Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 It is not my desire to drive anyone away from this support group, and this includes e. I value each and every member of this support group as they go through this ordeal, as I know the devastation and tragedy that result from it. That is all the more reason that we need to be gentle with one another. However, I think it is reasonable for me to request that any information that is posted and claimed as "fact" needs to have a source or reference. Especially when it runs contrary to previously posted information. Requesting references is not a personal attack. I do not wish to belabor this problem and apologize to any group member who may have been offended by what was said. I do not believe that any statement I made was factually incorrect, and I urge anyone who has questions to check out the links and references provided. The magnesium issue, as well as the B12 issue, arose because of the large amounts of previously posted infomation regarding our diseases that indicates that these two nutrients are almost ALWAYS a deficiency for us. My concern was that to warn women away from these supplements will possibly prevent their opportunity to feel better. It has never, ever, in all my research and study regarding our illnesses, as well as communications with doctors and alternative medicine practitioners, been suggested that magnesium supplements be avoided. To the contrary, I have seen nothing but recommendations for supplementation. The number of references I could give for magnesium supplementation would be overwhelming. As Dr. Kolb stated, 97% of those with fibromyalgia (which the May 2001 study showed to be associated with silicone implants) are deficient in this mineral. Having said that, I will now lay this issue to rest and wish all of you the best in health, and peace upon us. God bless to all. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2001 Report Share Posted September 3, 2001 Caren, By all info you have provided me, your lab results are normal. However, I know that just because your numbers are normal means that you don't have a subclinical thyroid problem going on. I had my thyroid tested a few yrs ago, and it was on the low side of normal, but my doc chose to put me on thyiodoxrine (or something like that, but it wasn't Synthroid). My energy came back, and my weight was back to normal. From what I can glean from my medical books, your symptoms are similar to hypothyroidism. As you already know, hypothyroidism causes metablolic processes to slow down. You will usually be deficient or low in T3 or T4. Hypothyroidism is a result of insufficient synthesis of thyroid hormones, one of the causes being inflammatory conditions. You can also have an inability to synthesize thyroid hormones because of iodine insufficiency (usually dietary). Are you taking any thyroid pills now? Because they can cause suppression of erythropoietin, which may result in bleeding tendencies (including heavy, and/or frequent periods) and iron deficiency anemia. Also, according to my medical book, " Diseases " published by Springhill Corp., 1998, hypothyroidism can cause menorrhagia (profuse bleeding during periods). No one doc can say that you don't have hypothyroidism without doing differential tests/studies. Minimally, according to " Diseases, " you should have a radioimmunoassay with radioactive iodine (131I) done. If this shows low serum levels of thyroid hormones, then further tests should be done for a differential diagnosis. Serum TSH levels determine the primary or secondary nature of the disorder. An increased serum TSH level with hypothyroidism is due to thyroid insufficiency; a decreased TSH level is due to hypothalamic or pituitary insufficiency. Serum antithyroid antibodies are elevated in autoimmune thyroiditis. Of course you know that to treat this, you will require thyroid hormone replacement with either T3 or T4. From my discussions with docs, I understand that just because you are within normal limits on your labs doesn't mean that you don't have some mild hypothyroidism. I would pursue further testing and see what happens. I don't know if any of this helped, but hopefully it shed some light on the subject. ****All info obtained from " Diseases " , Second Edition, published by Springhouse Corp., 1998; Endocrine Disorders, Chapter 13.**** e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2001 Report Share Posted September 3, 2001 Thank you so much for your help. I go to the doctor Tuesday. I hope he will help me. Caren ----- Original Message ----- From: <eRene@...> < > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:55 PM Subject: Re: e > Caren, > > By all info you have provided me, your lab results are > normal. However, I know that just because your numbers > are normal means that you don't have a subclinical > thyroid problem going on. I had my thyroid tested a few > yrs ago, and it was on the low side of normal, but my > doc chose to put me on thyiodoxrine (or something like > that, but it wasn't Synthroid). My energy came back, > and my weight was back to normal. > > From what I can glean from my medical books, your > symptoms are similar to hypothyroidism. As you already > know, hypothyroidism causes metablolic processes to slow > down. You will usually be deficient or low in T3 or > T4. Hypothyroidism is a result of insufficient > synthesis of thyroid hormones, one of the causes being > inflammatory conditions. You can also have an inability > to synthesize thyroid hormones because of iodine > insufficiency (usually dietary). > > Are you taking any thyroid pills now? Because they can > cause suppression of erythropoietin, which may result in > bleeding tendencies (including heavy, and/or frequent > periods) and iron deficiency anemia. Also, according to > my medical book, " Diseases " published by Springhill > Corp., 1998, hypothyroidism can cause menorrhagia > (profuse bleeding during periods). > > No one doc can say that you don't have hypothyroidism > without doing differential tests/studies. Minimally, > according to " Diseases, " you should have a > radioimmunoassay with radioactive iodine (131I) done. > If this shows low serum levels of thyroid hormones, then > further tests should be done for a differential > diagnosis. > > Serum TSH levels determine the primary or secondary > nature of the disorder. An increased serum TSH level > with hypothyroidism is due to thyroid insufficiency; a > decreased TSH level is due to hypothalamic or pituitary > insufficiency. Serum antithyroid antibodies are > elevated in autoimmune thyroiditis. > > Of course you know that to treat this, you will require > thyroid hormone replacement with either T3 or T4. From > my discussions with docs, I understand that just because > you are within normal limits on your labs doesn't mean > that you don't have some mild hypothyroidism. I would > pursue further testing and see what happens. > > I don't know if any of this helped, but hopefully it > shed some light on the subject. > > ****All info obtained from " Diseases " , Second Edition, > published by Springhouse Corp., 1998; Endocrine > Disorders, Chapter 13.**** > > e > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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