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I had the mumps at age 4 or 5. It was NOTHING to worry about. I bareley remember any pain or anything. Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......

And I bet that those still alive to tell the tale belong to my generation.IngridMumps the word!As you know, I'm not exactly a fan of vaccinations. At best, they'reunnecessary. At worst, they're downright deadly. But the fact is that themedical community (read: BIG PHARMA) has done such a bang-up job ofconvincing everyone that they're an absolute necessity that in many cases,you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to be vaccinated.This gross violation of personal freedom was on full display recently whenthe University of Southern Maine sent out notices to 400 students that theywere being banned from campus for failing to meet the latest vaccinationrequirements for mumps. Yes, banned. This isn't anything new, youunderstand. In the not-so-politically correct past, lepers were cut-off fromsociety and left to literally rot in colonies on remote islands. But thesestudents don't have mumps--they just haven't been vaccinated against mumps.Anyone else think this is a violation of personal rights?These notices went out after a recent mumps outbreak throughout the state ofMaine (officials believe this spread down out of Canada). Among the 400who've been banished from the halls of learning (you'd have to wonderexactly what they'd learn at a university that's so willing to employ thesekinds of extreme, Draconian tactics) are 20 students who have declined thevaccinations on religious or philosophical grounds. In other words, thosethat stood up for their rights.How seriously is the University of Southern Maine taking this "dangerous"mumps health threat? So seriously that students who are medically exemptfrom the vaccination are allowed on campus with "special passes." (Remindsme of the Nazis in old movies: "Show me your papers, please!") So now you'rethinking, "Hold on, s -- there's got to be a very good reason forthis. Mumps must be a deadly virus, right?"Wrong.The mumps are painful. There's fever. There's a swelling of the salivaryglands around the jaw. It's not pleasant, and it's another of thosechildhood diseases like chicken pox which is much more painful to weather asan adult. But to be clear: it's not gonna kill you. In fact, most commontreatment for the mumps is an ice bag and a couple of aspirin.In the rarest of rare cases, the results could be a mild form of meningitis,organ infections, Encephalitis (rarely fatal), and sterility in men. And Isuppose these "risks" could be considered serious if the University ofSouthern Maine happened to be located somewhere in the Congo where diseaseis rife, sanitation poor, and medical aid practically nonexistent. But thisis Maine -- and last I heard, that was one of the forty-eight contiguousStates. Hardly the wilds of Africa.So where did the University get the wrong-headed idea that they needed totreat 400 of their student body like disease-ridden pariahs? From Maine'sstate government, of course (I love putting blame where it so often belongs:in the laps of unthinking, butt-covering bureaucrats). The Maine Center forDisease Control and Prevention recommended that these actions be taken, andthey have amended the health codes on states college campuses to require twodoses of the vaccine. Most people receive their first and only mumpsvaccination not long after birth -- it's known as the MMR (the same one thathas been linked to the rise in the number of cases of autism inchildren...).The campus ban has caused all kinds of issues, especially for theUniversity, since it's now their responsibility to work to find off-campushousing for the 400 affected students, and to make special arrangements toallow these students to complete their coursework for the semester.Of course, I'm probably the lone voice in the wilderness decrying thisact -- yet another case of something stupid and dangerously wrong beingenacted in the name of "the common good." But as if to underscore my point,there have been a whopping eight laboratory-confirmed cases of mumps in theentire state of Maine, and just thirty-five suspected cases. So I know who'sbeing ridiculous here. It's not the students -- especially not the 20students who stood firm against the vaccination fascists. And it certainlyisn't me. Who's left? You do the math.A sweet solution for kids' coughsFortunately, not all research concludes that the best cure is always foundat the business end of a hypodermic needle. In a nice counter to thatenraging vaccination story, there's a new study out about a simple,non-medical, and darn tasty solution for children's coughs: a teaspoon ofhoney. According to a study published in the Archives of Pediatrics andAdolescent Medicine, this homey folk remedy was better than cough medicinefor children. It calmed the cough, helped kids sleep better, and coated andsoothed the irritated throat.This report is like a breath of fresh air. There have been recent warningsabout the dangers of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines for childrenyounger than age six, and (shockingly) some Big Pharma companies evenremoved their baby cough-and-cold products from the market. Of course, manyparents already know that honey shouldn't be given to kids from birth untilafter age one (there's a rare but serious danger of botulism).I love it when grandma's old remedies are verified by research. Thisparticular study used 105 kids with upper respiratory infections, some weregiven honey, others a honey-flavored cough medicine. All the kids got betterbut plain-old honey consistently scored higher than the drugs at combatingthe symptoms.Pretty sweet, huh?Helping to keep the needles at bay, s II, M.D.

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I had the mumps at age 4 or 5. It was NOTHING to worry about. I bareley remember any pain or anything. Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......

And I bet that those still alive to tell the tale belong to my generation.IngridMumps the word!As you know, I'm not exactly a fan of vaccinations. At best, they'reunnecessary. At worst, they're downright deadly. But the fact is that themedical community (read: BIG PHARMA) has done such a bang-up job ofconvincing everyone that they're an absolute necessity that in many cases,you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to be vaccinated.This gross violation of personal freedom was on full display recently whenthe University of Southern Maine sent out notices to 400 students that theywere being banned from campus for failing to meet the latest vaccinationrequirements for mumps. Yes, banned. This isn't anything new, youunderstand. In the not-so-politically correct past, lepers were cut-off fromsociety and left to literally rot in colonies on remote islands. But thesestudents don't have mumps--they just haven't been vaccinated against mumps.Anyone else think this is a violation of personal rights?These notices went out after a recent mumps outbreak throughout the state ofMaine (officials believe this spread down out of Canada). Among the 400who've been banished from the halls of learning (you'd have to wonderexactly what they'd learn at a university that's so willing to employ thesekinds of extreme, Draconian tactics) are 20 students who have declined thevaccinations on religious or philosophical grounds. In other words, thosethat stood up for their rights.How seriously is the University of Southern Maine taking this "dangerous"mumps health threat? So seriously that students who are medically exemptfrom the vaccination are allowed on campus with "special passes." (Remindsme of the Nazis in old movies: "Show me your papers, please!") So now you'rethinking, "Hold on, s -- there's got to be a very good reason forthis. Mumps must be a deadly virus, right?"Wrong.The mumps are painful. There's fever. There's a swelling of the salivaryglands around the jaw. It's not pleasant, and it's another of thosechildhood diseases like chicken pox which is much more painful to weather asan adult. But to be clear: it's not gonna kill you. In fact, most commontreatment for the mumps is an ice bag and a couple of aspirin.In the rarest of rare cases, the results could be a mild form of meningitis,organ infections, Encephalitis (rarely fatal), and sterility in men. And Isuppose these "risks" could be considered serious if the University ofSouthern Maine happened to be located somewhere in the Congo where diseaseis rife, sanitation poor, and medical aid practically nonexistent. But thisis Maine -- and last I heard, that was one of the forty-eight contiguousStates. Hardly the wilds of Africa.So where did the University get the wrong-headed idea that they needed totreat 400 of their student body like disease-ridden pariahs? From Maine'sstate government, of course (I love putting blame where it so often belongs:in the laps of unthinking, butt-covering bureaucrats). The Maine Center forDisease Control and Prevention recommended that these actions be taken, andthey have amended the health codes on states college campuses to require twodoses of the vaccine. Most people receive their first and only mumpsvaccination not long after birth -- it's known as the MMR (the same one thathas been linked to the rise in the number of cases of autism inchildren...).The campus ban has caused all kinds of issues, especially for theUniversity, since it's now their responsibility to work to find off-campushousing for the 400 affected students, and to make special arrangements toallow these students to complete their coursework for the semester.Of course, I'm probably the lone voice in the wilderness decrying thisact -- yet another case of something stupid and dangerously wrong beingenacted in the name of "the common good." But as if to underscore my point,there have been a whopping eight laboratory-confirmed cases of mumps in theentire state of Maine, and just thirty-five suspected cases. So I know who'sbeing ridiculous here. It's not the students -- especially not the 20students who stood firm against the vaccination fascists. And it certainlyisn't me. Who's left? You do the math.A sweet solution for kids' coughsFortunately, not all research concludes that the best cure is always foundat the business end of a hypodermic needle. In a nice counter to thatenraging vaccination story, there's a new study out about a simple,non-medical, and darn tasty solution for children's coughs: a teaspoon ofhoney. According to a study published in the Archives of Pediatrics andAdolescent Medicine, this homey folk remedy was better than cough medicinefor children. It calmed the cough, helped kids sleep better, and coated andsoothed the irritated throat.This report is like a breath of fresh air. There have been recent warningsabout the dangers of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines for childrenyounger than age six, and (shockingly) some Big Pharma companies evenremoved their baby cough-and-cold products from the market. Of course, manyparents already know that honey shouldn't be given to kids from birth untilafter age one (there's a rare but serious danger of botulism).I love it when grandma's old remedies are verified by research. Thisparticular study used 105 kids with upper respiratory infections, some weregiven honey, others a honey-flavored cough medicine. All the kids got betterbut plain-old honey consistently scored higher than the drugs at combatingthe symptoms.Pretty sweet, huh?Helping to keep the needles at bay, s II, M.D.

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according to 'They', the mandate is from World Health Org.On Jul 17, 2552 BE, at 09:21, Ingrid Blank wrote:And I bet that those still alive to tell the tale belong to my generation.IngridMumps the word!As you know, I'm not exactly a fan of vaccinations. At best, they'reunnecessary. At worst, they're downright deadly. But the fact is that themedical community (read: BIG PHARMA) has done such a bang-up job ofconvincing everyone that they're an absolute necessity that in many cases,you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to be vaccinated.This gross violation of personal freedom was on full display recently whenthe University of Southern Maine sent out notices to 400 students that theywere being banned from campus for failing to meet the latest vaccinationrequirements for mumps. Yes, banned. This isn't anything new, youunderstand. In the not-so-politically correct past, lepers were cut-off fromsociety and left to literally rot in colonies on remote islands. But thesestudents don't have mumps--they just haven't been vaccinated against mumps.Anyone else think this is a violation of personal rights?These notices went out after a recent mumps outbreak throughout the state ofMaine (officials believe this spread down out of Canada). Among the 400who've been banished from the halls of learning (you'd have to wonderexactly what they'd learn at a university that's so willing to employ thesekinds of extreme, Draconian tactics) are 20 students who have declined thevaccinations on religious or philosophical grounds. In other words, thosethat stood up for their rights.How seriously is the University of Southern Maine taking this "dangerous"mumps health threat? So seriously that students who are medically exemptfrom the vaccination are allowed on campus with "special passes." (Remindsme of the Nazis in old movies: "Show me your papers, please!") So now you'rethinking, "Hold on, s -- there's got to be a very good reason forthis. Mumps must be a deadly virus, right?"Wrong.The mumps are painful. There's fever. There's a swelling of the salivaryglands around the jaw. It's not pleasant, and it's another of thosechildhood diseases like chicken pox which is much more painful to weather asan adult. But to be clear: it's not gonna kill you. In fact, most commontreatment for the mumps is an ice bag and a couple of aspirin.In the rarest of rare cases, the results could be a mild form of meningitis,organ infections, Encephalitis (rarely fatal), and sterility in men. And Isuppose these "risks" could be considered serious if the University ofSouthern Maine happened to be located somewhere in the Congo where diseaseis rife, sanitation poor, and medical aid practically nonexistent. But thisis Maine -- and last I heard, that was one of the forty-eight contiguousStates. Hardly the wilds of Africa.So where did the University get the wrong-headed idea that they needed totreat 400 of their student body like disease-ridden pariahs? From Maine'sstate government, of course (I love putting blame where it so often belongs:in the laps of unthinking, butt-covering bureaucrats). The Maine Center forDisease Control and Prevention recommended that these actions be taken, andthey have amended the health codes on states college campuses to require twodoses of the vaccine. Most people receive their first and only mumpsvaccination not long after birth -- it's known as the MMR (the same one thathas been linked to the rise in the number of cases of autism inchildren...).The campus ban has caused all kinds of issues, especially for theUniversity, since it's now their responsibility to work to find off-campushousing for the 400 affected students, and to make special arrangements toallow these students to complete their coursework for the semester.Of course, I'm probably the lone voice in the wilderness decrying thisact -- yet another case of something stupid and dangerously wrong beingenacted in the name of "the common good." But as if to underscore my point,there have been a whopping eight laboratory-confirmed cases of mumps in theentire state of Maine, and just thirty-five suspected cases. So I know who'sbeing ridiculous here. It's not the students -- especially not the 20students who stood firm against the vaccination fascists. And it certainlyisn't me. Who's left? You do the math.A sweet solution for kids' coughsFortunately, not all research concludes that the best cure is always foundat the business end of a hypodermic needle. In a nice counter to thatenraging vaccination story, there's a new study out about a simple,non-medical, and darn tasty solution for children's coughs: a teaspoon ofhoney. According to a study published in the Archives of Pediatrics andAdolescent Medicine, this homey folk remedy was better than cough medicinefor children. It calmed the cough, helped kids sleep better, and coated andsoothed the irritated throat.This report is like a breath of fresh air. There have been recent warningsabout the dangers of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines for childrenyounger than age six, and (shockingly) some Big Pharma companies evenremoved their baby cough-and-cold products from the market. Of course, manyparents already know that honey shouldn't be given to kids from birth untilafter age one (there's a rare but serious danger of botulism).I love it when grandma's old remedies are verified by research. Thisparticular study used 105 kids with upper respiratory infections, some weregiven honey, others a honey-flavored cough medicine. All the kids got betterbut plain-old honey consistently scored higher than the drugs at combatingthe symptoms.Pretty sweet, huh?Helping to keep the needles at bay, s II, M.D.

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according to 'They', the mandate is from World Health Org.On Jul 17, 2552 BE, at 09:21, Ingrid Blank wrote:And I bet that those still alive to tell the tale belong to my generation.IngridMumps the word!As you know, I'm not exactly a fan of vaccinations. At best, they'reunnecessary. At worst, they're downright deadly. But the fact is that themedical community (read: BIG PHARMA) has done such a bang-up job ofconvincing everyone that they're an absolute necessity that in many cases,you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to be vaccinated.This gross violation of personal freedom was on full display recently whenthe University of Southern Maine sent out notices to 400 students that theywere being banned from campus for failing to meet the latest vaccinationrequirements for mumps. Yes, banned. This isn't anything new, youunderstand. In the not-so-politically correct past, lepers were cut-off fromsociety and left to literally rot in colonies on remote islands. But thesestudents don't have mumps--they just haven't been vaccinated against mumps.Anyone else think this is a violation of personal rights?These notices went out after a recent mumps outbreak throughout the state ofMaine (officials believe this spread down out of Canada). Among the 400who've been banished from the halls of learning (you'd have to wonderexactly what they'd learn at a university that's so willing to employ thesekinds of extreme, Draconian tactics) are 20 students who have declined thevaccinations on religious or philosophical grounds. In other words, thosethat stood up for their rights.How seriously is the University of Southern Maine taking this "dangerous"mumps health threat? So seriously that students who are medically exemptfrom the vaccination are allowed on campus with "special passes." (Remindsme of the Nazis in old movies: "Show me your papers, please!") So now you'rethinking, "Hold on, s -- there's got to be a very good reason forthis. Mumps must be a deadly virus, right?"Wrong.The mumps are painful. There's fever. There's a swelling of the salivaryglands around the jaw. It's not pleasant, and it's another of thosechildhood diseases like chicken pox which is much more painful to weather asan adult. But to be clear: it's not gonna kill you. In fact, most commontreatment for the mumps is an ice bag and a couple of aspirin.In the rarest of rare cases, the results could be a mild form of meningitis,organ infections, Encephalitis (rarely fatal), and sterility in men. And Isuppose these "risks" could be considered serious if the University ofSouthern Maine happened to be located somewhere in the Congo where diseaseis rife, sanitation poor, and medical aid practically nonexistent. But thisis Maine -- and last I heard, that was one of the forty-eight contiguousStates. Hardly the wilds of Africa.So where did the University get the wrong-headed idea that they needed totreat 400 of their student body like disease-ridden pariahs? From Maine'sstate government, of course (I love putting blame where it so often belongs:in the laps of unthinking, butt-covering bureaucrats). The Maine Center forDisease Control and Prevention recommended that these actions be taken, andthey have amended the health codes on states college campuses to require twodoses of the vaccine. Most people receive their first and only mumpsvaccination not long after birth -- it's known as the MMR (the same one thathas been linked to the rise in the number of cases of autism inchildren...).The campus ban has caused all kinds of issues, especially for theUniversity, since it's now their responsibility to work to find off-campushousing for the 400 affected students, and to make special arrangements toallow these students to complete their coursework for the semester.Of course, I'm probably the lone voice in the wilderness decrying thisact -- yet another case of something stupid and dangerously wrong beingenacted in the name of "the common good." But as if to underscore my point,there have been a whopping eight laboratory-confirmed cases of mumps in theentire state of Maine, and just thirty-five suspected cases. So I know who'sbeing ridiculous here. It's not the students -- especially not the 20students who stood firm against the vaccination fascists. And it certainlyisn't me. Who's left? You do the math.A sweet solution for kids' coughsFortunately, not all research concludes that the best cure is always foundat the business end of a hypodermic needle. In a nice counter to thatenraging vaccination story, there's a new study out about a simple,non-medical, and darn tasty solution for children's coughs: a teaspoon ofhoney. According to a study published in the Archives of Pediatrics andAdolescent Medicine, this homey folk remedy was better than cough medicinefor children. It calmed the cough, helped kids sleep better, and coated andsoothed the irritated throat.This report is like a breath of fresh air. There have been recent warningsabout the dangers of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines for childrenyounger than age six, and (shockingly) some Big Pharma companies evenremoved their baby cough-and-cold products from the market. Of course, manyparents already know that honey shouldn't be given to kids from birth untilafter age one (there's a rare but serious danger of botulism).I love it when grandma's old remedies are verified by research. Thisparticular study used 105 kids with upper respiratory infections, some weregiven honey, others a honey-flavored cough medicine. All the kids got betterbut plain-old honey consistently scored higher than the drugs at combatingthe symptoms.Pretty sweet, huh?Helping to keep the needles at bay, s II, M.D.

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i just went to our health department and picked up three notarized religious exemption from vaccine forms for my kids...wonder how long they will hold up... anyone tried this, have any comments? they cant make you prove its your religion, so...

 

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i just went to our health department and picked up three notarized religious exemption from vaccine forms for my kids...wonder how long they will hold up... anyone tried this, have any comments? they cant make you prove its your religion, so...

 

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Yes. I had the mumps when I was about 9 or 10--I remember it distinctly because I had them over my parents wedding anniversary--April 10th. Let's see, that would make it 1955, give or take a year or two. I also remember it very clearly because my father told me I looked like Nixon and his "jowly" countenance. Heaven forbid!!! ~~Ruth

Re: Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......

according to 'They', the mandate is from World Health Org.

On Jul 17, 2552 BE, at 09:21, Ingrid Blank wrote:

And I bet that those still alive to tell the tale belong to my generation.IngridMumps the word!As you know, I'm not exactly a fan of vaccinations. At best, they'reunnecessary. At worst, they're downright deadly. But the fact is that themedical community (read: BIG PHARMA) has done such a bang-up job ofconvincing everyone that they're an absolute necessity that in many cases,you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to be vaccinated.This gross violation of personal freedom was on full display recently whenthe University of Southern Maine sent out notices to 400 students that theywere being banned from campus for failing to meet the latest vaccinationrequirements for mumps. Yes, banned. This isn't anything new, youunderstand. In the not-so-politically correct past, lepers were cut-off fromsociety and left to literally rot in colonies on remote islands. But thesestudents don't have mumps--they just haven't been vaccinated against mumps.Anyone else think this is a violation of personal rights?These notices went out after a recent mumps outbreak throughout the state ofMaine (officials believe this spread down out of Canada). Among the 400who've been banished from the halls of learning (you'd have to wonderexactly what they'd learn at a university that's so willing to employ thesekinds of extreme, Draconian tactics) are 20 students who have declined thevaccinations on religious or philosophical grounds. In other words, thosethat stood up for their rights.How seriously is the University of Southern Maine taking this "dangerous"mumps health threat? So seriously that students who are medically exemptfrom the vaccination are allowed on campus with "special passes." (Remindsme of the Nazis in old movies: "Show me your papers, please!") So now you'rethinking, "Hold on, s -- there's got to be a very good reason forthis. Mumps must be a deadly virus, right?"Wrong.The mumps are painful. There's fever. There's a swelling of the salivaryglands around the jaw. It's not pleasant, and it's another of thosechildhood diseases like chicken pox which is much more painful to weather asan adult. But to be clear: it's not gonna kill you. In fact, most commontreatment for the mumps is an ice bag and a couple of aspirin.In the rarest of rare cases, the results could be a mild form of meningitis,organ infections, Encephalitis (rarely fatal), and sterility in men. And Isuppose these "risks" could be considered serious if the University ofSouthern Maine happened to be located somewhere in the Congo where diseaseis rife, sanitation poor, and medical aid practically nonexistent. But thisis Maine -- and last I heard, that was one of the forty-eight contiguousStates. Hardly the wilds of Africa.So where did the University get the wrong-headed idea that they needed totreat 400 of their student body like disease-ridden pariahs? From Maine'sstate government, of course (I love putting blame where it so often belongs:in the laps of unthinking, butt-covering bureaucrats). The Maine Center forDisease Control and Prevention recommended that these actions be taken, andthey have amended the health codes on states college campuses to require twodoses of the vaccine. Most people receive their first and only mumpsvaccination not long after birth -- it's known as the MMR (the same one thathas been linked to the rise in the number of cases of autism inchildren...).The campus ban has caused all kinds of issues, especially for theUniversity, since it's now their responsibility to work to find off-campushousing for the 400 affected students, and to make special arrangements toallow these students to complete their coursework for the semester.Of course, I'm probably the lone voice in the wilderness decrying thisact -- yet another case of something stupid and dangerously wrong beingenacted in the name of "the common good." But as if to underscore my point,there have been a whopping eight laboratory-confirmed cases of mumps in theentire state of Maine, and just thirty-five suspected cases. So I know who'sbeing ridiculous here. It's not the students -- especially not the 20students who stood firm against the vaccination fascists. And it certainlyisn't me. Who's left? You do the math.A sweet solution for kids' coughsFortunately, not all research concludes that the best cure is always foundat the business end of a hypodermic needle. In a nice counter to thatenraging vaccination story, there's a new study out about a simple,non-medical, and darn tasty solution for children's coughs: a teaspoon ofhoney. According to a study published in the Archives of Pediatrics andAdolescent Medicine, this homey folk remedy was better than cough medicinefor children. It calmed the cough, helped kids sleep better, and coated andsoothed the irritated throat.This report is like a breath of fresh air. There have been recent warningsabout the dangers of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines for childrenyounger than age six, and (shockingly) some Big Pharma companies evenremoved their baby cough-and-cold products from the market. Of course, manyparents already know that honey shouldn't be given to kids from birth untilafter age one (there's a rare but serious danger of botulism).I love it when grandma's old remedies are verified by research. Thisparticular study used 105 kids with upper respiratory infections, some weregiven honey, others a honey-flavored cough medicine. All the kids got betterbut plain-old honey consistently scored higher than the drugs at combatingthe symptoms.Pretty sweet, huh?Helping to keep the needles at bay, s II, M.D.

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Yes. I had the mumps when I was about 9 or 10--I remember it distinctly because I had them over my parents wedding anniversary--April 10th. Let's see, that would make it 1955, give or take a year or two. I also remember it very clearly because my father told me I looked like Nixon and his "jowly" countenance. Heaven forbid!!! ~~Ruth

Re: Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......

according to 'They', the mandate is from World Health Org.

On Jul 17, 2552 BE, at 09:21, Ingrid Blank wrote:

And I bet that those still alive to tell the tale belong to my generation.IngridMumps the word!As you know, I'm not exactly a fan of vaccinations. At best, they'reunnecessary. At worst, they're downright deadly. But the fact is that themedical community (read: BIG PHARMA) has done such a bang-up job ofconvincing everyone that they're an absolute necessity that in many cases,you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to be vaccinated.This gross violation of personal freedom was on full display recently whenthe University of Southern Maine sent out notices to 400 students that theywere being banned from campus for failing to meet the latest vaccinationrequirements for mumps. Yes, banned. This isn't anything new, youunderstand. In the not-so-politically correct past, lepers were cut-off fromsociety and left to literally rot in colonies on remote islands. But thesestudents don't have mumps--they just haven't been vaccinated against mumps.Anyone else think this is a violation of personal rights?These notices went out after a recent mumps outbreak throughout the state ofMaine (officials believe this spread down out of Canada). Among the 400who've been banished from the halls of learning (you'd have to wonderexactly what they'd learn at a university that's so willing to employ thesekinds of extreme, Draconian tactics) are 20 students who have declined thevaccinations on religious or philosophical grounds. In other words, thosethat stood up for their rights.How seriously is the University of Southern Maine taking this "dangerous"mumps health threat? So seriously that students who are medically exemptfrom the vaccination are allowed on campus with "special passes." (Remindsme of the Nazis in old movies: "Show me your papers, please!") So now you'rethinking, "Hold on, s -- there's got to be a very good reason forthis. Mumps must be a deadly virus, right?"Wrong.The mumps are painful. There's fever. There's a swelling of the salivaryglands around the jaw. It's not pleasant, and it's another of thosechildhood diseases like chicken pox which is much more painful to weather asan adult. But to be clear: it's not gonna kill you. In fact, most commontreatment for the mumps is an ice bag and a couple of aspirin.In the rarest of rare cases, the results could be a mild form of meningitis,organ infections, Encephalitis (rarely fatal), and sterility in men. And Isuppose these "risks" could be considered serious if the University ofSouthern Maine happened to be located somewhere in the Congo where diseaseis rife, sanitation poor, and medical aid practically nonexistent. But thisis Maine -- and last I heard, that was one of the forty-eight contiguousStates. Hardly the wilds of Africa.So where did the University get the wrong-headed idea that they needed totreat 400 of their student body like disease-ridden pariahs? From Maine'sstate government, of course (I love putting blame where it so often belongs:in the laps of unthinking, butt-covering bureaucrats). The Maine Center forDisease Control and Prevention recommended that these actions be taken, andthey have amended the health codes on states college campuses to require twodoses of the vaccine. Most people receive their first and only mumpsvaccination not long after birth -- it's known as the MMR (the same one thathas been linked to the rise in the number of cases of autism inchildren...).The campus ban has caused all kinds of issues, especially for theUniversity, since it's now their responsibility to work to find off-campushousing for the 400 affected students, and to make special arrangements toallow these students to complete their coursework for the semester.Of course, I'm probably the lone voice in the wilderness decrying thisact -- yet another case of something stupid and dangerously wrong beingenacted in the name of "the common good." But as if to underscore my point,there have been a whopping eight laboratory-confirmed cases of mumps in theentire state of Maine, and just thirty-five suspected cases. So I know who'sbeing ridiculous here. It's not the students -- especially not the 20students who stood firm against the vaccination fascists. And it certainlyisn't me. Who's left? You do the math.A sweet solution for kids' coughsFortunately, not all research concludes that the best cure is always foundat the business end of a hypodermic needle. In a nice counter to thatenraging vaccination story, there's a new study out about a simple,non-medical, and darn tasty solution for children's coughs: a teaspoon ofhoney. According to a study published in the Archives of Pediatrics andAdolescent Medicine, this homey folk remedy was better than cough medicinefor children. It calmed the cough, helped kids sleep better, and coated andsoothed the irritated throat.This report is like a breath of fresh air. There have been recent warningsabout the dangers of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines for childrenyounger than age six, and (shockingly) some Big Pharma companies evenremoved their baby cough-and-cold products from the market. Of course, manyparents already know that honey shouldn't be given to kids from birth untilafter age one (there's a rare but serious danger of botulism).I love it when grandma's old remedies are verified by research. Thisparticular study used 105 kids with upper respiratory infections, some weregiven honey, others a honey-flavored cough medicine. All the kids got betterbut plain-old honey consistently scored higher than the drugs at combatingthe symptoms.Pretty sweet, huh?Helping to keep the needles at bay, s II, M.D.

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My brother, sister, and I all had the mumps when we were kids.

It was hard to eat pickles.

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Yes. I had the mumps when I was about 9 or 10--I remember it distinctly because I had them over my parents wedding anniversary--April 10th. Let's see, that would make it 1955, give or take a year or two. I also remember it very clearly because my father told me I looked like Nixon and his " jowly " countenance. Heaven forbid!!!  ~~Ruth

 

 

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My brother, sister, and I all had the mumps when we were kids.

It was hard to eat pickles.

As bad as the mumps were, they were still preferable to going to school!Changing the world isn’t just my dream.It’s my responsibility!http://www.getpaidtochangetheworld.com

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Yes. I had the mumps when I was about 9 or 10--I remember it distinctly because I had them over my parents wedding anniversary--April 10th. Let's see, that would make it 1955, give or take a year or two. I also remember it very clearly because my father told me I looked like Nixon and his " jowly " countenance. Heaven forbid!!!  ~~Ruth

 

 

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School far less likely to be fatal, too. I was beaten nearly to death at age 8 by the principal's son at a new school in 1954, mostly unconscious for 3 weeks. I never saw the kid before, he was about seven years older and had done this to others as well. The year before that I was beaten daily by up to five kids at once beneath the principal's office window for at least three months, no one taking notice until I fnally started hitting back, landing myself in treatment for undergoing medical tests for "psychological deafness." I was also diagnosed as retarded and demoted back to 1st grade at the end of the 3rd. Again, I fought back, kept my faith in the pubic school system for decades in spite of more of this, and became a nearly straight A student some years later, volunteered for Vietnam so that I could afford college, finished 8 years uni study in

biology/chem/math, MS Soils/chemistry, 3.84 gpa, focus statistical design. I finished pretty much as I started in the town I was born, 2005, working next to the DOJ for a "research" company funded by the gov, major pharma companies, and WAMU bank, and absolutely, YES, this was the federal operated cocaine distribution racket accurately described by Chip Tatum circa 92 before his apparent torture and murder not long ago. I was a bit slow to develop in the 50s, though, which even then I suspected was due to too many vaccs and amalscams, finally verified by 2005 after years observing the horrific damage the lying bastards did to my wife and children. No errors made in that conclusion, nor in the fact of the cocaine racket.

Yes. I had the mumps when I was about 9 or 10--I remember it distinctly because I had them over my parents wedding anniversary- -April 10th. Let's see, that would make it 1955, give or take a year or two. I also remember it very clearly because my father told me I looked like Nixon and his "jowly" countenance. Heaven forbid!!! ~~Ruth

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School far less likely to be fatal, too. I was beaten nearly to death at age 8 by the principal's son at a new school in 1954, mostly unconscious for 3 weeks. I never saw the kid before, he was about seven years older and had done this to others as well. The year before that I was beaten daily by up to five kids at once beneath the principal's office window for at least three months, no one taking notice until I fnally started hitting back, landing myself in treatment for undergoing medical tests for "psychological deafness." I was also diagnosed as retarded and demoted back to 1st grade at the end of the 3rd. Again, I fought back, kept my faith in the pubic school system for decades in spite of more of this, and became a nearly straight A student some years later, volunteered for Vietnam so that I could afford college, finished 8 years uni study in

biology/chem/math, MS Soils/chemistry, 3.84 gpa, focus statistical design. I finished pretty much as I started in the town I was born, 2005, working next to the DOJ for a "research" company funded by the gov, major pharma companies, and WAMU bank, and absolutely, YES, this was the federal operated cocaine distribution racket accurately described by Chip Tatum circa 92 before his apparent torture and murder not long ago. I was a bit slow to develop in the 50s, though, which even then I suspected was due to too many vaccs and amalscams, finally verified by 2005 after years observing the horrific damage the lying bastards did to my wife and children. No errors made in that conclusion, nor in the fact of the cocaine racket.

Yes. I had the mumps when I was about 9 or 10--I remember it distinctly because I had them over my parents wedding anniversary- -April 10th. Let's see, that would make it 1955, give or take a year or two. I also remember it very clearly because my father told me I looked like Nixon and his "jowly" countenance. Heaven forbid!!! ~~Ruth

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Alan,

My God, what a psychopath. Horrific what you went through.

Enduring the bullying for years to come, for this I'm sad to think

a child is being tormented at an institution of " education " that

made their behavior your problem.

Having read your posts over the last couple days I imagine what

I see now, others saw then but they didn't understand it. Different

means weaker, I don't think so...I was bullied too though not within

an inch of my life. Look at what they missed, look at who you are and

what you do and what you know...what you have become even after

all that pain.

Wow, they couldn't beat the genius out of you nor the heart.

In no-forced-vaccination , " Alan Foossolvesunified.com "

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> School far less likely to be fatal, too. I was beaten nearly to death at age 8

by the principal's son at a new school in 1954, mostly unconscious for 3 weeks.

I never saw the kid before, he was about seven years older and had done this to

others as well. The year before that I was beaten daily by up to five kids at

once beneath the principal's office window for at least three months, no one

taking notice until I fnally started hitting back, landing myself in treatment

for undergoing medical tests for " psychological deafness. " I was also diagnosed

as retarded and demoted back to 1st grade at the end of the 3rd. Again, I fought

back, kept my faith in the pubic school system for decades in spite of more of

this, and became a nearly straight A student some years later, volunteered for

Vietnam so that I could afford college, finished 8 years uni study in

biology/chem/math, MS Soils/chemistry, 3.84 gpa, focus statistical design. I

finished pretty much as I

> started in the town I was born, 2005, working next to the DOJ for a

" research " company funded by the gov, major pharma companies, and WAMU bank, and

absolutely, YES, this was the federal operated cocaine distribution racket

accurately described by Chip Tatum circa 92 before his apparent torture and

murder not long ago. I was a bit slow to develop in the 50s, though, which even

then I suspected was due to too many vaccs and amalscams, finally verified by

2005 after years observing the horrific damage the lying bastards did to my wife

and children. No errors made in that conclusion, nor in the fact of the cocaine

racket.

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because I had them over my parents wedding anniversary- -April 10th. Let's see,

that would make it 1955, give or take a year or two. I also remember it very

clearly because my father told me I looked like Nixon and his " jowly "

countenance. Heaven forbid!!!  ~~Ruth

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Alan,

My God, what a psychopath. Horrific what you went through.

Enduring the bullying for years to come, for this I'm sad to think

a child is being tormented at an institution of " education " that

made their behavior your problem.

Having read your posts over the last couple days I imagine what

I see now, others saw then but they didn't understand it. Different

means weaker, I don't think so...I was bullied too though not within

an inch of my life. Look at what they missed, look at who you are and

what you do and what you know...what you have become even after

all that pain.

Wow, they couldn't beat the genius out of you nor the heart.

In no-forced-vaccination , " Alan Foossolvesunified.com "

<cusanusnicolas@...> wrote:

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> School far less likely to be fatal, too. I was beaten nearly to death at age 8

by the principal's son at a new school in 1954, mostly unconscious for 3 weeks.

I never saw the kid before, he was about seven years older and had done this to

others as well. The year before that I was beaten daily by up to five kids at

once beneath the principal's office window for at least three months, no one

taking notice until I fnally started hitting back, landing myself in treatment

for undergoing medical tests for " psychological deafness. " I was also diagnosed

as retarded and demoted back to 1st grade at the end of the 3rd. Again, I fought

back, kept my faith in the pubic school system for decades in spite of more of

this, and became a nearly straight A student some years later, volunteered for

Vietnam so that I could afford college, finished 8 years uni study in

biology/chem/math, MS Soils/chemistry, 3.84 gpa, focus statistical design. I

finished pretty much as I

> started in the town I was born, 2005, working next to the DOJ for a

" research " company funded by the gov, major pharma companies, and WAMU bank, and

absolutely, YES, this was the federal operated cocaine distribution racket

accurately described by Chip Tatum circa 92 before his apparent torture and

murder not long ago. I was a bit slow to develop in the 50s, though, which even

then I suspected was due to too many vaccs and amalscams, finally verified by

2005 after years observing the horrific damage the lying bastards did to my wife

and children. No errors made in that conclusion, nor in the fact of the cocaine

racket.

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> Yes. I had the mumps when I was about 9 or 10--I remember it distinctly

because I had them over my parents wedding anniversary- -April 10th. Let's see,

that would make it 1955, give or take a year or two. I also remember it very

clearly because my father told me I looked like Nixon and his " jowly "

countenance. Heaven forbid!!!  ~~Ruth

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Would this decision possibly draw extra, unwanted attention to a family during a mandatory vaccine push in the future?

>> i just went to our health department and picked up three notarized religious> exemption from vaccine forms for my kids...wonder how long they will hold> up... anyone tried this, have any comments? they cant make you prove its> your religion, so...

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Would this decision possibly draw extra, unwanted attention to a family during a mandatory vaccine push in the future?

>> i just went to our health department and picked up three notarized religious> exemption from vaccine forms for my kids...wonder how long they will hold> up... anyone tried this, have any comments? they cant make you prove its> your religion, so...

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Have you ever heard of PRE-VAC? It's a computer program that's part of a voice analysis system that takes a recording of your voice and analyzes the frequencies to determine your susceptibility and/or need for intervention in regard to viruses and pathogens. The human voice is a holographic representation of the human life form capable of being analyzed in extraordinary detail using computer programs.

The laryngeal nerve is connected to the vagus nerve that is part of the central nervous system. Since nerve impulses travel at the speed of light and all of the body's internal communications are interlaced in this way, it is possible to get an immediate snapshot of a persons condition using a voice recording and analysis system known as Bioacoustics, pioneered by Sharry . The process is fast and non-invasive and will offer you the freedom to discover for yourself more than you wanted to know without the wait for lab tests that can be misread or mixed up.

To find out more go to:

nutrasounds.com

lifespirit.org

soundhealthinc.com

From: Ingrid Blank <enb1@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:21:34 PMSubject: Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......

And I bet that those still alive to tell the tale belong to my generation.IngridMumps the word!As you know, I'm not exactly a fan of vaccinations. At best, they'reunnecessary. At worst, they're downright deadly. But the fact is that themedical community (read: BIG PHARMA) has done such a bang-up job ofconvincing everyone that they're an absolute necessity that in many cases,you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to be vaccinated.This gross violation of personal freedom was on full display recently whenthe University of Southern Maine sent out notices to 400 students that theywere being banned from campus for failing to meet the latest vaccinationrequirements for mumps. Yes, banned. This isn't anything new, youunderstand. In the not-so-politically correct past, lepers were cut-off fromsociety and left to literally rot in colonies on remote islands. But thesestudents don't have mumps--they just

haven't been vaccinated against mumps.Anyone else think this is a violation of personal rights?These notices went out after a recent mumps outbreak throughout the state ofMaine (officials believe this spread down out of Canada). Among the 400who've been banished from the halls of learning (you'd have to wonderexactly what they'd learn at a university that's so willing to employ thesekinds of extreme, Draconian tactics) are 20 students who have declined thevaccinations on religious or philosophical grounds. In other words, thosethat stood up for their rights.How seriously is the University of Southern Maine taking this "dangerous"mumps health threat? So seriously that students who are medically exemptfrom the vaccination are allowed on campus with "special passes." (Remindsme of the Nazis in old movies: "Show me your papers, please!") So now you'rethinking, "Hold on, s -- there's got

to be a very good reason forthis. Mumps must be a deadly virus, right?"Wrong.The mumps are painful. There's fever. There's a swelling of the salivaryglands around the jaw. It's not pleasant, and it's another of thosechildhood diseases like chicken pox which is much more painful to weather asan adult. But to be clear: it's not gonna kill you.. In fact, most commontreatment for the mumps is an ice bag and a couple of aspirin.In the rarest of rare cases, the results could be a mild form of meningitis,organ infections, Encephalitis (rarely fatal), and sterility in men. And Isuppose these "risks" could be considered serious if the University ofSouthern Maine happened to be located somewhere in the Congo where diseaseis rife, sanitation poor, and medical aid practically nonexistent. But thisis Maine -- and last I heard, that was one of the forty-eight contiguousStates. Hardly the wilds of

Africa.So where did the University get the wrong-headed idea that they needed totreat 400 of their student body like disease-ridden pariahs? From Maine'sstate government, of course (I love putting blame where it so often belongs:in the laps of unthinking, butt-covering bureaucrats) . The Maine Center forDisease Control and Prevention recommended that these actions be taken, andthey have amended the health codes on states college campuses to require twodoses of the vaccine. Most people receive their first and only mumpsvaccination not long after birth -- it's known as the MMR (the same one thathas been linked to the rise in the number of cases of autism inchildren...) .The campus ban has caused all kinds of issues, especially for theUniversity, since it's now their responsibility to work to find off-campushousing for the 400 affected students, and to make special arrangements toallow these

students to complete their coursework for the semester.Of course, I'm probably the lone voice in the wilderness decrying thisact -- yet another case of something stupid and dangerously wrong beingenacted in the name of "the common good." But as if to underscore my point,there have been a whopping eight laboratory-confirme d cases of mumps in theentire state of Maine, and just thirty-five suspected cases. So I know who'sbeing ridiculous here. It's not the students -- especially not the 20students who stood firm against the vaccination fascists. And it certainlyisn't me. Who's left? You do the math.A sweet solution for kids' coughsFortunately, not all research concludes that the best cure is always foundat the business end of a hypodermic needle. In a nice counter to thatenraging vaccination story, there's a new study out about a simple,non-medical, and darn tasty solution for children's

coughs: a teaspoon ofhoney. According to a study published in the Archives of Pediatrics andAdolescent Medicine, this homey folk remedy was better than cough medicinefor children. It calmed the cough, helped kids sleep better, and coated andsoothed the irritated throat.This report is like a breath of fresh air. There have been recent warningsabout the dangers of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines for childrenyounger than age six, and (shockingly) some Big Pharma companies evenremoved their baby cough-and-cold products from the market. Of course, manyparents already know that honey shouldn't be given to kids from birth untilafter age one (there's a rare but serious danger of botulism).I love it when grandma's old remedies are verified by research. Thisparticular study used 105 kids with upper respiratory infections, some weregiven honey, others a honey-flavored cough medicine. All the

kids got betterbut plain-old honey consistently scored higher than the drugs at combatingthe symptoms.Pretty sweet, huh?Helping to keep the needles at bay, s II, M.D.

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Have you ever heard of PRE-VAC? It's a computer program that's part of a voice analysis system that takes a recording of your voice and analyzes the frequencies to determine your susceptibility and/or need for intervention in regard to viruses and pathogens. The human voice is a holographic representation of the human life form capable of being analyzed in extraordinary detail using computer programs.

The laryngeal nerve is connected to the vagus nerve that is part of the central nervous system. Since nerve impulses travel at the speed of light and all of the body's internal communications are interlaced in this way, it is possible to get an immediate snapshot of a persons condition using a voice recording and analysis system known as Bioacoustics, pioneered by Sharry . The process is fast and non-invasive and will offer you the freedom to discover for yourself more than you wanted to know without the wait for lab tests that can be misread or mixed up.

To find out more go to:

nutrasounds.com

lifespirit.org

soundhealthinc.com

From: Ingrid Blank <enb1@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:21:34 PMSubject: Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......

And I bet that those still alive to tell the tale belong to my generation.IngridMumps the word!As you know, I'm not exactly a fan of vaccinations. At best, they'reunnecessary. At worst, they're downright deadly. But the fact is that themedical community (read: BIG PHARMA) has done such a bang-up job ofconvincing everyone that they're an absolute necessity that in many cases,you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to be vaccinated.This gross violation of personal freedom was on full display recently whenthe University of Southern Maine sent out notices to 400 students that theywere being banned from campus for failing to meet the latest vaccinationrequirements for mumps. Yes, banned. This isn't anything new, youunderstand. In the not-so-politically correct past, lepers were cut-off fromsociety and left to literally rot in colonies on remote islands. But thesestudents don't have mumps--they just

haven't been vaccinated against mumps.Anyone else think this is a violation of personal rights?These notices went out after a recent mumps outbreak throughout the state ofMaine (officials believe this spread down out of Canada). Among the 400who've been banished from the halls of learning (you'd have to wonderexactly what they'd learn at a university that's so willing to employ thesekinds of extreme, Draconian tactics) are 20 students who have declined thevaccinations on religious or philosophical grounds. In other words, thosethat stood up for their rights.How seriously is the University of Southern Maine taking this "dangerous"mumps health threat? So seriously that students who are medically exemptfrom the vaccination are allowed on campus with "special passes." (Remindsme of the Nazis in old movies: "Show me your papers, please!") So now you'rethinking, "Hold on, s -- there's got

to be a very good reason forthis. Mumps must be a deadly virus, right?"Wrong.The mumps are painful. There's fever. There's a swelling of the salivaryglands around the jaw. It's not pleasant, and it's another of thosechildhood diseases like chicken pox which is much more painful to weather asan adult. But to be clear: it's not gonna kill you.. In fact, most commontreatment for the mumps is an ice bag and a couple of aspirin.In the rarest of rare cases, the results could be a mild form of meningitis,organ infections, Encephalitis (rarely fatal), and sterility in men. And Isuppose these "risks" could be considered serious if the University ofSouthern Maine happened to be located somewhere in the Congo where diseaseis rife, sanitation poor, and medical aid practically nonexistent. But thisis Maine -- and last I heard, that was one of the forty-eight contiguousStates. Hardly the wilds of

Africa.So where did the University get the wrong-headed idea that they needed totreat 400 of their student body like disease-ridden pariahs? From Maine'sstate government, of course (I love putting blame where it so often belongs:in the laps of unthinking, butt-covering bureaucrats) . The Maine Center forDisease Control and Prevention recommended that these actions be taken, andthey have amended the health codes on states college campuses to require twodoses of the vaccine. Most people receive their first and only mumpsvaccination not long after birth -- it's known as the MMR (the same one thathas been linked to the rise in the number of cases of autism inchildren...) .The campus ban has caused all kinds of issues, especially for theUniversity, since it's now their responsibility to work to find off-campushousing for the 400 affected students, and to make special arrangements toallow these

students to complete their coursework for the semester.Of course, I'm probably the lone voice in the wilderness decrying thisact -- yet another case of something stupid and dangerously wrong beingenacted in the name of "the common good." But as if to underscore my point,there have been a whopping eight laboratory-confirme d cases of mumps in theentire state of Maine, and just thirty-five suspected cases. So I know who'sbeing ridiculous here. It's not the students -- especially not the 20students who stood firm against the vaccination fascists. And it certainlyisn't me. Who's left? You do the math.A sweet solution for kids' coughsFortunately, not all research concludes that the best cure is always foundat the business end of a hypodermic needle. In a nice counter to thatenraging vaccination story, there's a new study out about a simple,non-medical, and darn tasty solution for children's

coughs: a teaspoon ofhoney. According to a study published in the Archives of Pediatrics andAdolescent Medicine, this homey folk remedy was better than cough medicinefor children. It calmed the cough, helped kids sleep better, and coated andsoothed the irritated throat.This report is like a breath of fresh air. There have been recent warningsabout the dangers of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines for childrenyounger than age six, and (shockingly) some Big Pharma companies evenremoved their baby cough-and-cold products from the market. Of course, manyparents already know that honey shouldn't be given to kids from birth untilafter age one (there's a rare but serious danger of botulism).I love it when grandma's old remedies are verified by research. Thisparticular study used 105 kids with upper respiratory infections, some weregiven honey, others a honey-flavored cough medicine. All the

kids got betterbut plain-old honey consistently scored higher than the drugs at combatingthe symptoms.Pretty sweet, huh?Helping to keep the needles at bay, s II, M.D.

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I had the mumps when I was a kid... I think I was about 7. It was NO

big deal at all... I was a little swollen and was a little achy for a

couple of days, but honestly, it wasn't even enough to keep me down.

I was up and playing with my barbies the whole time! I remember

watching Wheel of Fortune, too. LOL I remember my dad calling me

" chipmunk " . I was completely over it and fine after just a few short

days. A few years later I went to the clinic to get a scheduled

vaccination... it was the mumps vax. I remember wondering why I had

to get the vax when I'd already had it... the only thing I can deduce

is that it was the MMR, but I'm not certain. The needle was dull and

it hurt really badly - my own mother, who was a nurse, gave me the

injection. I went into anaphylaxis while I was still in the clinic a

few minutes after the injection, and developed chronic asthma

thereafter.

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> I had the mumps at age 4 or 5.  It was NOTHING to worry about.  I bareley

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I had the mumps when I was a kid... I think I was about 7. It was NO

big deal at all... I was a little swollen and was a little achy for a

couple of days, but honestly, it wasn't even enough to keep me down.

I was up and playing with my barbies the whole time! I remember

watching Wheel of Fortune, too. LOL I remember my dad calling me

" chipmunk " . I was completely over it and fine after just a few short

days. A few years later I went to the clinic to get a scheduled

vaccination... it was the mumps vax. I remember wondering why I had

to get the vax when I'd already had it... the only thing I can deduce

is that it was the MMR, but I'm not certain. The needle was dull and

it hurt really badly - my own mother, who was a nurse, gave me the

injection. I went into anaphylaxis while I was still in the clinic a

few minutes after the injection, and developed chronic asthma

thereafter.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:56 PM, <krisrmjlap@...> wrote:

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>

> I had the mumps at age 4 or 5.  It was NOTHING to worry about.  I bareley

> remember any pain or anything.

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Hi All,

I want to get those exemption forms for my family. I checked online w/the CA Department of Health and couldn't find any information (I didn't think I would but it was worth a shot - no pun intended). Would someone please tell me how & where I need to go about this?

Thanks - Christy

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Greetings all,

Would this decision possibly draw extra, unwanted attention to a family during a mandatory vaccine push in the future?

>> i just went to our health department and picked up three notarized religious> exemption from vaccine forms for my kids...wonder how long they will hold> up... anyone tried this, have any comments? they cant make you prove its> your religion, so...

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Hi All,

I want to get those exemption forms for my family. I checked online w/the CA Department of Health and couldn't find any information (I didn't think I would but it was worth a shot - no pun intended). Would someone please tell me how & where I need to go about this?

Thanks - Christy

no-forced-vaccination From: carissanichols@...Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:37:33 +0000Subject: Re: Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......

Greetings all,

Would this decision possibly draw extra, unwanted attention to a family during a mandatory vaccine push in the future?

>> i just went to our health department and picked up three notarized religious> exemption from vaccine forms for my kids...wonder how long they will hold> up... anyone tried this, have any comments? they cant make you prove its> your religion, so...

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I'm quite firm in my own mind that such "tests" are hogwash. I do remember seeing something on the web circa 2004 that the feds had contracted with an Israeli company to perfect something they called VLT, voice layering technology, essentially the same as you write of, for determining who was a terrorist and who was not. Of course, the test must be performed by a trained "expert." That's a comforting thought, isn't it? Your voice is recorded over the phone and off you march to a FEMA camp as a convicted terrorist. From the quality and reliability of research (lack of) by gov / med at this point, coupled with known and extensive fraud, it sounds like more scientific bullshit to me. Maybe I'm wrong.

From: Leary <kevinleary34@...>Subject: Re: Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......no-forced-vaccination Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 12:44 AM

Have you ever heard of PRE-VAC? It's a computer program that's part of a voice analysis system that takes a recording of your voice and analyzes the frequencies to determine your susceptibility and/or need for intervention in regard to viruses and pathogens. The human voice is a holographic representation of the human life form capable of being analyzed in extraordinary detail using computer programs.

The laryngeal nerve is connected to the vagus nerve that is part of the central nervous system. Since nerve impulses travel at the speed of light and all of the body's internal communications are interlaced in this way, it is possible to get an immediate snapshot of a persons condition using a voice recording and analysis system known as Bioacoustics, pioneered by Sharry . The process is fast and non-invasive and will offer you the freedom to discover for yourself more than you wanted to know without the wait for lab tests that can be misread or mixed up.

To find out more go to:

nutrasounds. com

lifespirit.org

soundhealthinc. com

From: Ingrid Blank <enb1telkomsa (DOT) net>no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:21:34 PMSubject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......

And I bet that those still alive to tell the tale belong to my generation.IngridMumps the word!As you know, I'm not exactly a fan of vaccinations. At best, they'reunnecessary. At worst, they're downright deadly. But the fact is that themedical community (read: BIG PHARMA) has done such a bang-up job ofconvincing everyone that they're an absolute necessity that in many cases,you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to be vaccinated.This gross violation of personal freedom was on full display recently whenthe University of Southern Maine sent out notices to 400 students that theywere being banned from campus for failing to meet the latest vaccinationrequirements for mumps. Yes, banned. This isn't anything new, youunderstand. In the not-so-politically correct past, lepers were cut-off fromsociety and left to literally rot in colonies on remote islands. But thesestudents don't have mumps--they just

haven't been vaccinated against mumps.Anyone else think this is a violation of personal rights?These notices went out after a recent mumps outbreak throughout the state ofMaine (officials believe this spread down out of Canada). Among the 400who've been banished from the halls of learning (you'd have to wonderexactly what they'd learn at a university that's so willing to employ thesekinds of extreme, Draconian tactics) are 20 students who have declined thevaccinations on religious or philosophical grounds. In other words, thosethat stood up for their rights.How seriously is the University of Southern Maine taking this "dangerous"mumps health threat? So seriously that students who are medically exemptfrom the vaccination are allowed on campus with "special passes." (Remindsme of the Nazis in old movies: "Show me your papers, please!") So now you'rethinking, "Hold on, s -- there's got

to be a very good reason forthis. Mumps must be a deadly virus, right?"Wrong.The mumps are painful. There's fever. There's a swelling of the salivaryglands around the jaw. It's not pleasant, and it's another of thosechildhood diseases like chicken pox which is much more painful to weather asan adult. But to be clear: it's not gonna kill you.. In fact, most commontreatment for the mumps is an ice bag and a couple of aspirin.In the rarest of rare cases, the results could be a mild form of meningitis,organ infections, Encephalitis (rarely fatal), and sterility in men. And Isuppose these "risks" could be considered serious if the University ofSouthern Maine happened to be located somewhere in the Congo where diseaseis rife, sanitation poor, and medical aid practically nonexistent. But thisis Maine -- and last I heard, that was one of the forty-eight contiguousStates. Hardly the wilds of

Africa.So where did the University get the wrong-headed idea that they needed totreat 400 of their student body like disease-ridden pariahs? From Maine'sstate government, of course (I love putting blame where it so often belongs:in the laps of unthinking, butt-covering bureaucrats) . The Maine Center forDisease Control and Prevention recommended that these actions be taken, andthey have amended the health codes on states college campuses to require twodoses of the vaccine. Most people receive their first and only mumpsvaccination not long after birth -- it's known as the MMR (the same one thathas been linked to the rise in the number of cases of autism inchildren...) .The campus ban has caused all kinds of issues, especially for theUniversity, since it's now their responsibility to work to find off-campushousing for the 400 affected students, and to make special arrangements toallow these

students to complete their coursework for the semester.Of course, I'm probably the lone voice in the wilderness decrying thisact -- yet another case of something stupid and dangerously wrong beingenacted in the name of "the common good." But as if to underscore my point,there have been a whopping eight laboratory-confirme d cases of mumps in theentire state of Maine, and just thirty-five suspected cases. So I know who'sbeing ridiculous here. It's not the students -- especially not the 20students who stood firm against the vaccination fascists. And it certainlyisn't me. Who's left? You do the math.A sweet solution for kids' coughsFortunately, not all research concludes that the best cure is always foundat the business end of a hypodermic needle. In a nice counter to thatenraging vaccination story, there's a new study out about a simple,non-medical, and darn tasty solution for children's

coughs: a teaspoon ofhoney. According to a study published in the Archives of Pediatrics andAdolescent Medicine, this homey folk remedy was better than cough medicinefor children. It calmed the cough, helped kids sleep better, and coated andsoothed the irritated throat.This report is like a breath of fresh air. There have been recent warningsabout the dangers of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines for childrenyounger than age six, and (shockingly) some Big Pharma companies evenremoved their baby cough-and-cold products from the market. Of course, manyparents already know that honey shouldn't be given to kids from birth untilafter age one (there's a rare but serious danger of botulism).I love it when grandma's old remedies are verified by research. Thisparticular study used 105 kids with upper respiratory infections, some weregiven honey, others a honey-flavored cough medicine. All the

kids got betterbut plain-old honey consistently scored higher than the drugs at combatingthe symptoms.Pretty sweet, huh?Helping to keep the needles at bay, s II, M.D.

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I'm quite firm in my own mind that such "tests" are hogwash. I do remember seeing something on the web circa 2004 that the feds had contracted with an Israeli company to perfect something they called VLT, voice layering technology, essentially the same as you write of, for determining who was a terrorist and who was not. Of course, the test must be performed by a trained "expert." That's a comforting thought, isn't it? Your voice is recorded over the phone and off you march to a FEMA camp as a convicted terrorist. From the quality and reliability of research (lack of) by gov / med at this point, coupled with known and extensive fraud, it sounds like more scientific bullshit to me. Maybe I'm wrong.

From: Leary <kevinleary34@...>Subject: Re: Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......no-forced-vaccination Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 12:44 AM

Have you ever heard of PRE-VAC? It's a computer program that's part of a voice analysis system that takes a recording of your voice and analyzes the frequencies to determine your susceptibility and/or need for intervention in regard to viruses and pathogens. The human voice is a holographic representation of the human life form capable of being analyzed in extraordinary detail using computer programs.

The laryngeal nerve is connected to the vagus nerve that is part of the central nervous system. Since nerve impulses travel at the speed of light and all of the body's internal communications are interlaced in this way, it is possible to get an immediate snapshot of a persons condition using a voice recording and analysis system known as Bioacoustics, pioneered by Sharry . The process is fast and non-invasive and will offer you the freedom to discover for yourself more than you wanted to know without the wait for lab tests that can be misread or mixed up.

To find out more go to:

nutrasounds. com

lifespirit.org

soundhealthinc. com

From: Ingrid Blank <enb1telkomsa (DOT) net>no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:21:34 PMSubject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......

And I bet that those still alive to tell the tale belong to my generation.IngridMumps the word!As you know, I'm not exactly a fan of vaccinations. At best, they'reunnecessary. At worst, they're downright deadly. But the fact is that themedical community (read: BIG PHARMA) has done such a bang-up job ofconvincing everyone that they're an absolute necessity that in many cases,you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to be vaccinated.This gross violation of personal freedom was on full display recently whenthe University of Southern Maine sent out notices to 400 students that theywere being banned from campus for failing to meet the latest vaccinationrequirements for mumps. Yes, banned. This isn't anything new, youunderstand. In the not-so-politically correct past, lepers were cut-off fromsociety and left to literally rot in colonies on remote islands. But thesestudents don't have mumps--they just

haven't been vaccinated against mumps.Anyone else think this is a violation of personal rights?These notices went out after a recent mumps outbreak throughout the state ofMaine (officials believe this spread down out of Canada). Among the 400who've been banished from the halls of learning (you'd have to wonderexactly what they'd learn at a university that's so willing to employ thesekinds of extreme, Draconian tactics) are 20 students who have declined thevaccinations on religious or philosophical grounds. In other words, thosethat stood up for their rights.How seriously is the University of Southern Maine taking this "dangerous"mumps health threat? So seriously that students who are medically exemptfrom the vaccination are allowed on campus with "special passes." (Remindsme of the Nazis in old movies: "Show me your papers, please!") So now you'rethinking, "Hold on, s -- there's got

to be a very good reason forthis. Mumps must be a deadly virus, right?"Wrong.The mumps are painful. There's fever. There's a swelling of the salivaryglands around the jaw. It's not pleasant, and it's another of thosechildhood diseases like chicken pox which is much more painful to weather asan adult. But to be clear: it's not gonna kill you.. In fact, most commontreatment for the mumps is an ice bag and a couple of aspirin.In the rarest of rare cases, the results could be a mild form of meningitis,organ infections, Encephalitis (rarely fatal), and sterility in men. And Isuppose these "risks" could be considered serious if the University ofSouthern Maine happened to be located somewhere in the Congo where diseaseis rife, sanitation poor, and medical aid practically nonexistent. But thisis Maine -- and last I heard, that was one of the forty-eight contiguousStates. Hardly the wilds of

Africa.So where did the University get the wrong-headed idea that they needed totreat 400 of their student body like disease-ridden pariahs? From Maine'sstate government, of course (I love putting blame where it so often belongs:in the laps of unthinking, butt-covering bureaucrats) . The Maine Center forDisease Control and Prevention recommended that these actions be taken, andthey have amended the health codes on states college campuses to require twodoses of the vaccine. Most people receive their first and only mumpsvaccination not long after birth -- it's known as the MMR (the same one thathas been linked to the rise in the number of cases of autism inchildren...) .The campus ban has caused all kinds of issues, especially for theUniversity, since it's now their responsibility to work to find off-campushousing for the 400 affected students, and to make special arrangements toallow these

students to complete their coursework for the semester.Of course, I'm probably the lone voice in the wilderness decrying thisact -- yet another case of something stupid and dangerously wrong beingenacted in the name of "the common good." But as if to underscore my point,there have been a whopping eight laboratory-confirme d cases of mumps in theentire state of Maine, and just thirty-five suspected cases. So I know who'sbeing ridiculous here. It's not the students -- especially not the 20students who stood firm against the vaccination fascists. And it certainlyisn't me. Who's left? You do the math.A sweet solution for kids' coughsFortunately, not all research concludes that the best cure is always foundat the business end of a hypodermic needle. In a nice counter to thatenraging vaccination story, there's a new study out about a simple,non-medical, and darn tasty solution for children's

coughs: a teaspoon ofhoney. According to a study published in the Archives of Pediatrics andAdolescent Medicine, this homey folk remedy was better than cough medicinefor children. It calmed the cough, helped kids sleep better, and coated andsoothed the irritated throat.This report is like a breath of fresh air. There have been recent warningsabout the dangers of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines for childrenyounger than age six, and (shockingly) some Big Pharma companies evenremoved their baby cough-and-cold products from the market. Of course, manyparents already know that honey shouldn't be given to kids from birth untilafter age one (there's a rare but serious danger of botulism).I love it when grandma's old remedies are verified by research. Thisparticular study used 105 kids with upper respiratory infections, some weregiven honey, others a honey-flavored cough medicine. All the

kids got betterbut plain-old honey consistently scored higher than the drugs at combatingthe symptoms.Pretty sweet, huh?Helping to keep the needles at bay, s II, M.D.

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You are wrong. What I speak of is nothing at all like judgemental mind control or layering. "Tests" are not part of this system. Voice frequencies are a reflection of the condition of the inividual person that change from moment to moment as most people are aware of when speaking to someone familiar. You know right away if they are happy, sad, ill, depressed etc. Most people use music of their own preference to alter their moods. A good mood is a healthy mood. What's not so obvious is that the actual voice frequencies contain actual information. Most people trust blood and urine tests that reflect a later indication of a condition. Why not the voice frequencies as a reflection of the content of the nervous system?

It may be unfamiliar but if you take the time to educate yourself in proper techniques it can be quite liberating to know that you can be autonomous. Sure, expert analysis is needed... but anyone diligent can learn how. Just don't be surprised that learning a complex technique isn't free. I don't see too many skilled people giving everything away without some contribution in return.

From: Alan Foossolvesunified.com <cusanusnicolas@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:28:15 AMSubject: Re: Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......

I'm quite firm in my own mind that such "tests" are hogwash. I do remember seeing something on the web circa 2004 that the feds had contracted with an Israeli company to perfect something they called VLT, voice layering technology, essentially the same as you write of, for determining who was a terrorist and who was not. Of course, the test must be performed by a trained "expert." That's a comforting thought, isn't it? Your voice is recorded over the phone and off you march to a FEMA camp as a convicted terrorist. From the quality and reliability of research (lack of) by gov / med at this point, coupled with known and extensive fraud, it sounds like more scientific bullshit to me. Maybe I'm wrong.

From: Leary <kevinleary34>Subject: Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 12:44 AM

Have you ever heard of PRE-VAC? It's a computer program that's part of a voice analysis system that takes a recording of your voice and analyzes the frequencies to determine your susceptibility and/or need for intervention in regard to viruses and pathogens. The human voice is a holographic representation of the human life form capable of being analyzed in extraordinary detail using computer programs.

The laryngeal nerve is connected to the vagus nerve that is part of the central nervous system. Since nerve impulses travel at the speed of light and all of the body's internal communications are interlaced in this way, it is possible to get an immediate snapshot of a persons condition using a voice recording and analysis system known as Bioacoustics, pioneered by Sharry . The process is fast and non-invasive and will offer you the freedom to discover for yourself more than you wanted to know without the wait for lab tests that can be misread or mixed up.

To find out more go to:

nutrasounds. com

lifespirit.org

soundhealthinc. com

From: Ingrid Blank <enb1telkomsa (DOT) net>no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:21:34 PMSubject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Will the survivors of "deadly" mumps please raise their hands......

And I bet that those still alive to tell the tale belong to my generation.IngridMumps the word!As you know, I'm not exactly a fan of vaccinations. At best, they'reunnecessary. At worst, they're downright deadly. But the fact is that themedical community (read: BIG PHARMA) has done such a bang-up job ofconvincing everyone that they're an absolute necessity that in many cases,you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to be vaccinated.This gross violation of personal freedom was on full display recently whenthe University of Southern Maine sent out notices to 400 students that theywere being banned from campus for failing to meet the latest vaccinationrequirements for mumps. Yes, banned. This isn't anything new, youunderstand. In the not-so-politically correct past, lepers were cut-off fromsociety and left to literally rot in colonies on remote islands. But thesestudents don't have mumps--they just

haven't been vaccinated against mumps.Anyone else think this is a violation of personal rights?These notices went out after a recent mumps outbreak throughout the state ofMaine (officials believe this spread down out of Canada). Among the 400who've been banished from the halls of learning (you'd have to wonderexactly what they'd learn at a university that's so willing to employ thesekinds of extreme, Draconian tactics) are 20 students who have declined thevaccinations on religious or philosophical grounds. In other words, thosethat stood up for their rights.How seriously is the University of Southern Maine taking this "dangerous"mumps health threat? So seriously that students who are medically exemptfrom the vaccination are allowed on campus with "special passes." (Remindsme of the Nazis in old movies: "Show me your papers, please!") So now you'rethinking, "Hold on, s -- there's got

to be a very good reason forthis. Mumps must be a deadly virus, right?"Wrong.The mumps are painful. There's fever. There's a swelling of the salivaryglands around the jaw. It's not pleasant, and it's another of thosechildhood diseases like chicken pox which is much more painful to weather asan adult. But to be clear: it's not gonna kill you.. In fact, most commontreatment for the mumps is an ice bag and a couple of aspirin.In the rarest of rare cases, the results could be a mild form of meningitis,organ infections, Encephalitis (rarely fatal), and sterility in men. And Isuppose these "risks" could be considered serious if the University ofSouthern Maine happened to be located somewhere in the Congo where diseaseis rife, sanitation poor, and medical aid practically nonexistent. But thisis Maine -- and last I heard, that was one of the forty-eight contiguousStates. Hardly the wilds of

Africa.So where did the University get the wrong-headed idea that they needed totreat 400 of their student body like disease-ridden pariahs? From Maine'sstate government, of course (I love putting blame where it so often belongs:in the laps of unthinking, butt-covering bureaucrats) . The Maine Center forDisease Control and Prevention recommended that these actions be taken, andthey have amended the health codes on states college campuses to require twodoses of the vaccine. Most people receive their first and only mumpsvaccination not long after birth -- it's known as the MMR (the same one thathas been linked to the rise in the number of cases of autism inchildren...) .The campus ban has caused all kinds of issues, especially for theUniversity, since it's now their responsibility to work to find off-campushousing for the 400 affected students, and to make special arrangements toallow these

students to complete their coursework for the semester.Of course, I'm probably the lone voice in the wilderness decrying thisact -- yet another case of something stupid and dangerously wrong beingenacted in the name of "the common good." But as if to underscore my point,there have been a whopping eight laboratory-confirme d cases of mumps in theentire state of Maine, and just thirty-five suspected cases. So I know who'sbeing ridiculous here. It's not the students -- especially not the 20students who stood firm against the vaccination fascists. And it certainlyisn't me. Who's left? You do the math.A sweet solution for kids' coughsFortunately, not all research concludes that the best cure is always foundat the business end of a hypodermic needle. In a nice counter to thatenraging vaccination story, there's a new study out about a simple,non-medical, and darn tasty solution for children's

coughs: a teaspoon ofhoney. According to a study published in the Archives of Pediatrics andAdolescent Medicine, this homey folk remedy was better than cough medicinefor children. It calmed the cough, helped kids sleep better, and coated andsoothed the irritated throat.This report is like a breath of fresh air. There have been recent warningsabout the dangers of over-the-counter cough and cold medicines for childrenyounger than age six, and (shockingly) some Big Pharma companies evenremoved their baby cough-and-cold products from the market. Of course, manyparents already know that honey shouldn't be given to kids from birth untilafter age one (there's a rare but serious danger of botulism).I love it when grandma's old remedies are verified by research. Thisparticular study used 105 kids with upper respiratory infections, some weregiven honey, others a honey-flavored cough medicine. All the

kids got betterbut plain-old honey consistently scored higher than the drugs at combatingthe symptoms.Pretty sweet, huh?Helping to keep the needles at bay, s II, M.D.

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