Re: My brother is now taking Lexapro

[Guest guest]

Is your brother prepared to either a) be on it for life or suffer

the withdrawls when 'coming off' the drug?

Are the people in his life prepared to be on the look out for mood

and/or behavior changes encase he has a negative reaction to it?

Just some questions I think someone has to answer before starting on

it.

[Guest guest]

Is your brother prepared to either a) be on it for life or suffer

the withdrawls when 'coming off' the drug?

Are the people in his life prepared to be on the look out for mood

and/or behavior changes encase he has a negative reaction to it?

Just some questions I think someone has to answer before starting on

it.

[Guest guest]

Is your brother prepared to either a) be on it for life or suffer

the withdrawls when 'coming off' the drug?

Are the people in his life prepared to be on the look out for mood

and/or behavior changes encase he has a negative reaction to it?

Just some questions I think someone has to answer before starting on

it.

[Guest guest]

Is your brother prepared to either a) be on it for life or suffer

the withdrawls when 'coming off' the drug?

Are the people in his life prepared to be on the look out for mood

and/or behavior changes encase he has a negative reaction to it?

Just some questions I think someone has to answer before starting on

it.

[Guest guest]

If 1 percent of the people taking a heavily promoted drug died what's 1

percent of 2 million = 10,000? 5 million = 50,000 or way more world wide? 1

in 50 for children? Is the drug really saving someone's life? I would have

to factor that in. FDA would fire me

Jim

His doctor is a nureolologist.

My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared to

how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

my

head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have side

effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people and

kills 10, then he considers it safe.

He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a few

don't make it.

My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you sat

on

the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die from

it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

the

market. (Percentages only).

Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

john

[Guest guest]

If 1 percent of the people taking a heavily promoted drug died what's 1

percent of 2 million = 10,000? 5 million = 50,000 or way more world wide? 1

in 50 for children? Is the drug really saving someone's life? I would have

to factor that in. FDA would fire me

Jim

His doctor is a nureolologist.

My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared to

how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

my

head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have side

effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people and

kills 10, then he considers it safe.

He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a few

don't make it.

My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you sat

on

the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die from

it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

the

market. (Percentages only).

Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

john

[Guest guest]

If 1 percent of the people taking a heavily promoted drug died what's 1

percent of 2 million = 10,000? 5 million = 50,000 or way more world wide? 1

in 50 for children? Is the drug really saving someone's life? I would have

to factor that in. FDA would fire me

Jim

His doctor is a nureolologist.

My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared to

how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

my

head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have side

effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people and

kills 10, then he considers it safe.

He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a few

don't make it.

My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you sat

on

the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die from

it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

the

market. (Percentages only).

Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

john

[Guest guest]

If 1 percent of the people taking a heavily promoted drug died what's 1

percent of 2 million = 10,000? 5 million = 50,000 or way more world wide? 1

in 50 for children? Is the drug really saving someone's life? I would have

to factor that in. FDA would fire me

Jim

His doctor is a nureolologist.

My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared to

how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

my

head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have side

effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people and

kills 10, then he considers it safe.

He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a few

don't make it.

My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you sat

on

the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die from

it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

the

market. (Percentages only).

Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

john

[Guest guest]

Antidepressants are kind of like the Japanese that eat blowfish, it's a

manly thing to do. Some people die, some people look dead so they leave them

outside of their graves for a week in case they get up and go home. But with

antidepressants someone else is liable to get killed as much as the taker of

the drug.

Is your brother prepared to either a) be on it for life or suffer

the withdrawls when 'coming off' the drug?

Are the people in his life prepared to be on the look out for mood

and/or behavior changes encase he has a negative reaction to it?

Just some questions I think someone has to answer before starting on

it.

[Guest guest]

Antidepressants are kind of like the Japanese that eat blowfish, it's a

manly thing to do. Some people die, some people look dead so they leave them

outside of their graves for a week in case they get up and go home. But with

antidepressants someone else is liable to get killed as much as the taker of

the drug.

Is your brother prepared to either a) be on it for life or suffer

the withdrawls when 'coming off' the drug?

Are the people in his life prepared to be on the look out for mood

and/or behavior changes encase he has a negative reaction to it?

Just some questions I think someone has to answer before starting on

it.

[Guest guest]

Antidepressants are kind of like the Japanese that eat blowfish, it's a

manly thing to do. Some people die, some people look dead so they leave them

outside of their graves for a week in case they get up and go home. But with

antidepressants someone else is liable to get killed as much as the taker of

the drug.

Is your brother prepared to either a) be on it for life or suffer

the withdrawls when 'coming off' the drug?

Are the people in his life prepared to be on the look out for mood

and/or behavior changes encase he has a negative reaction to it?

Just some questions I think someone has to answer before starting on

it.

[Guest guest]

Antidepressants are kind of like the Japanese that eat blowfish, it's a

manly thing to do. Some people die, some people look dead so they leave them

outside of their graves for a week in case they get up and go home. But with

antidepressants someone else is liable to get killed as much as the taker of

the drug.

Is your brother prepared to either a) be on it for life or suffer

the withdrawls when 'coming off' the drug?

Are the people in his life prepared to be on the look out for mood

and/or behavior changes encase he has a negative reaction to it?

Just some questions I think someone has to answer before starting on

it.

[Guest guest]

8-12% caucasians are deficient in the enzimes that metabolise these

drugs.

That to me is an awful lot of folks who will get screwed up on them.

> His doctor is a nureolologist.

>

> My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

> effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared

to

> how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

> my

> head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have

side

> effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people

and

> kills 10, then he considers it safe.

>

> He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a

few

> don't make it.

>

> My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you

sat

> on

> the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die

from

> it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

> the

> market. (Percentages only).

>

> Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

>

> john

[Guest guest]

8-12% caucasians are deficient in the enzimes that metabolise these

drugs.

That to me is an awful lot of folks who will get screwed up on them.

> His doctor is a nureolologist.

>

> My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

> effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared

to

> how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

> my

> head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have

side

> effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people

and

> kills 10, then he considers it safe.

>

> He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a

few

> don't make it.

>

> My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you

sat

> on

> the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die

from

> it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

> the

> market. (Percentages only).

>

> Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

>

> john

[Guest guest]

8-12% caucasians are deficient in the enzimes that metabolise these

drugs.

That to me is an awful lot of folks who will get screwed up on them.

> His doctor is a nureolologist.

>

> My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

> effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared

to

> how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

> my

> head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have

side

> effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people

and

> kills 10, then he considers it safe.

>

> He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a

few

> don't make it.

>

> My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you

sat

> on

> the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die

from

> it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

> the

> market. (Percentages only).

>

> Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

>

> john

[Guest guest]

8-12% caucasians are deficient in the enzimes that metabolise these

drugs.

That to me is an awful lot of folks who will get screwed up on them.

> His doctor is a nureolologist.

>

> My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

> effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared

to

> how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

> my

> head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have

side

> effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people

and

> kills 10, then he considers it safe.

>

> He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a

few

> don't make it.

>

> My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you

sat

> on

> the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die

from

> it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

> the

> market. (Percentages only).

>

> Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

>

> john

[Guest guest]

If he has to take something for pain (AD) why would't the choice be

Elavil? Where does your brother live? The risk of suicide is 5.5

times as great on Lxapro than on Elavil.

Charlie

> His doctor is a nureolologist.

>

> My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

> effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared

to

> how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

> my

> head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have

side

> effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people

and

> kills 10, then he considers it safe.

>

> He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a

few

> don't make it.

>

> My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you

sat

> on

> the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die

from

> it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

> the

> market. (Percentages only).

>

> Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

>

> john

[Guest guest]

If he has to take something for pain (AD) why would't the choice be

Elavil? Where does your brother live? The risk of suicide is 5.5

times as great on Lxapro than on Elavil.

Charlie

> His doctor is a nureolologist.

>

> My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

> effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared

to

> how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

> my

> head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have

side

> effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people

and

> kills 10, then he considers it safe.

>

> He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a

few

> don't make it.

>

> My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you

sat

> on

> the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die

from

> it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

> the

> market. (Percentages only).

>

> Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

>

> john

[Guest guest]

If he has to take something for pain (AD) why would't the choice be

Elavil? Where does your brother live? The risk of suicide is 5.5

times as great on Lxapro than on Elavil.

Charlie

> His doctor is a nureolologist.

>

> My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

> effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared

to

> how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

> my

> head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have

side

> effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people

and

> kills 10, then he considers it safe.

>

> He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a

few

> don't make it.

>

> My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you

sat

> on

> the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die

from

> it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

> the

> market. (Percentages only).

>

> Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

>

> john

[Guest guest]

If he has to take something for pain (AD) why would't the choice be

Elavil? Where does your brother live? The risk of suicide is 5.5

times as great on Lxapro than on Elavil.

Charlie

> His doctor is a nureolologist.

>

> My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

> effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared

to

> how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

> my

> head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have

side

> effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people

and

> kills 10, then he considers it safe.

>

> He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a

few

> don't make it.

>

> My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you

sat

> on

> the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die

from

> it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

> the

> market. (Percentages only).

>

> Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

>

> john

[Guest guest]

The real issue is not how many people take these drugs and don't kill themselves

or someone else. The main issue is whether these drugs should have ever been

put on the market at all. If the data had been released about the

suicidality/homicidality caused by these drugs, the FDA wouldn't have approved

them at all. That's why they covered up the negative outcomes. Another issue is

of those who believe they are being helped - are they " cured " or made dependent

on a chemical cocktail for the rest of their lives? Many of our members have

spent years on these drugs before coming to a toxic point where they either can

no longer metabolize the drugs or they become ineffective, leading to an

increase in dosage or change in medication, which can trigger a previously

responsive person to have a psychotic episode or breakdown. We weren't even

allowed to know the short-term ramifications, much less have we figured out the

long-term effects. My boss' mother-in-law has been treated with

antidepressants for over 30 years - originally drugs like Ellavil,

amitryptaline, then onto SSRI's for the past 12 years or so. She is no longer

responsive to her family (basically catatonic unless she is having a

daymare-type episode when no one knows what she is experiencing as she screams

and cries out for help and a recent brain scan showed a " black hole " where a

large portion of her brain should be. How many is too many? All of them are

too many because we were lied to from the beginning. The people currently being

" helped " may face their own hell one day.

Terry

jbc999 <jbc999@...> wrote:

His doctor is a nureolologist.

My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared to

how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

my

head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have side

effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people and

kills 10, then he considers it safe.

He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a few

don't make it.

My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you sat

on

the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die from

it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

the

market. (Percentages only).

Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

john

[Guest guest]

The real issue is not how many people take these drugs and don't kill themselves

or someone else. The main issue is whether these drugs should have ever been

put on the market at all. If the data had been released about the

suicidality/homicidality caused by these drugs, the FDA wouldn't have approved

them at all. That's why they covered up the negative outcomes. Another issue is

of those who believe they are being helped - are they " cured " or made dependent

on a chemical cocktail for the rest of their lives? Many of our members have

spent years on these drugs before coming to a toxic point where they either can

no longer metabolize the drugs or they become ineffective, leading to an

increase in dosage or change in medication, which can trigger a previously

responsive person to have a psychotic episode or breakdown. We weren't even

allowed to know the short-term ramifications, much less have we figured out the

long-term effects. My boss' mother-in-law has been treated with

antidepressants for over 30 years - originally drugs like Ellavil,

amitryptaline, then onto SSRI's for the past 12 years or so. She is no longer

responsive to her family (basically catatonic unless she is having a

daymare-type episode when no one knows what she is experiencing as she screams

and cries out for help and a recent brain scan showed a " black hole " where a

large portion of her brain should be. How many is too many? All of them are

too many because we were lied to from the beginning. The people currently being

" helped " may face their own hell one day.

Terry

jbc999 <jbc999@...> wrote:

His doctor is a nureolologist.

My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared to

how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

my

head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have side

effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people and

kills 10, then he considers it safe.

He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a few

don't make it.

My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you sat

on

the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die from

it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

the

market. (Percentages only).

Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

john

[Guest guest]

The real issue is not how many people take these drugs and don't kill themselves

or someone else. The main issue is whether these drugs should have ever been

put on the market at all. If the data had been released about the

suicidality/homicidality caused by these drugs, the FDA wouldn't have approved

them at all. That's why they covered up the negative outcomes. Another issue is

of those who believe they are being helped - are they " cured " or made dependent

on a chemical cocktail for the rest of their lives? Many of our members have

spent years on these drugs before coming to a toxic point where they either can

no longer metabolize the drugs or they become ineffective, leading to an

increase in dosage or change in medication, which can trigger a previously

responsive person to have a psychotic episode or breakdown. We weren't even

allowed to know the short-term ramifications, much less have we figured out the

long-term effects. My boss' mother-in-law has been treated with

antidepressants for over 30 years - originally drugs like Ellavil,

amitryptaline, then onto SSRI's for the past 12 years or so. She is no longer

responsive to her family (basically catatonic unless she is having a

daymare-type episode when no one knows what she is experiencing as she screams

and cries out for help and a recent brain scan showed a " black hole " where a

large portion of her brain should be. How many is too many? All of them are

too many because we were lied to from the beginning. The people currently being

" helped " may face their own hell one day.

Terry

jbc999 <jbc999@...> wrote:

His doctor is a nureolologist.

My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared to

how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

my

head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have side

effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people and

kills 10, then he considers it safe.

He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a few

don't make it.

My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you sat

on

the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die from

it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

the

market. (Percentages only).

Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

john

[Guest guest]

The real issue is not how many people take these drugs and don't kill themselves

or someone else. The main issue is whether these drugs should have ever been

put on the market at all. If the data had been released about the

suicidality/homicidality caused by these drugs, the FDA wouldn't have approved

them at all. That's why they covered up the negative outcomes. Another issue is

of those who believe they are being helped - are they " cured " or made dependent

on a chemical cocktail for the rest of their lives? Many of our members have

spent years on these drugs before coming to a toxic point where they either can

no longer metabolize the drugs or they become ineffective, leading to an

increase in dosage or change in medication, which can trigger a previously

responsive person to have a psychotic episode or breakdown. We weren't even

allowed to know the short-term ramifications, much less have we figured out the

long-term effects. My boss' mother-in-law has been treated with

antidepressants for over 30 years - originally drugs like Ellavil,

amitryptaline, then onto SSRI's for the past 12 years or so. She is no longer

responsive to her family (basically catatonic unless she is having a

daymare-type episode when no one knows what she is experiencing as she screams

and cries out for help and a recent brain scan showed a " black hole " where a

large portion of her brain should be. How many is too many? All of them are

too many because we were lied to from the beginning. The people currently being

" helped " may face their own hell one day.

Terry

jbc999 <jbc999@...> wrote:

His doctor is a nureolologist.

My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared to

how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

my

head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have side

effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people and

kills 10, then he considers it safe.

He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a few

don't make it.

My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you sat

on

the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die from

it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

the

market. (Percentages only).

Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

john

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I don't have any percentages for you. But I wonder if it's

enough just to count the ones who actually commit a murder or

suicide. Isn't just the urge to do so enough? If that is the case, I

strongly suspect the percentage is somewhere in the 50% bracket.

> His doctor is a nureolologist.

>

> My brother, after telling him about possible suicide and violent

> effects, asked me, how many people does this drug help as compared

to

> how many it hurt. He is taking it for pain. He also told me to get

> my

> head out of the computer and face the fact that all drugs have side

> effects. The main issue with him is if it helps a million people

and

> kills 10, then he considers it safe.

>

> He also said that every operation is a risk. Most succeed, but a

few

> don't make it.

>

> My question to fellow members is where is the line drawn. If you sat

> on

> the FDA, what percent of people taking a drug, would have to die

from

> it, before you took it off the market or prevented it from going on

> the

> market. (Percentages only).

>

> Two of his doctors said no to Prozac and Paxil.

>

> john