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We live in IL and my Son is getting ready to start Kindergarten in the Fall. Can you help me with getting my forms? Thank you, Bridgette From: Sheri Nakken <vaccinedangers@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 8:48:58 PMSubject: Re: Booster

Shots you have to use specific forms for your state, not just any form on vaclib What state do you live in? And most states don't require the forms be notarized This is very important that you do what the law says for your specific state Sheri At 10:18 AM 1/11/2010, you wrote: THIS PAST THURS JAN 6TH 2010 I WENT TO VACCLIB.ORG (ALL KINDS OF FORMS) DR.MERCOLA .COM HAS THEM TOO DOWNLOADED DECLARATION OF VACCINATION EXEMPTION WENT TO THE NOTARY AND FOR TEN BUCKS A PIECE MY DAUGHTER AND SON (4 IN APR ) THE NEXT MMR DUE I DONT THINK SO ARE TAKEN CARE OF I WILL NEVER

VACCINATE AGAIN THANKS IRENE From: Bascombe <cbascombetrack@ hotmail.com> no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 8:40:12 AM Subject: RE: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Booster Shots I would give them the exempt form now and not wait until they approach you with the updated vaccine info. Make sure you keep a copy for yourself as well, as many of these schools like to say that they never recieved a copy from parents who wish to have their child exempted. no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com From: m_young26 (DOT) com Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:19:34 +0000 Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Booster Shots Hi, everyone. I'm sure a lot of you have gone through this situation, so

I'm really needing some advice. My son will be 4 at the end of this month and will be due for booster shots I believe, and his daycare will probably ask to get vaccines updated. Unfortunately, I didn't become educated on vaccines until he had already gotten all on the schedule through 15 mos. old, but thanks to the plethora of info on the internet I was able to get educated and I plan to NEVER vaccinate my son again. So my question is, do I beat the daycare to the punch and give them a letter citing my state law for religious exemption or do I first wait for them to bring up the updates? I think they're a very busy daycare and may forget to mention the updates on vaccines anyway, but I would feel better knowing what some of you recommend. Thanks in advance!

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We live in IL and my Son is getting ready to start Kindergarten in the Fall. Can you help me with getting my forms? Thank you, Bridgette From: Sheri Nakken <vaccinedangers@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 8:48:58 PMSubject: Re: Booster

Shots you have to use specific forms for your state, not just any form on vaclib What state do you live in? And most states don't require the forms be notarized This is very important that you do what the law says for your specific state Sheri At 10:18 AM 1/11/2010, you wrote: THIS PAST THURS JAN 6TH 2010 I WENT TO VACCLIB.ORG (ALL KINDS OF FORMS) DR.MERCOLA .COM HAS THEM TOO DOWNLOADED DECLARATION OF VACCINATION EXEMPTION WENT TO THE NOTARY AND FOR TEN BUCKS A PIECE MY DAUGHTER AND SON (4 IN APR ) THE NEXT MMR DUE I DONT THINK SO ARE TAKEN CARE OF I WILL NEVER

VACCINATE AGAIN THANKS IRENE From: Bascombe <cbascombetrack@ hotmail.com> no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 8:40:12 AM Subject: RE: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Booster Shots I would give them the exempt form now and not wait until they approach you with the updated vaccine info. Make sure you keep a copy for yourself as well, as many of these schools like to say that they never recieved a copy from parents who wish to have their child exempted. no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com From: m_young26 (DOT) com Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:19:34 +0000 Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Booster Shots Hi, everyone. I'm sure a lot of you have gone through this situation, so

I'm really needing some advice. My son will be 4 at the end of this month and will be due for booster shots I believe, and his daycare will probably ask to get vaccines updated. Unfortunately, I didn't become educated on vaccines until he had already gotten all on the schedule through 15 mos. old, but thanks to the plethora of info on the internet I was able to get educated and I plan to NEVER vaccinate my son again. So my question is, do I beat the daycare to the punch and give them a letter citing my state law for religious exemption or do I first wait for them to bring up the updates? I think they're a very busy daycare and may forget to mention the updates on vaccines anyway, but I would feel better knowing what some of you recommend. Thanks in advance!

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We live in IL and my Son is getting ready to start Kindergarten in the Fall. Can you help me with getting my forms? Thank you, Bridgette From: Sheri Nakken <vaccinedangers@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 8:48:58 PMSubject: Re: Booster

Shots you have to use specific forms for your state, not just any form on vaclib What state do you live in? And most states don't require the forms be notarized This is very important that you do what the law says for your specific state Sheri At 10:18 AM 1/11/2010, you wrote: THIS PAST THURS JAN 6TH 2010 I WENT TO VACCLIB.ORG (ALL KINDS OF FORMS) DR.MERCOLA .COM HAS THEM TOO DOWNLOADED DECLARATION OF VACCINATION EXEMPTION WENT TO THE NOTARY AND FOR TEN BUCKS A PIECE MY DAUGHTER AND SON (4 IN APR ) THE NEXT MMR DUE I DONT THINK SO ARE TAKEN CARE OF I WILL NEVER

VACCINATE AGAIN THANKS IRENE From: Bascombe <cbascombetrack@ hotmail.com> no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 8:40:12 AM Subject: RE: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Booster Shots I would give them the exempt form now and not wait until they approach you with the updated vaccine info. Make sure you keep a copy for yourself as well, as many of these schools like to say that they never recieved a copy from parents who wish to have their child exempted. no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com From: m_young26 (DOT) com Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:19:34 +0000 Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Booster Shots Hi, everyone. I'm sure a lot of you have gone through this situation, so

I'm really needing some advice. My son will be 4 at the end of this month and will be due for booster shots I believe, and his daycare will probably ask to get vaccines updated. Unfortunately, I didn't become educated on vaccines until he had already gotten all on the schedule through 15 mos. old, but thanks to the plethora of info on the internet I was able to get educated and I plan to NEVER vaccinate my son again. So my question is, do I beat the daycare to the punch and give them a letter citing my state law for religious exemption or do I first wait for them to bring up the updates? I think they're a very busy daycare and may forget to mention the updates on vaccines anyway, but I would feel better knowing what some of you recommend. Thanks in advance!

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We live in IL and my Son is getting ready to start Kindergarten in the Fall. Can you help me with getting my forms? Thank you, Bridgette From: Sheri Nakken <vaccinedangers@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 8:48:58 PMSubject: Re: Booster

Shots you have to use specific forms for your state, not just any form on vaclib What state do you live in? And most states don't require the forms be notarized This is very important that you do what the law says for your specific state Sheri At 10:18 AM 1/11/2010, you wrote: THIS PAST THURS JAN 6TH 2010 I WENT TO VACCLIB.ORG (ALL KINDS OF FORMS) DR.MERCOLA .COM HAS THEM TOO DOWNLOADED DECLARATION OF VACCINATION EXEMPTION WENT TO THE NOTARY AND FOR TEN BUCKS A PIECE MY DAUGHTER AND SON (4 IN APR ) THE NEXT MMR DUE I DONT THINK SO ARE TAKEN CARE OF I WILL NEVER

VACCINATE AGAIN THANKS IRENE From: Bascombe <cbascombetrack@ hotmail.com> no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 8:40:12 AM Subject: RE: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Booster Shots I would give them the exempt form now and not wait until they approach you with the updated vaccine info. Make sure you keep a copy for yourself as well, as many of these schools like to say that they never recieved a copy from parents who wish to have their child exempted. no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com From: m_young26 (DOT) com Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:19:34 +0000 Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Booster Shots Hi, everyone. I'm sure a lot of you have gone through this situation, so

I'm really needing some advice. My son will be 4 at the end of this month and will be due for booster shots I believe, and his daycare will probably ask to get vaccines updated. Unfortunately, I didn't become educated on vaccines until he had already gotten all on the schedule through 15 mos. old, but thanks to the plethora of info on the internet I was able to get educated and I plan to NEVER vaccinate my son again. So my question is, do I beat the daycare to the punch and give them a letter citing my state law for religious exemption or do I first wait for them to bring up the updates? I think they're a very busy daycare and may forget to mention the updates on vaccines anyway, but I would feel better knowing what some of you recommend. Thanks in advance!

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Everyone, thanks for your advice on this topic - it has helped me greatly. I have checked the laws for my state, which is SD, and have decided to write my own letter citing the state law religious exemption in lieu of the standard waiver that's usually given as I've heard that one can easily incriminate themselves by signing that as the wording in it gives the state ammo against the parent if the child should contract the diseases in the future. Sheri, you had mentioned that when I write the letter that I should state what to do and what not to do in emergency in case authorities would try to vaccinate my son. That's something I hadn't thought about before but think is an excellent idea - could anyone point me to some example emergency letters online to research or maybe some ideas from what wording you've included in your

emergency letters before? This is unchartered territory for me so thanks for your advice!

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Everyone, thanks for your advice on this topic - it has helped me greatly. I have checked the laws for my state, which is SD, and have decided to write my own letter citing the state law religious exemption in lieu of the standard waiver that's usually given as I've heard that one can easily incriminate themselves by signing that as the wording in it gives the state ammo against the parent if the child should contract the diseases in the future. Sheri, you had mentioned that when I write the letter that I should state what to do and what not to do in emergency in case authorities would try to vaccinate my son. That's something I hadn't thought about before but think is an excellent idea - could anyone point me to some example emergency letters online to research or maybe some ideas from what wording you've included in your

emergency letters before? This is unchartered territory for me so thanks for your advice!

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Everyone, thanks for your advice on this topic - it has helped me greatly. I have checked the laws for my state, which is SD, and have decided to write my own letter citing the state law religious exemption in lieu of the standard waiver that's usually given as I've heard that one can easily incriminate themselves by signing that as the wording in it gives the state ammo against the parent if the child should contract the diseases in the future. Sheri, you had mentioned that when I write the letter that I should state what to do and what not to do in emergency in case authorities would try to vaccinate my son. That's something I hadn't thought about before but think is an excellent idea - could anyone point me to some example emergency letters online to research or maybe some ideas from what wording you've included in your

emergency letters before? This is unchartered territory for me so thanks for your advice!

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Everyone, thanks for your advice on this topic - it has helped me greatly. I have checked the laws for my state, which is SD, and have decided to write my own letter citing the state law religious exemption in lieu of the standard waiver that's usually given as I've heard that one can easily incriminate themselves by signing that as the wording in it gives the state ammo against the parent if the child should contract the diseases in the future. Sheri, you had mentioned that when I write the letter that I should state what to do and what not to do in emergency in case authorities would try to vaccinate my son. That's something I hadn't thought about before but think is an excellent idea - could anyone point me to some example emergency letters online to research or maybe some ideas from what wording you've included in your

emergency letters before? This is unchartered territory for me so thanks for your advice!

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That's excellent advise Peggy. I know people who have vaccinated before and then decided that they no longer wanted to have their chld immunized, get into problems with both the public and private schools, when the school is the one who had to contact them first. I've told people to go to the school with the form and beat them to the punch. Otherwise they will make life difficult.

no-forced-vaccination From: rpggyr@...Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:56:33 +0000Subject: Re: Booster Shots

I say do it now before it becomes a battle. If you wait for them to send you notice he is due and then pop in with an exmpetion letter human nature might be that they will challenge you. The other thing is if this is a privately owned day care they may still be able to refuse the exemption. I went through this many years ago with my now 15 year old Granddaughter. I live in Massachusetts. Fortunately for me this Day care accepted state vouchers so they had to comply with the State law of accepting religious exemptions. Remember the the best defense is a good offense. I can understand why you would not want send out a red flag, but My question is did they ask you for his shot records when he first enrolled. Most day cares have visits from local boards of health to make sure their records are up to date.>> Hi, everyone. I'm sure a lot of you have gone through this situation, so I'm really needing some advice. My son will be 4 at the end of this month and will be due for booster shots I believe, and his daycare will probably ask to get vaccines updated. Unfortunately, I didn't become educated on vaccines until he had already gotten all on the schedule through 15 mos. old, but thanks to the plethora of info on the internet I was able to get educated and I plan to NEVER vaccinate my son again. So my question is, do I beat the daycare to the punch and give them a letter citing my state law for religious exemption or do I first wait for them to bring up the updates? I think they're a very busy daycare and may forget to mention the updates on vaccines anyway, but I would feel better knowing what some of you recommend. Thanks in advance!>

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That's excellent advise Peggy. I know people who have vaccinated before and then decided that they no longer wanted to have their chld immunized, get into problems with both the public and private schools, when the school is the one who had to contact them first. I've told people to go to the school with the form and beat them to the punch. Otherwise they will make life difficult.

no-forced-vaccination From: rpggyr@...Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:56:33 +0000Subject: Re: Booster Shots

I say do it now before it becomes a battle. If you wait for them to send you notice he is due and then pop in with an exmpetion letter human nature might be that they will challenge you. The other thing is if this is a privately owned day care they may still be able to refuse the exemption. I went through this many years ago with my now 15 year old Granddaughter. I live in Massachusetts. Fortunately for me this Day care accepted state vouchers so they had to comply with the State law of accepting religious exemptions. Remember the the best defense is a good offense. I can understand why you would not want send out a red flag, but My question is did they ask you for his shot records when he first enrolled. Most day cares have visits from local boards of health to make sure their records are up to date.>> Hi, everyone. I'm sure a lot of you have gone through this situation, so I'm really needing some advice. My son will be 4 at the end of this month and will be due for booster shots I believe, and his daycare will probably ask to get vaccines updated. Unfortunately, I didn't become educated on vaccines until he had already gotten all on the schedule through 15 mos. old, but thanks to the plethora of info on the internet I was able to get educated and I plan to NEVER vaccinate my son again. So my question is, do I beat the daycare to the punch and give them a letter citing my state law for religious exemption or do I first wait for them to bring up the updates? I think they're a very busy daycare and may forget to mention the updates on vaccines anyway, but I would feel better knowing what some of you recommend. Thanks in advance!>

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At 10:15 AM 1/12/2010, you wrote:

Everyone, thanks for your advice on this topic - it has helped me

greatly. I have checked the laws for my state, which is SD, and have

decided to write my own letter citing the state law religious exemption

in lieu of the standard waiver that's usually given as I've heard that

one can easily incriminate themselves by signing that as the wording in

it gives the state ammo against the parent if the child should contract

the diseases in the future.

Word your letter with the exact wording of the law

Sheri, you had mentioned that

when I write the letter that I should state what to do and what not to do

in emergency in case authorities would try to vaccinate my son. That's

something I hadn't thought about before but think is an excellent idea -

could anyone point me to some example emergency letters online to

research or maybe some ideas from what wording you've included in your

emergency letters before? This is unchartered territory for me so thanks

for your advice!

Have that be a separate letter - sorry don't have any samples

but good to make it a positive letter and not a don't do this and don't

do that

you don't want to alienate your provider and make life hard for your

child there.

Sheri

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At 10:15 AM 1/12/2010, you wrote:

Everyone, thanks for your advice on this topic - it has helped me

greatly. I have checked the laws for my state, which is SD, and have

decided to write my own letter citing the state law religious exemption

in lieu of the standard waiver that's usually given as I've heard that

one can easily incriminate themselves by signing that as the wording in

it gives the state ammo against the parent if the child should contract

the diseases in the future.

Word your letter with the exact wording of the law

Sheri, you had mentioned that

when I write the letter that I should state what to do and what not to do

in emergency in case authorities would try to vaccinate my son. That's

something I hadn't thought about before but think is an excellent idea -

could anyone point me to some example emergency letters online to

research or maybe some ideas from what wording you've included in your

emergency letters before? This is unchartered territory for me so thanks

for your advice!

Have that be a separate letter - sorry don't have any samples

but good to make it a positive letter and not a don't do this and don't

do that

you don't want to alienate your provider and make life hard for your

child there.

Sheri

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian

Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA

Vaccines -

http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/

Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy

Online/email courses - next classes start January 27 & 28

http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or

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There are only 3 " places " you can be with vaccine requirements: 1) up to date

with all legally required vaccines, 2) exercising a valid legal exemption

according to your state's laws/procedures, or 3) neither of the first two. It's

this last category that gets people into trouble, as people there are not in

compliance with the law and risk being held accountable for that. So, I always

recommending doing one of the first two at all times (with a strong preference

for #2, of course!). This way, you are not vulnerable to possible challenges

such as medical neglect, or possible fines or other consequences (which will

vary from state to state).

Alan , J.D. www.vaccinerights.com

>

<snip>...

> So my question is, do I beat the daycare to the punch and give them a letter

citing my state law for religious exemption or do I first wait for them to bring

up the updates? . . . >

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Jen - thanks for asking this question. This was what I was trying to ask but I couldn't find the right words at the moment! Sheri - So now that we know what emergency situations may arise where the child could be given vaccinations as "standard procedure", then would a letter to the school/daycare simply stating should emergency situations arise no vaccines are to be administered without approval from the parent be sufficient?

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At 08:13 AM 1/14/2010, you wrote:

>

>

>Jen - thanks for asking this question. This was what I was trying to

>ask but I couldn't find the right words at the moment! Sheri - So

>now that we know what emergency situations may arise where the child

>could be given vaccinations as " standard procedure " , then would a

>letter to the school/daycare simply stating should emergency

>situations arise no vaccines are to be administered without approval

>from the parent be sufficient?

You need to know what the emergency procedures are for such a

situation and have your bases covered.

Put whatever you need to in that letter - I assume you probably are

reachable no matter what happens but if an ambulance takes the child

away before you can get there, need to have a letter stating

that. But that doesn't mean anyone will remember your letter.

Probably should tattoo it on your children's arms and legs in the

areas where injections are given ;-(

Sheri

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Sheri,

Your explaination about tetnus shot is right on. It happened to my granddaughter

about 4 years ago. She was playing kickball in the gym and slid into bleachers

and gashed her knee. My opinion, it was deep but did not need sticthes. Even

though I had it writtien NO TETNUS VACCINE they took her to the ER. They claimed

they tried to call me but my cell was on me and turned on. They finally did call

me because when they attempted to give her the shot she went balistic. She was

screaming at them that she was snot supposed to have any vaccines and to call

her Nanna. Thank God she had a tantrum. They did call and I gave them the

impression I would come and calm her down. I did this because I was affraid if I

told them no shot they would try to force her. I got there and saw the cut. I

made a pont to ask if it was just tetnus or a TD. they said TD and I said no

thanks, it has Thimerisol in it. They washed it up and we left. Guess what they

don't bother to read the files.

> >

> >

> >Jen - thanks for asking this question. This was what I was trying to

> >ask but I couldn't find the right words at the moment! Sheri - So

> >now that we know what emergency situations may arise where the child

> >could be given vaccinations as " standard procedure " , then would a

> >letter to the school/daycare simply stating should emergency

> >situations arise no vaccines are to be administered without approval

> >from the parent be sufficient?

>

>

> You need to know what the emergency procedures are for such a

> situation and have your bases covered.

> Put whatever you need to in that letter - I assume you probably are

> reachable no matter what happens but if an ambulance takes the child

> away before you can get there, need to have a letter stating

> that. But that doesn't mean anyone will remember your letter.

>

> Probably should tattoo it on your children's arms and legs in the

> areas where injections are given ;-(

> Sheri

>

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Sheri and Peggy, great points and thank you for speaking up! This is why we

need our grandparents (if they are done raising the kids!) to call the health

departments and make a fuss when they overstep the line, stand by their children

in the delivery rooms when vaccines are given without permission, call doctor's

offices when they refuse our grandchild because they haven't submitted to their

ludicrious vaccine program! There are two groups in this country that do not

have advocates, the military, who are ordered to take them, and young parents

who get put in the suspicous category if they don't conform to the whole vaccine

list. Why should a parent be faced with the potential for autism or threats put

on the child every time they enter any school or program until they are 25 while

the older generation is out playing golf? Did you all know that on a military

base facility, there are no exmeptions for children---a non-vaccinated child is

completely barred from school/daycare, so a working parent of a deployed spouse

may have no choice but to vaccinate or what if a family is living overseas on

base??!!! I think there is a serious disconnect right now between reality and

the way we think things are!

> > >

> > >

> > >Jen - thanks for asking this question. This was what I was trying to

> > >ask but I couldn't find the right words at the moment! Sheri - So

> > >now that we know what emergency situations may arise where the child

> > >could be given vaccinations as " standard procedure " , then would a

> > >letter to the school/daycare simply stating should emergency

> > >situations arise no vaccines are to be administered without approval

> > >from the parent be sufficient?

> >

> >

> > You need to know what the emergency procedures are for such a

> > situation and have your bases covered.

> > Put whatever you need to in that letter - I assume you probably are

> > reachable no matter what happens but if an ambulance takes the child

> > away before you can get there, need to have a letter stating

> > that. But that doesn't mean anyone will remember your letter.

> >

> > Probably should tattoo it on your children's arms and legs in the

> > areas where injections are given ;-(

> > Sheri

> >

>

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At 12:06 PM 1/15/2010, you wrote:

Sheri and Peggy, great points and thank you for speaking up! This is why

we need our grandparents (if they are done raising the kids!) to call the

health departments and make a fuss when they overstep the line, stand by

their children in the delivery rooms when vaccines are given without

permission, call doctor's offices when they refuse our grandchild because

they haven't submitted to their ludicrious vaccine program! There are two

groups in this country that do not have advocates, the military, who are

ordered to take them, and young parents who get put in the suspicous

category if they don't conform to the whole vaccine list. Why should a

parent be faced with the potential for autism or threats put on the child

every time they enter any school or program until they are 25 while the

older generation is out playing golf? Did you all know that on a military

base facility, there are no exmeptions for children---a non-vaccinated

child is completely barred from school/daycare, so a working parent of a

deployed spouse may have no choice but to vaccinate or what if a family

is living overseas on base??!!! I think there is a serious disconnect

right now between reality and the way we think things are!

I know that's what they say and what it looks like and what others have

reported, but I advise many who travel out of the country and all have

been able to refuse vaccines for their children.

But yes, the powers that be, small in number, but have us by the cajones

and people have got to out them and expose them.

There are beings running things (and always have) that have no souls or

consciences - very different than the rest of us.

Time to expose them and take back our lives

Sheri

> > >

> > >

> > >Jen - thanks for asking this question. This was what I was

trying to

> > >ask but I couldn't find the right words at the moment!

Sheri - So

> > >now that we know what emergency situations may arise where

the child

> > >could be given vaccinations as " standard

procedure " , then would a

> > >letter to the school/daycare simply stating should

emergency

> > >situations arise no vaccines are to be administered without

approval

> > >from the parent be sufficient?

> >

> >

> > You need to know what the emergency procedures are for such a

> > situation and have your bases covered.

> > Put whatever you need to in that letter - I assume you probably

are

> > reachable no matter what happens but if an ambulance takes the

child

> > away before you can get there, need to have a letter stating

> > that. But that doesn't mean anyone will remember your

letter.

> >

> > Probably should tattoo it on your children's arms and legs in

the

> > areas where injections are given ;-(

> > Sheri

> >

>

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