Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 All cases of polio in the US for the last 25-30 years (or more) have been a direct result of the polio vaccine itself. Do not swim in public pools with your unvaccinated kid if you know folks are swimming around you, and they have had the vaccine. It is a live virus so your only danger is in coming into contact with recently vaccinated individuals' feces. The polio vaccine attacks the gut, is orally administered, and is evacuated through the bowel, so, for example, one of the most highly celebrated cases of polio in the last 20 years or so was an older father who'd never been vaccinated contracting polio from changing his vaccinated daughter's diapers. He came into direct contact with polio contaminated feces. Even at that, polio has followed a bell shape curve in its frequency and its virulence for the last 80 years, and it is likely that your child would experience flu-like symptoms, nothing more - not that I would recommend trying to get it. See: Nova Transcript #1510 Can you still get Polio? 1988. WGBH Educational Foundation Re DPT. Folks died from diphtheria and pertussis in the past, more because of poor living conditions and inadequate nutrition. I've known quite a few people to suffer with pertussis - from 6 mo onto about 50 years - entire families probably about 30 people who I know personally have recovered from pertussis. It's nasty - it lasts for months, and you have to take really good care of yourself - good sleep, vitamin c, and a good herbal bronchial formula (I recommend one with equal amounts of echinacea and osha and a very small amount of poke root tinchture). But it's an illness you can deal with - much better than the shot. Don't be afraid. Be proactive and confident. If you've submitted your information, the school has accepted it, why are you losing sleep over this? Move on and enjoy your kids! : ) t PS If they did " come after you, " then you have the paperwork to deal with it. What you have done is legal, and there's no reason " they " are going to waste their time when they've got truancy issues out the whazooo. Good luck, t On Sep 14, 2009, at 9:46 AM, wrote: > Well i sent the letter the school said they would honor it .. how > dangerous is the polio and Dpt ?? I am very concerned they will come > after me .. > > > > From: DeBonis Soccio <maryget2creative (DOT) com> > Subject: Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Question! > no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com > Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 5:19 PM > > > In all states (except MS and WV) you can use a religious exemption, > even if you have vaccinated in the past. Many parents become > educated about vaccine ingredients, side effects and risks and > choose to stop vaccinating and therefore use the religious exemption > so their children can attend public school. Below is a sample > letter used extensively and successfully in NJ. You can just > replace the state law with your own, if you live in a different > state. We have found it more effective to keep the letter brief and > to the point. I hope this helps! > > > NJ Coalition for Vaccination Choice > www.njvaccinationch oice.org > > > > > > (date) > > > > Subject: Affidavit of Religious Exemption > > NJ State Constitution: Article 1 paragraph 3 > No person shall be deprived of the inestimable privilege of > worshipping Almighty God in a manner agreeable to the dictates of > his own conscience; nor under any pretense whatever be compelled to > attend any place of > worship contrary to his faith and judgment.... > > > NJ Statute 26: 1A-9.1 > Exemption for pupils from mandatory immunization; interference with > religious rights; suspension. Provisions in the state sanitary code > in implementation of this act shall provide for exemption for pupils > from mandatory immunization if the > parent or guardian of the pupil objects thereto in a written > statement signed by > the parent or guardian upon the ground that the proposed > immunization interferes with the free exercise of the pupils’ > religious rights. Effective Nov.11, 1974. > > > To Whom It May Concern, > > > I, (parent’s name), the mother of (child’s name), object to the > vaccination of my child on the grounds that it conflicts with our > religious beliefs. It is our religious belief that the Lord our God > has the power to heal and has provided us with the ability to fight > disease. > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > (Parent Signature) > > > > > > [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Question! > > > Does anyone know if a parent decides to use relgious exemption , > does that have to been used before any vaccinations where > administered or can it be used at any time ? Also does anyone know > of a sample letter i can use .. The school said they will honor it > just want to make sure I know what i am talking about when > confronted thanks ! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 they are all dangerous. Sounds like you may need to start doing some research on them Start with my webpages http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm I also have online/email classes Sheri At 06:46 AM 9/14/2009, you wrote: > > >Well i sent the letter the school said they would honor it .. how >dangerous is the polio and Dpt ?? I am very concerned they will come >after me .. Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start September 9 & 10 http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 they are all dangerous. Sounds like you may need to start doing some research on them Start with my webpages http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm I also have online/email classes Sheri At 06:46 AM 9/14/2009, you wrote: > > >Well i sent the letter the school said they would honor it .. how >dangerous is the polio and Dpt ?? I am very concerned they will come >after me .. Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start September 9 & 10 http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 No offense, but that's risky advice. Laws vary from state to state, so what works in one state may not work in another. You have to look closely at your state's laws--statutes and regulations--to see how to exercise an exemption, doing anything else risks having it denied. Even rights under federal law (e.g., First Amendment " free exercise " of religion can vary in different parts of the country). Also, the quickest way to lose a religious exemption is to mention anything about adverse events, vaccine ingredients, etc. -- have seen this in my practice. Legally, religion is mutually exclusive from medical and philosophical concerns, so if you are required in your state to write a statement of religious beliefs, keep it purely religious, and don't refer to non-religious concerns--doing so has cost some their exemption or waiver (there's federal case law on that point). Finally, prior vaccines don't necessarily prevent exercise of a present exemption, but they definitely can--it depends on the circumstances and how you handle it. In addition to state requirements, there are federal boundaries set out by federal legal precedent, which applies differently depending on where you live (may be " binding " or " persuasive " accordingly). E.g., First Amendment protection under federal law requires a sincerely held belief that is religious. Having had vaccines in the past, especially the recent past, may evidence a lack of sincerity and thus cause one to lose the exemption. But strictly speaking, if you have the sincerely held belief now, you qualify. Point is, it's not necessarily straightforward, and must be approached with care. Details on the above are in the " Vaccine Legal Exemptions " e-book, at www.vaccinerights.com. Alan >>> In all states (except MS and WV) you can use a religious exemption, even if you have vaccinated in the past.  Many parents become educated about vaccine ingredients, side effects and risks and choose to stop vaccinating and therefore use the religious exemption so their children can attend public school.  Below is a sample letter used extensively and successfully in NJ. You can just replace the state law with your own, if you live in a different state. We have found it more effective to keep the letter brief and to the point. I hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 No offense, but that's risky advice. Laws vary from state to state, so what works in one state may not work in another. You have to look closely at your state's laws--statutes and regulations--to see how to exercise an exemption, doing anything else risks having it denied. Even rights under federal law (e.g., First Amendment " free exercise " of religion can vary in different parts of the country). Also, the quickest way to lose a religious exemption is to mention anything about adverse events, vaccine ingredients, etc. -- have seen this in my practice. Legally, religion is mutually exclusive from medical and philosophical concerns, so if you are required in your state to write a statement of religious beliefs, keep it purely religious, and don't refer to non-religious concerns--doing so has cost some their exemption or waiver (there's federal case law on that point). Finally, prior vaccines don't necessarily prevent exercise of a present exemption, but they definitely can--it depends on the circumstances and how you handle it. In addition to state requirements, there are federal boundaries set out by federal legal precedent, which applies differently depending on where you live (may be " binding " or " persuasive " accordingly). E.g., First Amendment protection under federal law requires a sincerely held belief that is religious. Having had vaccines in the past, especially the recent past, may evidence a lack of sincerity and thus cause one to lose the exemption. But strictly speaking, if you have the sincerely held belief now, you qualify. Point is, it's not necessarily straightforward, and must be approached with care. Details on the above are in the " Vaccine Legal Exemptions " e-book, at www.vaccinerights.com. Alan >>> In all states (except MS and WV) you can use a religious exemption, even if you have vaccinated in the past.  Many parents become educated about vaccine ingredients, side effects and risks and choose to stop vaccinating and therefore use the religious exemption so their children can attend public school.  Below is a sample letter used extensively and successfully in NJ. You can just replace the state law with your own, if you live in a different state. We have found it more effective to keep the letter brief and to the point. I hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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