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Margaret wrote:

> Hi, to from Switzerland. One of these days I want to get there. >

Hello Margaret !

You have my e-mail address, tell me when you'll get here, I'll show you

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In a message dated 2/2/03 9:19:44 AM Central Standard Time,

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> Wow, I would love to see Switzerland again! We were there when I was a

> child! It is a beautiful country!

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I'd love to see it again, too! Except I've only seen it from German airspace

at 35,000 feet.

Zach

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Lori, I'm of Canadian origin but pretty much living in Switzerland since 1992. The health insurance system here is private and coverage is mandatory for everyone. Unless one has somekind of special status related to social assistance, the premium varies greatly from one canton to another (equivalent of states). The basic health ins. premium is roughly 220-300 Swiss francs a month (170 to 250 us$)- same for everyone in one canton. To this most people who can afford it buy complementary ins. cover whose cost varies according to one's condition. A friend with cancer aged 46 pays 800 SF in total for both types of ins. This covers nearly any health services you can imagine (homeopathy included, etc.) Health care is relatively good. After having tried several ENT's I however found the best ones to be in the public health hospitals (university hospitals). They are more up to date with

developments it seems to me. There is one of them running a reserach team specialized in Samters based in Geneva. He cured my polyps as none grew back for 2 years now. He is very strict with patients but really worth it. Doctors more often refer to Samters as Widal-tirad syndrome. The environment is good for Samterites especially at high altitude (outside of cities).This is a wonderful country to live in and easily accessible. Anne Lori Baur <lori@...> wrote: Hi Anne, I am glad to see someone in Switzerland. Are you originally Swiss or from somewhere else? I may move to Switzerland one day and would love to stay in touch with someone who is there because I am scared about transitioning to a new healthcare system. The US system certainly has many flaws but at least they are flaws I am familiar with. You know how the evil you know is better than the evil you don't know. Anyway any comments you have about treatment of Samters in Switzerland, health insurance there, finding doctors, etc., would be helpful. My husband is Swiss and we were just there for a few weeks. Thanks Lori

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Hello Elsie,

Would you, please, share your success story. Most of the posters are struggling and I would love to hear how you have gotten your Triad under control.

I moved from high altitude (7,000 ft) to sea level two years ago. I don’t feel any different. Maybe it only works the other way and my guess is that the effects would wear off as your system adapts.

Pam

On 8/26/06 1:03 PM, " elsie muller " <idiewitwe@...> wrote:

Hello All,

As a (now controlled) Triad sufferer I check this site often although I seldom post. - Just want to add my " me too " re' the high-altitude environment experience. Presently I live at sea level and when I spend time at elevations about 2500' (not very high) I feel so much better. I wonder why this is.

mml

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I moved from San , CA last year to Denver. I actually think I feel worse living at high altitude. However, I'm going to have my 5th surgery next month, so i could be that I'm already impacted.Rexrexerito@... On Aug 26, 2006, at 4:19 PM, Pamela wrote:Hello Elsie,Would you, please, share your success story.  Most of the posters are struggling and I would love to hear how you have gotten your Triad under control.  I moved from high altitude (7,000 ft) to sea level two years ago.  I don’t feel any different.  Maybe it only works the other way and my guess is that the effects would wear off as your system adapts.PamOn 8/26/06 1:03 PM, "elsie muller" <idiewitwe > wrote:Hello All,     As a (now controlled) Triad sufferer I check this site often although I seldom post. - Just want to add my "me too" re' the high-altitude environment experience. Presently I live at sea level and when I spend time at elevations about 2500' (not very high) I feel so much better.  I wonder why this is.       mml  

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Dear Pam and others, I'm not sure what my answer would be specifically but here are a few of my experiences. 1) My husband was an addicted smoker. Unfortunately, he died from lung cancer 8 years ago. I have improved since then. 2) There was a time when I was doing something very challenging and stimulating. I was happy and natural adrenalin was running high - my symptoms were almost gone.I think there was an emotional link. 3) There were also times that my asthma was so bad that i almost literally crawled into the doctors office for a shot of adrenalin and prednisone. I've been prescribed just about every med available with varying results. It seems that they work for awhile, and then a change is necessary. 4) I had asthma as a young child, was treated by a homeopathic doctor with some sugary

powder under my tongue. That's about all I remember of that. Asthma returned in later years, about the same time as menopause. Therefore, I've wondered if in my case, it is hormone related although I do not use hormone replacement meds. 5) My ENT suggests nasal surgery and my Asthma specialist said periodic rounds of prednisone is effective as polyps will return. Subsequently, I've been going back and forth about what to do and so far, i've avoided the surgery (I think i'm chicken). 6) Presently I use Qvar 80 mg 2xdaily, 1 singular 10mg at bedtime, flonase and carry Proventil everywhere I go for rescue if necessary and avoid processed foods. 7) When I get run down, a cold ensues which turns into bronchitus followed by a 6 + week ordeal before it is gone so I try to maintain a reasonable schedule - which is much easier now that I've retired. I've also

found that regular exercise is helpful, but of course after I get sick, i can' exercise until i'm better. A catch-22. Guess that's about all i can think of for now. Each of us is different, but it is helpful to know what works for others. I hope this post will provoke some ideas/helps for others. Elsie Pamela <pam@...> wrote: Hello Elsie,Would you, please,

share your success story. Most of the posters are struggling and I would love to hear how you have gotten your Triad under control. I moved from high altitude (7,000 ft) to sea level two years ago. I don’t feel any different. Maybe it only works the other way and my guess is that the effects would wear off as your system adapts.PamOn 8/26/06 1:03 PM, "elsie muller" <idiewitwe > wrote: Hello All, As a (now controlled) Triad sufferer I check this site often although I seldom post. - Just want to add my "me too" re' the high-altitude environment experience. Presently I live at sea level and when I spend time at elevations about 2500' (not very high) I feel so much better. I wonder why this is. mml

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Hi Andy,

I have only been on the Jungfrau in the Summer. It is a rather expensive trip for me.

Cheers,

Karl W>

Re: Switzerland

Karl this is interesting!I think it's fairly common knowledge that asthma sufferers who are under control have potentially excellent lung capacity which may explain why you leave your son behind! Perhaps it's the cleaner high altitude air and maybe a certain outdoors 'joie de vivre' help your asthma to subside What season(s) do you have the best results on your Jungfrau excursions? (thinking abt factors of air temp., pollen load, etc etc)Hope it helps someoneAndy (UK)

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Hi Anne,

We just recently moved to Zurich from Chicago 3 months ago and I would

be interested to know more about your treatment that cured your

polyps. I am also interested in the research team in Geneva,

hopefully they may have some contacts in Zurich.

I had surgery in 2005 and my last checkup around 9 months ago I was

fine but my sense of smell is now gone again, so I am assuming it is

polyps. I am on Singulair, Nasonex, and have not noticed any

difference since relocating from Chicago to Zurich. I was already

losing my sense of smell prior to the relocation.

Thanks,

-Ken

> Hi Anne,

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> I am glad to see someone in Switzerland. Are you originally Swiss

or from somewhere else? I may move to Switzerland one day and would

love to stay in touch with someone who is there because I am scared

about transitioning to a new healthcare system. The US system

certainly has many flaws but at least they are flaws I am familiar

with. You know how the evil you know is better than the evil you

don't know.

>

> Anyway any comments you have about treatment of Samters in

Switzerland, health insurance there, finding doctors, etc., would be

helpful. My husband is Swiss and we were just there for a few weeks.

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> Thanks

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what treatment did he give you Anne? Re: Switzerland

Hi Anne,

We just recently moved to Zurich from Chicago 3 months ago and I would

be interested to know more about your treatment that cured your

polyps. I am also interested in the research team in Geneva,

hopefully they may have some contacts in Zurich.

I had surgery in 2005 and my last checkup around 9 months ago I was

fine but my sense of smell is now gone again, so I am assuming it is

polyps. I am on Singulair, Nasonex, and have not noticed any

difference since relocating from Chicago to Zurich. I was already

losing my sense of smell prior to the relocation.

Thanks,

-Ken

> Hi Anne,

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> I am glad to see someone in Switzerland. Are you originally Swiss

or from somewhere else? I may move to Switzerland one day and would

love to stay in touch with someone who is there because I am scared

about transitioning to a new healthcare system. The US system

certainly has many flaws but at least they are flaws I am familiar

with. You know how the evil you know is better than the evil you

don't know.

>

> Anyway any comments you have about treatment of Samters in

Switzerland, health insurance there, finding doctors, etc., would be

helpful. My husband is Swiss and we were just there for a few weeks.

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> Thanks

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Hullo Dawn. I dont think there is anywhere safe in the world where BigPharma Needles havent been, or any countries that have banned vaccines completely. There are some places that mandate them, and other places that are more lenient, and parents still have the power of yes and no for their children's health concerns. (unless I find or hear otherwise, no country has banned vaccines)

There are places where certain vaccines are more taboo or frowned upon, and certainly, have been eliminated for awhile. But as a whole, all countries, that I know of, have vaccines in force, including Switzerland. But the Swiss do tend to boohoo the MMR.

Many countries are turning away from vaccinating poultry and livestock, and banning EU, GMO foods, etc, and are not exporting/importing certain meats and animal products, so maybe that is what your friend was confusing human vaccinating with. You can look up most countries current vaccination schedules.

Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/science_technology/detail/One_in_five_Swiss_children_left_unvaccinated.html?siteSect=511 & sid=581399 & cKey=982587540000

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Hullo Dawn. I dont think there is anywhere safe in the world where BigPharma Needles havent been, or any countries that have banned vaccines completely. There are some places that mandate them, and other places that are more lenient, and parents still have the power of yes and no for their children's health concerns. (unless I find or hear otherwise, no country has banned vaccines)

There are places where certain vaccines are more taboo or frowned upon, and certainly, have been eliminated for awhile. But as a whole, all countries, that I know of, have vaccines in force, including Switzerland. But the Swiss do tend to boohoo the MMR.

Many countries are turning away from vaccinating poultry and livestock, and banning EU, GMO foods, etc, and are not exporting/importing certain meats and animal products, so maybe that is what your friend was confusing human vaccinating with. You can look up most countries current vaccination schedules.

Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/science_technology/detail/One_in_five_Swiss_children_left_unvaccinated.html?siteSect=511 & sid=581399 & cKey=982587540000

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And while we are on the subject of other countries -

What are the vaccine policies/laws in Canada?

Just curious . . . .

thanks

From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On

Behalf Of Ayako Kato

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:38 PM

Vaccinations

Subject: Switzerland

There was a question about Switzerland a while back (it could have been

by Dawn?), and since I know someone who recently moved there with a

toddler, and I was also curious, I asked her about it.

She told me that the Swiss don't have mandatory vaccination schedule

because it is generally understood that " some children may risk getting

sicker rather than being protected " and any responsible pediatricians

work with patients on an individualized, reasonable schedule.

So, yes they do vaccinate in general, but it sounds as though they're

also given a choice.

Ayako

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At 10:38 PM 2/25/2009, you wrote:

>There was a question about Switzerland a while back (it could have been

>by Dawn?), and since I know someone who recently moved there with a

>toddler, and I was also curious, I asked her about it.

>

>She told me that the Swiss don't have mandatory vaccination schedule

>because it is generally understood that " some children may risk getting

>sicker rather than being protected " and any responsible pediatricians

>work with patients on an individualized, reasonable schedule.

>

>So, yes they do vaccinate in general, but it sounds as though they're

>also given a choice.

That's how it is in most of western Europe except France and polio

vaccine in Belgium.

http://www.euvac.net/graphics/euvac/vaccination/vaccination.html

This is for all countries in the European Union.

Sheri

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