Re: Your Going To Find This Hard To Swallow

[Guest guest]

perhaps if we referred to them as planning theories instead of conspiracy theories.I think the difference between planning and conspiracy is the planning is kept a secret in the latter. Still planning though.Kirk"Your talent is God’s gift to you. What you do with it is your gift back to God"The human brain should be used for processing, not storage.From: mentalalchemist <mentalalchemist@...>Subject: Re: Your Going To Find This Hard To Swallowno-forced-vaccination Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 4:46 AM

Then add this to the equation...

Global warming hysteria serves as excuse for world government

If world government is to be achieved by consent, the world must be sold on the idea of world government and its necessity.

http://www.oldthink ernews.com/ Articl... a_serves_ a.htm

A description of this supposed admission can be found in the 1982 Executive Intelligence Review Special Report "Global 2000: blueprint for genocide.."

Global 2000

The Club of Rome commissioned Cyrus Vance, Jimmy 's Secretary of State to write The Global 2000 report. This is a Draconian plan to reduce the world's population by means of wars, famine, diseases, and plagues. The HIV virus and the Aids epidemic became a part of this plan.

The Club of Rome appears to base much of its important decisions affecting mankind on the philosophy of Polish aristocrat, Felix Dzerzinski, who regarded mankind as being slightly above the level of cattle.

In 1976, the United States Association of the Club of Rome (USACOR) was formed for the purpose of shutting down the U.S. economy gradually.

It is being implimented under Agenda 21 as well as other sub programs such as

CODEX ALIMENTARIUS (depopulation that is)

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=lyLI8UVdTzQ

The Technetronic Era

The Club of Rome commissioned Zbigniew Brzezinski, s National Security Advisor, (who also with Rockefeller formed The Trilateral Commission in 1973), to write The Technetronic Era. This is a post-industrial zero growth plan designed in part to cripple U.S. industry in order to prepare us for the New World Order.

NATO-Club of Rome officials charged with urgent anti-NASA action were Harland Cleveland, ph Slater, Claiborne K. Pell, Walter J. Levy, McGhee, Watts, Strausz-Hupe (U.S. ambassador to NATO) and Lesh. In May 1967 a meeting was organized by the Scientific and Technological Committee of the North Atlantic Assembly and the Foreign Policy Research Institute. It was called "Conference on Transatlantic Imbalance and Collabora-tion" and it was held at Queen 's palatial property in Deauville, France.

The basic purpose and intent of the conference at Deauville was to end U.S. technological and industrial progress..

Out of the conference came two books, one of which is mentioned herein, Brzezinski's "Technotronic Era." The other was written by conference chairman, Aurellio Peccei, entitled "The Chasm Ahead." Peccei largely agreed with Brzezinski, but added that there would be chaos in a future world NOT RULED BY A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.

> Accordingly, conspiracy theories are not welcome here and will not be posted.

>

> Ingrid

[Guest guest]

I believe Ingrid is correct in her assessment of this story. Thankfully the science doesnt exist to implement such a scheme. I suspect that if it did those malthusians would use it but fortunately they are not in free command of the situation.I do believe this story was generated as a false flag to discredit anti vaccine people.Dont be an unwitting tool of the opposition.Kirk"Your talent is God’s gift to you. What you do with it is your gift back to God"The human brain should be used for processing, not storage.

>

>

> Hamish,

>

> Those of us spending an enormous amount of time conducting research,

> perusing scientific publications, writing papers substantiated by solid

> evidence provided by reputable researchers and scientists not funded by

the

> pharma cartel, are constantly told "not to believe everything you read on

> the Internet". And that's exactly what we adhere to, namely check each and

> every source for its credibility before presenting scientifically

> nonsensical drivel as FACTS!

> Naturally, it is your prerogative to buy into this hype, but please don't

> accuse those who recognize this garbage as yet another unsubstantiated

> conspiracy theory disseminated by a clearly anti-semitic source of

"burying

> our heads in the sand".

>

> Ingrid

>

> Right on. Bury your head in sand and pretend that this will blow over

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I believe Ingrid is correct in her assessment of this story. Thankfully the science doesnt exist to implement such a scheme. I suspect that if it did those malthusians would use it but fortunately they are not in free command of the situation.I do believe this story was generated as a false flag to discredit anti vaccine people.Dont be an unwitting tool of the opposition.Kirk"Your talent is God’s gift to you. What you do with it is your gift back to God"The human brain should be used for processing, not storage.

>

>

> Hamish,

>

> Those of us spending an enormous amount of time conducting research,

> perusing scientific publications, writing papers substantiated by solid

> evidence provided by reputable researchers and scientists not funded by

the

> pharma cartel, are constantly told "not to believe everything you read on

> the Internet". And that's exactly what we adhere to, namely check each and

> every source for its credibility before presenting scientifically

> nonsensical drivel as FACTS!

> Naturally, it is your prerogative to buy into this hype, but please don't

> accuse those who recognize this garbage as yet another unsubstantiated

> conspiracy theory disseminated by a clearly anti-semitic source of

"burying

> our heads in the sand".

>

> Ingrid

>

> Right on. Bury your head in sand and pretend that this will blow over

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's not a question of if " you need citations. " If you are posting,

then you need to provide citations in order to be credible.

I think we all appreciate citations from everyone who posts

information as opposed to opinion, and it should be an automatic

inclusion whenever you post thus.

Please do provide.

Thank you.

t

On Sep 5, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Harish Singh wrote:

> Listen. If you dont like the facts then dont pretend that the source

> is not credible. If you've done research, and read scientific data,

> then you'd already have come to the same conclusions. Its called

> inference. **BLINK BLINK** No one from FEMA / DHS will tell you how it

> is that they intend to carry out their program to vaccinate the

> population and why they need to spend billions of dollars on a flu

> that has treatments readily available.

> If you need citations, let me know and I'll email you the relevant

> documents to support the facts. If it's beyond you or if you dont have

> the time, then I understand.

>

> HARISH

>

> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Ingrid Blank<enb1@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hamish,

> >

> > Those of us spending an enormous amount of time conducting research,

> > perusing scientific publications, writing papers substantiated by

> solid

> > evidence provided by reputable researchers and scientists not

> funded by the

> > pharma cartel, are constantly told " not to believe everything you

> read on

> > the Internet " . And that's exactly what we adhere to, namely check

> each and

> > every source for its credibility before presenting scientifically

> > nonsensical drivel as FACTS!

> > Naturally, it is your prerogative to buy into this hype, but

> please don't

> > accuse those who recognize this garbage as yet another

> unsubstantiated

> > conspiracy theory disseminated by a clearly anti-semitic source of

> " burying

> > our heads in the sand " .

> >

> > Ingrid

> >

> > Right on. Bury your head in sand and pretend that this will blow

> over

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It's not a question of if " you need citations. " If you are posting,

then you need to provide citations in order to be credible.

I think we all appreciate citations from everyone who posts

information as opposed to opinion, and it should be an automatic

inclusion whenever you post thus.

Please do provide.

Thank you.

t

On Sep 5, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Harish Singh wrote:

> Listen. If you dont like the facts then dont pretend that the source

> is not credible. If you've done research, and read scientific data,

> then you'd already have come to the same conclusions. Its called

> inference. **BLINK BLINK** No one from FEMA / DHS will tell you how it

> is that they intend to carry out their program to vaccinate the

> population and why they need to spend billions of dollars on a flu

> that has treatments readily available.

> If you need citations, let me know and I'll email you the relevant

> documents to support the facts. If it's beyond you or if you dont have

> the time, then I understand.

>

> HARISH

>

> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Ingrid Blank<enb1@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hamish,

> >

> > Those of us spending an enormous amount of time conducting research,

> > perusing scientific publications, writing papers substantiated by

> solid

> > evidence provided by reputable researchers and scientists not

> funded by the

> > pharma cartel, are constantly told " not to believe everything you

> read on

> > the Internet " . And that's exactly what we adhere to, namely check

> each and

> > every source for its credibility before presenting scientifically

> > nonsensical drivel as FACTS!

> > Naturally, it is your prerogative to buy into this hype, but

> please don't

> > accuse those who recognize this garbage as yet another

> unsubstantiated

> > conspiracy theory disseminated by a clearly anti-semitic source of

> " burying

> > our heads in the sand " .

> >

> > Ingrid

> >

> > Right on. Bury your head in sand and pretend that this will blow

> over

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It is not my intension to sound cold; however, emotions are irrelevant

to logic. Just because someone is dying or has died of cancer does

not make their word credible.

I saw nothing in this video but fear based on paranoia and personal

opinion.

Everyone is entitled to what they believe and feel; however, if one

wants to convince others of his/her opinion, information needs to be

supported; otherwise, it's just as much a lie as the industry's claims

that vaccines are harmless and confer actual immunity.

t

On Sep 5, 2009, at 9:30 AM, mentalalchemist wrote:

> Listen to a man who knew he was dieing and did die of cancer.

>

> Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD and RFID Chips to Russo

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA

>

>

> >

> > Not to make matters worse, but " nano " particles are in the range

> of a nanometer , at least not too many times bigger - a nanometer is

> a billionth of a meter, that's 1 millionth of the size,

> approximately, of the letter " o " as printed in ordinary small type

> on a printed page. That's about 1,000 times less than the resolving

> power of an optical microscope at 1,000 power. A 12x magnifier is

> not usually considered a " microscope, " but a nanometer would be

> about 100,000 times the less than the diameter you could see with

> such a magnifying glass. I really don't know what the upper limit is

> on what is considered a nanoparticle, but it would be far smaller

> than what could be seen with any optical microscope, let alone a 12x

> magnifying glass.

> > Â

> > Anyway, not to put too fine a point on it, but the notions

> conveyed in these claims do not conform to what is called science

> or to what is realistic, and the terminology used is homespun

> fantasy. Anyone with a good background in science can see that.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is not my intension to sound cold; however, emotions are irrelevant

to logic. Just because someone is dying or has died of cancer does

not make their word credible.

I saw nothing in this video but fear based on paranoia and personal

opinion.

Everyone is entitled to what they believe and feel; however, if one

wants to convince others of his/her opinion, information needs to be

supported; otherwise, it's just as much a lie as the industry's claims

that vaccines are harmless and confer actual immunity.

t

On Sep 5, 2009, at 9:30 AM, mentalalchemist wrote:

> Listen to a man who knew he was dieing and did die of cancer.

>

> Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD and RFID Chips to Russo

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA

>

>

> >

> > Not to make matters worse, but " nano " particles are in the range

> of a nanometer , at least not too many times bigger - a nanometer is

> a billionth of a meter, that's 1 millionth of the size,

> approximately, of the letter " o " as printed in ordinary small type

> on a printed page. That's about 1,000 times less than the resolving

> power of an optical microscope at 1,000 power. A 12x magnifier is

> not usually considered a " microscope, " but a nanometer would be

> about 100,000 times the less than the diameter you could see with

> such a magnifying glass. I really don't know what the upper limit is

> on what is considered a nanoparticle, but it would be far smaller

> than what could be seen with any optical microscope, let alone a 12x

> magnifying glass.

> > Â

> > Anyway, not to put too fine a point on it, but the notions

> conveyed in these claims do not conform to what is called science

> or to what is realistic, and the terminology used is homespun

> fantasy. Anyone with a good background in science can see that.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey, guys, first-time contributor from DownUnder:...

non-medical qualification, designing buildings...but

apparently the Mod prefers I carefully avoid digressing

into how and why an architect can be so certain

that no plane hit any building on 9-11-2001

This article that h Singh posted yesterday... and

@Kirk objecting that naobots need batteries

There are many different means by which

computers can scan information emanating

from non-PC materials containing no battery-bots.

e.g. Body parts get scanned medically,

travel bags are scanned forensicly, collecting

gigabytes of info from non-electronic biosystem

and multitudinous material sources.

However small is (y)our needle-dispensed ID

it does NOT have to run RF, therefore you do NOT

need a battery in the thing for personal information

in your injected arm to be forcibly read roadside

by State Troopers' hand-held scanners, agreed?

[if a battery is preferred, it cannot be beyond

the wit of today's Totalitarian Trilateralism to

invent a corpuscle-sized everready cell,

where sub-nano EMF is generated full-time

at zero running cost harnessing the

ever-present, always-renewable body fluid

as a self-recharging capacitor medium

for mini-micro-platelets to create

generating nanocircuitry within

the subhuman-injected foreign nanobody.]

I've only just met Dr Hamel, but I shall certainly

be wanting to read much more of his

medical stuff

(stuff being such a neat techie term, thanks, Kirk)

I intend to trust German medical practise all the more for

reading recently about the then-ailing President Reagan,

recovering after an unpublicised visit to a German clinic.

Avoiding the US Cancer Industry's sub-lethal radiation

and near-fatal chemo apparently has 2 side-effects, both

beneficial to the continuing onstage career of Mr Pres

Ron kept all the his hair....and,

he was still cancer-free at 93.

MikeR

Auckland, NZ

At 03:22 AM 9/6/2009, you wrote:

I think people are being misled by terms such as " nanobots "

which are obviously larger than a nanometer. English majors write the

news not engineers and physicists.

The nano rfid would be impossible with physics as we understand it. An id

has to transmit a unique number which it has to store along with

circuitry to hear the request to transmit. Saving the biggest obstacle

for last - we dont have a power supply that small. Typical rf id are 8mm

by 1 mm. A small object for a lot of complex stuff.

(stuff is a technical term ;-) )

Kirk

" Your talent is God’s gift to you. What you do with it is your

gift back to God "

The human brain should be used for processing, not storage.

>

>

> Hamish,

>

> Those of us spending an enormous amount of time conducting

research,

> perusing scientific publications, writing papers substantiated

by solid

> evidence provided by reputable researchers and scientists not

funded by

the

> pharma cartel, are constantly told " not to believe

everything you read on

> the Internet " . And that's exactly what we adhere to, namely

check each and

> every source for its credibility before presenting

scientifically

> nonsensical drivel as FACTS!

> Naturally, it is your prerogative to buy into this hype, but

please don't

> accuse those who recognize this garbage as yet another

unsubstantiated

> conspiracy theory disseminated by a clearly anti-semitic source

of

" burying

> our heads in the sand " .

>

> Ingrid

>

> Right on. Bury your head in sand and pretend that this will blow

over

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey, guys, first-time contributor from DownUnder:...

non-medical qualification, designing buildings...but

apparently the Mod prefers I carefully avoid digressing

into how and why an architect can be so certain

that no plane hit any building on 9-11-2001

This article that h Singh posted yesterday... and

@Kirk objecting that naobots need batteries

There are many different means by which

computers can scan information emanating

from non-PC materials containing no battery-bots.

e.g. Body parts get scanned medically,

travel bags are scanned forensicly, collecting

gigabytes of info from non-electronic biosystem

and multitudinous material sources.

However small is (y)our needle-dispensed ID

it does NOT have to run RF, therefore you do NOT

need a battery in the thing for personal information

in your injected arm to be forcibly read roadside

by State Troopers' hand-held scanners, agreed?

[if a battery is preferred, it cannot be beyond

the wit of today's Totalitarian Trilateralism to

invent a corpuscle-sized everready cell,

where sub-nano EMF is generated full-time

at zero running cost harnessing the

ever-present, always-renewable body fluid

as a self-recharging capacitor medium

for mini-micro-platelets to create

generating nanocircuitry within

the subhuman-injected foreign nanobody.]

I've only just met Dr Hamel, but I shall certainly

be wanting to read much more of his

medical stuff

(stuff being such a neat techie term, thanks, Kirk)

I intend to trust German medical practise all the more for

reading recently about the then-ailing President Reagan,

recovering after an unpublicised visit to a German clinic.

Avoiding the US Cancer Industry's sub-lethal radiation

and near-fatal chemo apparently has 2 side-effects, both

beneficial to the continuing onstage career of Mr Pres

Ron kept all the his hair....and,

he was still cancer-free at 93.

MikeR

Auckland, NZ

At 03:22 AM 9/6/2009, you wrote:

I think people are being misled by terms such as " nanobots "

which are obviously larger than a nanometer. English majors write the

news not engineers and physicists.

The nano rfid would be impossible with physics as we understand it. An id

has to transmit a unique number which it has to store along with

circuitry to hear the request to transmit. Saving the biggest obstacle

for last - we dont have a power supply that small. Typical rf id are 8mm

by 1 mm. A small object for a lot of complex stuff.

(stuff is a technical term ;-) )

Kirk

" Your talent is God’s gift to you. What you do with it is your

gift back to God "

The human brain should be used for processing, not storage.

>

>

> Hamish,

>

> Those of us spending an enormous amount of time conducting

research,

> perusing scientific publications, writing papers substantiated

by solid

> evidence provided by reputable researchers and scientists not

funded by

the

> pharma cartel, are constantly told " not to believe

everything you read on

> the Internet " . And that's exactly what we adhere to, namely

check each and

> every source for its credibility before presenting

scientifically

> nonsensical drivel as FACTS!

> Naturally, it is your prerogative to buy into this hype, but

please don't

> accuse those who recognize this garbage as yet another

unsubstantiated

> conspiracy theory disseminated by a clearly anti-semitic source

of

" burying

> our heads in the sand " .

>

> Ingrid

>

> Right on. Bury your head in sand and pretend that this will blow

over

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ------

>

>

[Guest guest]

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Ingrid (the Mod)

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[Guest guest]

Your assumption is quite correct and unless related to the objective of this forum, no posts of a similar nature will be forwarded to the group.

Ingrid (the Mod)

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[Guest guest]

You don't sound cold; just skeptical due to a lack of information at your

disposal. s testimony is only one of many.

Here is Dr. Maurice Hilleman, formor head of the Merck Pharmaceutical Vaccine

department. He died a few years ago too. Not before blowing the whistle though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tM8gk8C69M

>

> > Listen to a man who knew he was dieing and did die of cancer.

> >

> > Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD and RFID Chips to Russo

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA

[Guest guest]

You don't sound cold; just skeptical due to a lack of information at your

disposal. s testimony is only one of many.

Here is Dr. Maurice Hilleman, formor head of the Merck Pharmaceutical Vaccine

department. He died a few years ago too. Not before blowing the whistle though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tM8gk8C69M

>

> > Listen to a man who knew he was dieing and did die of cancer.

> >

> > Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD and RFID Chips to Russo

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA