Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Dr. Breggin states, in " Talking Back to Prozac, " that a search of the medical literature indicated anxiety was more likely to cause suicide than depression. Re: SSRI and Suicide This argument would make sense if these drugs were only prescribed for depression. What about the 12 year old who killed herself on zoloft which was prescribed for warts? Yes, warts! What about the mother who was prescribed effexor for abdominal pain and shot herself (gallstones on autopsy). What about all those who are prescribed this drug for anxiety(0 on the famous depression scale) who have killed themselves. What about Prozac for anorexia in a 15 year old who dies from an overdose of Atarax that we prescribed for the insomnia caused by the Prozac. I'm not busting your chops here, but the " excuse " that those that you spoke to doesn't fly when you look at the reasons why these drugs are ordered. Cymbalta had a suicide IN THEIR LAB by one of their " well " participants.( ). I could list hundreds more who have committed suicide when no depression was present. My son attempted suicide on paxil. He survived and can tell me today exactly what was in his mind. I can assure you it wasn't " I have the energy to kill myself now " . It was an out of control psychotic obsession with death. A " knowing " that he would not live to see 17 years old. I appreciate you're coming here to hear the real story from real survivors. Maybe, just maybe you can make others in your profession start to see exactly what these drugs are capable of. Okay, this is what I was told by other therapists at our facility. > Please don't shoot the messanger....that's me! I'm only relaying what I was told. > Some of you may have already heard this, but I was told that many > individuals who are in deep depression are already suicidal but they don't have the > strength to cary out the act. So, when they are put on medication, their mood is > slowly elevated. There is a point during this process when they have not yet > reached peak elevation from the medication, but are somewhere in mid > range....giving them more energy, but yet they are still suicidal. This is the time > frame that some people carry out suicidal acts and need to be under close > observation. In other words, it is thought that the drug is not causing the > suicidal act, because these individuals have been suicidal, so the drug is only > increasing their mood elevation to the degree that they now have enough strangth to > cary out the act. Any thoughts? I'm open to opposing view points. > > Gab > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Dr. Breggin states, in " Talking Back to Prozac, " that a search of the medical literature indicated anxiety was more likely to cause suicide than depression. Re: SSRI and Suicide This argument would make sense if these drugs were only prescribed for depression. What about the 12 year old who killed herself on zoloft which was prescribed for warts? Yes, warts! What about the mother who was prescribed effexor for abdominal pain and shot herself (gallstones on autopsy). What about all those who are prescribed this drug for anxiety(0 on the famous depression scale) who have killed themselves. What about Prozac for anorexia in a 15 year old who dies from an overdose of Atarax that we prescribed for the insomnia caused by the Prozac. I'm not busting your chops here, but the " excuse " that those that you spoke to doesn't fly when you look at the reasons why these drugs are ordered. Cymbalta had a suicide IN THEIR LAB by one of their " well " participants.( ). I could list hundreds more who have committed suicide when no depression was present. My son attempted suicide on paxil. He survived and can tell me today exactly what was in his mind. I can assure you it wasn't " I have the energy to kill myself now " . It was an out of control psychotic obsession with death. A " knowing " that he would not live to see 17 years old. I appreciate you're coming here to hear the real story from real survivors. Maybe, just maybe you can make others in your profession start to see exactly what these drugs are capable of. Okay, this is what I was told by other therapists at our facility. > Please don't shoot the messanger....that's me! I'm only relaying what I was told. > Some of you may have already heard this, but I was told that many > individuals who are in deep depression are already suicidal but they don't have the > strength to cary out the act. So, when they are put on medication, their mood is > slowly elevated. There is a point during this process when they have not yet > reached peak elevation from the medication, but are somewhere in mid > range....giving them more energy, but yet they are still suicidal. This is the time > frame that some people carry out suicidal acts and need to be under close > observation. In other words, it is thought that the drug is not causing the > suicidal act, because these individuals have been suicidal, so the drug is only > increasing their mood elevation to the degree that they now have enough strangth to > cary out the act. Any thoughts? I'm open to opposing view points. > > Gab > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 This is a great point, ... people who come in with very mild depression, e.g., a case of the typical teenage blues because a girl- or boy friend broke up with them or are having trouble/stress at school can end up committing suicide when put on these drugs. The ABC Prime Time documentary which was shown last September has some excellent info on this and can be found in our group archives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 This is a great point, ... people who come in with very mild depression, e.g., a case of the typical teenage blues because a girl- or boy friend broke up with them or are having trouble/stress at school can end up committing suicide when put on these drugs. The ABC Prime Time documentary which was shown last September has some excellent info on this and can be found in our group archives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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