Re: OT MASONIC!!! Child Identification Program Marketing MICROCHIPs for

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" Attacking the character of 'one' author who writes a book to prove the

complete innocence of a worldwide politicaly motivated religion makes

me ask a 'lot' of questions. " I didn't say you were. I happen to agree with you that the book is trash. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

you need to reread what I said. The guy is a huckster and the book peddles fear. I am NOT advocating you spend good money on such trash. Kirk

Adrienne o <artnuwa11@...> wrote:

Bravo, well said.

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk.

Could you explain this? - Lemmon

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okay I have one simple question... if somebody is so fearful of their child going missing, why not just create this kit YOURSELF?!

Take your own child's fingerprints, your own child's DNA, your own child's mug shot!

Really now... why would you need a kit with DNA?! You can get your child's DNA from a toothbrush, hair brush, underwear. If your child were to go missing, you'd only have to provide the police with one of those things I mentioned (maybe not underwear but it's a possible example). You really don't need a kit... maybe the fingerprints and mug shot but you could easily do that yourself... why have some stranger do all of that?!

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

you need to reread what I said. The guy is a huckster and the book peddles fear.

I am NOT advocating you spend good money on such trash.

Kirk

Adrienne o <artnuwa11@...> wrote:

Bravo, well said.

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

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okay I have one simple question... if somebody is so fearful of their child going missing, why not just create this kit YOURSELF?!

Take your own child's fingerprints, your own child's DNA, your own child's mug shot!

Really now... why would you need a kit with DNA?! You can get your child's DNA from a toothbrush, hair brush, underwear. If your child were to go missing, you'd only have to provide the police with one of those things I mentioned (maybe not underwear but it's a possible example). You really don't need a kit... maybe the fingerprints and mug shot but you could easily do that yourself... why have some stranger do all of that?!

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

you need to reread what I said. The guy is a huckster and the book peddles fear.

I am NOT advocating you spend good money on such trash.

Kirk

Adrienne o <artnuwa11@...> wrote:

Bravo, well said.

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

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Good point.On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Monika Reign B. <nature.mum@...> wrote:

okay I have one simple question... if somebody is so fearful of their child going missing, why not just create this kit YOURSELF?!

Take your own child's fingerprints, your own child's DNA, your own child's mug shot!

Really now... why would you need a kit with DNA?! You can get your child's DNA from a toothbrush, hair brush, underwear. If your child were to go missing, you'd only have to provide the police with one of those things I mentioned (maybe not underwear but it's a possible example). You really don't need a kit... maybe the fingerprints and mug shot but you could easily do that yourself... why have some stranger do all of that?!

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

you need to reread what I said. The guy is a huckster and the book peddles fear.

I am NOT advocating you spend good money on such trash.

Kirk

Adrienne o <artnuwa11@...> wrote:

Bravo, well said.

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

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Good point.On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Monika Reign B. <nature.mum@...> wrote:

okay I have one simple question... if somebody is so fearful of their child going missing, why not just create this kit YOURSELF?!

Take your own child's fingerprints, your own child's DNA, your own child's mug shot!

Really now... why would you need a kit with DNA?! You can get your child's DNA from a toothbrush, hair brush, underwear. If your child were to go missing, you'd only have to provide the police with one of those things I mentioned (maybe not underwear but it's a possible example). You really don't need a kit... maybe the fingerprints and mug shot but you could easily do that yourself... why have some stranger do all of that?!

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

you need to reread what I said. The guy is a huckster and the book peddles fear.

I am NOT advocating you spend good money on such trash.

Kirk

Adrienne o <artnuwa11@...> wrote:

Bravo, well said.

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

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I say yes each year to the child identification card. There are no computors or

technology scanning the fingerprints the kids simply get their picture taken

then walk over to their card ink their finger and print it on the card. They

card is laminated. The end. They do not swab the inside of their mouth or scan

anything into a computor. I was freaked after reading this thread, but sort of

relieved to find out they don't do all what you guys said. I live in ocean

county, NJ. But this is the last year they do it.

> >>>

> >>> I dread to think how many parents fell for

> that and signed a consent

> >>> form! This " harmless " little

> exercise entails far more than merely taking a

> >>> picture and thumb print of your child:

> >>> Digital fingerprints: a complete set of

> laser-scanned fingerprints

> >>> Recorded interview: to capture speech,

> appearance, mannerism

> >>> Toothprint dental impression

> >>> DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

> >>> Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace

> scent for trained canine

> >>> search

> >>>

> >>> Ingrid

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> I think the title of this is misleading,

> having the word " CHIP " in it--

> >>> which actually stands for *CH*ildhood

> *I*dentification *P*rogram. Years

> >>> ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the

> masons were at the county fairs

> >>> with their booths offering this, which was

> simply taking a picture of your

> >>> child and putting this and his/her thumb print

> on a card with their name and

> >>> address - for identification purposes. And

> this was done free of any

> >>> charge. I actually think this is a good

> thing.

> >>>

> >>> I'm not sure what you are referring to by

> " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you

> >>> explain this?

> >>> - Lemmon

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32

> Antivirus, version of virus

> >>> signature database 3505 (20081008) __________

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> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32

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So why not just do it yourself if it's that simple?On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:08 AM, laura wamsley <laurapiano3@...> wrote:

I say yes each year to the child identification card. There are no computors or technology scanning the fingerprints the kids simply get their picture taken then walk over to their card ink their finger and print it on the card. They card is laminated. The end. They do not swab the inside of their mouth or scan anything into a computor. I was freaked after reading this thread, but sort of relieved to find out they don't do all what you guys said. I live in ocean county, NJ. But this is the last year they do it.

> >>>

> >>> I dread to think how many parents fell for

> that and signed a consent

> >>> form! This " harmless " little

> exercise entails far more than merely taking a

> >>> picture and thumb print of your child:

> >>> Digital fingerprints: a complete set of

> laser-scanned fingerprints

> >>> Recorded interview: to capture speech,

> appearance, mannerism

> >>> Toothprint dental impression

> >>> DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

> >>> Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace

> scent for trained canine

> >>> search

> >>>

> >>> Ingrid

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> I think the title of this is misleading,

> having the word " CHIP " in it--

> >>> which actually stands for *CH*ildhood

> *I*dentification *P*rogram. Years

> >>> ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the

> masons were at the county fairs

> >>> with their booths offering this, which was

> simply taking a picture of your

> >>> child and putting this and his/her thumb print

> on a card with their name and

> >>> address - for identification purposes. And

> this was done free of any

> >>> charge. I actually think this is a good

> thing.

> >>>

> >>> I'm not sure what you are referring to by

> " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you

> >>> explain this?

> >>> - Lemmon

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32

> Antivirus, version of virus

> >>> signature database 3505 (20081008) __________

> >>>

> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32

> Antivirus.

> >>>

> >>> http://www.eset. com

> <http://www.eset.com/>

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