Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Dawn I agree with you 100%. These people need to be arrested and tried by a jury of their vaccine injured peers. I think most of them know whats going on and are running scared. I have been going head to head with a allopath in the letter to the editor section of our newspaper. We need more people like you sending the main message of your letter to doctors in their areas. I feel your pain and your anger. Keep up the good work. Jim O' Founder of S.I.N.B.A.D Shots in bodies are dangerous Re: Check out The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement I emailed the three doctors the following response: Your Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement is truly appalling. I belong to three community forums where there are literally thousands of families who are either parents of vaccine injured children or are victims themselves. After reading your policy it has become very apparent that you know nothing about vaccines and disease, but just the fears that you remember as a child. Where is YOUR PROOF that vaccines have eradicated disease and where is YOUR PROOF that vaccines are safe? Every time that I ask a doctor or nurse for proof I find that they know nothing about vaccines and they are simply basing their decision on " blind faith " in the system. Please just explain " a few " facts that I have outlined below. I also urge you to DO YOUR HOMEWORK on the subject before putting more children and adults in danger. I've also attached my personal nightmare that I've encountered with vaccines. Shame on your office for giving people false hope on the vaccine issue and for stating that by not vaccinating they are basically selfish! The CDC tells us that 36,000 people die each year from the flu (in order to try to mandate yet another vaccine and of course sell more too). Yet, their MOST RECENT statistics showed that they only reported 1,806 deaths in 2005 (the majority in the elderly). In previous years, it was even less. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? The CDC tells us that 20,000 babies contract congenital rubella each year. Yet, ONE YEAR BEFORE the vaccine came on the market, they only reported 14 cases in 1968 of Congenital Rubella Syndrome. There were even less in previous years. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?? Why is this the case with every vaccine/disease that I have researched? Lies, lies, lies?? I am sure you must have access to these figures. If not, the references are in the book cited below. How about the SV40 Virus? Can you explain why just 6 mo. ago the CDC mentioned nothing of U.S. Citizens receiving this contaminated polio vaccine? Very recently, they changed their story and stated that millions received it. Despite the fact that the virus causes cancer in lab animals, there is no proof yet that it does in humans. I just spoke with a mother whose young child just tested positive for it. How some 50 years later? Why, the cancer causing virus is being transferred genetically of course! So, whether you vaccinate or not, your own future generations will be affected thanks to these lunatics. Why do doctors not practice informed consent with vaccines? Why do they only tell you about " fussiness " or inflammation at the injection site? Do doctors know that the brain has a separate immune system? Do they know what happens to it during and after vaccination? Why do the majority of doctors not report reactions to VAERS? Why do doctors not read the vaccine literature for each and every vaccine? They don't because two different hospitals almost killed me and my baby last year due to their " lack of knowledge " involving vaccines. I now have hearing damage, my child has vision damage and I won't go into the rest of my living hell either (it is attached). IT IS ALL VACCINE RELATED!! Why do doctors not inform you of the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program? Why does .75 cents from the sale of every vaccine go into this fund? How much has been paid out to date? What have they paid out for? I would love to see every healthcare worker jailed for not practicing informed consent. Doesn't it go against your Code of Ethics? Why are we told that formaldehyde is toxic in the air, but it is safe to inject it? Remember the FEMA trailers? My infant received AT LEAST 300 MICROGRAMS OF IT WITH THREE VACCINES! Is that why he suffered from high-pitched screaming, developmental delays, congestion, regression in milestones, etc. According to Easter Seals, it is not normal for a child to regress in achievements. Yet, his pediatrician didn't see a problem? Why isn't everyone working together on the vaccine issue? Why is the media not reporting the truth? I am just a stay at home mom - but even I can pull CDC statistics!! Why is there still mercury in the " mercury free vaccines " ? Why are we lied to? Yes, it is still there because there is NO WAY to remove it 100% because it binds with other agents in the manufacturing process! How many trace shots will trigger Autism? An independent lab (Hapi) tested 4 mercury free vials and THEY ALL HAD MERCURY! Why are we now getting many prescription drugs from China (uninspected too). Oh, I forgot our government poisoned China's children with mercury laced vaccines. Prior to 1999, Autism was unheard of there, they began buying U.S. vaccines, and by 2005 they reported 1.8 million cases! Wasn't it in 2006 that they poisoned our pets, children and food?? Hmmm.... Why hasn't there been a study on the vaccinated/unvaccin ated yet? Why aren't doctors aware of Japan's recent findings on the vaccine/autism link? Why aren't doctors aware of the recent release of the infant primate study (vaccines/autism) ? Why is there a disclaimer on every vaccine that states the following: Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, and Impairment of Fertility: No studies have been done. They don't know if they cause cancer, alter our DNA, or impair our fertility - YET THEY ARE QUITE SAFE??!! http://us.gsk. com/products/ assets/us_ infanrix. pdf (page 7 to view ex. of new warning) My two children and I are all victims of vaccine injuries. I am not making this up, but that is my proof. Vision damage, hearing damage, brain damage, etc. YES, vaccines do a lot of damage! Just talk to the U.S. Dept of Education - in 2007 they reported 1 in 67 children now have autism in elementary school. DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE ARE THAT STUPID TO BLAME IT ON GENETICS OR ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS SOLELY?? FYI - I get my " facts " from the CDC's reported statistics 1 - 5 years BEFORE each vaccine came on the market, along with viewing VAERS, speaking to chemists about the ingredients, and speaking to thousands of other victims out there. Please respond to my questions. The media is a huge part of the problem as to why children and adults alike are still being harmed by these so-called safe and effective vaccines - lies set forth by the AAP and CDC. FYI - it used to be the poor, uneducated population that did not vaccinate their children because they couldn't afford it. Now, studies are showing that it is the parents with a college degree that no longer vaccinate. Sadly, these parents have done their research - which is more than I can say for all of you. A great book is the Vaccine Safety Manual by Neil Z. . Actually, all of his books are wonderful and filled with thousands of references to get you started so that you may see for yourself. It also cites numerous studies (some flawed) for you to review also. I've since FIRED my pediatrician because ignorance is unacceptable in my book. I would hope that many of your patients are smart enough to do the same with you. Did you ever stop to think that vaccines may have started out for the right reasons and then just became all about money? Did you ever think that maybe you doctors are lied to as well as us parents? Of course not because you haven't even done the months of research that many of us parents have done. I've attached my entire personal nightmare for your review. Enjoy. Dawn Crim New Hampshire > > _Click here: The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement_ > (http://www.thebestk ids.com/vaccine- policy2.html) > > Oh boy, someone posted this ped office's policy on vaccines and I wanted to > share it with you guys. It just makes me sick but I know that the truth will > prevail, eventually and doctors like this ought to be the first to be > prosecuted! Amazing isn't it? And even though the AAP claims that they do not > encourage doctors to discriminate based on vaccine choice. > > Mavis > > > > A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and > not as the gift of their chief magistrate. > Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774 > > > _VACCINE RISK AWARENESS NETWORK - " PERSONAL STORY LINKS " _ > (http://www.vran. org/links/ story-links. htm) > > _The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed_ > (http://www.newstarg et.com/Report_ HPV_Vaccine_ 0.html) > > _Vaccination Information & Choice Network - _ > (http://www.nccn. net/~wwithin/ vaccine.htm) > > > _Vaccination Liberation Home Page_ (http://www.vaclib. org/index. htm) > > _ThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine Reactions_ > (http://thinktwice. com/) _National Vaccine Information Center_ (http://909shot. com/) > > > > > ************ **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with > Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. > (http://food. aol.com/tyler- florence? video=4? & NCID=aolfod0003000 0000002) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Thanks, Dawn. I need to read these kinds of posts daily to become more vocal in my daily life. I appreciate you sharing this response with all. Kathy Dawn wrote: > > I emailed the three doctors the following response: > > Your Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement is truly appalling. I belong > to three community forums where there are literally thousands of > families who are either parents of vaccine injured children or are > victims themselves. After reading your policy it has become very > apparent that you know nothing about vaccines and disease, but just > the fears that you remember as a child. Where is YOUR PROOF that > vaccines have eradicated disease and where is YOUR PROOF that > vaccines are safe? Every time that I ask a doctor or nurse for proof > I find that they know nothing about vaccines and they are simply > basing their decision on " blind faith " in the system. Please just > explain " a few " facts that I have outlined below. I also urge you to > DO YOUR HOMEWORK on the subject before putting more children and > adults in danger. I've also attached my personal nightmare that I've > encountered with vaccines. Shame on your office for giving people > false hope on the vaccine issue and for stating that by not > vaccinating they are basically selfish! > > The CDC tells us that 36,000 people die each year from the flu (in > order to try to mandate yet another vaccine and of course sell more > too). Yet, their MOST RECENT statistics showed that they only > reported 1,806 deaths in 2005 (the majority in the elderly). In > previous years, it was even less. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? > > The CDC tells us that 20,000 babies contract congenital rubella each > year. Yet, ONE YEAR BEFORE the vaccine came on the market, they only > reported 14 cases in 1968 of Congenital Rubella Syndrome. There were > even less in previous years. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?? Why is this the > case with every vaccine/disease that I have researched? Lies, lies, > lies?? I am sure you must have access to these figures. If not, the > references are in the book cited below. > > How about the SV40 Virus? Can you explain why just 6 mo. ago the CDC > mentioned nothing of U.S. Citizens receiving this contaminated polio > vaccine? Very recently, they changed their story and stated that > millions received it. Despite the fact that the virus causes cancer > in lab animals, there is no proof yet that it does in humans. I just > spoke with a mother whose young child just tested positive for it. > How some 50 years later? Why, the cancer causing virus is being > transferred genetically of course! So, whether you vaccinate or not, > your own future generations will be affected thanks to these lunatics. > > Why do doctors not practice informed consent with vaccines? Why do > they only tell you about " fussiness " or inflammation at the injection > site? Do doctors know that the brain has a separate immune system? > Do they know what happens to it during and after vaccination? > Why do the majority of doctors not report reactions to VAERS? Why do > doctors not read the vaccine literature for each and every vaccine? > They don't because two different hospitals almost killed me and my > baby last year due to their " lack of knowledge " involving vaccines. > I now have hearing damage, my child has vision damage and I won't go > into the rest of my living hell either (it is attached). IT IS ALL > VACCINE RELATED!! Why do doctors not inform you of the Vaccine > Injury Compensation Program? Why does .75 cents from the sale of > every vaccine go into this fund? How much has been paid out to > date? What have they paid out for? I would love to see every > healthcare worker jailed for not practicing informed consent. > Doesn't it go against your Code of Ethics? > > Why are we told that formaldehyde is toxic in the air, but it is safe > to inject it? Remember the FEMA trailers? My infant received AT > LEAST 300 MICROGRAMS OF IT WITH THREE VACCINES! Is that why he > suffered from high-pitched screaming, developmental delays, > congestion, regression in milestones, etc. According to Easter > Seals, it is not normal for a child to regress in achievements. Yet, > his pediatrician didn't see a problem? Why isn't everyone working > together on the vaccine issue? Why is the media not reporting the > truth? I am just a stay at home mom - but even I can pull CDC > statistics!! > > Why is there still mercury in the " mercury free vaccines " ? Why are > we lied to? Yes, it is still there because there is NO WAY to remove > it 100% because it binds with other agents in the manufacturing > process! How many trace shots will trigger Autism? An independent > lab (Hapi) tested 4 mercury free vials and THEY ALL HAD MERCURY! Why > are we now getting many prescription drugs from China (uninspected > too). Oh, I forgot our government poisoned China's children with > mercury laced vaccines. Prior to 1999, Autism was unheard of there, > they began buying U.S. vaccines, and by 2005 they reported 1.8 > million cases! Wasn't it in 2006 that they poisoned our pets, > children and food?? Hmmm.... > > Why hasn't there been a study on the vaccinated/unvaccinated yet? > Why aren't doctors aware of Japan's recent findings on the > vaccine/autism link? Why aren't doctors aware of the recent release > of the infant primate study (vaccines/autism)? > > Why is there a disclaimer on every vaccine that states the following: > Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, and Impairment of Fertility: No studies > have been done. They don't know if they cause cancer, alter our DNA, > or impair our fertility - YET THEY ARE QUITE SAFE??!! > http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf > <http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf> (page 7 to view > ex. of new warning) > > My two children and I are all victims of vaccine injuries. I am not > making this up, but that is my proof. Vision damage, hearing damage, > brain damage, etc. YES, vaccines do a lot of damage! Just talk to > the U.S. Dept of Education - in 2007 they reported 1 in 67 children > now have autism in elementary school. DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE ARE > THAT STUPID TO BLAME IT ON GENETICS OR ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS SOLELY?? > > FYI - I get my " facts " from the CDC's reported statistics 1 - 5 years > BEFORE each vaccine came on the market, along with viewing VAERS, > speaking to chemists about the ingredients, and speaking to thousands > of other victims out there. > > Please respond to my questions. The media is a huge part of the > problem as to why children and adults alike are still being harmed by > these so-called safe and effective vaccines - lies set forth by the > AAP and CDC. FYI - it used to be the poor, uneducated population > that did not vaccinate their children because they couldn't afford > it. Now, studies are showing that it is the parents with a college > degree that no longer vaccinate. Sadly, these parents have done > their research - which is more than I can say for all of you. A > great book is the Vaccine Safety Manual by Neil Z. . Actually, > all of his books are wonderful and filled with thousands of > references to get you started so that you may see for yourself. It > also cites numerous studies (some flawed) for you to review also. > I've since FIRED my pediatrician because ignorance is unacceptable in > my book. I would hope that many of your patients are smart enough to > do the same with you. > > Did you ever stop to think that vaccines may have started out for the > right reasons and then just became all about money? Did you ever > think that maybe you doctors are lied to as well as us parents? Of > course not because you haven't even done the months of research that > many of us parents have done. > > I've attached my entire personal nightmare for your review. Enjoy. > > Dawn Crim > New Hampshire > > > > > > _Click here: The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement_ > > (http://www.thebestkids.com/vaccine-policy2.html > <http://www.thebestkids.com/vaccine-policy2.html>) > > > > Oh boy, someone posted this ped office's policy on vaccines and I > wanted to > > share it with you guys. It just makes me sick but I know that the > truth will > > prevail, eventually and doctors like this ought to be the first to > be > > prosecuted! Amazing isn't it? And even though the AAP claims > that they do not > > encourage doctors to discriminate based on vaccine choice. > > > > Mavis > > > > > > > > A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of > nature, and > > not as the gift of their chief magistrate. > > Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774 > > > > > > _VACCINE RISK AWARENESS NETWORK - " PERSONAL STORY LINKS " _ > > (http://www.vran.org/links/story-links.htm > <http://www.vran.org/links/story-links.htm>) > > > > _The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed_ > > (http://www.newstarget.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html > <http://www.newstarget.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html>) > > > > _Vaccination Information & Choice Network - _ > > (http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > <http://www.nccn.net/%7Ewwithin/vaccine.htm>) > > > > > > _Vaccination Liberation Home Page_ > (http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm <http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm>) > > > > _ThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine Reactions_ > > (http://thinktwice.com/ <http://thinktwice.com/>) _National Vaccine > Information Center_ > (http://909shot.com/ <http://909shot.com/>) > > > > > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking > with > > Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. > > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? > <http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?> > & NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Nice! I wonder if they would be willing to post it in their office, if they feel so sure of themselves. Winnie Re: Check out The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement Vaccinations > I emailed the three doctors the following response: > > Your Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement is truly appalling. I > belong > to three community forums where there are literally thousands of > families who are either parents of vaccine injured children or > are > victims themselves. After reading your policy it has become > very > apparent that you know nothing about vaccines and disease, but > just > the fears that you remember as a child. Where is YOUR PROOF > that > vaccines have eradicated disease and where is YOUR PROOF that > vaccines are safe? Every time that I ask a doctor or nurse for > proof > I find that they know nothing about vaccines and they are simply > basing their decision on " blind faith " in the system. Please > just > explain " a few " facts that I have outlined below. I also urge > you to > DO YOUR HOMEWORK on the subject before putting more children and > adults in danger. I've also attached my personal nightmare that > I've > encountered with vaccines. Shame on your office for giving > people > false hope on the vaccine issue and for stating that by not > vaccinating they are basically selfish! > > The CDC tells us that 36,000 people die each year from the flu > (in > order to try to mandate yet another vaccine and of course sell > more > too). Yet, their MOST RECENT statistics showed that they only > reported 1,806 deaths in 2005 (the majority in the elderly). In > previous years, it was even less. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? > > The CDC tells us that 20,000 babies contract congenital rubella > each > year. Yet, ONE YEAR BEFORE the vaccine came on the market, they > only > reported 14 cases in 1968 of Congenital Rubella Syndrome. There > were > even less in previous years. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?? Why is > this the > case with every vaccine/disease that I have researched? Lies, > lies, > lies?? I am sure you must have access to these figures. If > not, the > references are in the book cited below. > > How about the SV40 Virus? Can you explain why just 6 mo. ago > the CDC > mentioned nothing of U.S. Citizens receiving this contaminated > polio > vaccine? Very recently, they changed their story and stated > that > millions received it. Despite the fact that the virus causes > cancer > in lab animals, there is no proof yet that it does in humans. I > just > spoke with a mother whose young child just tested positive for > it. > How some 50 years later? Why, the cancer causing virus is being > transferred genetically of course! So, whether you vaccinate or > not, > your own future generations will be affected thanks to these lunatics. > > Why do doctors not practice informed consent with vaccines? Why > do > they only tell you about " fussiness " or inflammation at the > injection > site? Do doctors know that the brain has a separate immune > system? > Do they know what happens to it during and after vaccination? > Why do the majority of doctors not report reactions to VAERS? > Why do > doctors not read the vaccine literature for each and every > vaccine? > They don't because two different hospitals almost killed me and > my > baby last year due to their " lack of knowledge " involving > vaccines. > I now have hearing damage, my child has vision damage and I > won't go > into the rest of my living hell either (it is attached). IT IS > ALL > VACCINE RELATED!! Why do doctors not inform you of the Vaccine > Injury Compensation Program? Why does .75 cents from the sale > of > every vaccine go into this fund? How much has been paid out to > date? What have they paid out for? I would love to see every > healthcare worker jailed for not practicing informed consent. > Doesn't it go against your Code of Ethics? > > Why are we told that formaldehyde is toxic in the air, but it is > safe > to inject it? Remember the FEMA trailers? My infant received > AT > LEAST 300 MICROGRAMS OF IT WITH THREE VACCINES! Is that why he > suffered from high-pitched screaming, developmental delays, > congestion, regression in milestones, etc. According to Easter > Seals, it is not normal for a child to regress in achievements. > Yet, > his pediatrician didn't see a problem? Why isn't everyone > working > together on the vaccine issue? Why is the media not reporting > the > truth? I am just a stay at home mom - but even I can pull CDC > statistics!! > > Why is there still mercury in the " mercury free vaccines " ? Why > are > we lied to? Yes, it is still there because there is NO WAY to > remove > it 100% because it binds with other agents in the manufacturing > process! How many trace shots will trigger Autism? An > independent > lab (Hapi) tested 4 mercury free vials and THEY ALL HAD MERCURY! > Why > are we now getting many prescription drugs from China > (uninspected > too). Oh, I forgot our government poisoned China's children > with > mercury laced vaccines. Prior to 1999, Autism was unheard of > there, > they began buying U.S. vaccines, and by 2005 they reported 1.8 > million cases! Wasn't it in 2006 that they poisoned our pets, > children and food?? Hmmm.... > > Why hasn't there been a study on the vaccinated/unvaccinated > yet? > Why aren't doctors aware of Japan's recent findings on the > vaccine/autism link? Why aren't doctors aware of the recent > release > of the infant primate study (vaccines/autism)? > > Why is there a disclaimer on every vaccine that states the > following: > Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, and Impairment of Fertility: No > studies > have been done. They don't know if they cause cancer, alter our > DNA, > or impair our fertility - YET THEY ARE QUITE SAFE??!! > http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf (page 7 to > view > ex. of new warning) > > My two children and I are all victims of vaccine injuries. I am > not > making this up, but that is my proof. Vision damage, hearing > damage, > brain damage, etc. YES, vaccines do a lot of damage! Just talk > to > the U.S. Dept of Education - in 2007 they reported 1 in 67 > children > now have autism in elementary school. DO YOU REALLY THINK > PEOPLE ARE > THAT STUPID TO BLAME IT ON GENETICS OR ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS SOLELY?? > > FYI - I get my " facts " from the CDC's reported statistics 1 - 5 > years > BEFORE each vaccine came on the market, along with viewing > VAERS, > speaking to chemists about the ingredients, and speaking to > thousands > of other victims out there. > > Please respond to my questions. The media is a huge part of the > problem as to why children and adults alike are still being > harmed by > these so-called safe and effective vaccines - lies set forth by > the > AAP and CDC. FYI - it used to be the poor, uneducated > population > that did not vaccinate their children because they couldn't > afford > it. Now, studies are showing that it is the parents with a > college > degree that no longer vaccinate. Sadly, these parents have done > their research - which is more than I can say for all of you. A > great book is the Vaccine Safety Manual by Neil Z. . > Actually, > all of his books are wonderful and filled with thousands of > references to get you started so that you may see for yourself. > It > also cites numerous studies (some flawed) for you to review > also. > I've since FIRED my pediatrician because ignorance is > unacceptable in > my book. I would hope that many of your patients are smart > enough to > do the same with you. > > Did you ever stop to think that vaccines may have started out > for the > right reasons and then just became all about money? Did you > ever > think that maybe you doctors are lied to as well as us parents? > Of > course not because you haven't even done the months of research > that > many of us parents have done. > > I've attached my entire personal nightmare for your review. Enjoy. > > Dawn Crim > New Hampshire > > > > > > _Click here: The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement_ > > (http://www.thebestkids.com/vaccine-policy2.html) > > > > Oh boy, someone posted this ped office's policy on vaccines > and I > wanted to > > share it with you guys. It just makes me sick but I know > that the > truth will > > prevail, eventually and doctors like this ought to be the > first to > be > > prosecuted! Amazing isn't it? And even though the AAP > claims > that they do not > > encourage doctors to discriminate based on vaccine choice. > > > > Mavis > > > > > > > > A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws > of > nature, and > > not as the gift of their chief magistrate. > > Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774 > > > > > > _VACCINE RISK AWARENESS NETWORK - " PERSONAL STORY LINKS " _ > > (http://www.vran.org/links/story-links.htm) > > > > _The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed_ > > (http://www.newstarget.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html) > > > > _Vaccination Information & Choice Network - _ > > (http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm) > > > > > > _Vaccination Liberation Home Page_ > (http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm) > > > > _ThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine > Reactions_ > > (http://thinktwice.com/) _National Vaccine Information > Center_ > (http://909shot.com/) > > > > > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch > " Cooking > with > > Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. > > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? > & NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 " The victim of its own success " is their mantra. Clearly, the docs aren't writing this. It's coming from on high. Winnie Re: Check out The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement Vaccinations > I almost had to laugh because that is almost word for word what > our > peds have on their website and also spew at you when you go in > for a > visit. Only, they're not as nice about it as these peds were. > So, we > obviously found another doc who is wonderful and now my husband > and I > are going to him too. We also have had other friends remove > their > kids from their practice because of they " scare tactics. " > > I'm sure there are LOTS of peds offices that are now developing > these > letters for their patients. I guess in a way it's a good things > because obviously our movement is getting stronger and they are > getting scared. > > Although, it's ridiculous because we are paying them for a > service! > Not vice versa. I guess they are so rich that they can turn down > business...if only we were all that well off. > > > > > > > > _Click here: The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement_ > > (http://www.thebestkids.com/vaccine-policy2.html) > > > > Oh boy, someone posted this ped office's policy on vaccines > and I > wanted to > > share it with you guys. It just makes me sick but I know > that the > truth will > > prevail, eventually and doctors like this ought to be the > first to > be > > prosecuted! Amazing isn't it? And even though the AAP > claims > that they do not > > encourage doctors to discriminate based on vaccine choice. > > > > Mavis > > > > > > > > A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws > of > nature, and > > not as the gift of their chief magistrate. > > Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774 > > > > > > _VACCINE RISK AWARENESS NETWORK - " PERSONAL STORY LINKS " _ > > (http://www.vran.org/links/story-links.htm) > > > > _The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed_ > > (http://www.newstarget.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html) > > > > _Vaccination Information & Choice Network - _ > > (http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm) > > > > > > _Vaccination Liberation Home Page_ > (http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm) > > > > _ThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine > Reactions_ > > (http://thinktwice.com/) _National Vaccine Information > Center_ > (http://909shot.com/) > > > > > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch > " Cooking > with > > Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. > > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? > & NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Absolutely. What right do they have to demand OUR children take the risk for theirs? If that isn't selfish, nothing is. Winnie Re: Check out The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement Vaccinations > " Furthermore, by not vaccinating your child you are taking > selfish > advantage of thousands of others who do vaccinate their > children, > which decreases the likelihood that your child will contract one > of > these diseases. We feel such an attitude to be self-centered and > unacceptable. " > > I GUESS I'M BEING SELF CENTERED BY NOT RUINING MY NEXT CHILD'S > ENTIRE LIFE WITH AUTISM. HMMM... I WISH PEOPLE WHO WRITE CRAP > LIKE > THIS WOULD HAVE A CHILD WITH AUTISM. I USED TO SAY I'D NEVER > WISH > THAT ON ANYONE, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR > THEM > TO REALIZE THEY ARE THE SELFISH UNACCEPTABLE ONES! > > > > > > > > _Click here: The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement_ > > > (http://www.thebestkids.com/vaccine-policy2.html) > > > > > > Oh boy, someone posted this ped office's policy on vaccines > and > I > > wanted to > > > share it with you guys. It just makes me sick but I know > that > the > > truth will > > > prevail, eventually and doctors like this ought to be the > first > to > > be > > > prosecuted! Amazing isn't it? And even though the AAP > claims > > that they do not > > > encourage doctors to discriminate based on vaccine choice. > > > > > > Mavis > > > > > > > > > > > > A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws > of > > nature, and > > > not as the gift of their chief magistrate. > > > Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774 > > > > > > > > > _VACCINE RISK AWARENESS NETWORK - " PERSONAL STORY LINKS " _ > > > (http://www.vran.org/links/story-links.htm) > > > > > > _The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed_ > > > (http://www.newstarget.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html) > > > > > > _Vaccination Information & Choice Network - _ > > > (http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm) > > > > > > > > > _Vaccination Liberation Home Page_ > > (http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm) > > > > > > _ThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine > Reactions_ > > > (http://thinktwice.com/) _National Vaccine Information > Center_ > > (http://909shot.com/) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. > Watch " Cooking > > with > > > Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. > > > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? > > & NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Don't waste your time supplying them with facts. they won't believe them. If you must, ask them to cite their sources and let them spend time doing the legwork to prove what they say. Winnie Re: Check out The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement Vaccinations > This prompted me to see if our ped has a website and if so what > do they say. They have a > section on immunizations and infectious diseases coming soon. I > found their online > newsletter where they were talking about the CA measles > outbreak. Here's what 1 of the > peds said about it: > > In the 1950's (not all that long ago!) 3-4 million cases of > measles occurred annually in the > United States, causing 4000 cases of encephalitis (brain > infection) 150,000 respiratory > complications, 48,000 hospitalizations, and 450 deaths. Since > the implementation of a 2- > dose immunization schedule in the early 1990's, measles is no > longer prevalent in the US. > Today, all of the 50 or so US cases reported annually were > imported from developed > countries including those in Europe and Asia. What does an > outbreak like this mean for > the rest of us? The bad news is that a disease like measles, now > rare in the US, can still > occur and is still highly infectious and still poses a threat. > The good news is there were no > cases in immunized children, good evidence that the vaccine > provides protection. > > These numbers seem high to me and I wonder what their source is. > I would love to be > able to send stats of my own to contradict this, but > unfortunately I don't know that I have > any at this time.... > > > > > > > > > _Click here: The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement_ > > > (http://www.thebestkids.com/vaccine-policy2.html) > > > > > > Oh boy, someone posted this ped office's policy on vaccines > and I > > wanted to > > > share it with you guys. It just makes me sick but I know > that the > > truth will > > > prevail, eventually and doctors like this ought to be the > first to > > be > > > prosecuted! Amazing isn't it? And even though the AAP > claims > > that they do not > > > encourage doctors to discriminate based on vaccine choice. > > > > > > Mavis > > > > > > > > > > > > A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws > of > > nature, and > > > not as the gift of their chief magistrate. > > > Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774 > > > > > > > > > _VACCINE RISK AWARENESS NETWORK - " PERSONAL STORY LINKS " _ > > > (http://www.vran.org/links/story-links.htm) > > > > > > _The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed_ > > > (http://www.newstarget.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html) > > > > > > _Vaccination Information & Choice Network - _ > > > (http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm) > > > > > > > > > _Vaccination Liberation Home Page_ > > (http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm) > > > > > > _ThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine > Reactions_ > > > (http://thinktwice.com/) _National Vaccine Information > Center_ > > (http://909shot.com/) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch > " Cooking > > with > > > Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. > > > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? > > & NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Hullo godardam. Vent anytime you feel like it! What is the nature of your daughter's genetic mutation. Does it have a name? What have you been trying to do for that condition, and how does it affect her? Glad Day ~ Karla in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Hullo godardam. Vent anytime you feel like it! What is the nature of your daughter's genetic mutation. Does it have a name? What have you been trying to do for that condition, and how does it affect her? Glad Day ~ Karla in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Why does it make us selfish anyway. The wording makes it sound like people who vax may be taking some risks, and we are being selfish by not taking them. If vaccines aren't dangerous, then those who vax, are just vaxing, not being taken advantage of. Fieldman Re: Check out The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement Vaccinations > " Furthermore, by not vaccinating your child you are taking > selfish > advantage of thousands of others who do vaccinate their > children, > which decreases the likelihood that your child will contract one > of > these diseases. We feel such an attitude to be self-centered and > unacceptable. " > > I GUESS I'M BEING SELF CENTERED BY NOT RUINING MY NEXT CHILD'S > ENTIRE LIFE WITH AUTISM. HMMM... I WISH PEOPLE WHO WRITE CRAP > LIKE > THIS WOULD HAVE A CHILD WITH AUTISM. I USED TO SAY I'D NEVER > WISH > THAT ON ANYONE, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR > THEM > TO REALIZE THEY ARE THE SELFISH UNACCEPTABLE ONES! > > > > > > > > _Click here: The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement_ > > > (http://www.thebestkids.com/vaccine-policy2.html) > > > > > > Oh boy, someone posted this ped office's policy on vaccines > and > I > > wanted to > > > share it with you guys. It just makes me sick but I know > that > the > > truth will > > > prevail, eventually and doctors like this ought to be the > first > to > > be > > > prosecuted! Amazing isn't it? And even though the AAP > claims > > that they do not > > > encourage doctors to discriminate based on vaccine choice. > > > > > > Mavis > > > > > > > > > > > > A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws > of > > nature, and > > > not as the gift of their chief magistrate. > > > Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774 > > > > > > > > > _VACCINE RISK AWARENESS NETWORK - " PERSONAL STORY LINKS " _ > > > (http://www.vran.org/links/story-links.htm) > > > > > > _The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed_ > > > (http://www.newstarget.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html) > > > > > > _Vaccination Information & Choice Network - _ > > > (http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm) > > > > > > > > > _Vaccination Liberation Home Page_ > > (http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm) > > > > > > _ThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine > Reactions_ > > > (http://thinktwice.com/) _National Vaccine Information > Center_ > > (http://909shot.com/) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. > Watch " Cooking > > with > > > Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. > > > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? > > & NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Good for you. Say a prayer, God with come through with a real doctor for you and not a drone of the medical establishment. I personally sent them an email telling them how dismayed I was that they never said anything about children that should NOT get vaccines. They didn't say anything in their policy that talks about the dangers of vaccines. Even if you believe in them, you must know and pass along the information that dangers are real. Of course they didn't respond, but that's okay too, it's there. Re: Check out The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement I am so relieved to see others out there struggling with the pediatrician mindwashing. I was just told by our pediatrician that and I quote, "we (the practice vs. parents) are going to have a problem because we (the practice) wholeheartedly believe in vaccination" when I told him that we decided to decline vaccination for our children. He said we were going to be a health risk in the area and was shocked when I told him we were also opting out of the vitamin k shot for a newborn. I asked him if he knew what was in those vaccines and he had a blank expression, then I told him, they are full of poison and it's against God. He basically left it at the practice does not accept patience unless they participate 100% in vaccination programs.I cannot find a pediatrician that allows parents to make that decision, they all feel that the APA knows better.Thanks for letting me vent. I have never posted here before by the way and am a mother of a child with a genetic mutation that I have been researching for two years. I believe with all my heart that this mutation is due to a combination of frankenstien science of pharmaceuticals in vaccines and drugs and poisons in our food like aspartame/MSG because her mutation occurs on a cellular level in the urea cycle dealing with aspartate and citrulline and the enzyme argininosuccinate syntase (spelling?) ASS for short.I am happy to have found your group because there is only one person that I know who obstains from vaccinating her children and everyone else thinks I am an extreamist.Peace to you all!>> _Click here: The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement_ > (http://www.thebestk ids.com/vaccine- policy2.html) > > Oh boy, someone posted this ped office's policy on vaccines and I wanted to > share it with you guys. It just makes me sick but I know that the truth will > prevail, eventually and doctors like this ought to be the first to be > prosecuted! Amazing isn't it? And even though the AAP claims that they do not > encourage doctors to discriminate based on vaccine choice.> > Mavis> > > > A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and > not as the gift of their chief magistrate. > Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774> > > _VACCINE RISK AWARENESS NETWORK -"PERSONAL STORY LINKS"_ > (http://www.vran. org/links/ story-links. htm) > > _The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed_ > (http://www.newstarg et.com/Report_ HPV_Vaccine_ 0.html) > > _Vaccination Information & Choice Network - _ > (http://www.nccn. net/~wwithin/ vaccine.htm) > > > _Vaccination Liberation Home Page_ (http://www.vaclib. org/index. htm) > > _ThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine Reactions_ > (http://thinktwice. com/) _National Vaccine Information Center_ (http://909shot. com/) > > > > > ************ **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food. aol.com/tyler- florence? video=4? & NCID=aolfod0003000 0000002)> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Right! They're admitting there is a serious risk in vaccinating--all the while pretending there isn't!! Idiots. Re: Check out The Best Kids Vaccine > Policy Statement > Vaccinations > > > " Furthermore, by not vaccinating your child you are taking > > selfish > > advantage of thousands of others who do vaccinate their > > children, > > which decreases the likelihood that your child will contract > one > > of > > these diseases. We feel such an attitude to be self-centered > and > > unacceptable. " > > > > I GUESS I'M BEING SELF CENTERED BY NOT RUINING MY NEXT > CHILD'S > > ENTIRE LIFE WITH AUTISM. HMMM... I WISH PEOPLE WHO WRITE > CRAP > > LIKE > > THIS WOULD HAVE A CHILD WITH AUTISM. I USED TO SAY I'D NEVER > > WISH > > THAT ON ANYONE, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE > FOR > > THEM > > TO REALIZE THEY ARE THE SELFISH UNACCEPTABLE ONES! > > > > > > > > > > > > _Click here: The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement_ > > > > (http://www.thebestkids.com/vaccine-policy2.html) > > > > > > > > Oh boy, someone posted this ped office's policy on > vaccines > > and > > I > > > wanted to > > > > share it with you guys. It just makes me sick but I know > > that > > the > > > truth will > > > > prevail, eventually and doctors like this ought to be > the > > first > > to > > > be > > > > prosecuted! Amazing isn't it? And even though the AAP > > claims > > > that they do not > > > > encourage doctors to discriminate based on vaccine choice. > > > > > > > > Mavis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the > laws > > of > > > nature, and > > > > not as the gift of their chief magistrate. > > > > Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774 > > > > > > > > > > > > _VACCINE RISK AWARENESS NETWORK - " PERSONAL STORY LINKS " _ > > > > (http://www.vran.org/links/story-links.htm) > > > > > > > > _The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed_ > > > > (http://www.newstarget.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html) > > > > > > > > _Vaccination Information & Choice Network - _ > > > > (http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm) > > > > > > > > > > > > _Vaccination Liberation Home Page_ > > > (http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm) > > > > > > > > _ThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine > > Reactions_ > > > > (http://thinktwice.com/) _National Vaccine Information > > Center_ > > > (http://909shot.com/) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. > > Watch " Cooking > > > with > > > > Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. > > > > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? > > > & NCID=aolfod00030000000002) > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 My mother-in-law used this argument when she found out (through my husband's sister, we weren't planning to tell her) we weren't vaxing. She seems to think that it's selfish of us to *not* risk our child's health in the name of the greater good, when so many others ARE risking theirs, as we are benefiting from " herd immunity " through all those vaxed kids but not contributing ouselves... apparently that is a popular view of us non-vaxers. I told her that was *their* problem and my responsibility is to my child, not the rest of society. Of course, I care about society and all the other children in the world very much... and I feel NONE of them should be getting jabbed, but that's beside the point. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Fieldman <lisafieldman@...> wrote: > > Why does it make us selfish anyway. The wording makes it sound like people who vax may be taking some risks, and we are being selfish by not taking them. If vaccines aren't dangerous, then those who vax, are just vaxing, not being taken advantage of. > > Fieldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 I've had that said to me, too, that I'm taking a free ride from others. I say, but I don't believe vaccines work so how could I be trying to get a free ride? Furthermore, I didn't make them take the risk. Don't blame me. Winnie Re: Re: Check out The Best Kids Vaccine Policy Statement Vaccinations > My mother-in-law used this argument when she found out (through my > husband's sister, we weren't planning to tell her) we weren't vaxing. > She seems to think that it's selfish of us to *not* risk our child's > health in the name of the greater good, when so many others ARE > risking theirs, as we are benefiting from " herd immunity " > through all > those vaxed kids but not contributing ouselves... apparently > that is a > popular view of us non-vaxers. I told her that was *their* problem > and my responsibility is to my child, not the rest of society. Of > course, I care about society and all the other children in the world > very much... and I feel NONE of them should be getting jabbed, but > that's beside the point. > > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Fieldman > wrote: > > > > Why does it make us selfish anyway. The wording makes it sound > like people who vax may be taking some risks, and we are being > selfish by not taking them. If vaccines aren't dangerous, then > those who vax, are just vaxing, not being taken advantage of. > > > > Fieldman > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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