Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Dera : The web addy for Rob's site is SSRICitizen.org. If you are in communication with The Rutherford Institute you might want to suggest that they look at his information contained on that site. Yates was on high doses of Remeron and a double-maximum dose of Effexor, and just prior to that she had been on Haldol and was abruptly taken off the drug without a wash-out period before being doped on the other two meds. If you looked at the drugs she had been prescribed over the years that she was supposedly suffering from PPD, you start to see that most of what she was experiencing was actually either side effects from the drugs or withdrawal symptoms. was on Prozac at the time she killed her children. There have been very few cases like this where the mother was NOT on psychiatric drugs. We've had several similar cases in Denver over the past couple of years, and they all involved SSRIs. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Dera : The web addy for Rob's site is SSRICitizen.org. If you are in communication with The Rutherford Institute you might want to suggest that they look at his information contained on that site. Yates was on high doses of Remeron and a double-maximum dose of Effexor, and just prior to that she had been on Haldol and was abruptly taken off the drug without a wash-out period before being doped on the other two meds. If you looked at the drugs she had been prescribed over the years that she was supposedly suffering from PPD, you start to see that most of what she was experiencing was actually either side effects from the drugs or withdrawal symptoms. was on Prozac at the time she killed her children. There have been very few cases like this where the mother was NOT on psychiatric drugs. We've had several similar cases in Denver over the past couple of years, and they all involved SSRIs. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Yes, and WHY isn't CNN and NBCBSABC et al doing 60 Minutes type specials to shout it from the rooftops, what mayhem these drugs are causing! gertie Re: Homicidal mothers Dera : The web addy for Rob's site is SSRICitizen.org. If you are in communication with The Rutherford Institute you might want to suggest that they look at his information contained on that site. Yates was on high doses of Remeron and a double-maximum dose of Effexor, and just prior to that she had been on Haldol and was abruptly taken off the drug without a wash-out period before being doped on the other two meds. If you looked at the drugs she had been prescribed over the years that she was supposedly suffering from PPD, you start to see that most of what she was experiencing was actually either side effects from the drugs or withdrawal symptoms. was on Prozac at the time she killed her children. There have been very few cases like this where the mother was NOT on psychiatric drugs. We've had several similar cases in Denver over the past couple of years, and they all involved SSRIs. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Yes, and WHY isn't CNN and NBCBSABC et al doing 60 Minutes type specials to shout it from the rooftops, what mayhem these drugs are causing! gertie Re: Homicidal mothers Dera : The web addy for Rob's site is SSRICitizen.org. If you are in communication with The Rutherford Institute you might want to suggest that they look at his information contained on that site. Yates was on high doses of Remeron and a double-maximum dose of Effexor, and just prior to that she had been on Haldol and was abruptly taken off the drug without a wash-out period before being doped on the other two meds. If you looked at the drugs she had been prescribed over the years that she was supposedly suffering from PPD, you start to see that most of what she was experiencing was actually either side effects from the drugs or withdrawal symptoms. was on Prozac at the time she killed her children. There have been very few cases like this where the mother was NOT on psychiatric drugs. We've had several similar cases in Denver over the past couple of years, and they all involved SSRIs. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 In a message dated 10/21/04 6:36:33 AM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > Yes, and WHY isn't CNN and NBCBSABC et al doing 60 Minutes type specials to > shout it from the rooftops, what mayhem these drugs are causing! gertie Because there has been a vast cover-up of these incidents and how they relate to these womens' use of psych meds. The standard response in the papers is " if the person had ONLY been taking their medication as prescribed, this wouldnt have happened. " It's always blamed on the mental illness, as in Yates's case. And remember until just recently Big Pharma consistently denied that these drugs caused suicide or homicide. We now know they have been lying through their teeth for 20 years. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 In a message dated 10/21/04 6:36:33 AM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > Yes, and WHY isn't CNN and NBCBSABC et al doing 60 Minutes type specials to > shout it from the rooftops, what mayhem these drugs are causing! gertie Because there has been a vast cover-up of these incidents and how they relate to these womens' use of psych meds. The standard response in the papers is " if the person had ONLY been taking their medication as prescribed, this wouldnt have happened. " It's always blamed on the mental illness, as in Yates's case. And remember until just recently Big Pharma consistently denied that these drugs caused suicide or homicide. We now know they have been lying through their teeth for 20 years. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Glitter, thanks for the info and will definitely tell them about the website. Could you provide me with links to info about both the Yeats and cases including links to books that would go into more detail about their SSRI drug history? I think it's appalling that they just prosecuted these women and tried them in the public press without bringing this information to the public's attention. I share the view of another post to this group that all the major news networks especially all the programs like " 20-20 " should have been exposing this. Re: Homicidal mothers > > Dera : > The web addy for Rob's site is SSRICitizen.org. If you are in communication > with The Rutherford Institute you might want to suggest that they look at his > information contained on that site. Yates was on high doses of Remeron > and a double-maximum dose of Effexor, and just prior to that she had been on > Haldol and was abruptly taken off the drug without a wash-out period before > being doped on the other two meds. If you looked at the drugs she had been > prescribed over the years that she was supposedly suffering from PPD, you start to > see that most of what she was experiencing was actually either side effects > from the drugs or withdrawal symptoms. was on Prozac at the time > she killed her children. There have been very few cases like this where the > mother was NOT on psychiatric drugs. We've had several similar cases in Denver > over the past couple of years, and they all involved SSRIs. > > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Glitter, thanks for the info and will definitely tell them about the website. Could you provide me with links to info about both the Yeats and cases including links to books that would go into more detail about their SSRI drug history? I think it's appalling that they just prosecuted these women and tried them in the public press without bringing this information to the public's attention. I share the view of another post to this group that all the major news networks especially all the programs like " 20-20 " should have been exposing this. Re: Homicidal mothers > > Dera : > The web addy for Rob's site is SSRICitizen.org. If you are in communication > with The Rutherford Institute you might want to suggest that they look at his > information contained on that site. Yates was on high doses of Remeron > and a double-maximum dose of Effexor, and just prior to that she had been on > Haldol and was abruptly taken off the drug without a wash-out period before > being doped on the other two meds. If you looked at the drugs she had been > prescribed over the years that she was supposedly suffering from PPD, you start to > see that most of what she was experiencing was actually either side effects > from the drugs or withdrawal symptoms. was on Prozac at the time > she killed her children. There have been very few cases like this where the > mother was NOT on psychiatric drugs. We've had several similar cases in Denver > over the past couple of years, and they all involved SSRIs. > > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 In a message dated 10/21/04 9:21:55 PM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > Could you provide me with links to info about both the > Yeats and cases including links to books that would go into more > detail about their SSRI drug history? Ann probably has this info listed on her drugawareness.org site. I don't know of any books off the top of my head that deal with this directly. With so much propaganda about how the illness is the reason these women did what they did, it will probably take some time before these cases are re-examined with a view toward what violent impulses these drugs induced. Heretofore, all the " experts " who testified in these cases were babbling about their mental illnesses and not pointing the wagging finger of blame at the high doses of mind dope they were on. Do you remember the Betty Broderick case? The rich socialite in San Diego who shot her husband and his girlfriend in cold blood. She was on Prozac too and when she describes the incident, you KNOW the state of unreality she was in because of the drug. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Yes, I remember the Betty Broderick case and read the book about it as well as seeing it on Court TV but, with what you told me I may reread it with a fresh eye to her description of the murders. In all this I'm wondering if, based on all the new information that has recently come out these women couldn't seek evidentiary hearings in their cases. You're right that even the experts for the defense in the Yates and cases didn't bring to light what these drugs were doing to these women, which they definitely outght to have! I'll check out Dr. 's site for the info you mentioned. Re: Homicidal mothers > > In a message dated 10/21/04 9:21:55 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > SSRI medications writes: > > > > Could you provide me with links to info about both the > > Yeats and cases including links to books that would go into more > > detail about their SSRI drug history? > > Ann probably has this info listed on her drugawareness.org site. I > don't know of any books off the top of my head that deal with this directly. > With so much propaganda about how the illness is the reason these women did what > they did, it will probably take some time before these cases are re-examined > with a view toward what violent impulses these drugs induced. Heretofore, all > the " experts " who testified in these cases were babbling about their mental > illnesses and not pointing the wagging finger of blame at the high doses of mind > dope they were on. Do you remember the Betty Broderick case? The rich > socialite in San Diego who shot her husband and his girlfriend in cold blood. She > was on Prozac too and when she describes the incident, you KNOW the state of > unreality she was in because of the drug. > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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