Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Hi, Regarding ear infections purchase garlic oil mixed with mullen oil made for ears from a good health food store and put it in ears profilactically once infection is gone to prevent swimmer s ear and seasonal allergy reinfections. Check with owner and a doctor (for legality) Usually in my mom with exp. opinion, there is a chronic systemic yeast infection that perpetuates the repeating conditions. The garlic oil that has tea tree oil should not be used as there r reports of hormonal incidences and skin reactions. I am not a dr. and assume no liability so check with your medical professional on this posting. Also you can close the ear by pressing thge side flap,not the earlobe, and take 2 fingersunder the ear pressing along the estachen tube below jaw bone, towards center of throat. When done properly,you will taste gunk going down as you swallow. Now try this on yourself before u try it on a child so you learn how. Once ear tubes are inside I have no knowledge about either garlic oil or closing the ear flap and putting figer pressure on the child because I never would try it as I do not have knowledge of the chemical reaction of the plastic tube and oil or what the pressure might do . This is to prevent the need for ear tubes and usually stops recurring infections. I hope that the tubes r not in place yet. Take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 I had a perforated eardrum and got infected to the point that side of my head was swelled. 3% peroxide poured in the ear cured it. Took it 2 or 3 times a day. About a dozen applications and it was well. Kirkshell tzorfas <stzorfas@...> wrote: Hi, Regarding ear infections purchase garlic oil mixed with mullen oil made for ears from a good health food store and put it in ears profilactically once infection is gone to prevent swimmer s ear and seasonal allergy reinfections. Check with owner and a doctor (for legality) Usually in my mom with exp. opinion, there is a chronic systemic yeast infection that perpetuates the repeating conditions. The garlic oil that has tea tree oil should not be used as there r reports of hormonal incidences and skin reactions. I am not a dr. and assume no liability so check with your medical professional on this posting. Also you can close the ear by pressing thge side flap,not the earlobe, and take 2 fingersunder the ear pressing along the estachen tube below jaw bone, towards center of throat. When done properly,you will taste gunk going down as you swallow. Now try this on yourself before u try it on a child so you learn how. Once ear tubes are inside I have no knowledge about either garlic oil or closing the ear flap and putting figer pressure on the child because I never would try it as I do not have knowledge of the chemical reaction of the plastic tube and oil or what the pressure might do . This is to prevent the need for ear tubes and usually stops recurring infections. I hope that the tubes r not in place yet. Take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 I had a perforated eardrum and got infected to the point that side of my head was swelled. 3% peroxide poured in the ear cured it. Took it 2 or 3 times a day. About a dozen applications and it was well. Kirkshell tzorfas <stzorfas@...> wrote: Hi, Regarding ear infections purchase garlic oil mixed with mullen oil made for ears from a good health food store and put it in ears profilactically once infection is gone to prevent swimmer s ear and seasonal allergy reinfections. Check with owner and a doctor (for legality) Usually in my mom with exp. opinion, there is a chronic systemic yeast infection that perpetuates the repeating conditions. The garlic oil that has tea tree oil should not be used as there r reports of hormonal incidences and skin reactions. I am not a dr. and assume no liability so check with your medical professional on this posting. Also you can close the ear by pressing thge side flap,not the earlobe, and take 2 fingersunder the ear pressing along the estachen tube below jaw bone, towards center of throat. When done properly,you will taste gunk going down as you swallow. Now try this on yourself before u try it on a child so you learn how. Once ear tubes are inside I have no knowledge about either garlic oil or closing the ear flap and putting figer pressure on the child because I never would try it as I do not have knowledge of the chemical reaction of the plastic tube and oil or what the pressure might do . This is to prevent the need for ear tubes and usually stops recurring infections. I hope that the tubes r not in place yet. Take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 We've always used ear candles, then garlic/mullein oil. I used to have chronic ear infections and now never do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 We've always used ear candles, then garlic/mullein oil. I used to have chronic ear infections and now never do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 We live in China so we make our own garlic oil. Slice garlic and warm gently (don't brown at all) in olive oil on the stove or in the toaster oven. Keep it in a little container and use whenever ear pain starts up. has worked every time, a couple of times for my kids, and once for myself. I have also been known to alternate hydrogen peroxide and garlic oil treatments and within a day all pain is gone and no need for antibiotics. > > Hi, Regarding ear infections purchase garlic oil mixed with mullen oil made > for ears from a good health food store and put it in ears profilactically > once infection is gone to prevent swimmer s ear and seasonal allergy > reinfections. Check with owner and a doctor (for legality) Usually in my > mom with exp. opinion, there is a chronic systemic yeast infection that > perpetuates the repeating conditions. The garlic oil that has tea tree oil > should not be used as there r reports of hormonal incidences and skin > reactions. I am not a dr. and assume no liability so check with your medical > professional on this posting. Also you can close the ear by pressing thge > side flap,not the earlobe, and take 2 fingersunder the ear pressing along > the estachen tube below jaw bone, towards center of throat. When done > properly,you will taste gunk going down as you swallow. Now try this on > yourself before u try it on a child so you learn how. Once ear tubes are > inside I have no knowledge about either garlic oil or closing the ear flap > and putting figer pressure on the child because I never would try it as I do > not have knowledge of the chemical reaction of the plastic tube and oil or > what the pressure might do . This is to prevent the need for ear tubes and > usually stops recurring infections. I hope that the tubes r not in place > yet. Take care > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 We live in China so we make our own garlic oil. Slice garlic and warm gently (don't brown at all) in olive oil on the stove or in the toaster oven. Keep it in a little container and use whenever ear pain starts up. has worked every time, a couple of times for my kids, and once for myself. I have also been known to alternate hydrogen peroxide and garlic oil treatments and within a day all pain is gone and no need for antibiotics. > > Hi, Regarding ear infections purchase garlic oil mixed with mullen oil made > for ears from a good health food store and put it in ears profilactically > once infection is gone to prevent swimmer s ear and seasonal allergy > reinfections. Check with owner and a doctor (for legality) Usually in my > mom with exp. opinion, there is a chronic systemic yeast infection that > perpetuates the repeating conditions. The garlic oil that has tea tree oil > should not be used as there r reports of hormonal incidences and skin > reactions. I am not a dr. and assume no liability so check with your medical > professional on this posting. Also you can close the ear by pressing thge > side flap,not the earlobe, and take 2 fingersunder the ear pressing along > the estachen tube below jaw bone, towards center of throat. When done > properly,you will taste gunk going down as you swallow. Now try this on > yourself before u try it on a child so you learn how. Once ear tubes are > inside I have no knowledge about either garlic oil or closing the ear flap > and putting figer pressure on the child because I never would try it as I do > not have knowledge of the chemical reaction of the plastic tube and oil or > what the pressure might do . This is to prevent the need for ear tubes and > usually stops recurring infections. I hope that the tubes r not in place > yet. Take care > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 > > > > Hi, Regarding ear infections purchase garlic oil mixed with mullen > oil made > > for ears from a good health food store and put it in ears > profilactically > > once infection is gone to prevent swimmer s ear and seasonal allergy > > reinfections. Check with owner and a doctor (for legality) Usually > in my > > mom with exp. opinion, there is a chronic systemic yeast infection that > > perpetuates the repeating conditions. The garlic oil that has tea > tree oil > > should not be used as there r reports of hormonal incidences and skin > > reactions. I am not a dr. and assume no liability so check with your > medical > > professional on this posting. Also you can close the ear by > pressing thge > > side flap,not the earlobe, and take 2 fingersunder the ear pressing > along > > the estachen tube below jaw bone, towards center of throat. When done > > properly,you will taste gunk going down as you swallow. Now try this on > > yourself before u try it on a child so you learn how. Once ear > tubes are > > inside I have no knowledge about either garlic oil or closing the > ear flap > > and putting figer pressure on the child because I never would try it > as I do > > not have knowledge of the chemical reaction of the plastic tube and > oil or > > what the pressure might do . This is to prevent the need for ear > tubes and > > usually stops recurring infections. I hope that the tubes r not in place > > yet. Take care > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 > > > > Hi, Regarding ear infections purchase garlic oil mixed with mullen > oil made > > for ears from a good health food store and put it in ears > profilactically > > once infection is gone to prevent swimmer s ear and seasonal allergy > > reinfections. Check with owner and a doctor (for legality) Usually > in my > > mom with exp. opinion, there is a chronic systemic yeast infection that > > perpetuates the repeating conditions. The garlic oil that has tea > tree oil > > should not be used as there r reports of hormonal incidences and skin > > reactions. I am not a dr. and assume no liability so check with your > medical > > professional on this posting. Also you can close the ear by > pressing thge > > side flap,not the earlobe, and take 2 fingersunder the ear pressing > along > > the estachen tube below jaw bone, towards center of throat. When done > > properly,you will taste gunk going down as you swallow. Now try this on > > yourself before u try it on a child so you learn how. Once ear > tubes are > > inside I have no knowledge about either garlic oil or closing the > ear flap > > and putting figer pressure on the child because I never would try it > as I do > > not have knowledge of the chemical reaction of the plastic tube and > oil or > > what the pressure might do . This is to prevent the need for ear > tubes and > > usually stops recurring infections. I hope that the tubes r not in place > > yet. Take care > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success with adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though I am sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could provide you regarding the " harm " that chiropractic can do. Besides the overblown statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing loss and damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's will never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's bodies better than they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success with adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though I am sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could provide you regarding the " harm " that chiropractic can do. Besides the overblown statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing loss and damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's will never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's bodies better than they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Thank you! It only made common sense to me after the chiropractor explained how it works! It really made me mad the way my son's dr. reacted to it! He claimed that his ear infections just went away on their own, like he outgrew them, gave no credit to the chiropractic aadjustments he recieved. I wish more parents would choose this route before deciding to put tubes in their childrens ears! I am glad I am bit stubborn when it comes to my kids, I am just sad that I didn't know how bad vaccines were til recently. > > My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success with > adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though I am > sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. > > I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could provide you > regarding the " harm " that chiropractic can do. Besides the overblown > statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. > Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing loss and > damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. > > You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's will > never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's bodies > better than they do. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Thank you! It only made common sense to me after the chiropractor explained how it works! It really made me mad the way my son's dr. reacted to it! He claimed that his ear infections just went away on their own, like he outgrew them, gave no credit to the chiropractic aadjustments he recieved. I wish more parents would choose this route before deciding to put tubes in their childrens ears! I am glad I am bit stubborn when it comes to my kids, I am just sad that I didn't know how bad vaccines were til recently. > > My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success with > adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though I am > sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. > > I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could provide you > regarding the " harm " that chiropractic can do. Besides the overblown > statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. > Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing loss and > damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. > > You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's will > never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's bodies > better than they do. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 How true!!! ~~Ruth/REU Re: cure for ear infections $4.00 or so My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success with adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though I am sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could provide you regarding the "harm" that chiropractic can do. Besides the overblown statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing loss and damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's will never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's bodies better than they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 How true!!! ~~Ruth/REU Re: cure for ear infections $4.00 or so My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success with adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though I am sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could provide you regarding the "harm" that chiropractic can do. Besides the overblown statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing loss and damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's will never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's bodies better than they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Yes I agree.. My has benefitted tremendously from Chiropractic adjustments.. It helped alleviate some of his digestional discomforts even before I realized he had autism.. Chiropractic adjustments have helped alleviate a lot of my back pain as well.. Yay!!! We have been in CO for very close to a yr now.. Pround to report that I haven't been to a regular dr since arriving in CO.. I have only relied on chiropractic adjustments and of course my laser treatments.. Mine and my son's life are all the healthier for not going to regular doctors. I am sad too about not knowing about the horrors of vaccines and the bombardment of toxins in our environment until relatively recent. Good for you for going the natural route of healing..!!!! > > > > My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success with > > adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though I am > > sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. > > > > I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could provide > you > > regarding the " harm " that chiropractic can do. Besides the overblown > > statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. > > Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing loss > and > > damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. > > > > You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's will > > never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's bodies > > better than they do. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Yes I agree.. My has benefitted tremendously from Chiropractic adjustments.. It helped alleviate some of his digestional discomforts even before I realized he had autism.. Chiropractic adjustments have helped alleviate a lot of my back pain as well.. Yay!!! We have been in CO for very close to a yr now.. Pround to report that I haven't been to a regular dr since arriving in CO.. I have only relied on chiropractic adjustments and of course my laser treatments.. Mine and my son's life are all the healthier for not going to regular doctors. I am sad too about not knowing about the horrors of vaccines and the bombardment of toxins in our environment until relatively recent. Good for you for going the natural route of healing..!!!! > > > > My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success with > > adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though I am > > sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. > > > > I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could provide > you > > regarding the " harm " that chiropractic can do. Besides the overblown > > statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. > > Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing loss > and > > damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. > > > > You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's will > > never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's bodies > > better than they do. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Thanks:) I just wish more insurances would pay for chiropractic care, it may help with fewer sick visits to the dr. I just can't believe that this vaccine contamination is happening! There are too many instances for it to be mistakes, or accidental! They are trying to kill us off! Why else would they refuse vaccines for their own children but force others to innoculate their kids and hurt thm. It makes me sick! > > > > > > My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success > with > > > adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though I > am > > > sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. > > > > > > I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could > provide > > you > > > regarding the " harm " that chiropractic can do. Besides the > overblown > > > statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. > > > Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing > loss > > and > > > damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. > > > > > > You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's > will > > > never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's > bodies > > > better than they do. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Thanks:) I just wish more insurances would pay for chiropractic care, it may help with fewer sick visits to the dr. I just can't believe that this vaccine contamination is happening! There are too many instances for it to be mistakes, or accidental! They are trying to kill us off! Why else would they refuse vaccines for their own children but force others to innoculate their kids and hurt thm. It makes me sick! > > > > > > My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success > with > > > adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though I > am > > > sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. > > > > > > I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could > provide > > you > > > regarding the " harm " that chiropractic can do. Besides the > overblown > > > statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. > > > Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing > loss > > and > > > damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. > > > > > > You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's > will > > > never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's > bodies > > > better than they do. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I've used ear candles successfully for our family and they have warded off ear infections in my son, who when he was younger, could not tolerate dairy and sugar together. But then I always knew this, but my husband insisted he did not have a sensitivity because he didn't as a child. Go figure... Anyways, I would use the garlic oil at night while sleeping on a towel over pillowcase to allow the oil time to lubricate and soften the ear wax. In the a.m. would use 3 candles on each ear alternating, left, right, left, right... This worked beautifully and you wouldn't believe the old gunk that would come out, teaspoons full. Afterwards it was like you could hear everything so clearly and your head didn't feel that pressure when a cold is coming on. Hydrogen peroxide is an old German standby and when a cold is lingering, I put this in the ears until the bubbling stops (over a sink) and no cold. Also, no dairy, sugar, or mucous-forming foods during this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I've used ear candles successfully for our family and they have warded off ear infections in my son, who when he was younger, could not tolerate dairy and sugar together. But then I always knew this, but my husband insisted he did not have a sensitivity because he didn't as a child. Go figure... Anyways, I would use the garlic oil at night while sleeping on a towel over pillowcase to allow the oil time to lubricate and soften the ear wax. In the a.m. would use 3 candles on each ear alternating, left, right, left, right... This worked beautifully and you wouldn't believe the old gunk that would come out, teaspoons full. Afterwards it was like you could hear everything so clearly and your head didn't feel that pressure when a cold is coming on. Hydrogen peroxide is an old German standby and when a cold is lingering, I put this in the ears until the bubbling stops (over a sink) and no cold. Also, no dairy, sugar, or mucous-forming foods during this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Yup, I feel just as disgusted as you do.. > > > > > > > > My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success > > with > > > > adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though > I > > am > > > > sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. > > > > > > > > I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could > > provide > > > you > > > > regarding the " harm " that chiropractic can do. Besides the > > overblown > > > > statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. > > > > Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing > > loss > > > and > > > > damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. > > > > > > > > You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's > > will > > > > never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's > > bodies > > > > better than they do. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Yup, I feel just as disgusted as you do.. > > > > > > > > My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success > > with > > > > adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though > I > > am > > > > sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. > > > > > > > > I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could > > provide > > > you > > > > regarding the " harm " that chiropractic can do. Besides the > > overblown > > > > statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. > > > > Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing > > loss > > > and > > > > damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. > > > > > > > > You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's > > will > > > > never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's > > bodies > > > > better than they do. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Yup, I feel just as disgusted as you do.. > > > > > > > > My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success > > with > > > > adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though > I > > am > > > > sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. > > > > > > > > I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could > > provide > > > you > > > > regarding the " harm " that chiropractic can do. Besides the > > overblown > > > > statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. > > > > Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing > > loss > > > and > > > > damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. > > > > > > > > You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's > > will > > > > never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's > > bodies > > > > better than they do. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Yup, I feel just as disgusted as you do.. > > > > > > > > My husband is a chiropractor and the evidence regarding success > > with > > > > adjustments for ear infections has been well documented though > I > > am > > > > sure rarely discussed among the allopathic crowd. > > > > > > > > I would have asked the peditrician what evidence s/he could > > provide > > > you > > > > regarding the " harm " that chiropractic can do. Besides the > > overblown > > > > statistics they keep trying to manipulate re: stroke risk. > > > > Incidentally there is I am sure much more evidence of hearing > > loss > > > and > > > > damage related to the insertion of ear tubes. > > > > > > > > You did the right thing for your child. Allopathic physician's > > will > > > > never give us credit for knowing our bodies and our children's > > bodies > > > > better than they do. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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