Re: Fighting Depression/chats

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave, sorry to hear you are feeling down again. Honestly I think

chronic pain and depression go hand in hand. I have yet to meet more

than a few people who aren't depressed in pain. I wish there were a

support group here too, I tried to ask about starting one at my dr's

office and they brushed me off,not wanting to get involved with it.

Although most of the people I meet in there NEED a group like this or

to meet with, we all have to vent somewhere. Most of us spend our

days alone and have only the pain for a companion. NOT a great

company either, after being used to dealing with working and being

around people most of our lives. For myself my 4 legged babies keep

me moving. Without them to take care of there are many days after 3

or 4 hrs of sleep I honestly don't want to crawl out of bed. Thats

one of the main reasons I still have them although it looking more

and more like I will only move a few and leave several behind now.

Breaks my heart to think of leaving them but that is only IF we ever

sell this house. If I wasn't so insanely busy with the time I have

when I am able to move around easier I'd be more depressed than I am.

But things seem to keep happening and me myself and I get to deal

with it all so I have no choice but to keep moving till I drop. Seems

like one thing after another keeps happening, leaking water heater

had to be replaced, lightening hit a heat pump compressor and killed

it, you get the idea. It never seems to stop around here. I think a

chat session is a great idea. Mornings I am usually up early but I am

not sure who else is? messenger works ok for chats or there are

some places you can set up a place to chat for groups. Any ideas from

anyone else????? Let Dave or I know. And Dave you have done a GREAT

JOB with the group, without your help it would have been in big

trouble with me up to my ears in problems here. I can't thank you

enough but I hope everyone realizes how much you are valued in the

group. Take care and let me know what you think about chat sessions.

Sharon Group Owner

>

> I give in, I'm officially fighting depression. I promised myself I

> wouldn't waste another summer, but here I am doing it again. It's

> not where I want to be, and I'm not always there, but mostly I

> am. When I go out with my Train club, I'm productive, social,

using

> my brain and feel useful. I then pay for the next day or two with

> pain, lack of sleep, etc. But it is something I look forward to

> do. On alternative weeks I do this 2X a week, the other

alternative

> weeks I do it Wednesday night, and then per my wife's request I

stay

> home with her on her weekend off. The rest of the week I usually

> can't sleep at night due to pain, and mental anguish or just pure

> insomnia, then I doze on and off during the day. I come back alive

> when my Wife comes home. I do have a visit with my primary care

> Doctor on Monday and will discuss this with him. Other times

during

> the week I do my required chores. I put them off until I can't no

> more, then push through them. The hardest part is getting myself

out

> the door. Once I do, I do pretty well, and assimilate with the

> public. But after I do I'm exhausted, in pain, and usually have a

> migraine and nausea/dizzyness and need to sit down with an ice

> pack. I hate what my life has become. I do see a psychiatrist and

> am due to see him soon. I'm on antidepressants and meds to help me

> sleep. I need to interact with people in a productive and mind

> stimulating way. Up until disability i owned my own company,

worked

> for little startups etc. I miss the using my mind. I need a group

> like this, but local and face to face. I've been in and out of

> therapy since the late 80's. I do well in group therapy and find

> individual generally a waste of time. I don't want to waste away

my

> days until I end up in a nursing home ( a big fear of mine ) I'm

> sure some of you can relate.

> Maybe we should think about regularly scheduled on-line chats where

> we can all vent and help each other, I can't be the only one who

> feels this way. Don't you all miss contributing to society. I

miss

> using my mind more than my back. I need to break out of this

prison

> I created for myself, but also be realistic to the pain and

> limitations, it's not like I just decided to quit working. Pain &

> loss of stamina made me quit working. The pain is very real, I

> accept that, but I don't want to curl up and die at 47, and thats

how

> I feel sometimes. It's so easy to curl up on the la-z-boy and

escape

> from the pain and stress for a few hours. Even then it's not a

real

> escape, in my vivid real dreams, I'm always working and failing,

and

> struggling, it's never an escape to fantasy island in my

> dreams. And they are very real. Most of them I'm also almost able

to

> get back together with my first Wife Suzy who is dead. We come so

> close, and then it doesn't happen, the other morning I woke up and

> said to myself, of course it doesn't happen, it can't, she's no

> longer here. Luckily my Wife understands that I can love her very

> much, and still miss my first wife very much. Well I spouted too

> long. Maybe I touched a nerve in someone else. Someone else who

is

> fighting pain & depression. They are a dynamic duo. Thanks for

> listening. Dave

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave, sorry to hear you are feeling down again. Honestly I think

chronic pain and depression go hand in hand. I have yet to meet more

than a few people who aren't depressed in pain. I wish there were a

support group here too, I tried to ask about starting one at my dr's

office and they brushed me off,not wanting to get involved with it.

Although most of the people I meet in there NEED a group like this or

to meet with, we all have to vent somewhere. Most of us spend our

days alone and have only the pain for a companion. NOT a great

company either, after being used to dealing with working and being

around people most of our lives. For myself my 4 legged babies keep

me moving. Without them to take care of there are many days after 3

or 4 hrs of sleep I honestly don't want to crawl out of bed. Thats

one of the main reasons I still have them although it looking more

and more like I will only move a few and leave several behind now.

Breaks my heart to think of leaving them but that is only IF we ever

sell this house. If I wasn't so insanely busy with the time I have

when I am able to move around easier I'd be more depressed than I am.

But things seem to keep happening and me myself and I get to deal

with it all so I have no choice but to keep moving till I drop. Seems

like one thing after another keeps happening, leaking water heater

had to be replaced, lightening hit a heat pump compressor and killed

it, you get the idea. It never seems to stop around here. I think a

chat session is a great idea. Mornings I am usually up early but I am

not sure who else is? messenger works ok for chats or there are

some places you can set up a place to chat for groups. Any ideas from

anyone else????? Let Dave or I know. And Dave you have done a GREAT

JOB with the group, without your help it would have been in big

trouble with me up to my ears in problems here. I can't thank you

enough but I hope everyone realizes how much you are valued in the

group. Take care and let me know what you think about chat sessions.

Sharon Group Owner

>

> I give in, I'm officially fighting depression. I promised myself I

> wouldn't waste another summer, but here I am doing it again. It's

> not where I want to be, and I'm not always there, but mostly I

> am. When I go out with my Train club, I'm productive, social,

using

> my brain and feel useful. I then pay for the next day or two with

> pain, lack of sleep, etc. But it is something I look forward to

> do. On alternative weeks I do this 2X a week, the other

alternative

> weeks I do it Wednesday night, and then per my wife's request I

stay

> home with her on her weekend off. The rest of the week I usually

> can't sleep at night due to pain, and mental anguish or just pure

> insomnia, then I doze on and off during the day. I come back alive

> when my Wife comes home. I do have a visit with my primary care

> Doctor on Monday and will discuss this with him. Other times

during

> the week I do my required chores. I put them off until I can't no

> more, then push through them. The hardest part is getting myself

out

> the door. Once I do, I do pretty well, and assimilate with the

> public. But after I do I'm exhausted, in pain, and usually have a

> migraine and nausea/dizzyness and need to sit down with an ice

> pack. I hate what my life has become. I do see a psychiatrist and

> am due to see him soon. I'm on antidepressants and meds to help me

> sleep. I need to interact with people in a productive and mind

> stimulating way. Up until disability i owned my own company,

worked

> for little startups etc. I miss the using my mind. I need a group

> like this, but local and face to face. I've been in and out of

> therapy since the late 80's. I do well in group therapy and find

> individual generally a waste of time. I don't want to waste away

my

> days until I end up in a nursing home ( a big fear of mine ) I'm

> sure some of you can relate.

> Maybe we should think about regularly scheduled on-line chats where

> we can all vent and help each other, I can't be the only one who

> feels this way. Don't you all miss contributing to society. I

miss

> using my mind more than my back. I need to break out of this

prison

> I created for myself, but also be realistic to the pain and

> limitations, it's not like I just decided to quit working. Pain &

> loss of stamina made me quit working. The pain is very real, I

> accept that, but I don't want to curl up and die at 47, and thats

how

> I feel sometimes. It's so easy to curl up on the la-z-boy and

escape

> from the pain and stress for a few hours. Even then it's not a

real

> escape, in my vivid real dreams, I'm always working and failing,

and

> struggling, it's never an escape to fantasy island in my

> dreams. And they are very real. Most of them I'm also almost able

to

> get back together with my first Wife Suzy who is dead. We come so

> close, and then it doesn't happen, the other morning I woke up and

> said to myself, of course it doesn't happen, it can't, she's no

> longer here. Luckily my Wife understands that I can love her very

> much, and still miss my first wife very much. Well I spouted too

> long. Maybe I touched a nerve in someone else. Someone else who

is

> fighting pain & depression. They are a dynamic duo. Thanks for

> listening. Dave

>

[Guest guest]

Dave,

Why can't we have a depression chat group?

I used to belong to one years and years ago but it was infiltrated with young

people who would " barge in " and play loud music over the speakers and no one

could do one thing about it for on the Internet how can you legislate the

inputs?  It was a depression support group and it was just absolutely nuts--

hundreds of people talking and IM-ing ( those - box chats) at the same time

and people asking for dates and giving out web sites for nasty chat and photos

that were not suitable-- on and on--- but perhaps you can start one on

groups and we can email in?

I don't not know how one would get started , the red tape or in this example,

the virtual space that is referred to as the INTERNET.

Annie

 

A poet is, after all, to see

From: Sharon <darkstarzz1019@...>

Subject: Re: Fighting Depression/chats

neck pain

Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 12:19 AM

Hi Dave, sorry to hear you are feeling down again. Honestly I think

chronic pain and depression go hand in hand. I have yet to meet more

than a few people who aren't depressed in pain. I wish there were a

support group here too, I tried to ask about starting one at my dr's

office and they brushed me off,not wanting to get involved with it.

Although most of the people I meet in there NEED a group like this or

to meet with, we all have to vent somewhere. Most of us spend our

days alone and have only the pain for a companion. NOT a great

company either, after being used to dealing with working and being

around people most of our lives. For myself my 4 legged babies keep

me moving. Without them to take care of there are many days after 3

or 4 hrs of sleep I honestly don't want to crawl out of bed. Thats

one of the main reasons I still have them although it looking more

and more like I will only move a few and leave several behind now.

Breaks my heart to think of leaving them but that is only IF we ever

sell this house. If I wasn't so insanely busy with the time I have

when I am able to move around easier I'd be more depressed than I am.

But things seem to keep happening and me myself and I get to deal

with it all so I have no choice but to keep moving till I drop. Seems

like one thing after another keeps happening, leaking water heater

had to be replaced, lightening hit a heat pump compressor and killed

it, you get the idea. It never seems to stop around here. I think a

chat session is a great idea. Mornings I am usually up early but I am

not sure who else is? messenger works ok for chats or there are

some places you can set up a place to chat for groups. Any ideas from

anyone else????? Let Dave or I know. And Dave you have done a GREAT

JOB with the group, without your help it would have been in big

trouble with me up to my ears in problems here. I can't thank you

enough but I hope everyone realizes how much you are valued in the

group. Take care and let me know what you think about chat sessions.

Sharon Group Owner

>

> I give in, I'm officially fighting depression. I promised myself I

> wouldn't waste another summer, but here I am doing it again. It's

> not where I want to be, and I'm not always there, but mostly I

> am. When I go out with my Train club, I'm productive, social,

using

> my brain and feel useful. I then pay for the next day or two with

> pain, lack of sleep, etc. But it is something I look forward to

> do. On alternative weeks I do this 2X a week, the other

alternative

> weeks I do it Wednesday night, and then per my wife's request I

stay

> home with her on her weekend off. The rest of the week I usually

> can't sleep at night due to pain, and mental anguish or just pure

> insomnia, then I doze on and off during the day. I come back alive

> when my Wife comes home. I do have a visit with my primary care

> Doctor on Monday and will discuss this with him. Other times

during

> the week I do my required chores. I put them off until I can't no

> more, then push through them. The hardest part is getting myself

out

> the door. Once I do, I do pretty well, and assimilate with the

> public. But after I do I'm exhausted, in pain, and usually have a

> migraine and nausea/dizzyness and need to sit down with an ice

> pack. I hate what my life has become. I do see a psychiatrist and

> am due to see him soon. I'm on antidepressants and meds to help me

> sleep. I need to interact with people in a productive and mind

> stimulating way. Up until disability i owned my own company,

worked

> for little startups etc. I miss the using my mind. I need a group

> like this, but local and face to face. I've been in and out of

> therapy since the late 80's. I do well in group therapy and find

> individual generally a waste of time. I don't want to waste away

my

> days until I end up in a nursing home ( a big fear of mine ) I'm

> sure some of you can relate.

> Maybe we should think about regularly scheduled on-line chats where

> we can all vent and help each other, I can't be the only one who

> feels this way. Don't you all miss contributing to society. I

miss

> using my mind more than my back. I need to break out of this

prison

> I created for myself, but also be realistic to the pain and

> limitations, it's not like I just decided to quit working. Pain &

> loss of stamina made me quit working. The pain is very real, I

> accept that, but I don't want to curl up and die at 47, and thats

how

> I feel sometimes. It's so easy to curl up on the la-z-boy and

escape

> from the pain and stress for a few hours. Even then it's not a

real

> escape, in my vivid real dreams, I'm always working and failing,

and

> struggling, it's never an escape to fantasy island in my

> dreams. And they are very real. Most of them I'm also almost able

to

> get back together with my first Wife Suzy who is dead. We come so

> close, and then it doesn't happen, the other morning I woke up and

> said to myself, of course it doesn't happen, it can't, she's

no

> longer here. Luckily my Wife understands that I can love her very

> much, and still miss my first wife very much. Well I spouted too

> long. Maybe I touched a nerve in someone else. Someone else who

is

> fighting pain & depression. They are a dynamic duo. Thanks for

> listening. Dave

>

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[Guest guest]

Dave,

Why can't we have a depression chat group?

I used to belong to one years and years ago but it was infiltrated with young

people who would " barge in " and play loud music over the speakers and no one

could do one thing about it for on the Internet how can you legislate the

inputs?  It was a depression support group and it was just absolutely nuts--

hundreds of people talking and IM-ing ( those - box chats) at the same time

and people asking for dates and giving out web sites for nasty chat and photos

that were not suitable-- on and on--- but perhaps you can start one on

groups and we can email in?

I don't not know how one would get started , the red tape or in this example,

the virtual space that is referred to as the INTERNET.

Annie

 

A poet is, after all, to see

From: Sharon <darkstarzz1019@...>

Subject: Re: Fighting Depression/chats

neck pain

Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 12:19 AM

Hi Dave, sorry to hear you are feeling down again. Honestly I think

chronic pain and depression go hand in hand. I have yet to meet more

than a few people who aren't depressed in pain. I wish there were a

support group here too, I tried to ask about starting one at my dr's

office and they brushed me off,not wanting to get involved with it.

Although most of the people I meet in there NEED a group like this or

to meet with, we all have to vent somewhere. Most of us spend our

days alone and have only the pain for a companion. NOT a great

company either, after being used to dealing with working and being

around people most of our lives. For myself my 4 legged babies keep

me moving. Without them to take care of there are many days after 3

or 4 hrs of sleep I honestly don't want to crawl out of bed. Thats

one of the main reasons I still have them although it looking more

and more like I will only move a few and leave several behind now.

Breaks my heart to think of leaving them but that is only IF we ever

sell this house. If I wasn't so insanely busy with the time I have

when I am able to move around easier I'd be more depressed than I am.

But things seem to keep happening and me myself and I get to deal

with it all so I have no choice but to keep moving till I drop. Seems

like one thing after another keeps happening, leaking water heater

had to be replaced, lightening hit a heat pump compressor and killed

it, you get the idea. It never seems to stop around here. I think a

chat session is a great idea. Mornings I am usually up early but I am

not sure who else is? messenger works ok for chats or there are

some places you can set up a place to chat for groups. Any ideas from

anyone else????? Let Dave or I know. And Dave you have done a GREAT

JOB with the group, without your help it would have been in big

trouble with me up to my ears in problems here. I can't thank you

enough but I hope everyone realizes how much you are valued in the

group. Take care and let me know what you think about chat sessions.

Sharon Group Owner

>

> I give in, I'm officially fighting depression. I promised myself I

> wouldn't waste another summer, but here I am doing it again. It's

> not where I want to be, and I'm not always there, but mostly I

> am. When I go out with my Train club, I'm productive, social,

using

> my brain and feel useful. I then pay for the next day or two with

> pain, lack of sleep, etc. But it is something I look forward to

> do. On alternative weeks I do this 2X a week, the other

alternative

> weeks I do it Wednesday night, and then per my wife's request I

stay

> home with her on her weekend off. The rest of the week I usually

> can't sleep at night due to pain, and mental anguish or just pure

> insomnia, then I doze on and off during the day. I come back alive

> when my Wife comes home. I do have a visit with my primary care

> Doctor on Monday and will discuss this with him. Other times

during

> the week I do my required chores. I put them off until I can't no

> more, then push through them. The hardest part is getting myself

out

> the door. Once I do, I do pretty well, and assimilate with the

> public. But after I do I'm exhausted, in pain, and usually have a

> migraine and nausea/dizzyness and need to sit down with an ice

> pack. I hate what my life has become. I do see a psychiatrist and

> am due to see him soon. I'm on antidepressants and meds to help me

> sleep. I need to interact with people in a productive and mind

> stimulating way. Up until disability i owned my own company,

worked

> for little startups etc. I miss the using my mind. I need a group

> like this, but local and face to face. I've been in and out of

> therapy since the late 80's. I do well in group therapy and find

> individual generally a waste of time. I don't want to waste away

my

> days until I end up in a nursing home ( a big fear of mine ) I'm

> sure some of you can relate.

> Maybe we should think about regularly scheduled on-line chats where

> we can all vent and help each other, I can't be the only one who

> feels this way. Don't you all miss contributing to society. I

miss

> using my mind more than my back. I need to break out of this

prison

> I created for myself, but also be realistic to the pain and

> limitations, it's not like I just decided to quit working. Pain &

> loss of stamina made me quit working. The pain is very real, I

> accept that, but I don't want to curl up and die at 47, and thats

how

> I feel sometimes. It's so easy to curl up on the la-z-boy and

escape

> from the pain and stress for a few hours. Even then it's not a

real

> escape, in my vivid real dreams, I'm always working and failing,

and

> struggling, it's never an escape to fantasy island in my

> dreams. And they are very real. Most of them I'm also almost able

to

> get back together with my first Wife Suzy who is dead. We come so

> close, and then it doesn't happen, the other morning I woke up and

> said to myself, of course it doesn't happen, it can't, she's

no

> longer here. Luckily my Wife understands that I can love her very

> much, and still miss my first wife very much. Well I spouted too

> long. Maybe I touched a nerve in someone else. Someone else who

is

> fighting pain & depression. They are a dynamic duo. Thanks for

> listening. Dave

>

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