Re: religious excemption letter requested for uni for 23 yr old student

[Guest guest]

I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'. Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilson@...> wrote:

Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

university/college?

[Guest guest]

I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'. Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilson@...> wrote:

Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

university/college?

[Guest guest]

I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'. Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilson@...> wrote:

Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

university/college?

[Guest guest]

I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'. Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilson@...> wrote:

Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

university/college?

[Guest guest]

I live and go to school in NY, I simply quoted the law and ask politely

for the form to opt out for religious reasons. The nurse gave me a dirty

look, and gave me the form. There should not be that much of a problem

opting out, still whatever happens don't allow her to take the vaccine

I personally know 2 people who have had long term side effects from the

MMR and another person who off and on for a year broke out in measles

like symptoms and now is diabetic. I am sure the vaccine is to blame.

bordybeanhole wrote:

>

> Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

> have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

> is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

> I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

> We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

> that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> university/college?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I live and go to school in NY, I simply quoted the law and ask politely

for the form to opt out for religious reasons. The nurse gave me a dirty

look, and gave me the form. There should not be that much of a problem

opting out, still whatever happens don't allow her to take the vaccine

I personally know 2 people who have had long term side effects from the

MMR and another person who off and on for a year broke out in measles

like symptoms and now is diabetic. I am sure the vaccine is to blame.

bordybeanhole wrote:

>

> Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

> have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

> is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

> I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

> We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

> that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> university/college?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Where can I find out more info on the alternative inoculations?

--

Love, Hugs, & God bless!

Pat )

pat_507@...

" The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect

you. "

Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR GOD

IS!!

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " Monika Reign B. " <nature.mum@...>

> I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and

> I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things

> they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

>

> My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.

>

>

> As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept

> 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'.

> Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be

> more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is

> followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm

> not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure

> whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

>

>

>

> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilson@...>wrote:

>

> > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

> > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

> > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

> > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

> > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

> > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> > university/college?

> >

> >

> >

I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'. Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilsonpsy (DOT) uoguelph.ca> wrote:

Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

university/college?

[Guest guest]

I wonder if this would work for the younger children in grade school....the

alternative inoculations, that is????????

--

Love, Hugs, & God bless!

Pat )

pat_507@...

" The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect

you. "

Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR GOD

IS!!

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " Monika Reign B. " <nature.mum@...>

> I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and

> I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things

> they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

>

> My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.

>

>

> As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept

> 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'.

> Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be

> more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is

> followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm

> not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure

> whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

>

>

>

> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilson@...>wrote:

>

> > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

> > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

> > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

> > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

> > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

> > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> > university/college?

> >

> >

> >

I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'. Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilsonpsy (DOT) uoguelph.ca> wrote:

Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

university/college?

[Guest guest]

Where can I find out more info on the alternative inoculations?

--

Love, Hugs, & God bless!

Pat )

pat_507@...

" The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect

you. "

Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR GOD

IS!!

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " Monika Reign B. " <nature.mum@...>

> I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and

> I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things

> they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

>

> My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.

>

>

> As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept

> 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'.

> Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be

> more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is

> followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm

> not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure

> whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

>

>

>

> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilson@...>wrote:

>

> > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

> > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

> > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

> > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

> > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

> > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> > university/college?

> >

> >

> >

I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'. Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilsonpsy (DOT) uoguelph.ca> wrote:

Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

university/college?

[Guest guest]

I wonder if this would work for the younger children in grade school....the

alternative inoculations, that is????????

--

Love, Hugs, & God bless!

Pat )

pat_507@...

" The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect

you. "

Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR GOD

IS!!

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " Monika Reign B. " <nature.mum@...>

> I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and

> I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things

> they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

>

> My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.

>

>

> As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept

> 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'.

> Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be

> more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is

> followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm

> not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure

> whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

>

>

>

> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilson@...>wrote:

>

> > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

> > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

> > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

> > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

> > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

> > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> > university/college?

> >

> >

> >

I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'. Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilsonpsy (DOT) uoguelph.ca> wrote:

Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

university/college?

[Guest guest]

Not sure, I think someone on this group would have that info or ask a homeopath.On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:33 PM, <pat_507@...> wrote:

Where can I find out more info on the alternative inoculations?

--

Love, Hugs, & God bless!

Pat )

pat_507@...

" The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you. "

Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR GOD IS!!

--------- Re: religious excemption letter requested for uni for 23 yr old student

I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'. Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilson@...> wrote:

Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

university/college?

[Guest guest]

Not sure, I think someone on this group would have that info or ask a homeopath.On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:33 PM, <pat_507@...> wrote:

Where can I find out more info on the alternative inoculations?

--

Love, Hugs, & God bless!

Pat )

pat_507@...

" The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you. "

Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR GOD IS!!

--------- Re: religious excemption letter requested for uni for 23 yr old student

I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'. Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilson@...> wrote:

Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

university/college?

[Guest guest]

Re: religious excemption letter

requested for uni for 23 yr old student

I wonder if this would work for the younger children in grade school....the

alternative inoculations, that is????????

--

Love, Hugs, & God bless!

Pat )

pat_507@...

" The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect

you. "

Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR

GOD IS!!

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " Monika Reign B. " <nature.mum@...>

> I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old

and

> I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things

> they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

>

> My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.

>

>

> As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept

> 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'.

> Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be

> more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is

> followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead.

I'm

> not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure

> whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

>

>

>

> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole

<vwilson@...>wrote:

>

> > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

> > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

> > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

> > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

> > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

> > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> > university/college?

> >

> >

> >

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Re: religious excemption letter

requested for uni for 23 yr old student

Where can I find out more info on the alternative inoculations?

--

Love, Hugs, & God bless!

Pat )

pat_507@...

" The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect

you. "

Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR

GOD IS!!

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " Monika Reign B. " <nature.mum@...>

> I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old

and

> I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things

> they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

>

> My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.

>

>

> As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept

> 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'.

> Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be

> more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is

> followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead.

I'm

> not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure

> whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

>

>

>

> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole

<vwilson@...>wrote:

>

> > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

> > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

> > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

> > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

> > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

> > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> > university/college?

> >

> >

> >

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Monika! If anyone here in this group has an answer for me, please let me

know......thanks!!

--

Love, Hugs, & God bless!

Pat )

pat_507@...

" The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect

you. "

Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR GOD

IS!!

--------- Re: religious excemption letter requested for uni for 23 yr old student

I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'. Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilsonpsy (DOT) uoguelph.ca> wrote:

Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

university/college?

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Monika! If anyone here in this group has an answer for me, please let me

know......thanks!!

--

Love, Hugs, & God bless!

Pat )

pat_507@...

" The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect

you. "

Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR GOD

IS!!

--------- Re: religious excemption letter requested for uni for 23 yr old student

I hope she's not resentful that you didn't vaccinate. I'm 21 years old and I WISH my parents had not gotten me vaccinated or did even half the things they did. My life would be a lot easier right now and for my son as well.

My son is now 2 and has not received one vaccination in his life.As for the university issue she's having, ask them if they accept 'alternative innoculations' which is basically a homeopathic 'vaccine'. Many universities accept this as an alternative and I believe it would be more likely that they will accept her if her religious excemption is followed with the suggestion to get the homeopathic 'vaccine' instead. I'm not sure exactly how it works but there has been posts though not sure whether in this group or in another group but I know people have done it.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole <vwilsonpsy (DOT) uoguelph.ca> wrote:

Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

university/college?

[Guest guest]

Hullo Bordy. Your daughter's previous religious exemption will be helpful to you now, knowing the child has never been vaccinated for religious reason. Include a copy of that fact with her religious letter that they are wanting. There are many good sample religious letters on the net, by state, including NY. I dont know what they have for Canada, but am sure you can look that up. It shouldn't be a problem. Colleges and universities are are legal bound to provide vaccine exemptions, as well as other schools. Our bodies were never meant to be unindated by chemicals, metals and toxins, DNA alterers, manmade materials, aborted fetuses, bacterial, viruses, yeast or animal parts, ETC. This is against nature, and most bible teachings.. Here is some NY exemption info, including for college, Read it thorougly. Hope this helps. http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/newyork.htm She does not need to specify a particullar religious denomination, no matter if they want one. It is not their legal right to ask for that, and may be considered illegal for them to do so. Good luck that all goes smoothly and she can continue her education of choice, with this niggling problem out of the way. If they deny her for Any reason, about any of this, threaten to sue! Make sure you understand your full legal rights under the laws. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

[Guest guest]

We live in upstate NY. All my kids have attended camps; although,

none of them have ever been to school. Now two of them are in

college. I have provided letters of religious exemption. The only

response that I ever got from the health folks at school was a letter

stating that if there was a measles outbreak, my kids would have to

come home. Make sure you notarize your letter.

t

On Aug 19, 2008, at 3:12 PM, bordybeanhole wrote:

> Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling, 20,18,16

> have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of inoculations. She

> is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to infants.

> I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody else.'

> We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious reasons

> that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> university/college?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, there are homeopathic versions of vaccine substances. There is a

protocol to follow and it's considered harmless. I have a colleague

who get that request a lot and I know the same route. You can ask

them if it will suffice for real though.

Or you can work on that 'strong religious exemption' - there are

examples floating around out there. Explain in writing to them your

religion does not allow anything not made by God into her body, nor

anything to enter it not via a natural orifice, etc.

Personally, I wouldn't do either form of vaccination and just treat

what comes, if it does. I've helped someone through whooping cough

with the indicated remedy just fine and our materia medica is full of

successfully treating all those diseases

Good luck!

Liz

Classical Homeopath

> >

> > > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling,

20,18,16

> > > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> > > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> > > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > > university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> > > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of

inoculations. She

> > > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> > > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> > > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> > > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> > > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to

infants.

> > > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> > > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody

else.'

> > > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious

reasons

> > > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> > > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> > > university/college?

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, there are homeopathic versions of vaccine substances. There is a

protocol to follow and it's considered harmless. I have a colleague

who get that request a lot and I know the same route. You can ask

them if it will suffice for real though.

Or you can work on that 'strong religious exemption' - there are

examples floating around out there. Explain in writing to them your

religion does not allow anything not made by God into her body, nor

anything to enter it not via a natural orifice, etc.

Personally, I wouldn't do either form of vaccination and just treat

what comes, if it does. I've helped someone through whooping cough

with the indicated remedy just fine and our materia medica is full of

successfully treating all those diseases

Good luck!

Liz

Classical Homeopath

> >

> > > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling,

20,18,16

> > > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> > > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> > > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > > university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> > > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of

inoculations. She

> > > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> > > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> > > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> > > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> > > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to

infants.

> > > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> > > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody

else.'

> > > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious

reasons

> > > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> > > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> > > university/college?

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, there are homeopathic versions of vaccine substances. There is a

protocol to follow and it's considered harmless. I have a colleague

who get that request a lot and I know the same route. You can ask

them if it will suffice for real though.

Or you can work on that 'strong religious exemption' - there are

examples floating around out there. Explain in writing to them your

religion does not allow anything not made by God into her body, nor

anything to enter it not via a natural orifice, etc.

Personally, I wouldn't do either form of vaccination and just treat

what comes, if it does. I've helped someone through whooping cough

with the indicated remedy just fine and our materia medica is full of

successfully treating all those diseases

Good luck!

Liz

Classical Homeopath

> >

> > > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling,

20,18,16

> > > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> > > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> > > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > > university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> > > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of

inoculations. She

> > > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> > > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> > > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> > > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> > > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to

infants.

> > > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> > > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody

else.'

> > > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious

reasons

> > > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> > > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> > > university/college?

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, there are homeopathic versions of vaccine substances. There is a

protocol to follow and it's considered harmless. I have a colleague

who get that request a lot and I know the same route. You can ask

them if it will suffice for real though.

Or you can work on that 'strong religious exemption' - there are

examples floating around out there. Explain in writing to them your

religion does not allow anything not made by God into her body, nor

anything to enter it not via a natural orifice, etc.

Personally, I wouldn't do either form of vaccination and just treat

what comes, if it does. I've helped someone through whooping cough

with the indicated remedy just fine and our materia medica is full of

successfully treating all those diseases

Good luck!

Liz

Classical Homeopath

> >

> > > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling,

20,18,16

> > > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a tetanus shot

> > > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches without the

> > > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > > university but was told she will not be admitted without proving a

> > > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of

inoculations. She

> > > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She likes

> > > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked her if

> > > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their wishes by

> > > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have them at

> > > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to

infants.

> > > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision in the

> > > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody

else.'

> > > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious

reasons

> > > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good till they

> > > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children and

> > > university/college?

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I guess this is a guestion for a lawyer but I don't believe the

religious exemption is linked to age. It has been several years ago

but I helped a friend who was older write a letter to a college.

They had been a bit agressive with her but I made a comment in the

letter that I was sure it wasn't their intent to violate her right to

practive her religion--no metion of type of church. After the letter

she never heard another word. If your daughter doesn't understand

why you didn't vaccinate her there is no time like the present to

start teaching her. Share some of the information you get here a

little at a time. If she hasn't already she will get a lot of

pressure for the HPV shot. Start with that--This shot is using girls

as lab rats. Many have been injured and killed! Good luck, Jan

> > >

> > > > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling,

> 20,18,16

> > > > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a

tetanus shot

> > > > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches

without the

> > > > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > > > university but was told she will not be admitted without

proving a

> > > > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of

> inoculations. She

> > > > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She

likes

> > > > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked

her if

> > > > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their

wishes by

> > > > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have

them at

> > > > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to

> infants.

> > > > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision

in the

> > > > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody

> else.'

> > > > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious

> reasons

> > > > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good

till they

> > > > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children

and

> > > > university/college?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I guess this is a guestion for a lawyer but I don't believe the

religious exemption is linked to age. It has been several years ago

but I helped a friend who was older write a letter to a college.

They had been a bit agressive with her but I made a comment in the

letter that I was sure it wasn't their intent to violate her right to

practive her religion--no metion of type of church. After the letter

she never heard another word. If your daughter doesn't understand

why you didn't vaccinate her there is no time like the present to

start teaching her. Share some of the information you get here a

little at a time. If she hasn't already she will get a lot of

pressure for the HPV shot. Start with that--This shot is using girls

as lab rats. Many have been injured and killed! Good luck, Jan

> > >

> > > > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling,

> 20,18,16

> > > > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a

tetanus shot

> > > > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches

without the

> > > > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > > > university but was told she will not be admitted without

proving a

> > > > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of

> inoculations. She

> > > > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She

likes

> > > > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked

her if

> > > > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their

wishes by

> > > > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have

them at

> > > > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to

> infants.

> > > > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision

in the

> > > > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody

> else.'

> > > > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious

> reasons

> > > > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good

till they

> > > > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children

and

> > > > university/college?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I guess this is a guestion for a lawyer but I don't believe the

religious exemption is linked to age. It has been several years ago

but I helped a friend who was older write a letter to a college.

They had been a bit agressive with her but I made a comment in the

letter that I was sure it wasn't their intent to violate her right to

practive her religion--no metion of type of church. After the letter

she never heard another word. If your daughter doesn't understand

why you didn't vaccinate her there is no time like the present to

start teaching her. Share some of the information you get here a

little at a time. If she hasn't already she will get a lot of

pressure for the HPV shot. Start with that--This shot is using girls

as lab rats. Many have been injured and killed! Good luck, Jan

> > >

> > > > Newbie from Canada here. My daughter 23 and her 3 sibling,

> 20,18,16

> > > > have never been vaccinated though there was 1 slip of a

tetanus shot

> > > > on my son because the hospital refused to apply stitches

without the

> > > > shot first. So now my oldest girl would like to apply to a NY

> > > > university but was told she will not be admitted without

proving a

> > > > 'strong religious reason' letter for the absence of

> inoculations. She

> > > > is fearful that her letter will not be convincing enough. She

likes

> > > > to go with the flow and not create waves though when I asked

her if

> > > > she wanted to forget all this hassle and conform to their

wishes by

> > > > receiving the shots she said she would be frightened to have

them at

> > > > this age. I reminded her that they are usually administer to

> infants.

> > > > I don't believe she fully understands why I made the decision

in the

> > > > first place and at times would 'just like to be like everybody

> else.'

> > > > We had always used the excempt form for religious or conscious

> reasons

> > > > that was signed by a city counselor but that is only good

till they

> > > > are 18. Anybody have similar experiences with older children

and

> > > > university/college?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >