Re: OT MASONIC!!! Child Identification Program Marketing MICROCHIPs for

[Guest guest]

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

[Guest guest]

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

[Guest guest]

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

This is one of the books he sold http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria. Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns. They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows. Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle. The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more. Kirk Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote: I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child: Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago,

when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing. I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this? - Lemmon__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

This is one of the books he sold http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria. Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns. They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows. Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle. The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more. Kirk Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote: I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child: Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago,

when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing. I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this? - Lemmon__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Wow if you think the Freemasons are really concerned with helping parents find their lots children, you are seriously needing some eye-opening. Please do some research on the freemasons, their part in FORCED VACCINATIONS, the Codex, population reduction, and the NWO.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

This is one of the books he sold http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X

fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria. Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns. They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows.

Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle. The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more.

Kirk Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago,

when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Wow if you think the Freemasons are really concerned with helping parents find their lots children, you are seriously needing some eye-opening. Please do some research on the freemasons, their part in FORCED VACCINATIONS, the Codex, population reduction, and the NWO.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

This is one of the books he sold http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X

fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria. Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns. They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows.

Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle. The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more.

Kirk Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago,

when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Wow if you think the Freemasons are really concerned with helping parents find their lots children, you are seriously needing some eye-opening. Please do some research on the freemasons, their part in FORCED VACCINATIONS, the Codex, population reduction, and the NWO.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

This is one of the books he sold http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X

fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria. Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns. They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows.

Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle. The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more.

Kirk Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago,

when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Wow if you think the Freemasons are really concerned with helping parents find their lots children, you are seriously needing some eye-opening. Please do some research on the freemasons, their part in FORCED VACCINATIONS, the Codex, population reduction, and the NWO.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

This is one of the books he sold http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X

fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria. Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns. They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows.

Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle. The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more.

Kirk Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago,

when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Man, Christians will believe everything they're told don't they? The organizations in power must have our best interests in mind. It would be silly to question them. My question is why are they collecting the data? Why don't they just hand the machines over to the police and let them handle it? I don't think I'd want the police collecting my child's information let alone a private religious/political organization like the Masons. That's like giving all your information to a Mosque, Mormons, or Jehova's Witnesses... Or any and all of the other religious organization that I didn't name. If it was a regular Christian Church doing it, people would be furious. My stance has nothing to do with fear. If I let fear rule me, I'd succumb the logic behind this campaign, then I'd go get a bunch of vaccinations and take some Ritalin. It's about personal freedom and responsibility, not letting people lead you around on a leash under the guise of protection.

I'm not defending this book by any means, and from the little of it that I read, it does sound hokey. But what you're saying sounds like the very thing that people say about people who are anti-vaccine. 'You're just trying to sell your product.' I don't think statements like this and claims about the validity of OT books are necessary here. Maybe if you have some evidence that might be helpful to us to minimize our fears, I'd actually be interested to hear it. But it's frustrating to hear people constantly make quips about other beliefs and how absurd they are without any reason to so. Attacking the character of 'one' author who writes a book to prove the complete innocence of a worldwide politicaly motivated religion makes me ask a 'lot' of questions.

Forgive my rant. I like this group, but it's frustrating to constantly hear demeaning comments about someone's beliefs that one might not agree with. I'd like to see everyone be respectful to each other and focus on our purpose here. =) If you want to discuss religion and a disagreement in belief, take it up with someone personally.

~MattOn Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

This is one of the books he sold http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X

fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria. Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns. They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows.

Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle. The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more.

Kirk Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago,

when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Man, Christians will believe everything they're told don't they? The organizations in power must have our best interests in mind. It would be silly to question them. My question is why are they collecting the data? Why don't they just hand the machines over to the police and let them handle it? I don't think I'd want the police collecting my child's information let alone a private religious/political organization like the Masons. That's like giving all your information to a Mosque, Mormons, or Jehova's Witnesses... Or any and all of the other religious organization that I didn't name. If it was a regular Christian Church doing it, people would be furious. My stance has nothing to do with fear. If I let fear rule me, I'd succumb the logic behind this campaign, then I'd go get a bunch of vaccinations and take some Ritalin. It's about personal freedom and responsibility, not letting people lead you around on a leash under the guise of protection.

I'm not defending this book by any means, and from the little of it that I read, it does sound hokey. But what you're saying sounds like the very thing that people say about people who are anti-vaccine. 'You're just trying to sell your product.' I don't think statements like this and claims about the validity of OT books are necessary here. Maybe if you have some evidence that might be helpful to us to minimize our fears, I'd actually be interested to hear it. But it's frustrating to hear people constantly make quips about other beliefs and how absurd they are without any reason to so. Attacking the character of 'one' author who writes a book to prove the complete innocence of a worldwide politicaly motivated religion makes me ask a 'lot' of questions.

Forgive my rant. I like this group, but it's frustrating to constantly hear demeaning comments about someone's beliefs that one might not agree with. I'd like to see everyone be respectful to each other and focus on our purpose here. =) If you want to discuss religion and a disagreement in belief, take it up with someone personally.

~MattOn Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

This is one of the books he sold http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X

fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria. Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns. They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows.

Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle. The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more.

Kirk Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago,

when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Man, Christians will believe everything they're told don't they? The organizations in power must have our best interests in mind. It would be silly to question them. My question is why are they collecting the data? Why don't they just hand the machines over to the police and let them handle it? I don't think I'd want the police collecting my child's information let alone a private religious/political organization like the Masons. That's like giving all your information to a Mosque, Mormons, or Jehova's Witnesses... Or any and all of the other religious organization that I didn't name. If it was a regular Christian Church doing it, people would be furious. My stance has nothing to do with fear. If I let fear rule me, I'd succumb the logic behind this campaign, then I'd go get a bunch of vaccinations and take some Ritalin. It's about personal freedom and responsibility, not letting people lead you around on a leash under the guise of protection.

I'm not defending this book by any means, and from the little of it that I read, it does sound hokey. But what you're saying sounds like the very thing that people say about people who are anti-vaccine. 'You're just trying to sell your product.' I don't think statements like this and claims about the validity of OT books are necessary here. Maybe if you have some evidence that might be helpful to us to minimize our fears, I'd actually be interested to hear it. But it's frustrating to hear people constantly make quips about other beliefs and how absurd they are without any reason to so. Attacking the character of 'one' author who writes a book to prove the complete innocence of a worldwide politicaly motivated religion makes me ask a 'lot' of questions.

Forgive my rant. I like this group, but it's frustrating to constantly hear demeaning comments about someone's beliefs that one might not agree with. I'd like to see everyone be respectful to each other and focus on our purpose here. =) If you want to discuss religion and a disagreement in belief, take it up with someone personally.

~MattOn Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

This is one of the books he sold http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X

fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria. Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns. They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows.

Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle. The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more.

Kirk Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago,

when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Man, Christians will believe everything they're told don't they? The organizations in power must have our best interests in mind. It would be silly to question them. My question is why are they collecting the data? Why don't they just hand the machines over to the police and let them handle it? I don't think I'd want the police collecting my child's information let alone a private religious/political organization like the Masons. That's like giving all your information to a Mosque, Mormons, or Jehova's Witnesses... Or any and all of the other religious organization that I didn't name. If it was a regular Christian Church doing it, people would be furious. My stance has nothing to do with fear. If I let fear rule me, I'd succumb the logic behind this campaign, then I'd go get a bunch of vaccinations and take some Ritalin. It's about personal freedom and responsibility, not letting people lead you around on a leash under the guise of protection.

I'm not defending this book by any means, and from the little of it that I read, it does sound hokey. But what you're saying sounds like the very thing that people say about people who are anti-vaccine. 'You're just trying to sell your product.' I don't think statements like this and claims about the validity of OT books are necessary here. Maybe if you have some evidence that might be helpful to us to minimize our fears, I'd actually be interested to hear it. But it's frustrating to hear people constantly make quips about other beliefs and how absurd they are without any reason to so. Attacking the character of 'one' author who writes a book to prove the complete innocence of a worldwide politicaly motivated religion makes me ask a 'lot' of questions.

Forgive my rant. I like this group, but it's frustrating to constantly hear demeaning comments about someone's beliefs that one might not agree with. I'd like to see everyone be respectful to each other and focus on our purpose here. =) If you want to discuss religion and a disagreement in belief, take it up with someone personally.

~MattOn Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

This is one of the books he sold http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X

fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria. Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns. They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows.

Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle. The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more.

Kirk Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago,

when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon

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[Guest guest]

Bravo, well said.

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com

[Guest guest]

Bravo, well said.

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com

[Guest guest]

Bravo, well said.

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this?

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Bravo, well said.

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this?

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[Guest guest]

Precisely, Monika! Parents also have to sign a consent form! Why, because these shysters are illegally harvesting your child's DNA?!

http://www.gl-mi.org/pdf/michigan-chip.pdf

They also claim that it is a "free" service. But somebody must pay for the equipment, right? And who is the great benefactor and protector of your child? Yep, none other than the STATE!

http://www.nwotruth.com/the-masons-want-your-childs-dna/

"Using small kits, including a built-in computer provided by the STATE program....."

"We don't save any of that information".....As soon as the drawer opens and the CD comes out, the information is erased off of the computer".

Oh really?! Any computer technician can retrieve data allegedly erased from a harddrive.

And how noble of them that "it's not about promoting the Masons or making money (didn't they proclaim that it was a free service?!) but simply helping children" (my foot!)

"We'd love to get into the schools" ....(I bet!) If we can get the money, we'd identify all the children".

Ingrid

Wow if you think the Freemasons are really concerned with helping parents find their lots children, you are seriously needing some eye-opening. Please do some research on the freemasons, their part in FORCED VACCINATIONS, the Codex, population reduction, and the NWO.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

This is one of the books he sold

http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X

fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria.

Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns.

They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows.

Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle.

The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more.

Kirk

Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

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[Guest guest]

Precisely, Monika! Parents also have to sign a consent form! Why, because these shysters are illegally harvesting your child's DNA?!

http://www.gl-mi.org/pdf/michigan-chip.pdf

They also claim that it is a "free" service. But somebody must pay for the equipment, right? And who is the great benefactor and protector of your child? Yep, none other than the STATE!

http://www.nwotruth.com/the-masons-want-your-childs-dna/

"Using small kits, including a built-in computer provided by the STATE program....."

"We don't save any of that information".....As soon as the drawer opens and the CD comes out, the information is erased off of the computer".

Oh really?! Any computer technician can retrieve data allegedly erased from a harddrive.

And how noble of them that "it's not about promoting the Masons or making money (didn't they proclaim that it was a free service?!) but simply helping children" (my foot!)

"We'd love to get into the schools" ....(I bet!) If we can get the money, we'd identify all the children".

Ingrid

Wow if you think the Freemasons are really concerned with helping parents find their lots children, you are seriously needing some eye-opening. Please do some research on the freemasons, their part in FORCED VACCINATIONS, the Codex, population reduction, and the NWO.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

This is one of the books he sold

http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X

fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria.

Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns.

They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows.

Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle.

The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more.

Kirk

Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3507 (20081009) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Precisely, Monika! Parents also have to sign a consent form! Why, because these shysters are illegally harvesting your child's DNA?!

http://www.gl-mi.org/pdf/michigan-chip.pdf

They also claim that it is a "free" service. But somebody must pay for the equipment, right? And who is the great benefactor and protector of your child? Yep, none other than the STATE!

http://www.nwotruth.com/the-masons-want-your-childs-dna/

"Using small kits, including a built-in computer provided by the STATE program....."

"We don't save any of that information".....As soon as the drawer opens and the CD comes out, the information is erased off of the computer".

Oh really?! Any computer technician can retrieve data allegedly erased from a harddrive.

And how noble of them that "it's not about promoting the Masons or making money (didn't they proclaim that it was a free service?!) but simply helping children" (my foot!)

"We'd love to get into the schools" ....(I bet!) If we can get the money, we'd identify all the children".

Ingrid

Wow if you think the Freemasons are really concerned with helping parents find their lots children, you are seriously needing some eye-opening. Please do some research on the freemasons, their part in FORCED VACCINATIONS, the Codex, population reduction, and the NWO.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

This is one of the books he sold

http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X

fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria.

Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns.

They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows.

Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle.

The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more.

Kirk

Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3507 (20081009) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Precisely, Monika! Parents also have to sign a consent form! Why, because these shysters are illegally harvesting your child's DNA?!

http://www.gl-mi.org/pdf/michigan-chip.pdf

They also claim that it is a "free" service. But somebody must pay for the equipment, right? And who is the great benefactor and protector of your child? Yep, none other than the STATE!

http://www.nwotruth.com/the-masons-want-your-childs-dna/

"Using small kits, including a built-in computer provided by the STATE program....."

"We don't save any of that information".....As soon as the drawer opens and the CD comes out, the information is erased off of the computer".

Oh really?! Any computer technician can retrieve data allegedly erased from a harddrive.

And how noble of them that "it's not about promoting the Masons or making money (didn't they proclaim that it was a free service?!) but simply helping children" (my foot!)

"We'd love to get into the schools" ....(I bet!) If we can get the money, we'd identify all the children".

Ingrid

Wow if you think the Freemasons are really concerned with helping parents find their lots children, you are seriously needing some eye-opening. Please do some research on the freemasons, their part in FORCED VACCINATIONS, the Codex, population reduction, and the NWO.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

This is one of the books he sold

http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Dangers-Rainbow-Movement-Barbarism/dp/091031103X

fear will paralyze your thought processes and replace reason with hysteria.

Fear is a terrible master. Sadly there are many hucksters who exploit peoples concerns.

They even network. Some have websites and/or radio shows.

Video sales, books, lectures etc provide them a nice lifestyle.

The object of this forensic data is to help law enforcement. Worst case it helps return a body to their family and thus give closure. Hopefully much much more.

Kirk

Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints

Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression

DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid

I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk. Could you explain this?

- Lemmon__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

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[Guest guest]

you need to reread what I said. The guy is a huckster and the book peddles fear. I am NOT advocating you spend good money on such trash. KirkAdrienne o <artnuwa11@...> wrote: Bravo, well said. I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child: Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing. I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk.

Could you explain this? - Lemmon__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com

[Guest guest]

you need to reread what I said. The guy is a huckster and the book peddles fear. I am NOT advocating you spend good money on such trash. KirkAdrienne o <artnuwa11@...> wrote: Bravo, well said. I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This "harmless" little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child: Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word "CHIP" in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing. I'm not sure what you are referring to by "the rainbow", Kirk.

Could you explain this? - Lemmon__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3505 (20081008) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset. com

[Guest guest]

" Attacking the character of 'one' author who writes a book to prove the

complete innocence of a worldwide politicaly motivated religion makes

me ask a 'lot' of questions. " I didn't say you were. I happen to agree with you that the book is trash. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Kirk McLoren <kirkmcloren@...> wrote:

you need to reread what I said. The guy is a huckster and the book peddles fear. I am NOT advocating you spend good money on such trash. Kirk

Adrienne o <artnuwa11@...> wrote:

Bravo, well said.

I dread to think how many parents fell for that and signed a consent form! This " harmless " little exercise entails far more than merely taking a picture and thumb print of your child:

Digital fingerprints: a complete set of laser-scanned fingerprints Recorded interview: to capture speech, appearance, mannerism

Toothprint dental impression DNA (red flag!) from cheek cells in saliva

Dog scents: saliva provides an exclusive trace scent for trained canine search

Ingrid I think the title of this is misleading, having the word " CHIP " in it-- which actually stands for CHildhood Identification Program. Years ago, when we lived in the Seattle area, the masons were at the county fairs with their booths offering this, which was simply taking a picture of your child and putting this and his/her thumb print on a card with their name and address - for identification purposes. And this was done free of any charge. I actually think this is a good thing.

I'm not sure what you are referring to by " the rainbow " , Kirk.

Could you explain this? - Lemmon

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