Re: Alienation from family and friends?

[Guest guest]

I see it too! When people move here (to Beijing) from " civilization " they

undergo a profound change. At first it is very difficult.

But later on, they are MOTIVATED to think, grow, open their minds. Suddenly

pressing concerns about organic food, food safety, air pollution and such get

people MOVING on their research. And sometimes it takes them on interesting

journeys.

There are many non vaxers (Westerners I mean) here in Beijing. I can think of

about 10 families right offhand who I know IN Real Life who do not vaccinate

their kids at all. And another just moved to town!

liora

> And Ann.I'm so glad you made the break from TV too! You are so right.

> People would be so surprised to find out just how much they really can and

> do think for themselves when they pull that plug for good. No more Dan

> Rather telling them what to think. Oh, I think I read somewhere he

> quit...LOL! I never watched him anyway.

>

>

>

> You used the perfect word..hypnotized. Have you ever driven down some

> neighborhood at night and all you see is this blue glow shining through

> every window as you drive by the homes. One after the other. Inside,

> zombies are just sitting in front of that blue glow hour after hour. Sad.

[Guest guest]

I see it too! When people move here (to Beijing) from " civilization " they

undergo a profound change. At first it is very difficult.

But later on, they are MOTIVATED to think, grow, open their minds. Suddenly

pressing concerns about organic food, food safety, air pollution and such get

people MOVING on their research. And sometimes it takes them on interesting

journeys.

There are many non vaxers (Westerners I mean) here in Beijing. I can think of

about 10 families right offhand who I know IN Real Life who do not vaccinate

their kids at all. And another just moved to town!

liora

> And Ann.I'm so glad you made the break from TV too! You are so right.

> People would be so surprised to find out just how much they really can and

> do think for themselves when they pull that plug for good. No more Dan

> Rather telling them what to think. Oh, I think I read somewhere he

> quit...LOL! I never watched him anyway.

>

>

>

> You used the perfect word..hypnotized. Have you ever driven down some

> neighborhood at night and all you see is this blue glow shining through

> every window as you drive by the homes. One after the other. Inside,

> zombies are just sitting in front of that blue glow hour after hour. Sad.

[Guest guest]

My Lord was alienated when speaking the truth. I have a great predecessor.

THings just have to go so far for people to wake up. It makes me sad too. I

friend of mine was in Saigon as it fell. He went to his friends begging for

help after walking over dead bodies. They staged it on New Years and everyone

laughed at him and told him it was just fireworks exploding (making all the

sounds). As the lights turn on for people, the ones who mock you may begin to

ask you for help.

>

> Are any of you experiencing alienation from loved ones due to your beliefs?

My biological family has long considered me a 'nut case' and I am used to it...

however, this vaccine issue has pushed them over the top. I am now a radical,

insane, unpatriotic, etc etc, and none of them are even speaking to me. Zero

contact is available with my 3 children (and 9 grandchildren), this is hard to

take. My 96 yr old mother is in a nursing home and was declared incompetent

this summer, and I am her medical POA. I have flatly refused to allow them to

give her the seasonal flu, and intend to take the same stance over the swine

unpandemic. My sisters position is now that if my mom gets the flu at her age

it will kill her, and that I am endangering her life, she is furious with me,

enlisting the support of everyone else. I feel like the lone ranger of

awareness in a family of sleep walking sheep. As I stand in their midst

shouting 'wake up' at the top of my lungs, no one is listening, and their minds

are made up, don't confuse them with the facts. They all trust the government,

the medical community and the religions.

>

> Of course they cannot budge me, but I guess I didn't anticipate this turn of

events, although I should have. If any of you are experiencing similar issues,

it would be helpful to know how you are coping with them... we need to support

each other in every way we can in this.. it isn't easy, and will only be getting

harder as this thing heats up...

>

[Guest guest]

My Lord was alienated when speaking the truth. I have a great predecessor.

THings just have to go so far for people to wake up. It makes me sad too. I

friend of mine was in Saigon as it fell. He went to his friends begging for

help after walking over dead bodies. They staged it on New Years and everyone

laughed at him and told him it was just fireworks exploding (making all the

sounds). As the lights turn on for people, the ones who mock you may begin to

ask you for help.

>

> Are any of you experiencing alienation from loved ones due to your beliefs?

My biological family has long considered me a 'nut case' and I am used to it...

however, this vaccine issue has pushed them over the top. I am now a radical,

insane, unpatriotic, etc etc, and none of them are even speaking to me. Zero

contact is available with my 3 children (and 9 grandchildren), this is hard to

take. My 96 yr old mother is in a nursing home and was declared incompetent

this summer, and I am her medical POA. I have flatly refused to allow them to

give her the seasonal flu, and intend to take the same stance over the swine

unpandemic. My sisters position is now that if my mom gets the flu at her age

it will kill her, and that I am endangering her life, she is furious with me,

enlisting the support of everyone else. I feel like the lone ranger of

awareness in a family of sleep walking sheep. As I stand in their midst

shouting 'wake up' at the top of my lungs, no one is listening, and their minds

are made up, don't confuse them with the facts. They all trust the government,

the medical community and the religions.

>

> Of course they cannot budge me, but I guess I didn't anticipate this turn of

events, although I should have. If any of you are experiencing similar issues,

it would be helpful to know how you are coping with them... we need to support

each other in every way we can in this.. it isn't easy, and will only be getting

harder as this thing heats up...

>

[Guest guest]

My Lord was alienated when speaking the truth. I have a great predecessor.

THings just have to go so far for people to wake up. It makes me sad too. I

friend of mine was in Saigon as it fell. He went to his friends begging for

help after walking over dead bodies. They staged it on New Years and everyone

laughed at him and told him it was just fireworks exploding (making all the

sounds). As the lights turn on for people, the ones who mock you may begin to

ask you for help.

>

> Are any of you experiencing alienation from loved ones due to your beliefs?

My biological family has long considered me a 'nut case' and I am used to it...

however, this vaccine issue has pushed them over the top. I am now a radical,

insane, unpatriotic, etc etc, and none of them are even speaking to me. Zero

contact is available with my 3 children (and 9 grandchildren), this is hard to

take. My 96 yr old mother is in a nursing home and was declared incompetent

this summer, and I am her medical POA. I have flatly refused to allow them to

give her the seasonal flu, and intend to take the same stance over the swine

unpandemic. My sisters position is now that if my mom gets the flu at her age

it will kill her, and that I am endangering her life, she is furious with me,

enlisting the support of everyone else. I feel like the lone ranger of

awareness in a family of sleep walking sheep. As I stand in their midst

shouting 'wake up' at the top of my lungs, no one is listening, and their minds

are made up, don't confuse them with the facts. They all trust the government,

the medical community and the religions.

>

> Of course they cannot budge me, but I guess I didn't anticipate this turn of

events, although I should have. If any of you are experiencing similar issues,

it would be helpful to know how you are coping with them... we need to support

each other in every way we can in this.. it isn't easy, and will only be getting

harder as this thing heats up...

>

[Guest guest]

My Lord was alienated when speaking the truth. I have a great predecessor.

THings just have to go so far for people to wake up. It makes me sad too. I

friend of mine was in Saigon as it fell. He went to his friends begging for

help after walking over dead bodies. They staged it on New Years and everyone

laughed at him and told him it was just fireworks exploding (making all the

sounds). As the lights turn on for people, the ones who mock you may begin to

ask you for help.

>

> Are any of you experiencing alienation from loved ones due to your beliefs?

My biological family has long considered me a 'nut case' and I am used to it...

however, this vaccine issue has pushed them over the top. I am now a radical,

insane, unpatriotic, etc etc, and none of them are even speaking to me. Zero

contact is available with my 3 children (and 9 grandchildren), this is hard to

take. My 96 yr old mother is in a nursing home and was declared incompetent

this summer, and I am her medical POA. I have flatly refused to allow them to

give her the seasonal flu, and intend to take the same stance over the swine

unpandemic. My sisters position is now that if my mom gets the flu at her age

it will kill her, and that I am endangering her life, she is furious with me,

enlisting the support of everyone else. I feel like the lone ranger of

awareness in a family of sleep walking sheep. As I stand in their midst

shouting 'wake up' at the top of my lungs, no one is listening, and their minds

are made up, don't confuse them with the facts. They all trust the government,

the medical community and the religions.

>

> Of course they cannot budge me, but I guess I didn't anticipate this turn of

events, although I should have. If any of you are experiencing similar issues,

it would be helpful to know how you are coping with them... we need to support

each other in every way we can in this.. it isn't easy, and will only be getting

harder as this thing heats up...

>