Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 , Good to have you aboard and glad you have explored the MkUltra stuff .. please keep exploring it, and the drug experiments on U.S. citizens. With regard to Wellbutrin I would add several things to what Connie has already said. I used to have a lot of trouble with anxiety and was put on BusPar -- which lessened the feelings of anxiety but I also couldn't feel anything else ... and I do mean not a thing ... not to mention the fact that I had major trouble concentrating ... I would think, today, I have to write this letter, or work on a musical arrangement, etc., and I was so zonked out I couldn't think straight ... I am glad you've come here to learn and encourage you to look at the archives which have a wealth of information about the black box warnings placed on antidepressants for children ... you may also wish to go to http://www.drugawareness.org and http://scholar.google.com The latter will point you to Physicians' Desk Reference and Journal articles which will tell you the side effects of these drugs if they are taken over a long period. I concur with Connie that the drugs, while seeming to fix the problem, are like putting a bandaid on the problem. It may be helpful to look into environmental and health factors as she suggests and into behavioral factors as well. I found that Ellison's Rational Emotive Therapy concepts helped me a lot ... because at the root of a lot of my anxiety was the coping mechanism I'd devellopped of blowing everything way out of proportion ... everything no matter how small was the end of the world or something awful and before long it was not just one thing but it would be like a snowball rolling downhill and I'd begin worrying about everything ... there are books which helped me a lot, namely Dale Carnegie's book How to Stop Worrying and Start Living. My anxiety level was mild compared to what you describe having experienced ... nevertheless I do encourage you and your family to check out these resources along with the diet and walking Connie mentioned, and the spiritual resources too Hope this helps and that you'll continue to look for information .. the fact that you are here points to a need to know more and a concern for yourself and family, both commendable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 , Good to have you aboard and glad you have explored the MkUltra stuff .. please keep exploring it, and the drug experiments on U.S. citizens. With regard to Wellbutrin I would add several things to what Connie has already said. I used to have a lot of trouble with anxiety and was put on BusPar -- which lessened the feelings of anxiety but I also couldn't feel anything else ... and I do mean not a thing ... not to mention the fact that I had major trouble concentrating ... I would think, today, I have to write this letter, or work on a musical arrangement, etc., and I was so zonked out I couldn't think straight ... I am glad you've come here to learn and encourage you to look at the archives which have a wealth of information about the black box warnings placed on antidepressants for children ... you may also wish to go to http://www.drugawareness.org and http://scholar.google.com The latter will point you to Physicians' Desk Reference and Journal articles which will tell you the side effects of these drugs if they are taken over a long period. I concur with Connie that the drugs, while seeming to fix the problem, are like putting a bandaid on the problem. It may be helpful to look into environmental and health factors as she suggests and into behavioral factors as well. I found that Ellison's Rational Emotive Therapy concepts helped me a lot ... because at the root of a lot of my anxiety was the coping mechanism I'd devellopped of blowing everything way out of proportion ... everything no matter how small was the end of the world or something awful and before long it was not just one thing but it would be like a snowball rolling downhill and I'd begin worrying about everything ... there are books which helped me a lot, namely Dale Carnegie's book How to Stop Worrying and Start Living. My anxiety level was mild compared to what you describe having experienced ... nevertheless I do encourage you and your family to check out these resources along with the diet and walking Connie mentioned, and the spiritual resources too Hope this helps and that you'll continue to look for information .. the fact that you are here points to a need to know more and a concern for yourself and family, both commendable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 It really happened. People were dosed at parties and then watched, etc etc >Just a quick note to let you know that I did read the MK post and I get it. I've been looking at the subject for a few months frequently and repeatedly. Don't know fully what to make of the O'Brien story. It becomes a reqular ultra-rumor mill many times. Hope you have a safe and peaceful night. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 It really happened. People were dosed at parties and then watched, etc etc >Just a quick note to let you know that I did read the MK post and I get it. I've been looking at the subject for a few months frequently and repeatedly. Don't know fully what to make of the O'Brien story. It becomes a reqular ultra-rumor mill many times. Hope you have a safe and peaceful night. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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