Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Terry... So many people have such an awful time on treatment...and for too many people there are after effects. And at the same time many people seem to breeze through treatment. We don't really know the extent of damage from treatment....they aren't interested in providing that information...and certainly don't want us to know the things that treatment can bring on. Shucks, they don't even know all that much about the effects of hep c on the body other than liver damage...and in the last couple years they've learned that it causes some forms of dementia. I think the reason why we are told over and over again to drink lots of water is because the build up of ammonia has a terrible effect on the brain. It's called encephalitis (sp?) and is a horrible thing. One of my brother in laws had it for several months before he died of liver failure. He couldn't even remember how to dress himself. I keep that memory in my mind as I'm struggling to drink all that water... But I don't think any of this was what Alley was talking about. She was talking about a 20 year high school reunion...people who hadn't seen each other for 20 years getting together. And when people in a situation like that ask how you are, they don't really want to know. Alley has gone through so much over the years. She too suffered horribly with treatment...and then had a cancer that the treatment was large doses of interferon. But she held on to positive thinking and survived treatment and then the cancer treatment. She had some awful years and that shouldn't be discredited. And she still lives with awful headaches. She's been an inspiration for many of us. Headaches sure seem to be a re-occurring theme. I don't know if it's treatment or the hep. However, I lived with migraines for many years of my life and when on rebetron, they went away to never return. Yet other people who haven't dealt with horrible headaches in their lives, get them during treatment and live with them post treatment. That goes to show you that treatment does have some affect on us that has yet to be explained. Headaches ... the worst thing about headaches is that you can't disassociate from them. We seem to be able to disassociate from individual pains in other parts of the body...but lose that ability when the pain is in the head...or when it's a systemic pain like joints, etc. Why we all react to treatment so differently, I don't understand. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with how fit we are or how healthy we are despite the hep. This has come up often over the years. Strange that with treatment like chemo, the sides are so predictable while the sides from hep c treatment are so different from one person to the next. Wow, I've really rambled on...didn't mean to do that. I still have evening chores to do...and my shot...and, have a lot of mail to get through before I head to bed. I've been reclaiming my life from the internet... BTW, 3 more shots to do and that's counting the shot for tonight. After it, 2 more weeks and then I'm done. Waa hoo...the light is getting brighter at the end of this tunnel. Blessings Tatezi I agree with you about not elaborating on sickness and being positive, but you seem to be able to do more and have a more productive life than some of us. You have a full life. When everything you do is a struggle for the energy to do it, and many things you love to do are taken away from you, it is a different story, though I still lie to many people and smile, when they ask, how are you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Terry... So many people have such an awful time on treatment...and for too many people there are after effects. And at the same time many people seem to breeze through treatment. We don't really know the extent of damage from treatment....they aren't interested in providing that information...and certainly don't want us to know the things that treatment can bring on. Shucks, they don't even know all that much about the effects of hep c on the body other than liver damage...and in the last couple years they've learned that it causes some forms of dementia. I think the reason why we are told over and over again to drink lots of water is because the build up of ammonia has a terrible effect on the brain. It's called encephalitis (sp?) and is a horrible thing. One of my brother in laws had it for several months before he died of liver failure. He couldn't even remember how to dress himself. I keep that memory in my mind as I'm struggling to drink all that water... But I don't think any of this was what Alley was talking about. She was talking about a 20 year high school reunion...people who hadn't seen each other for 20 years getting together. And when people in a situation like that ask how you are, they don't really want to know. Alley has gone through so much over the years. She too suffered horribly with treatment...and then had a cancer that the treatment was large doses of interferon. But she held on to positive thinking and survived treatment and then the cancer treatment. She had some awful years and that shouldn't be discredited. And she still lives with awful headaches. She's been an inspiration for many of us. Headaches sure seem to be a re-occurring theme. I don't know if it's treatment or the hep. However, I lived with migraines for many years of my life and when on rebetron, they went away to never return. Yet other people who haven't dealt with horrible headaches in their lives, get them during treatment and live with them post treatment. That goes to show you that treatment does have some affect on us that has yet to be explained. Headaches ... the worst thing about headaches is that you can't disassociate from them. We seem to be able to disassociate from individual pains in other parts of the body...but lose that ability when the pain is in the head...or when it's a systemic pain like joints, etc. Why we all react to treatment so differently, I don't understand. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with how fit we are or how healthy we are despite the hep. This has come up often over the years. Strange that with treatment like chemo, the sides are so predictable while the sides from hep c treatment are so different from one person to the next. Wow, I've really rambled on...didn't mean to do that. I still have evening chores to do...and my shot...and, have a lot of mail to get through before I head to bed. I've been reclaiming my life from the internet... BTW, 3 more shots to do and that's counting the shot for tonight. After it, 2 more weeks and then I'm done. Waa hoo...the light is getting brighter at the end of this tunnel. Blessings Tatezi I agree with you about not elaborating on sickness and being positive, but you seem to be able to do more and have a more productive life than some of us. You have a full life. When everything you do is a struggle for the energy to do it, and many things you love to do are taken away from you, it is a different story, though I still lie to many people and smile, when they ask, how are you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Dont you think maybe differences in reactions to treatment may have a lot to do with what stage you are in with damage.. I have never had headache problems with treatment.. i have cirrhosis and first treatment did help me to be able to navigate better.. felt better.. but think stress in life in general also effects reactions to treatment.. now i have gone thru another treatement exactly a year ago.. and did not get as good of a report back and not feeling well.. have water retention problems and joint problems when sit too much.. am walking and biking .. seems to help some.. nice weather in midwest but rainy, Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Dont you think maybe differences in reactions to treatment may have a lot to do with what stage you are in with damage.. I have never had headache problems with treatment.. i have cirrhosis and first treatment did help me to be able to navigate better.. felt better.. but think stress in life in general also effects reactions to treatment.. now i have gone thru another treatement exactly a year ago.. and did not get as good of a report back and not feeling well.. have water retention problems and joint problems when sit too much.. am walking and biking .. seems to help some.. nice weather in midwest but rainy, Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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