Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say " oh well I will just write down that you refused them then " , and that " the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up " . When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. > > australia - In 2006 the NSW government, without > public consultation, implemented mandatory > immunization policies for Health Professionals > (10). The government should be required to > demonstrate a serious risk to the community > without these vaccinations before we lose the > right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327\ #newspost>http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=ye\ s & id=4327#newspost > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/documents/vaccines/Coercive%20and%20Mandatory\ %20Immunisation%2C%20Ethics.pdf>Coercive > and Mandatory Immunisation: > how ethical is this policy? > > Vaccination is a medical procedure for healthy > individuals and not sick individuals. It is a > procedure that injects weakened pathogens and > chemical substances into the tissues of healthy > individuals to produce an antibody response. > > Chronic illness in children has risen > dramatically in the last two decades. In 2004 41% > of 0-14 year olds had a chronic illness (1). > Statistics in Australia indicate there has been a > five-fold increase in life-threatening food > allergies in children in the decade from > 1994-2005 (1). Autism, asthma, learning and > behavioral difficulties and autoimmune diseases > have all increased significantly during this time > (1). This coincides with the government’s push > to increase vaccination rates in Australia to 95% > with the implementation of the Immunize Australia Program in 1993 (2). > > Thiomersal, a mercury compound and neurotoxin was > present in most infant vaccines prior to 2000 > (3). Scientists have known since 1966 that the > adjuvant used in vaccines – aluminium > hydroxide/phosphate – and antibiotics (in > vaccines) cause hypersensitivity reactions in > humans (4). Yet we are injecting antibiotics, > adjuvant, thiomersal and other compounds into the > tissues of infants at the most vulnerable time of their development. > > Many adverse reactions to vaccines occur which > vary in severity amongst individuals due to > genetic factors (5). It is now known that an > individual can be pre-disposed to a disease by > having the gene for that disease but expression > of the gene can depend upon an environmental > factor (6). Factors thought to be responsible for > activating genes include heavy metals, chemicals, > viruses, bacteria, nutrition and emotional states > and stress (6). Many of these triggers are found in vaccines. > > Veterinary scientists have correlated the > increase in autoimmune diseases and sarcomas in > dogs and cats to increased vaccine use (7). > > > Long-term health studies showing the effects of > multiple vaccines in infants have not been done > in humans or animals (2). Greater emphasis is > being placed on short-term epidemiological > studies (statistical) with selective parameters > investigating one vaccine at a time than the > science that includes biological, clinical and > ecological evidence that is showing a possible > link with chronic illness in children (5) (8). In > addition, twentieth century public health > officials did not claim vaccines controlled infectious diseases (9). > > The underlying ethical principle of health > practitioners is to first do no harm. If it is > biologically plausible that using multiple > vaccines in infants and adults could cause > significant harm to a proportion of the > population as a result of genetic predisposition > and epigenetics, then the onus is on policy > makers to provide conclusive evidence to the > contrary before coercive vaccination policies are implemented. > > In 2006 the NSW government, without public > consultation, implemented mandatory immunization > policies for Health Professionals (10). The > government should be required to demonstrate a > serious risk to the community without these > vaccinations before we lose the right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > Precautionary Principle: The burden of proof of > harmlessness of any new technology/chemical is on > the proponent NOT the general public. > > References: > > 1) Australian Government, Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), > iv) 4829.0.55.001 Health of children in Australia: A Snapshot, 2004-05 > 2) Australian Government, Department of Health > and Ageing, Immunise Australia Program 2004. > 3) Kirby, D., 2005, Evidence of Harm: Mercury in > Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical > Controversy, St. ’s Press, New York. > 4) Greville, RW. , 1966, Recent and Future > Development in Immunising Vaccines, The Medical > Journal of Australia, May 21, p. 908. > 5) Commonwealth Department of Health, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), 1954 > – 1986, Report of the Session, No. 338 – 101. > 6) Ravel G, Christ M, Horand F, Descotes J, 2004, > Autoimmunity, environmental exposure and > vaccination: is there a link? , Toxicology, 196(3) : 211-6, Mar 15. > 7) La , W.R., 2002, The Hayward Foundation > Study on Vaccines; a possible etiology of autoimmune diseases. > 8) Commonwealth of Australia, 1991, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), > Immunisation Procedures (fourth edition), > Australian Government Publishing Service, Canberra. > 9) Burnet, M.,1952, The Pattern of Disease in > Childhood, Australasian ls of Medicine, Vol.1, No. 2: p. 93. > 10) NSW Department of Health, Occupational > Assessment, Screening and Vaccination Against > Specified Infectious Diseases, Policy Directive No. PD2007_006 > > Judy Wilyman – PhD candidate > <mailto:j.wilyman@...>j.wilyman@... > Telephone: 9360 2328 > It is dangerous to be right on a subject on which the established > authorities are wrong. ~ Voltaire > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > Vaccines - > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 yes it makes us sick...................but stop going to the doctors then. That is all they know - drugs, vaccines & surgery they are not about health Many have STOPPED seeing peds as the well baby visits are primarily to vaccinate (take it from me, a former peds nurse) And most parents are first to find a problem, not the ped. Once you decide you don't want vaccines, you also will discover you won't want much else peds have to offer - meds, meds and more meds. Many have switched to Naturopaths, Homeopaths, Holistic MD's, or Chiropractors Sometimes Osteopaths are more open; and sometimes Family Practice Doctors Homeopaths - email me for referrals American Association of Naturopathic Physicians 206-298-0126 Referral number: 206-298-0125 www.naturopathic.org American Holistic Medical Association 703-556-9245 www.holisticmedicine.org American Naturopathic Medical Association 702-897-7053 http://anma.net Holistic Pediatric Association 707-237-5312 http://www.hpakids.org Another source is the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association: http://www.icpa4kids.org/locator/index.php If you're not sure about chiropractic and how it may help your child, you can find answers here: http://www.icpa4kids.org/why.htm health care practitioner database on Mothering http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=167 and their forum http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=140 Typing in your town, or nearest major city should get you some good info. AP_Doctor_Referral/ http://www.mothering.com/discussions/ click on finding your tribe Holistic Moms Network http://www.holisticmoms.org/ click on " chapters' in the column on the right of the page Sheri listowner I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say " oh well I will just write down that you refused them then " , and that " the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up " . When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 yes it makes us sick...................but stop going to the doctors then. That is all they know - drugs, vaccines & surgery they are not about health Many have STOPPED seeing peds as the well baby visits are primarily to vaccinate (take it from me, a former peds nurse) And most parents are first to find a problem, not the ped. Once you decide you don't want vaccines, you also will discover you won't want much else peds have to offer - meds, meds and more meds. Many have switched to Naturopaths, Homeopaths, Holistic MD's, or Chiropractors Sometimes Osteopaths are more open; and sometimes Family Practice Doctors Homeopaths - email me for referrals American Association of Naturopathic Physicians 206-298-0126 Referral number: 206-298-0125 www.naturopathic.org American Holistic Medical Association 703-556-9245 www.holisticmedicine.org American Naturopathic Medical Association 702-897-7053 http://anma.net Holistic Pediatric Association 707-237-5312 http://www.hpakids.org Another source is the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association: http://www.icpa4kids.org/locator/index.php If you're not sure about chiropractic and how it may help your child, you can find answers here: http://www.icpa4kids.org/why.htm health care practitioner database on Mothering http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=167 and their forum http://www.mothering.com/discussions/forumdisplay.php?f=140 Typing in your town, or nearest major city should get you some good info. AP_Doctor_Referral/ http://www.mothering.com/discussions/ click on finding your tribe Holistic Moms Network http://www.holisticmoms.org/ click on " chapters' in the column on the right of the page Sheri listowner I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say " oh well I will just write down that you refused them then " , and that " the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up " . When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 right on brotherno-forced-vaccination From: theinfamousmetalmaiden@...Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:17:46 +0000Subject: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say "oh well I will just write down that you refused them then", and that "the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up". When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. > > australia - In 2006 the NSW government, without > public consultation, implemented mandatory > immunization policies for Health Professionals > (10). The government should be required to > demonstrate a serious risk to the community > without these vaccinations before we lose the > right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost>http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/documents/vaccines/Coercive%20and%20Mandatory%20Immunisation%2C%20Ethics.pdf>Coercive > and Mandatory Immunisation: > how ethical is this policy? > > Vaccination is a medical procedure for healthy > individuals and not sick individuals. It is a > procedure that injects weakened pathogens and > chemical substances into the tissues of healthy > individuals to produce an antibody response. > > Chronic illness in children has risen > dramatically in the last two decades. In 2004 41% > of 0-14 year olds had a chronic illness (1). > Statistics in Australia indicate there has been a > five-fold increase in life-threatening food > allergies in children in the decade from > 1994-2005 (1). Autism, asthma, learning and > behavioral difficulties and autoimmune diseases > have all increased significantly during this time > (1). This coincides with the government’s push > to increase vaccination rates in Australia to 95% > with the implementation of the Immunize Australia Program in 1993 (2). > > Thiomersal, a mercury compound and neurotoxin was > present in most infant vaccines prior to 2000 > (3). Scientists have known since 1966 that the > adjuvant used in vaccines – aluminium > hydroxide/phosphate – and antibiotics (in > vaccines) cause hypersensitivity reactions in > humans (4). Yet we are injecting antibiotics, > adjuvant, thiomersal and other compounds into the > tissues of infants at the most vulnerable time of their development. > > Many adverse reactions to vaccines occur which > vary in severity amongst individuals due to > genetic factors (5). It is now known that an > individual can be pre-disposed to a disease by > having the gene for that disease but expression > of the gene can depend upon an environmental > factor (6). Factors thought to be responsible for > activating genes include heavy metals, chemicals, > viruses, bacteria, nutrition and emotional states > and stress (6). Many of these triggers are found in vaccines. > > Veterinary scientists have correlated the > increase in autoimmune diseases and sarcomas in > dogs and cats to increased vaccine use (7). > > > Long-term health studies showing the effects of > multiple vaccines in infants have not been done > in humans or animals (2). Greater emphasis is > being placed on short-term epidemiological > studies (statistical) with selective parameters > investigating one vaccine at a time than the > science that includes biological, clinical and > ecological evidence that is showing a possible > link with chronic illness in children (5) (8). In > addition, twentieth century public health > officials did not claim vaccines controlled infectious diseases (9). > > The underlying ethical principle of health > practitioners is to first do no harm. If it is > biologically plausible that using multiple > vaccines in infants and adults could cause > significant harm to a proportion of the > population as a result of genetic predisposition > and epigenetics, then the onus is on policy > makers to provide conclusive evidence to the > contrary before coercive vaccination policies are implemented. > > In 2006 the NSW government, without public > consultation, implemented mandatory immunization > policies for Health Professionals (10). The > government should be required to demonstrate a > serious risk to the community without these > vaccinations before we lose the right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > Precautionary Principle: The burden of proof of > harmlessness of any new technology/chemical is on > the proponent NOT the general public. > > References: > > 1) Australian Government, Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), > iv) 4829.0.55.001 Health of children in Australia: A Snapshot, 2004-05 > 2) Australian Government, Department of Health > and Ageing, Immunise Australia Program 2004. > 3) Kirby, D., 2005, Evidence of Harm: Mercury in > Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical > Controversy, St. ’s Press, New York. > 4) Greville, RW. , 1966, Recent and Future > Development in Immunising Vaccines, The Medical > Journal of Australia, May 21, p. 908. > 5) Commonwealth Department of Health, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), 1954 > – 1986, Report of the Session, No. 338 – 101. > 6) Ravel G, Christ M, Horand F, Descotes J, 2004, > Autoimmunity, environmental exposure and > vaccination: is there a link? , Toxicology, 196(3) : 211-6, Mar 15. > 7) La , W.R., 2002, The Hayward Foundation > Study on Vaccines; a possible etiology of autoimmune diseases. > 8) Commonwealth of Australia, 1991, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), > Immunisation Procedures (fourth edition), > Australian Government Publishing Service, Canberra. > 9) Burnet, M.,1952, The Pattern of Disease in > Childhood, Australasian ls of Medicine, Vol.1, No. 2: p. 93. > 10) NSW Department of Health, Occupational > Assessment, Screening and Vaccination Against > Specified Infectious Diseases, Policy Directive No. PD2007_006 > > Judy Wilyman – PhD candidate > <mailto:j.wilyman@...>j.wilyman@... > Telephone: 9360 2328 > It is dangerous to be right on a subject on which the established > authorities are wrong. ~ Voltaire > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > Vaccines - > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 right on brotherno-forced-vaccination From: theinfamousmetalmaiden@...Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:17:46 +0000Subject: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say "oh well I will just write down that you refused them then", and that "the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up". When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. > > australia - In 2006 the NSW government, without > public consultation, implemented mandatory > immunization policies for Health Professionals > (10). The government should be required to > demonstrate a serious risk to the community > without these vaccinations before we lose the > right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost>http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/documents/vaccines/Coercive%20and%20Mandatory%20Immunisation%2C%20Ethics.pdf>Coercive > and Mandatory Immunisation: > how ethical is this policy? > > Vaccination is a medical procedure for healthy > individuals and not sick individuals. It is a > procedure that injects weakened pathogens and > chemical substances into the tissues of healthy > individuals to produce an antibody response. > > Chronic illness in children has risen > dramatically in the last two decades. In 2004 41% > of 0-14 year olds had a chronic illness (1). > Statistics in Australia indicate there has been a > five-fold increase in life-threatening food > allergies in children in the decade from > 1994-2005 (1). Autism, asthma, learning and > behavioral difficulties and autoimmune diseases > have all increased significantly during this time > (1). This coincides with the government’s push > to increase vaccination rates in Australia to 95% > with the implementation of the Immunize Australia Program in 1993 (2). > > Thiomersal, a mercury compound and neurotoxin was > present in most infant vaccines prior to 2000 > (3). Scientists have known since 1966 that the > adjuvant used in vaccines – aluminium > hydroxide/phosphate – and antibiotics (in > vaccines) cause hypersensitivity reactions in > humans (4). Yet we are injecting antibiotics, > adjuvant, thiomersal and other compounds into the > tissues of infants at the most vulnerable time of their development. > > Many adverse reactions to vaccines occur which > vary in severity amongst individuals due to > genetic factors (5). It is now known that an > individual can be pre-disposed to a disease by > having the gene for that disease but expression > of the gene can depend upon an environmental > factor (6). Factors thought to be responsible for > activating genes include heavy metals, chemicals, > viruses, bacteria, nutrition and emotional states > and stress (6). Many of these triggers are found in vaccines. > > Veterinary scientists have correlated the > increase in autoimmune diseases and sarcomas in > dogs and cats to increased vaccine use (7). > > > Long-term health studies showing the effects of > multiple vaccines in infants have not been done > in humans or animals (2). Greater emphasis is > being placed on short-term epidemiological > studies (statistical) with selective parameters > investigating one vaccine at a time than the > science that includes biological, clinical and > ecological evidence that is showing a possible > link with chronic illness in children (5) (8). In > addition, twentieth century public health > officials did not claim vaccines controlled infectious diseases (9). > > The underlying ethical principle of health > practitioners is to first do no harm. If it is > biologically plausible that using multiple > vaccines in infants and adults could cause > significant harm to a proportion of the > population as a result of genetic predisposition > and epigenetics, then the onus is on policy > makers to provide conclusive evidence to the > contrary before coercive vaccination policies are implemented. > > In 2006 the NSW government, without public > consultation, implemented mandatory immunization > policies for Health Professionals (10). The > government should be required to demonstrate a > serious risk to the community without these > vaccinations before we lose the right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > Precautionary Principle: The burden of proof of > harmlessness of any new technology/chemical is on > the proponent NOT the general public. > > References: > > 1) Australian Government, Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), > iv) 4829.0.55.001 Health of children in Australia: A Snapshot, 2004-05 > 2) Australian Government, Department of Health > and Ageing, Immunise Australia Program 2004. > 3) Kirby, D., 2005, Evidence of Harm: Mercury in > Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical > Controversy, St. ’s Press, New York. > 4) Greville, RW. , 1966, Recent and Future > Development in Immunising Vaccines, The Medical > Journal of Australia, May 21, p. 908. > 5) Commonwealth Department of Health, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), 1954 > – 1986, Report of the Session, No. 338 – 101. > 6) Ravel G, Christ M, Horand F, Descotes J, 2004, > Autoimmunity, environmental exposure and > vaccination: is there a link? , Toxicology, 196(3) : 211-6, Mar 15. > 7) La , W.R., 2002, The Hayward Foundation > Study on Vaccines; a possible etiology of autoimmune diseases. > 8) Commonwealth of Australia, 1991, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), > Immunisation Procedures (fourth edition), > Australian Government Publishing Service, Canberra. > 9) Burnet, M.,1952, The Pattern of Disease in > Childhood, Australasian ls of Medicine, Vol.1, No. 2: p. 93. > 10) NSW Department of Health, Occupational > Assessment, Screening and Vaccination Against > Specified Infectious Diseases, Policy Directive No. PD2007_006 > > Judy Wilyman – PhD candidate > <mailto:j.wilyman@...>j.wilyman@... > Telephone: 9360 2328 > It is dangerous to be right on a subject on which the established > authorities are wrong. ~ Voltaire > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > Vaccines - > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Females beware of Gardisil!Barbara M. I would rather live believing/knowing there is a God and be welcomedinto heaven than not believe and find out differently when I die no-forced-vaccination From: david-ihben@...Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:01:20 -0500Subject: RE: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? right on brother no-forced-vaccination From: theinfamousmetalmaiden Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:17:46 +0000Subject: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say "oh well I will just write down that you refused them then", and that "the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up". When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. >> australia - In 2006 the NSW government, without > public consultation, implemented mandatory > immunization policies for Health Professionals > (10). The government should be required to > demonstrate a serious risk to the community > without these vaccinations before we lose the > right to decide what we inject into our bodies.> > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost>http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost> > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/documents/vaccines/Coercive%20and%20Mandatory%20Immunisation%2C%20Ethics.pdf>Coercive > and Mandatory Immunisation:> how ethical is this policy?> > Vaccination is a medical procedure for healthy > individuals and not sick individuals. It is a > procedure that injects weakened pathogens and > chemical substances into the tissues of healthy > individuals to produce an antibody response.> > Chronic illness in children has risen > dramatically in the last two decades. In 2004 41% > of 0-14 year olds had a chronic illness (1). > Statistics in Australia indicate there has been a > five-fold increase in life-threatening food > allergies in children in the decade from > 1994-2005 (1). Autism, asthma, learning and > behavioral difficulties and autoimmune diseases > have all increased significantly during this time > (1). This coincides with the government’s push > to increase vaccination rates in Australia to 95% > with the implementation of the Immunize Australia Program in 1993 (2).> > Thiomersal, a mercury compound and neurotoxin was > present in most infant vaccines prior to 2000 > (3). Scientists have known since 1966 that the > adjuvant used in vaccines – aluminium > hydroxide/phosphate – and antibiotics (in > vaccines) cause hypersensitivity reactions in > humans (4). Yet we are injecting antibiotics, > adjuvant, thiomersal and other compounds into the > tissues of infants at the most vulnerable time of their development.> > Many adverse reactions to vaccines occur which > vary in severity amongst individuals due to > genetic factors (5). It is now known that an > individual can be pre-disposed to a disease by > having the gene for that disease but expression > of the gene can depend upon an environmental > factor (6). Factors thought to be responsible for > activating genes include heavy metals, chemicals, > viruses, bacteria, nutrition and emotional states > and stress (6). Many of these triggers are found in vaccines.> > Veterinary scientists have correlated the > increase in autoimmune diseases and sarcomas in > dogs and cats to increased vaccine use (7).> > > Long-term health studies showing the effects of > multiple vaccines in infants have not been done > in humans or animals (2). Greater emphasis is > being placed on short-term epidemiological > studies (statistical) with selective parameters > investigating one vaccine at a time than the > science that includes biological, clinical and > ecological evidence that is showing a possible > link with chronic illness in children (5) (8). In > addition, twentieth century public health > officials did not claim vaccines controlled infectious diseases (9).> > The underlying ethical principle of health > practitioners is to first do no harm. If it is > biologically plausible that using multiple > vaccines in infants and adults could cause > significant harm to a proportion of the > population as a result of genetic predisposition > and epigenetics, then the onus is on policy > makers to provide conclusive evidence to the > contrary before coercive vaccination policies are implemented.> > In 2006 the NSW government, without public > consultation, implemented mandatory immunization > policies for Health Professionals (10). The > government should be required to demonstrate a > serious risk to the community without these > vaccinations before we lose the right to decide what we inject into our bodies.> > Precautionary Principle: The burden of proof of > harmlessness of any new technology/chemical is on > the proponent NOT the general public.> > References:> > 1) Australian Government, Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS),> iv) 4829.0.55.001 Health of children in Australia: A Snapshot, 2004-05> 2) Australian Government, Department of Health > and Ageing, Immunise Australia Program 2004.> 3) Kirby, D., 2005, Evidence of Harm: Mercury in > Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical > Controversy, St. ’s Press, New York.> 4) Greville, RW. , 1966, Recent and Future > Development in Immunising Vaccines, The Medical > Journal of Australia, May 21, p. 908.> 5) Commonwealth Department of Health, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), 1954 > – 1986, Report of the Session, No. 338 – 101.> 6) Ravel G, Christ M, Horand F, Descotes J, 2004, > Autoimmunity, environmental exposure and > vaccination: is there a link? , Toxicology, 196(3) : 211-6, Mar 15.> 7) La , W.R., 2002, The Hayward Foundation > Study on Vaccines; a possible etiology of autoimmune diseases.> 8) Commonwealth of Australia, 1991, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), > Immunisation Procedures (fourth edition), > Australian Government Publishing Service, Canberra.> 9) Burnet, M.,1952, The Pattern of Disease in > Childhood, Australasian ls of Medicine, Vol.1, No. 2: p. 93.> 10) NSW Department of Health, Occupational > Assessment, Screening and Vaccination Against > Specified Infectious Diseases, Policy Directive No. PD2007_006> > Judy Wilyman – PhD candidate> <mailto:j.wilyman@...>j.wilyman@...> Telephone: 9360 2328> It is dangerous to be right on a subject on which the established> authorities are wrong. ~ Voltaire> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA> Vaccines - > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com> Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Females beware of Gardisil!Barbara M. I would rather live believing/knowing there is a God and be welcomedinto heaven than not believe and find out differently when I die no-forced-vaccination From: david-ihben@...Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:01:20 -0500Subject: RE: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? right on brother no-forced-vaccination From: theinfamousmetalmaiden Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:17:46 +0000Subject: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say "oh well I will just write down that you refused them then", and that "the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up". When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. >> australia - In 2006 the NSW government, without > public consultation, implemented mandatory > immunization policies for Health Professionals > (10). The government should be required to > demonstrate a serious risk to the community > without these vaccinations before we lose the > right to decide what we inject into our bodies.> > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost>http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost> > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/documents/vaccines/Coercive%20and%20Mandatory%20Immunisation%2C%20Ethics.pdf>Coercive > and Mandatory Immunisation:> how ethical is this policy?> > Vaccination is a medical procedure for healthy > individuals and not sick individuals. It is a > procedure that injects weakened pathogens and > chemical substances into the tissues of healthy > individuals to produce an antibody response.> > Chronic illness in children has risen > dramatically in the last two decades. In 2004 41% > of 0-14 year olds had a chronic illness (1). > Statistics in Australia indicate there has been a > five-fold increase in life-threatening food > allergies in children in the decade from > 1994-2005 (1). Autism, asthma, learning and > behavioral difficulties and autoimmune diseases > have all increased significantly during this time > (1). This coincides with the government’s push > to increase vaccination rates in Australia to 95% > with the implementation of the Immunize Australia Program in 1993 (2).> > Thiomersal, a mercury compound and neurotoxin was > present in most infant vaccines prior to 2000 > (3). Scientists have known since 1966 that the > adjuvant used in vaccines – aluminium > hydroxide/phosphate – and antibiotics (in > vaccines) cause hypersensitivity reactions in > humans (4). Yet we are injecting antibiotics, > adjuvant, thiomersal and other compounds into the > tissues of infants at the most vulnerable time of their development.> > Many adverse reactions to vaccines occur which > vary in severity amongst individuals due to > genetic factors (5). It is now known that an > individual can be pre-disposed to a disease by > having the gene for that disease but expression > of the gene can depend upon an environmental > factor (6). Factors thought to be responsible for > activating genes include heavy metals, chemicals, > viruses, bacteria, nutrition and emotional states > and stress (6). Many of these triggers are found in vaccines.> > Veterinary scientists have correlated the > increase in autoimmune diseases and sarcomas in > dogs and cats to increased vaccine use (7).> > > Long-term health studies showing the effects of > multiple vaccines in infants have not been done > in humans or animals (2). Greater emphasis is > being placed on short-term epidemiological > studies (statistical) with selective parameters > investigating one vaccine at a time than the > science that includes biological, clinical and > ecological evidence that is showing a possible > link with chronic illness in children (5) (8). In > addition, twentieth century public health > officials did not claim vaccines controlled infectious diseases (9).> > The underlying ethical principle of health > practitioners is to first do no harm. If it is > biologically plausible that using multiple > vaccines in infants and adults could cause > significant harm to a proportion of the > population as a result of genetic predisposition > and epigenetics, then the onus is on policy > makers to provide conclusive evidence to the > contrary before coercive vaccination policies are implemented.> > In 2006 the NSW government, without public > consultation, implemented mandatory immunization > policies for Health Professionals (10). The > government should be required to demonstrate a > serious risk to the community without these > vaccinations before we lose the right to decide what we inject into our bodies.> > Precautionary Principle: The burden of proof of > harmlessness of any new technology/chemical is on > the proponent NOT the general public.> > References:> > 1) Australian Government, Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS),> iv) 4829.0.55.001 Health of children in Australia: A Snapshot, 2004-05> 2) Australian Government, Department of Health > and Ageing, Immunise Australia Program 2004.> 3) Kirby, D., 2005, Evidence of Harm: Mercury in > Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical > Controversy, St. ’s Press, New York.> 4) Greville, RW. , 1966, Recent and Future > Development in Immunising Vaccines, The Medical > Journal of Australia, May 21, p. 908.> 5) Commonwealth Department of Health, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), 1954 > – 1986, Report of the Session, No. 338 – 101.> 6) Ravel G, Christ M, Horand F, Descotes J, 2004, > Autoimmunity, environmental exposure and > vaccination: is there a link? , Toxicology, 196(3) : 211-6, Mar 15.> 7) La , W.R., 2002, The Hayward Foundation > Study on Vaccines; a possible etiology of autoimmune diseases.> 8) Commonwealth of Australia, 1991, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), > Immunisation Procedures (fourth edition), > Australian Government Publishing Service, Canberra.> 9) Burnet, M.,1952, The Pattern of Disease in > Childhood, Australasian ls of Medicine, Vol.1, No. 2: p. 93.> 10) NSW Department of Health, Occupational > Assessment, Screening and Vaccination Against > Specified Infectious Diseases, Policy Directive No. PD2007_006> > Judy Wilyman – PhD candidate> <mailto:j.wilyman@...>j.wilyman@...> Telephone: 9360 2328> It is dangerous to be right on a subject on which the established> authorities are wrong. ~ Voltaire> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA> Vaccines - > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com> Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Females beware of Gardisil!Barbara M. I would rather live believing/knowing there is a God and be welcomedinto heaven than not believe and find out differently when I die no-forced-vaccination From: david-ihben@...Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:01:20 -0500Subject: RE: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? right on brother no-forced-vaccination From: theinfamousmetalmaiden Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:17:46 +0000Subject: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say "oh well I will just write down that you refused them then", and that "the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up". When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. >> australia - In 2006 the NSW government, without > public consultation, implemented mandatory > immunization policies for Health Professionals > (10). The government should be required to > demonstrate a serious risk to the community > without these vaccinations before we lose the > right to decide what we inject into our bodies.> > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost>http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost> > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/documents/vaccines/Coercive%20and%20Mandatory%20Immunisation%2C%20Ethics.pdf>Coercive > and Mandatory Immunisation:> how ethical is this policy?> > Vaccination is a medical procedure for healthy > individuals and not sick individuals. It is a > procedure that injects weakened pathogens and > chemical substances into the tissues of healthy > individuals to produce an antibody response.> > Chronic illness in children has risen > dramatically in the last two decades. In 2004 41% > of 0-14 year olds had a chronic illness (1). > Statistics in Australia indicate there has been a > five-fold increase in life-threatening food > allergies in children in the decade from > 1994-2005 (1). Autism, asthma, learning and > behavioral difficulties and autoimmune diseases > have all increased significantly during this time > (1). This coincides with the government’s push > to increase vaccination rates in Australia to 95% > with the implementation of the Immunize Australia Program in 1993 (2).> > Thiomersal, a mercury compound and neurotoxin was > present in most infant vaccines prior to 2000 > (3). Scientists have known since 1966 that the > adjuvant used in vaccines – aluminium > hydroxide/phosphate – and antibiotics (in > vaccines) cause hypersensitivity reactions in > humans (4). Yet we are injecting antibiotics, > adjuvant, thiomersal and other compounds into the > tissues of infants at the most vulnerable time of their development.> > Many adverse reactions to vaccines occur which > vary in severity amongst individuals due to > genetic factors (5). It is now known that an > individual can be pre-disposed to a disease by > having the gene for that disease but expression > of the gene can depend upon an environmental > factor (6). Factors thought to be responsible for > activating genes include heavy metals, chemicals, > viruses, bacteria, nutrition and emotional states > and stress (6). Many of these triggers are found in vaccines.> > Veterinary scientists have correlated the > increase in autoimmune diseases and sarcomas in > dogs and cats to increased vaccine use (7).> > > Long-term health studies showing the effects of > multiple vaccines in infants have not been done > in humans or animals (2). Greater emphasis is > being placed on short-term epidemiological > studies (statistical) with selective parameters > investigating one vaccine at a time than the > science that includes biological, clinical and > ecological evidence that is showing a possible > link with chronic illness in children (5) (8). In > addition, twentieth century public health > officials did not claim vaccines controlled infectious diseases (9).> > The underlying ethical principle of health > practitioners is to first do no harm. If it is > biologically plausible that using multiple > vaccines in infants and adults could cause > significant harm to a proportion of the > population as a result of genetic predisposition > and epigenetics, then the onus is on policy > makers to provide conclusive evidence to the > contrary before coercive vaccination policies are implemented.> > In 2006 the NSW government, without public > consultation, implemented mandatory immunization > policies for Health Professionals (10). The > government should be required to demonstrate a > serious risk to the community without these > vaccinations before we lose the right to decide what we inject into our bodies.> > Precautionary Principle: The burden of proof of > harmlessness of any new technology/chemical is on > the proponent NOT the general public.> > References:> > 1) Australian Government, Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS),> iv) 4829.0.55.001 Health of children in Australia: A Snapshot, 2004-05> 2) Australian Government, Department of Health > and Ageing, Immunise Australia Program 2004.> 3) Kirby, D., 2005, Evidence of Harm: Mercury in > Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical > Controversy, St. ’s Press, New York.> 4) Greville, RW. , 1966, Recent and Future > Development in Immunising Vaccines, The Medical > Journal of Australia, May 21, p. 908.> 5) Commonwealth Department of Health, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), 1954 > – 1986, Report of the Session, No. 338 – 101.> 6) Ravel G, Christ M, Horand F, Descotes J, 2004, > Autoimmunity, environmental exposure and > vaccination: is there a link? , Toxicology, 196(3) : 211-6, Mar 15.> 7) La , W.R., 2002, The Hayward Foundation > Study on Vaccines; a possible etiology of autoimmune diseases.> 8) Commonwealth of Australia, 1991, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), > Immunisation Procedures (fourth edition), > Australian Government Publishing Service, Canberra.> 9) Burnet, M.,1952, The Pattern of Disease in > Childhood, Australasian ls of Medicine, Vol.1, No. 2: p. 93.> 10) NSW Department of Health, Occupational > Assessment, Screening and Vaccination Against > Specified Infectious Diseases, Policy Directive No. PD2007_006> > Judy Wilyman – PhD candidate> <mailto:j.wilyman@...>j.wilyman@...> Telephone: 9360 2328> It is dangerous to be right on a subject on which the established> authorities are wrong. ~ Voltaire> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA> Vaccines - > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com> Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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Guest guest Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Females beware of Gardisil!Barbara M. I would rather live believing/knowing there is a God and be welcomedinto heaven than not believe and find out differently when I die no-forced-vaccination From: david-ihben@...Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:01:20 -0500Subject: RE: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? right on brother no-forced-vaccination From: theinfamousmetalmaiden Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:17:46 +0000Subject: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say "oh well I will just write down that you refused them then", and that "the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up". When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. >> australia - In 2006 the NSW government, without > public consultation, implemented mandatory > immunization policies for Health Professionals > (10). The government should be required to > demonstrate a serious risk to the community > without these vaccinations before we lose the > right to decide what we inject into our bodies.> > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost>http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost> > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/documents/vaccines/Coercive%20and%20Mandatory%20Immunisation%2C%20Ethics.pdf>Coercive > and Mandatory Immunisation:> how ethical is this policy?> > Vaccination is a medical procedure for healthy > individuals and not sick individuals. It is a > procedure that injects weakened pathogens and > chemical substances into the tissues of healthy > individuals to produce an antibody response.> > Chronic illness in children has risen > dramatically in the last two decades. In 2004 41% > of 0-14 year olds had a chronic illness (1). > Statistics in Australia indicate there has been a > five-fold increase in life-threatening food > allergies in children in the decade from > 1994-2005 (1). Autism, asthma, learning and > behavioral difficulties and autoimmune diseases > have all increased significantly during this time > (1). This coincides with the government’s push > to increase vaccination rates in Australia to 95% > with the implementation of the Immunize Australia Program in 1993 (2).> > Thiomersal, a mercury compound and neurotoxin was > present in most infant vaccines prior to 2000 > (3). Scientists have known since 1966 that the > adjuvant used in vaccines – aluminium > hydroxide/phosphate – and antibiotics (in > vaccines) cause hypersensitivity reactions in > humans (4). Yet we are injecting antibiotics, > adjuvant, thiomersal and other compounds into the > tissues of infants at the most vulnerable time of their development.> > Many adverse reactions to vaccines occur which > vary in severity amongst individuals due to > genetic factors (5). It is now known that an > individual can be pre-disposed to a disease by > having the gene for that disease but expression > of the gene can depend upon an environmental > factor (6). Factors thought to be responsible for > activating genes include heavy metals, chemicals, > viruses, bacteria, nutrition and emotional states > and stress (6). Many of these triggers are found in vaccines.> > Veterinary scientists have correlated the > increase in autoimmune diseases and sarcomas in > dogs and cats to increased vaccine use (7).> > > Long-term health studies showing the effects of > multiple vaccines in infants have not been done > in humans or animals (2). Greater emphasis is > being placed on short-term epidemiological > studies (statistical) with selective parameters > investigating one vaccine at a time than the > science that includes biological, clinical and > ecological evidence that is showing a possible > link with chronic illness in children (5) (8). In > addition, twentieth century public health > officials did not claim vaccines controlled infectious diseases (9).> > The underlying ethical principle of health > practitioners is to first do no harm. If it is > biologically plausible that using multiple > vaccines in infants and adults could cause > significant harm to a proportion of the > population as a result of genetic predisposition > and epigenetics, then the onus is on policy > makers to provide conclusive evidence to the > contrary before coercive vaccination policies are implemented.> > In 2006 the NSW government, without public > consultation, implemented mandatory immunization > policies for Health Professionals (10). The > government should be required to demonstrate a > serious risk to the community without these > vaccinations before we lose the right to decide what we inject into our bodies.> > Precautionary Principle: The burden of proof of > harmlessness of any new technology/chemical is on > the proponent NOT the general public.> > References:> > 1) Australian Government, Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS),> iv) 4829.0.55.001 Health of children in Australia: A Snapshot, 2004-05> 2) Australian Government, Department of Health > and Ageing, Immunise Australia Program 2004.> 3) Kirby, D., 2005, Evidence of Harm: Mercury in > Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical > Controversy, St. ’s Press, New York.> 4) Greville, RW. , 1966, Recent and Future > Development in Immunising Vaccines, The Medical > Journal of Australia, May 21, p. 908.> 5) Commonwealth Department of Health, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), 1954 > – 1986, Report of the Session, No. 338 – 101.> 6) Ravel G, Christ M, Horand F, Descotes J, 2004, > Autoimmunity, environmental exposure and > vaccination: is there a link? , Toxicology, 196(3) : 211-6, Mar 15.> 7) La , W.R., 2002, The Hayward Foundation > Study on Vaccines; a possible etiology of autoimmune diseases.> 8) Commonwealth of Australia, 1991, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), > Immunisation Procedures (fourth edition), > Australian Government Publishing Service, Canberra.> 9) Burnet, M.,1952, The Pattern of Disease in > Childhood, Australasian ls of Medicine, Vol.1, No. 2: p. 93.> 10) NSW Department of Health, Occupational > Assessment, Screening and Vaccination Against > Specified Infectious Diseases, Policy Directive No. PD2007_006> > Judy Wilyman – PhD candidate> <mailto:j.wilyman@...>j.wilyman@...> Telephone: 9360 2328> It is dangerous to be right on a subject on which the established> authorities are wrong. ~ Voltaire> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA> Vaccines - > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com> Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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Guest guest Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 And---Moms protect your (young) sons, as well!!! FDA, CDC, AAP, and Big PhARMA Marketing Departments are revving up the ad campaigns to get your sons vaccinated with this toxic brew, too!!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of Andee Kleinhans Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:01 AM no-forced-vaccination Subject: RE: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? Females beware of Gardisil! Barbara M. I would rather live believing/knowing there is a God and be welcomed into heaven than not believe and find out differently when I die no-forced-vaccination From: david-ihbenhotmail Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:01:20 -0500 Subject: RE: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? right on brother no-forced-vaccination From: theinfamousmetalmaiden Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:17:46 +0000 Subject: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say " oh well I will just write down that you refused them then " , and that " the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up " . When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. > > australia - In 2006 the NSW government, without > public consultation, implemented mandatory > immunization policies for Health Professionals > (10). The government should be required to > demonstrate a serious risk to the community > without these vaccinations before we lose the > right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost>http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/documents/vaccines/Coercive%20and%20Mandatory%20Immunisation%2C%20Ethics.pdf>Coercive > and Mandatory Immunisation: > how ethical is this policy? > > Vaccination is a medical procedure for healthy > individuals and not sick individuals. It is a > procedure that injects weakened pathogens and > chemical substances into the tissues of healthy > individuals to produce an antibody response. > > Chronic illness in children has risen > dramatically in the last two decades. In 2004 41% > of 0-14 year olds had a chronic illness (1). > Statistics in Australia indicate there has been a > five-fold increase in life-threatening food > allergies in children in the decade from > 1994-2005 (1). Autism, asthma, learning and > behavioral difficulties and autoimmune diseases > have all increased significantly during this time > (1). This coincides with the government’s push > to increase vaccination rates in Australia to 95% > with the implementation of the Immunize Australia Program in 1993 (2). > > Thiomersal, a mercury compound and neurotoxin was > present in most infant vaccines prior to 2000 > (3). Scientists have known since 1966 that the > adjuvant used in vaccines – aluminium > hydroxide/phosphate – and antibiotics (in > vaccines) cause hypersensitivity reactions in > humans (4). Yet we are injecting antibiotics, > adjuvant, thiomersal and other compounds into the > tissues of infants at the most vulnerable time of their development. > > Many adverse reactions to vaccines occur which > vary in severity amongst individuals due to > genetic factors (5). It is now known that an > individual can be pre-disposed to a disease by > having the gene for that disease but expression > of the gene can depend upon an environmental > factor (6). Factors thought to be responsible for > activating genes include heavy metals, chemicals, > viruses, bacteria, nutrition and emotional states > and stress (6). Many of these triggers are found in vaccines. > > Veterinary scientists have correlated the > increase in autoimmune diseases and sarcomas in > dogs and cats to increased vaccine use (7). > > > Long-term health studies showing the effects of > multiple vaccines in infants have not been done > in humans or animals (2). Greater emphasis is > being placed on short-term epidemiological > studies (statistical) with selective parameters > investigating one vaccine at a time than the > science that includes biological, clinical and > ecological evidence that is showing a possible > link with chronic illness in children (5) (8). In > addition, twentieth century public health > officials did not claim vaccines controlled infectious diseases (9). > > The underlying ethical principle of health > practitioners is to first do no harm. If it is > biologically plausible that using multiple > vaccines in infants and adults could cause > significant harm to a proportion of the > population as a result of genetic predisposition > and epigenetics, then the onus is on policy > makers to provide conclusive evidence to the > contrary before coercive vaccination policies are implemented. > > In 2006 the NSW government, without public > consultation, implemented mandatory immunization > policies for Health Professionals (10). The > government should be required to demonstrate a > serious risk to the community without these > vaccinations before we lose the right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > Precautionary Principle: The burden of proof of > harmlessness of any new technology/chemical is on > the proponent NOT the general public. > > References: > > 1) Australian Government, Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), > iv) 4829.0.55.001 Health of children in Australia: A Snapshot, 2004-05 > 2) Australian Government, Department of Health > and Ageing, Immunise Australia Program 2004. > 3) Kirby, D., 2005, Evidence of Harm: Mercury in > Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical > Controversy, St. ’s Press, New York. > 4) Greville, RW. , 1966, Recent and Future > Development in Immunising Vaccines, The Medical > Journal of Australia, May 21, p. 908. > 5) Commonwealth Department of Health, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), 1954 > – 1986, Report of the Session, No. 338 – 101. > 6) Ravel G, Christ M, Horand F, Descotes J, 2004, > Autoimmunity, environmental exposure and > vaccination: is there a link? , Toxicology, 196(3) : 211-6, Mar 15. > 7) La , W.R., 2002, The Hayward Foundation > Study on Vaccines; a possible etiology of autoimmune diseases. > 8) Commonwealth of Australia, 1991, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), > Immunisation Procedures (fourth edition), > Australian Government Publishing Service, Canberra. > 9) Burnet, M.,1952, The Pattern of Disease in > Childhood, Australasian ls of Medicine, Vol.1, No. 2: p. 93. > 10) NSW Department of Health, Occupational > Assessment, Screening and Vaccination Against > Specified Infectious Diseases, Policy Directive No. PD2007_006 > > Judy Wilyman – PhD candidate > <mailto:j.wilyman@...>j.wilyman@... > Telephone: 9360 2328 > It is dangerous to be right on a subject on which the established > authorities are wrong. ~ Voltaire > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > Vaccines - > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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Guest guest Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 And---Moms protect your (young) sons, as well!!! FDA, CDC, AAP, and Big PhARMA Marketing Departments are revving up the ad campaigns to get your sons vaccinated with this toxic brew, too!!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of Andee Kleinhans Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:01 AM no-forced-vaccination Subject: RE: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? Females beware of Gardisil! Barbara M. I would rather live believing/knowing there is a God and be welcomed into heaven than not believe and find out differently when I die no-forced-vaccination From: david-ihbenhotmail Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:01:20 -0500 Subject: RE: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? right on brother no-forced-vaccination From: theinfamousmetalmaiden Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:17:46 +0000 Subject: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say " oh well I will just write down that you refused them then " , and that " the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up " . When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. > > australia - In 2006 the NSW government, without > public consultation, implemented mandatory > immunization policies for Health Professionals > (10). The government should be required to > demonstrate a serious risk to the community > without these vaccinations before we lose the > right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost>http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/documents/vaccines/Coercive%20and%20Mandatory%20Immunisation%2C%20Ethics.pdf>Coercive > and Mandatory Immunisation: > how ethical is this policy? > > Vaccination is a medical procedure for healthy > individuals and not sick individuals. It is a > procedure that injects weakened pathogens and > chemical substances into the tissues of healthy > individuals to produce an antibody response. > > Chronic illness in children has risen > dramatically in the last two decades. In 2004 41% > of 0-14 year olds had a chronic illness (1). > Statistics in Australia indicate there has been a > five-fold increase in life-threatening food > allergies in children in the decade from > 1994-2005 (1). Autism, asthma, learning and > behavioral difficulties and autoimmune diseases > have all increased significantly during this time > (1). This coincides with the government’s push > to increase vaccination rates in Australia to 95% > with the implementation of the Immunize Australia Program in 1993 (2). > > Thiomersal, a mercury compound and neurotoxin was > present in most infant vaccines prior to 2000 > (3). Scientists have known since 1966 that the > adjuvant used in vaccines – aluminium > hydroxide/phosphate – and antibiotics (in > vaccines) cause hypersensitivity reactions in > humans (4). Yet we are injecting antibiotics, > adjuvant, thiomersal and other compounds into the > tissues of infants at the most vulnerable time of their development. > > Many adverse reactions to vaccines occur which > vary in severity amongst individuals due to > genetic factors (5). It is now known that an > individual can be pre-disposed to a disease by > having the gene for that disease but expression > of the gene can depend upon an environmental > factor (6). Factors thought to be responsible for > activating genes include heavy metals, chemicals, > viruses, bacteria, nutrition and emotional states > and stress (6). Many of these triggers are found in vaccines. > > Veterinary scientists have correlated the > increase in autoimmune diseases and sarcomas in > dogs and cats to increased vaccine use (7). > > > Long-term health studies showing the effects of > multiple vaccines in infants have not been done > in humans or animals (2). Greater emphasis is > being placed on short-term epidemiological > studies (statistical) with selective parameters > investigating one vaccine at a time than the > science that includes biological, clinical and > ecological evidence that is showing a possible > link with chronic illness in children (5) (8). In > addition, twentieth century public health > officials did not claim vaccines controlled infectious diseases (9). > > The underlying ethical principle of health > practitioners is to first do no harm. If it is > biologically plausible that using multiple > vaccines in infants and adults could cause > significant harm to a proportion of the > population as a result of genetic predisposition > and epigenetics, then the onus is on policy > makers to provide conclusive evidence to the > contrary before coercive vaccination policies are implemented. > > In 2006 the NSW government, without public > consultation, implemented mandatory immunization > policies for Health Professionals (10). The > government should be required to demonstrate a > serious risk to the community without these > vaccinations before we lose the right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > Precautionary Principle: The burden of proof of > harmlessness of any new technology/chemical is on > the proponent NOT the general public. > > References: > > 1) Australian Government, Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), > iv) 4829.0.55.001 Health of children in Australia: A Snapshot, 2004-05 > 2) Australian Government, Department of Health > and Ageing, Immunise Australia Program 2004. > 3) Kirby, D., 2005, Evidence of Harm: Mercury in > Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical > Controversy, St. ’s Press, New York. > 4) Greville, RW. , 1966, Recent and Future > Development in Immunising Vaccines, The Medical > Journal of Australia, May 21, p. 908. > 5) Commonwealth Department of Health, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), 1954 > – 1986, Report of the Session, No. 338 – 101. > 6) Ravel G, Christ M, Horand F, Descotes J, 2004, > Autoimmunity, environmental exposure and > vaccination: is there a link? , Toxicology, 196(3) : 211-6, Mar 15. > 7) La , W.R., 2002, The Hayward Foundation > Study on Vaccines; a possible etiology of autoimmune diseases. > 8) Commonwealth of Australia, 1991, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), > Immunisation Procedures (fourth edition), > Australian Government Publishing Service, Canberra. > 9) Burnet, M.,1952, The Pattern of Disease in > Childhood, Australasian ls of Medicine, Vol.1, No. 2: p. 93. > 10) NSW Department of Health, Occupational > Assessment, Screening and Vaccination Against > Specified Infectious Diseases, Policy Directive No. PD2007_006 > > Judy Wilyman – PhD candidate > <mailto:j.wilyman@...>j.wilyman@... > Telephone: 9360 2328 > It is dangerous to be right on a subject on which the established > authorities are wrong. ~ Voltaire > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > Vaccines - > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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Guest guest Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 And---Moms protect your (young) sons, as well!!! FDA, CDC, AAP, and Big PhARMA Marketing Departments are revving up the ad campaigns to get your sons vaccinated with this toxic brew, too!!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of Andee Kleinhans Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:01 AM no-forced-vaccination Subject: RE: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? Females beware of Gardisil! Barbara M. I would rather live believing/knowing there is a God and be welcomed into heaven than not believe and find out differently when I die no-forced-vaccination From: david-ihbenhotmail Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:01:20 -0500 Subject: RE: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? right on brother no-forced-vaccination From: theinfamousmetalmaiden Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:17:46 +0000 Subject: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say " oh well I will just write down that you refused them then " , and that " the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up " . When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. > > australia - In 2006 the NSW government, without > public consultation, implemented mandatory > immunization policies for Health Professionals > (10). The government should be required to > demonstrate a serious risk to the community > without these vaccinations before we lose the > right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost>http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/documents/vaccines/Coercive%20and%20Mandatory%20Immunisation%2C%20Ethics.pdf>Coercive > and Mandatory Immunisation: > how ethical is this policy? > > Vaccination is a medical procedure for healthy > individuals and not sick individuals. It is a > procedure that injects weakened pathogens and > chemical substances into the tissues of healthy > individuals to produce an antibody response. > > Chronic illness in children has risen > dramatically in the last two decades. In 2004 41% > of 0-14 year olds had a chronic illness (1). > Statistics in Australia indicate there has been a > five-fold increase in life-threatening food > allergies in children in the decade from > 1994-2005 (1). Autism, asthma, learning and > behavioral difficulties and autoimmune diseases > have all increased significantly during this time > (1). This coincides with the government’s push > to increase vaccination rates in Australia to 95% > with the implementation of the Immunize Australia Program in 1993 (2). > > Thiomersal, a mercury compound and neurotoxin was > present in most infant vaccines prior to 2000 > (3). Scientists have known since 1966 that the > adjuvant used in vaccines – aluminium > hydroxide/phosphate – and antibiotics (in > vaccines) cause hypersensitivity reactions in > humans (4). Yet we are injecting antibiotics, > adjuvant, thiomersal and other compounds into the > tissues of infants at the most vulnerable time of their development. > > Many adverse reactions to vaccines occur which > vary in severity amongst individuals due to > genetic factors (5). It is now known that an > individual can be pre-disposed to a disease by > having the gene for that disease but expression > of the gene can depend upon an environmental > factor (6). Factors thought to be responsible for > activating genes include heavy metals, chemicals, > viruses, bacteria, nutrition and emotional states > and stress (6). Many of these triggers are found in vaccines. > > Veterinary scientists have correlated the > increase in autoimmune diseases and sarcomas in > dogs and cats to increased vaccine use (7). > > > Long-term health studies showing the effects of > multiple vaccines in infants have not been done > in humans or animals (2). Greater emphasis is > being placed on short-term epidemiological > studies (statistical) with selective parameters > investigating one vaccine at a time than the > science that includes biological, clinical and > ecological evidence that is showing a possible > link with chronic illness in children (5) (8). In > addition, twentieth century public health > officials did not claim vaccines controlled infectious diseases (9). > > The underlying ethical principle of health > practitioners is to first do no harm. If it is > biologically plausible that using multiple > vaccines in infants and adults could cause > significant harm to a proportion of the > population as a result of genetic predisposition > and epigenetics, then the onus is on policy > makers to provide conclusive evidence to the > contrary before coercive vaccination policies are implemented. > > In 2006 the NSW government, without public > consultation, implemented mandatory immunization > policies for Health Professionals (10). The > government should be required to demonstrate a > serious risk to the community without these > vaccinations before we lose the right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > Precautionary Principle: The burden of proof of > harmlessness of any new technology/chemical is on > the proponent NOT the general public. > > References: > > 1) Australian Government, Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), > iv) 4829.0.55.001 Health of children in Australia: A Snapshot, 2004-05 > 2) Australian Government, Department of Health > and Ageing, Immunise Australia Program 2004. > 3) Kirby, D., 2005, Evidence of Harm: Mercury in > Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical > Controversy, St. ’s Press, New York. > 4) Greville, RW. , 1966, Recent and Future > Development in Immunising Vaccines, The Medical > Journal of Australia, May 21, p. 908. > 5) Commonwealth Department of Health, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), 1954 > – 1986, Report of the Session, No. 338 – 101. > 6) Ravel G, Christ M, Horand F, Descotes J, 2004, > Autoimmunity, environmental exposure and > vaccination: is there a link? , Toxicology, 196(3) : 211-6, Mar 15. > 7) La , W.R., 2002, The Hayward Foundation > Study on Vaccines; a possible etiology of autoimmune diseases. > 8) Commonwealth of Australia, 1991, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), > Immunisation Procedures (fourth edition), > Australian Government Publishing Service, Canberra. > 9) Burnet, M.,1952, The Pattern of Disease in > Childhood, Australasian ls of Medicine, Vol.1, No. 2: p. 93. > 10) NSW Department of Health, Occupational > Assessment, Screening and Vaccination Against > Specified Infectious Diseases, Policy Directive No. PD2007_006 > > Judy Wilyman – PhD candidate > <mailto:j.wilyman@...>j.wilyman@... > Telephone: 9360 2328 > It is dangerous to be right on a subject on which the established > authorities are wrong. ~ Voltaire > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > Vaccines - > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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Guest guest Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 And---Moms protect your (young) sons, as well!!! FDA, CDC, AAP, and Big PhARMA Marketing Departments are revving up the ad campaigns to get your sons vaccinated with this toxic brew, too!!!!!! ~~Ruth From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of Andee Kleinhans Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:01 AM no-forced-vaccination Subject: RE: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? Females beware of Gardisil! Barbara M. I would rather live believing/knowing there is a God and be welcomed into heaven than not believe and find out differently when I die no-forced-vaccination From: david-ihbenhotmail Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:01:20 -0500 Subject: RE: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? right on brother no-forced-vaccination From: theinfamousmetalmaiden Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:17:46 +0000 Subject: Re: Coercive and Mandatory Immunisation: how ethical is this policy? I'm getting sick and tired of having my childrens' drs telling me constantly that my kids need hepatitis a vaccine, influenza vaccine, h1n1 vaccine and menningitis vaccine, they DO NOT! I wouldn't get them any vaccines if I wasn't forced to just to have them go to school! Then when I tell the dr no we don't want that one, they say " oh well I will just write down that you refused them then " , and that " the law will soon require them to have it for school anyway so they will just have to catch up " . When my kids were babies and little I didn't know any better, but I do now, and I shouldn't have to give my own kids vaccines that they don't need or that are unsafe. Especially the flu and H1N1 vaccines. I refuse them too. It is bad enough I let them give my 12 yr old the menactryn menningitis vaccine so he won't need it to go to college later on in life. If he gets cancer from it will be my fault and someone will be sorry for killing my kid!. > > australia - In 2006 the NSW government, without > public consultation, implemented mandatory > immunization policies for Health Professionals > (10). The government should be required to > demonstrate a serious risk to the community > without these vaccinations before we lose the > right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost>http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/news.php?start=3220 & end=3240 & view=yes & id=4327#newspost > > <http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/documents/vaccines/Coercive%20and%20Mandatory%20Immunisation%2C%20Ethics.pdf>Coercive > and Mandatory Immunisation: > how ethical is this policy? > > Vaccination is a medical procedure for healthy > individuals and not sick individuals. It is a > procedure that injects weakened pathogens and > chemical substances into the tissues of healthy > individuals to produce an antibody response. > > Chronic illness in children has risen > dramatically in the last two decades. In 2004 41% > of 0-14 year olds had a chronic illness (1). > Statistics in Australia indicate there has been a > five-fold increase in life-threatening food > allergies in children in the decade from > 1994-2005 (1). Autism, asthma, learning and > behavioral difficulties and autoimmune diseases > have all increased significantly during this time > (1). This coincides with the government’s push > to increase vaccination rates in Australia to 95% > with the implementation of the Immunize Australia Program in 1993 (2). > > Thiomersal, a mercury compound and neurotoxin was > present in most infant vaccines prior to 2000 > (3). Scientists have known since 1966 that the > adjuvant used in vaccines – aluminium > hydroxide/phosphate – and antibiotics (in > vaccines) cause hypersensitivity reactions in > humans (4). Yet we are injecting antibiotics, > adjuvant, thiomersal and other compounds into the > tissues of infants at the most vulnerable time of their development. > > Many adverse reactions to vaccines occur which > vary in severity amongst individuals due to > genetic factors (5). It is now known that an > individual can be pre-disposed to a disease by > having the gene for that disease but expression > of the gene can depend upon an environmental > factor (6). Factors thought to be responsible for > activating genes include heavy metals, chemicals, > viruses, bacteria, nutrition and emotional states > and stress (6). Many of these triggers are found in vaccines. > > Veterinary scientists have correlated the > increase in autoimmune diseases and sarcomas in > dogs and cats to increased vaccine use (7). > > > Long-term health studies showing the effects of > multiple vaccines in infants have not been done > in humans or animals (2). Greater emphasis is > being placed on short-term epidemiological > studies (statistical) with selective parameters > investigating one vaccine at a time than the > science that includes biological, clinical and > ecological evidence that is showing a possible > link with chronic illness in children (5) (8). In > addition, twentieth century public health > officials did not claim vaccines controlled infectious diseases (9). > > The underlying ethical principle of health > practitioners is to first do no harm. If it is > biologically plausible that using multiple > vaccines in infants and adults could cause > significant harm to a proportion of the > population as a result of genetic predisposition > and epigenetics, then the onus is on policy > makers to provide conclusive evidence to the > contrary before coercive vaccination policies are implemented. > > In 2006 the NSW government, without public > consultation, implemented mandatory immunization > policies for Health Professionals (10). The > government should be required to demonstrate a > serious risk to the community without these > vaccinations before we lose the right to decide what we inject into our bodies. > > Precautionary Principle: The burden of proof of > harmlessness of any new technology/chemical is on > the proponent NOT the general public. > > References: > > 1) Australian Government, Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), > iv) 4829.0.55.001 Health of children in Australia: A Snapshot, 2004-05 > 2) Australian Government, Department of Health > and Ageing, Immunise Australia Program 2004. > 3) Kirby, D., 2005, Evidence of Harm: Mercury in > Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical > Controversy, St. ’s Press, New York. > 4) Greville, RW. , 1966, Recent and Future > Development in Immunising Vaccines, The Medical > Journal of Australia, May 21, p. 908. > 5) Commonwealth Department of Health, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), 1954 > – 1986, Report of the Session, No. 338 – 101. > 6) Ravel G, Christ M, Horand F, Descotes J, 2004, > Autoimmunity, environmental exposure and > vaccination: is there a link? , Toxicology, 196(3) : 211-6, Mar 15. > 7) La , W.R., 2002, The Hayward Foundation > Study on Vaccines; a possible etiology of autoimmune diseases. > 8) Commonwealth of Australia, 1991, National > Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), > Immunisation Procedures (fourth edition), > Australian Government Publishing Service, Canberra. > 9) Burnet, M.,1952, The Pattern of Disease in > Childhood, Australasian ls of Medicine, Vol.1, No. 2: p. 93. > 10) NSW Department of Health, Occupational > Assessment, Screening and Vaccination Against > Specified Infectious Diseases, Policy Directive No. PD2007_006 > > Judy Wilyman – PhD candidate > <mailto:j.wilyman@...>j.wilyman@... > Telephone: 9360 2328 > It is dangerous to be right on a subject on which the established > authorities are wrong. ~ Voltaire > > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA > Vaccines - > http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/ > Homeopathy http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com > Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & > Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start February 24 & 25 > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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