Re: WIC Program and Vaccinations

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure about tracking, but it doesn't disqualify you from the

program if you choose not to vaccinate.

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> How do these tie in together in the state of California? Do they keep

> track or force vaccinations on children within this program? Any info

> will be greatly appreciated!

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> Rina

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Dawn, but I could care less if it disqualifies me, just real

concerned about the forcing and tracking. Kind of makes us stand out

now and just want to be left alone with the non-vaxxing issue.

Rina

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> > How do these tie in together in the state of California? Do they

keep

> > track or force vaccinations on children within this program? Any

info

> > will be greatly appreciated!

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> > Rina

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[Guest guest]

I'm not sure how it works in California but in Massachussetts I just told them

that my daughter was completely unvaccinated and they were fine with that.

Actually the person in our wic office said her daughter was completely

unvaccinated as well.

WIC program and vaccinations

How do these tie in together in the state of California? Do they keep

track or force vaccinations on children within this program? Any info

will be greatly appreciated!

Rina

[Guest guest]

google on this

+wic+california+tracking+vaccine

and see what you find

and this for California vaccine tracking

+california+tracking+vaccine

and

http://dvk.cust.he.net/imms/immtrack.htm

the URL there for California doesn't work

but found this here by googling

http://www.aapca2.org/PediatricNews/q3-99/news__commentary.htm

" In order to facilitate the development of SIIS, two bills were

passed in the state legislature over the past several years, AB254

and SB 2222. The first, AB254, permits the exchange of immunization

information with individual providers. It also governs the

confidentiality of immunization information recognizing that a

requirement for explicit permission for each data exchange would

severely hamper an immunization registry. At the same time AB254

acknowledges that some parents do not want any information exchanged

without their explicit permission. The bill requires that parents be

informed of the possibility that immunizations will be exchanged with

others involved in the care of their child, and be given the

opportunity to say no to all such requests for information. If prior

denial has not been made, immunization information may be exchanged,

for the purpose of the child's medical care, without further consent.

The second bill, SB2222, extends the right to exchange information

with authorized schools, child care facilities, WIC agencies, health

care facilities and health care plans. These agencies must agree to

maintain confidentiality and to use the information only for limited,

specified purposes. "

" California is not alone in this endeavor. Nearly every state has an

active program for the development of immunization registries. At a

national level, the CDC is actively developing guidelines and support

for the state efforts, with some discussion of a national

immunization registry in the future "

Sheri

listowner

At 07:26 AM 8/6/2008, you wrote:

>Thanks Dawn, but I could care less if it disqualifies me, just real

>concerned about the forcing and tracking. Kind of makes us stand out

>now and just want to be left alone with the non-vaxxing issue.

>

>Rina

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Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or

http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes Sept 08

http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or

http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm

[Guest guest]

Just like anywhere else (school,peds etc.) They aren't going to

force you but advise you to get it done. My sister is on WIC in Utah

and hasn't had any problems with her non vax status. She was

actually pleasantly surprised when the last time she went in the lady

in front of her was no vax as well! They aren't " trackin " per say to

come after you it will just be noted in your file. My best advice in

these situations is to just remember you know more about the issue

then the people working there, and if you are confindent in your

knowledge they will leave you alone. Good luck

Marci

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> > > How do these tie in together in the state of California? Do

they

> keep

> > > track or force vaccinations on children within this program?

Any

> info

> > > will be greatly appreciated!

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> > > Rina

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[Guest guest]

I don't remember them asking for shot records when I was living in CA.

From my recollection, they were more interested in boosting the number

of breastfeeding moms. What I did here in KY was just give them a

notorized statement that I was refusing them based on my religious

beliefs. No issues, no questions!

-Kristi

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> How do these tie in together in the state of California? Do they keep

> track or force vaccinations on children within this program? Any info

> will be greatly appreciated!

>

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> Rina

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[Guest guest]

Thank you much!

Rina

> >Thanks Dawn, but I could care less if it disqualifies me, just real

> >concerned about the forcing and tracking. Kind of makes us stand

out

> >now and just want to be left alone with the non-vaxxing issue.

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> >Rina

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> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or

> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

> Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes

Sept 08

> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or

> http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you much!

Rina

> >Thanks Dawn, but I could care less if it disqualifies me, just real

> >concerned about the forcing and tracking. Kind of makes us stand

out

> >now and just want to be left alone with the non-vaxxing issue.

> >

> >Rina

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> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or

> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

> Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes

Sept 08

> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or

> http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm

>

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU MARCI for those wonderful words of encouragement! They

didn't ask for her vaxx status when I applied and got approved, but I

don't need them hounding me down the line.....not to mention this WIC

program offers CRAP foods and quite honestly doesn't even seem worth

it! Thank you again Marci.

Rina

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> > > > How do these tie in together in the state of California? Do

> they

> > keep

> > > > track or force vaccinations on children within this program?

> Any

> > info

> > > > will be greatly appreciated!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rina

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[Guest guest]

THANK YOU MARCI for those wonderful words of encouragement! They

didn't ask for her vaxx status when I applied and got approved, but I

don't need them hounding me down the line.....not to mention this WIC

program offers CRAP foods and quite honestly doesn't even seem worth

it! Thank you again Marci.

Rina

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> > > > How do these tie in together in the state of California? Do

> they

> > keep

> > > > track or force vaccinations on children within this program?

> Any

> > info

> > > > will be greatly appreciated!

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> > > >

> > > > Rina

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[Guest guest]

Hi Rina! Where are you located? I noticed even with my foster babies,

different locations are either more or less pushy. There is a church

in Santee that does WIC once a month & they NEVER even asked me the

question. I don't know about keeping track & such, but I've never had

any problems in the past. Hope this helps. Good luck!

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> How do these tie in together in the state of California? Do they keep

> track or force vaccinations on children within this program? Any info

> will be greatly appreciated!

>

>

> Rina

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for the response, I am in CA. They didn't question anything

about her vaxx status while I was in the office applying, I'm just

hoping nothing becomes an issue later on down the line. If so, I am

more than willing to drop WIC if it means hassling me. I'll just see

how it goes......thank you again!

Rina

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> > How do these tie in together in the state of California? Do they

keep

> > track or force vaccinations on children within this program? Any

info

> > will be greatly appreciated!

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> > Rina

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[Guest guest]

We had a recert last week. I just reminded the lady that my kids have a medical exemption, and then gave her a short summary of why vaccines are dangerous for kids with mito issues (I didn't go farther; needed to take baby steps here). Was not an issue at all, and we did our recert without any problems whatsoever.

From: anniemokels <anniemokels@...>Subject: WIC Program and Vaccinationsno-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 3:51 PM

It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women, Infants, and Children, a government sponsored food program) is now asking for vaccination records on recertification visits. WIC offices do not offer vaccinations and to my knowledge this is a new practice. Does anybody have more indepth information on this--such as if benefits will be terminated if one is not vaccinated.. . or who has access to these records.Thank you.Anne

[Guest guest]

We had a recert last week. I just reminded the lady that my kids have a medical exemption, and then gave her a short summary of why vaccines are dangerous for kids with mito issues (I didn't go farther; needed to take baby steps here). Was not an issue at all, and we did our recert without any problems whatsoever.

From: anniemokels <anniemokels@...>Subject: WIC Program and Vaccinationsno-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 3:51 PM

It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women, Infants, and Children, a government sponsored food program) is now asking for vaccination records on recertification visits. WIC offices do not offer vaccinations and to my knowledge this is a new practice. Does anybody have more indepth information on this--such as if benefits will be terminated if one is not vaccinated.. . or who has access to these records.Thank you.Anne

[Guest guest]

If that is being implemented is it NOT a violation of the HIPPA Law?

Shot records are Medical records Right?

anniemokels wrote:

It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women,

Infants, and Children, a government sponsored food program) is now

asking for vaccination records on recertification visits. WIC offices

do not offer vaccinations and to my knowledge this is a new practice.

Does anybody have more indepth information on this--such as if benefits

will be terminated if one is not vaccinated... or who has access

to these records.

Thank you.

Anne

[Guest guest]

If that is being implemented is it NOT a violation of the HIPPA Law?

Shot records are Medical records Right?

anniemokels wrote:

It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women,

Infants, and Children, a government sponsored food program) is now

asking for vaccination records on recertification visits. WIC offices

do not offer vaccinations and to my knowledge this is a new practice.

Does anybody have more indepth information on this--such as if benefits

will be terminated if one is not vaccinated... or who has access

to these records.

Thank you.

Anne

[Guest guest]

It is my understanding that according to federal guidelines (no matter what the

individual offices tell you), they CANNOT stop your benefits due to your

vaccination status. They can ask to see the record and give you a hard time

about it, but they legally cannot make you get vaccinations OR take your

benefits away. I don't know who has access to the records, though. I'd assume

your case worker and any medical staff? But I don't receive WIC so I'm not

sure.

--Kate

Mommy to Rebekah, 1-26-08

, 7-16-09

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> It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women, Infants, and

Children, a government sponsored food program) is now asking for vaccination

records on recertification visits. WIC offices do not offer vaccinations and to

my knowledge this is a new practice. Does anybody have more indepth information

on this--such as if benefits will be terminated if one is not vaccinated... or

who has access to these records.

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> Thank you.

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> Anne

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[Guest guest]

It is my understanding that according to federal guidelines (no matter what the

individual offices tell you), they CANNOT stop your benefits due to your

vaccination status. They can ask to see the record and give you a hard time

about it, but they legally cannot make you get vaccinations OR take your

benefits away. I don't know who has access to the records, though. I'd assume

your case worker and any medical staff? But I don't receive WIC so I'm not

sure.

--Kate

Mommy to Rebekah, 1-26-08

, 7-16-09

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> It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women, Infants, and

Children, a government sponsored food program) is now asking for vaccination

records on recertification visits. WIC offices do not offer vaccinations and to

my knowledge this is a new practice. Does anybody have more indepth information

on this--such as if benefits will be terminated if one is not vaccinated... or

who has access to these records.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Anne

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[Guest guest]

When we used to be on WIC, I just told them we were delaying vaccinations due to reactions in other family members. They never terminated benefits because the kids were not vaccinated. This was about a year or so ago.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Gayle Bradford <laura.bradford@...> wrote:

 

If that is being implemented is it NOT a violation of the HIPPA Law? 

Shot records are Medical records Right?

anniemokels wrote:

 

It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women,

Infants, and Children, a government sponsored food program) is now

asking for vaccination records on recertification visits. WIC offices

do not offer vaccinations and to my knowledge this is a new practice.

Does anybody have more indepth information on this--such as if benefits

will be terminated if one is not vaccinated... or who has access

to these records.

Thank you.

Anne

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-- Blessings,Tonihttp://organic-birth.com

[Guest guest]

When we used to be on WIC, I just told them we were delaying vaccinations due to reactions in other family members. They never terminated benefits because the kids were not vaccinated. This was about a year or so ago.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Gayle Bradford <laura.bradford@...> wrote:

 

If that is being implemented is it NOT a violation of the HIPPA Law? 

Shot records are Medical records Right?

anniemokels wrote:

 

It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women,

Infants, and Children, a government sponsored food program) is now

asking for vaccination records on recertification visits. WIC offices

do not offer vaccinations and to my knowledge this is a new practice.

Does anybody have more indepth information on this--such as if benefits

will be terminated if one is not vaccinated... or who has access

to these records.

Thank you.

Anne

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-- Blessings,Tonihttp://organic-birth.com

[Guest guest]

I have WIC for my daughter who is 2 and I also have a waiver from Texas. I was told at one point that I HAD to have her vaccinated or could not get WIC. I refused and showed them my waiver and she was not happy. She asked if she could check her iron. a finger prick. I allowed that watching VERY closley and left the office with my WIC. They dont seem to be informed too much on our rights

It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women, Infants, and Children, a government sponsored food program) is now asking for vaccination records on recertification visits. WIC offices do not offer vaccinations and to my knowledge this is a new practice. Does anybody have more indepth information on this--such as if benefits will be terminated if one is not vaccinated.. . or who has access to these records.Thank you.Anne

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-- Blessings,Tonihttp://organic- birth.com

[Guest guest]

I have WIC for my daughter who is 2 and I also have a waiver from Texas. I was told at one point that I HAD to have her vaccinated or could not get WIC. I refused and showed them my waiver and she was not happy. She asked if she could check her iron. a finger prick. I allowed that watching VERY closley and left the office with my WIC. They dont seem to be informed too much on our rights

It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women, Infants, and Children, a government sponsored food program) is now asking for vaccination records on recertification visits. WIC offices do not offer vaccinations and to my knowledge this is a new practice. Does anybody have more indepth information on this--such as if benefits will be terminated if one is not vaccinated.. . or who has access to these records.Thank you.Anne

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-- Blessings,Tonihttp://organic- birth.com

[Guest guest]

Anne,

I use to participate in WIC and everytime I went they would ask for the shot record. My daughter never had her HepA. And the health dept. did call me and remind me. I still had my benefits though but they may have changed that. I don't know.

Kim

Hamilton

kimhamilton1536@...

"The only thing for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

Edmund Burke 1729-1797

From: anniemokels <anniemokels@...>Subject: WIC Program and Vaccinationsno-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:51 PM

It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women, Infants, and Children, a government sponsored food program) is now asking for vaccination records on recertification visits. WIC offices do not offer vaccinations and to my knowledge this is a new practice. Does anybody have more indepth information on this--such as if benefits will be terminated if one is not vaccinated.. . or who has access to these records.Thank you.Anne

[Guest guest]

Anne,

I use to participate in WIC and everytime I went they would ask for the shot record. My daughter never had her HepA. And the health dept. did call me and remind me. I still had my benefits though but they may have changed that. I don't know.

Kim

Hamilton

kimhamilton1536@...

"The only thing for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

Edmund Burke 1729-1797

From: anniemokels <anniemokels@...>Subject: WIC Program and Vaccinationsno-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:51 PM

It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women, Infants, and Children, a government sponsored food program) is now asking for vaccination records on recertification visits. WIC offices do not offer vaccinations and to my knowledge this is a new practice. Does anybody have more indepth information on this--such as if benefits will be terminated if one is not vaccinated.. . or who has access to these records.Thank you.Anne

[Guest guest]

Wic usually issues vaccines to children, for free and gives you some

food, not much and also checks for Iron levels in children. It was

started to make sure that small children, below school age got a

proper diet, especially iron, because there are supposedly lots of low

income children who are low on iron, they also give free vaccinations

and usually tell people it is a requirement.

Hope this helps.

Go in Peace,

Judy

On 8/6/09, a Vera <krismas1999@...> wrote:

> I have WIC for my daughter who is 2 and I also  have a waiver from Texas. I

> was told at one point that I HAD to have her vaccinated or could not get

> WIC. I refused and showed them my waiver and she was not happy. She asked if

> she could check her iron. a finger prick. I allowed that watching VERY

> closley and left the office with my WIC. They dont seem to be informed too

> much on our rights

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> It has been drawn to my attention that the WIC program (Women, Infants, and

> Children, a government sponsored food program) is now asking for vaccination

> records on recertification visits. WIC offices do not offer vaccinations and

> to my knowledge this is a new practice. Does anybody have more indepth

> information on this--such as if benefits will be terminated if one is not

> vaccinated.. . or who has access to these records.

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> Thank you.

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> Anne

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