaks. In some

cultures, those who " hear voices " are trained to be shamans.

Anyone can hear voices. Stress the body out enough through

emotional stress, poor diet, poor support and poor coping mechanisms

and a person can experience psychosis. Unfortunately, we call them

schizophrenic and make themn patients for life by giving them brain-

disabling drugs.

Anyone who abruptly discontinues neuroleptic drugs will be

exhibiting sx of sz.

If you really want to have an impact, learn more about nutrition

and emotional health. You'd be stunned to see what a decent diet

and some well-chosen supplemnts can do to make a person well or give

them the emotional energy to address their problems in life.

Virtually 90% of the people I deal with got to where they are

through longstanding poor dietary habits. Few people eat whole

foods today yet, these are the very things with the nutrients that

create the fuel for neurotransmitters. When you work with a person,

ask them for: their favorite foods were as a child, what was cooked

for them as a child, what their favorite foods are now, and then ask

them to keep afood and drink diary for a week.

What you'll find is very little whole food, very few fresh

vegetables, an overabundance of carbohydrates, and plenty of sugar,

caffeine, boxed, frozen, and fast foods. Learn enough to be able to

show people how foods affect their bodies, get them to agree to a

week of trying things your way (plenty of fresh vegetables, meats,

low to moderate complex carbohydrates, and a small amount of fresh

fruits low in fructose (berries). Have them stay away from all

sugar and caffeine. In a mere week you'll be working with a

different person. This goes 10x more for children.

Regards,

>

> Hi Pam,

>

> Okay, I admit that I'm confused, but in order for me to fully

understand

> things, I do need to ask questions so hope you don't mind. For

the most

> part, I do agree that a lot of the mental illness diagnosis is

unjustified.

> However, I have personally witness something and to this date

don't know what to

> make of this situation. Maybe you can help me out.

>

> A few years ago, there was a woman who worked at our local

CVS. She

> worked the floor and would stock products on the shelves. I would

see her from

> time to time and say hi to her when I went to CVS to shop. One

day, I stopped

> seeing her at work and just thought maybe she quit and got another

job.

> Well, a few weeks later, my friend and I went to Ram's Horn for

dinner and this

> woman, who used to work at CVS, came into the restaurant alone and

sat in the

> booth next to us. As soon a she sat down, she started a

conversation......with

> no one......she sat there and talked to an imaginary person the

entire time

> she was there. She even ordered food for this make believe person

and laughed

> with her and told her jokes and answered questions that this

invisible person

> supposidly asked her. I asked the waitress what was going on with

this woman.

> She told me that she lost her insurance and could no longer afford

her

> medication for schizophrenia. She said this woman frequently goes

to Ram's Horn and

> the staff knows about her condition and how she orders food for

this person

> she believes is there with her and carries on a converstion with

this person.

> She also lost her job as a result of her condition. Now, here's

my question

> for you. Does schizophrenia exist? If not, then what the heck

was going on

> with this person? Why was she talking to an imaginary person?

Why did she

> appear normal and could hold a job while she was on medication for

schizophrenia,

> but soon a she went off medication, she started seeing imaginary

people and

> could not function in society? Is schizophreina a medical

condition? I'm a

> bit lost here because I witnessed this with my own eyes and

something was going

> on with this woman. She really believed she was talking to a

person that " she

> saw " but no one else saw. Also, did you see the movie " A

Beautiful Mind " ? I

> heard that movie was based on a true story. Okay, help me

understand this

> please. Oh, I also had a patient during my practicum who came

into my office

> and started to have a conversation with the coat rack. Are all

these people

> faking this? if they are, then they should go to Hollywood

because they are darn

> good actors.

>

> Gab

>

>

>

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My partial generalised seizures ........got me labled with schizo-

affective illness.

> >

> > Hi Pam,

> >

> > Okay, I admit that I'm confused, but in order for me to

fully

> understand

> > things, I do need to ask questions so hope you don't mind. For

the

> most

> > part, I do agree that a lot of the mental illness diagnosis is

> unjustified.

> > However, I have personally witness something and to this date

don't

> know what to

> > make of this situation. Maybe you can help me out.

> >

> > A few years ago, there was a woman who worked at our local

> CVS. She

> > worked the floor and would stock products on the shelves. I

would

> see her from

> > time to time and say hi to her when I went to CVS to shop. One

day,

> I stopped

> > seeing her at work and just thought maybe she quit and got

another

> job.

> > Well, a few weeks later, my friend and I went to Ram's Horn for

> dinner and this

> > woman, who used to work at CVS, came into the restaurant alone

and

> sat in the

> > booth next to us. As soon a she sat down, she started a

> conversation......with

> > no one......she sat there and talked to an imaginary person the

> entire time

> > she was there. She even ordered food for this make believe

person

> and laughed

> > with her and told her jokes and answered questions that this

> invisible person

> > supposidly asked her. I asked the waitress what was going on

with

> this woman.

> > She told me that she lost her insurance and could no longer

afford

> her

> > medication for schizophrenia. She said this woman frequently

goes

> to Ram's Horn and

> > the staff knows about her condition and how she orders food for

this

> person

> > she believes is there with her and carries on a converstion with

> this person.

> > She also lost her job as a result of her condition. Now,

here's my

> question

> > for you. Does schizophrenia exist? If not, then what the heck

was

> going on

> > with this person? Why was she talking to an imaginary person?

Why

> did she

> > appear normal and could hold a job while she was on medication

for

> schizophrenia,

> > but soon a she went off medication, she started seeing imaginary

> people and

> > could not function in society? Is schizophreina a medical

> condition? I'm a

> > bit lost here because I witnessed this with my own eyes and

> something was going

> > on with this woman. She really believed she was talking to a

person

> that " she

> > saw " but no one else saw. Also, did you see the movie " A

Beautiful

> Mind " ? I

> > heard that movie was based on a true story. Okay, help me

> understand this

> > please. Oh, I also had a patient during my practicum who came

into

> my office

> > and started to have a conversation with the coat rack. Are all

> these people

> > faking this? if they are, then they should go to Hollywood

because

> they are darn

> > good actors.

> >

> > Gab

> >

> >

> >

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My partial generalised seizures ........got me labled with schizo-

affective illness.

> >

> > Hi Pam,

> >

> > Okay, I admit that I'm confused, but in order for me to

fully

> understand

> > things, I do need to ask questions so hope you don't mind. For

the

> most

> > part, I do agree that a lot of the mental illness diagnosis is

> unjustified.

> > However, I have personally witness something and to this date

don't

> know what to

> > make of this situation. Maybe you can help me out.

> >

> > A few years ago, there was a woman who worked at our local

> CVS. She

> > worked the floor and would stock products on the shelves. I

would

> see her from

> > time to time and say hi to her when I went to CVS to shop. One

day,

> I stopped

> > seeing her at work and just thought maybe she quit and got

another

> job.

> > Well, a few weeks later, my friend and I went to Ram's Horn for

> dinner and this

> > woman, who used to work at CVS, came into the restaurant alone

and

> sat in the

> > booth next to us. As soon a she sat down, she started a

> conversation......with

> > no one......she sat there and talked to an imaginary person the

> entire time

> > she was there. She even ordered food for this make believe

person

> and laughed

> > with her and told her jokes and answered questions that this

> invisible person

> > supposidly asked her. I asked the waitress what was going on

with

> this woman.

> > She told me that she lost her insurance and could no longer

afford

> her

> > medication for schizophrenia. She said this woman frequently

goes

> to Ram's Horn and

> > the staff knows about her condition and how she orders food for

this

> person

> > she believes is there with her and carries on a converstion with

> this person.

> > She also lost her job as a result of her condition. Now,

here's my

> question

> > for you. Does schizophrenia exist? If not, then what the heck

was

> going on

> > with this person? Why was she talking to an imaginary person?

Why

> did she

> > appear normal and could hold a job while she was on medication

for

> schizophrenia,

> > but soon a she went off medication, she started seeing imaginary

> people and

> > could not function in society? Is schizophreina a medical

> condition? I'm a

> > bit lost here because I witnessed this with my own eyes and

> something was going

> > on with this woman. She really believed she was talking to a

person

> that " she

> > saw " but no one else saw. Also, did you see the movie " A

Beautiful

> Mind " ? I

> > heard that movie was based on a true story. Okay, help me

> understand this

> > please. Oh, I also had a patient during my practicum who came

into

> my office

> > and started to have a conversation with the coat rack. Are all

> these people

> > faking this? if they are, then they should go to Hollywood

because

> they are darn

> > good actors.

> >

> > Gab

> >

> >

> >

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> Thanks, Sara. So can anything be done to help

> people who seem to have

> symptoms of " schizophrenia " .....hearing

> voices....seeing people who don't

> exist? I couldn't imagine living like that.

My Grandmother has the " sight " . She could comunicate

with people who had past. In Scotland, where I lived

everyone knew Maggie, and her gift. They came to her

when they needed help and she gave it. They seemed

happy with her answers and her help. So I guess she

was Schizophrenic?

Maggs.

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> Thanks, Sara. So can anything be done to help

> people who seem to have

> symptoms of " schizophrenia " .....hearing

> voices....seeing people who don't

> exist? I couldn't imagine living like that.

My Grandmother has the " sight " . She could comunicate

with people who had past. In Scotland, where I lived

everyone knew Maggie, and her gift. They came to her

when they needed help and she gave it. They seemed

happy with her answers and her help. So I guess she

was Schizophrenic?

Maggs.

__________________________________

- PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

http://mail.

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> Thanks, Sara. So can anything be done to help

> people who seem to have

> symptoms of " schizophrenia " .....hearing

> voices....seeing people who don't

> exist? I couldn't imagine living like that.

My Grandmother has the " sight " . She could comunicate

with people who had past. In Scotland, where I lived

everyone knew Maggie, and her gift. They came to her

when they needed help and she gave it. They seemed

happy with her answers and her help. So I guess she

was Schizophrenic?

Maggs.

__________________________________

- PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

http://mail.

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