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Best of luck tomorrow, Elaine! I'll be thinking of you.

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From: " Elaine " <elainer@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 6:09 PM

Subject: [ ] Surgery

> Dear Friends,

>

> I will be off-line for at least a week due

> to having foot surgery tomorrow and then

> having to elevate my foot " toes above my nose "

> for at least a week (supposed to be until Jan 15,

> but you all KNOW I will not last that long!!)

>

> I look forward to having a TON of messages to

> read when I get back.

>

> I would appreciate your prayers tomorrow.

>

> Your friend,

> Elaine

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Elaine,

I hope your surgery goes well today. I pray for the skilled hands of your

surgeon to fix all that is wrong, and hope you have a speedy recovery.

God bless you,

a

----- Original Message -----

From: Elaine <elainer@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 7:09 PM

Subject: [ ] Surgery

> Dear Friends,

>

> I will be off-line for at least a week due

> to having foot surgery tomorrow and then

> having to elevate my foot " toes above my nose "

> for at least a week (supposed to be until Jan 15,

> but you all KNOW I will not last that long!!)

>

> I look forward to having a TON of messages to

> read when I get back.

>

> I would appreciate your prayers tomorrow.

>

> Your friend,

> Elaine

> " Come, let us sing for joy to the Lord;

> let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation.

> Let us come before him with thanksgiving

> and extol him with music and song. " Psalm 95:1-2

>

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HI that was a great email I hope you are recovering from your op. Would you mind telling me what dose of LDN you are on as I am keen to know if people on 3mg still loose wait!

Pat

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Sounds like you are doing very well you give me much hope. I just started my LDN last night. If I can get the results you have I will be elated. I just want my walking normal, I can cope with the rest. Hope you're feeling better.

God Bless, Kim R.

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Pat,

Sometimes I take 3mg and sometimes 4.5 mg. Both work.

Lynda

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low dose naltrexone

Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:15 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] surgery

HI that was a great email I hope you are recovering from your op. Would you mind telling me what dose of LDN you are on as I am keen to know if people on 3mg still loose wait!Pat

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Thanks for your post Lynda - I love reading what people who have

been on LDN for a while have to say.

Hope you continue to get better post op! Sounds like you made

excellent choices for your recovery. Good luck,

Cinders

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> Thanks all. I guess everyone is at different stages. I probably

could have stayed at my job but I really hated it. I am looking for

a new job but thought I would take the time to build up my

strength. (not happening) I have been feeling a little better the

last couple of days. I went back to just taking ibuprofen before I

exercise. I also take provigil to help me with the fatique. Seems

like that helps when I exercise. But if I overexercise, I am worse

the next day ....trying to find a balance. I want to thank all of

you for being here. I too, haven't found the support out here in

the real world. I get the feeling unless people have RA they just

dont get it. I really don't even know for sure that I have RA.

The primary care doctor says if it is RA, I will feel alot worse

than I do now. I can't imagine.

> God bless all of you who are suffering with this on a daily

basis ...

> Eileen

>

Eileen,

You just hang in there with that positive attidude. Do what you can,

while you can.If I would have known about this 3 years ago...believe

me , I would have done everything that I have ever wanted to do. I

have been trying to keep a positive attitude, but I went to my hand

doc on Mon., and I have to have 2 more surgerties ion my elbow. The

first, to move my ulnar nerve, he said that this one will be the

worst....3 to 4 month recovery...then...he has to go back in and

clean out all of the infalmation and bone spurs. I refuse to let it

get me totally down, but can't help but be a little apprehensive. My

first surgery is on Halloween morning!!! SPOOKY!!Take care and God

bless.

Gloria in Okla.

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> Hi!

> I had my a Lap Chole Wednesday and so far I'm feeling good,

sore...but good. At least I haven't had an attack or had the back

pain that I felt everyday no matter what. I had alot of stones and

they were in there so long that the stones were slick, kind of look

like river rocks. Well anyway I was just wondering if any of you

have had a " good " experience with your gallbladder surgery? I am

interested in the liver flush but will have to wait awhile on that.

Any input, suggestions or advice for me would be great.

> Thanks,

>

> Hi , I had surgery on the 11 of December. I feel better than

I have in a long time. I was very scared to have surgery. I spent

one night in the hospital. I'm still sore, but overall I am doing

better and taking it slow. The most pain I feel is my navel, it

hurts like a son of a gun. I hope you feel better everyday! angela

> __________________________________________________

>

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I had my gallbladder removed the first of November, and I feel GREAT!

My grandmother had hers out 35 years ago, she's great. 2 of my aunts had

theirs out about 20 yrs ago, they are all doing great. My mom had hers out

a month ago and she is doing great. None of us have had any problems from

having it removed, and no attacks since.

I'm all for keeping the gallbladder when possible, but I don't regret my

decision. I would recommend eating healthy, although you may not have

attacks after eating bad anymore - eat healthy for YOU! Being in that

surgery room made me want to be really healthy - I don't ever want a health

problem caused by myself and an unhealthy diet. So I just recommend eating

healthy for now!

Traci

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From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On

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Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:03 PM

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>

> Hi!

> I had my a Lap Chole Wednesday and so far I'm feeling good,

sore...but good. At least I haven't had an attack or had the back

pain that I felt everyday no matter what. I had alot of stones and

they were in there so long that the stones were slick, kind of look

like river rocks. Well anyway I was just wondering if any of you

have had a " good " experience with your gallbladder surgery? I am

interested in the liver flush but will have to wait awhile on that.

Any input, suggestions or advice for me would be great.

> Thanks,

>

> Hi , I had surgery on the 11 of December. I feel better than

I have in a long time. I was very scared to have surgery. I spent

one night in the hospital. I'm still sore, but overall I am doing

better and taking it slow. The most pain I feel is my navel, it

hurts like a son of a gun. I hope you feel better everyday! angela

> __________________________________________________

>

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I would like to know how old people were when they had their gallbladders

out or started to suffer with gallstones? I had mine removed 10 years ago

at 22yrs. The surgeon said he believed I was probably born with them because

of state of my bladder which makes sense my mother had gallstones when

pregnant with me. Most of my mothers family were young my grandmother 18yrs

and my mother 23yrs. The youngest was my auntie who had hers removed at

13yrs. My brother so far the eldest at 35yrs, he nearly died due to

complications. One of my uncles just had a liver transplant and he looks

the picture of health now. Liver disease is common among my family . I

have been told my my liver does not function well, so my diet is very

healthy, and liver friendly.

Jane

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I had my gallbladder out in November of this year. I am 31 years old and

pregnant with my 5th child. My maternal grandmother, 2 of my mom's sisters

and my mom all had gallstones and had their gallbladders removed. I'm not

sure about being born with them, but I have heard they are hereditary.

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Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:02 PM

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I would like to know how old people were when they had their gallbladders

out or started to suffer with gallstones? I had mine removed 10 years ago

at 22yrs. The surgeon said he believed I was probably born with them because

of state of my bladder which makes sense my mother had gallstones when

pregnant with me. Most of my mothers family were young my grandmother 18yrs

and my mother 23yrs. The youngest was my auntie who had hers removed at

13yrs. My brother so far the eldest at 35yrs, he nearly died due to

complications. One of my uncles just had a liver transplant and he looks

the picture of health now. Liver disease is common among my family . I

have been told my my liver does not function well, so my diet is very

healthy, and liver friendly.

Jane

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I have an appointment with a surgeon after the New Year. I am hoping he won't

want to remove the gallbladder...just get rid of the gallstones.

Traci <tracic@...> wrote:

I had my gallbladder out in November of this year. I am 31 years old

and

pregnant with my 5th child. My maternal grandmother, 2 of my mom's sisters

and my mom all had gallstones and had their gallbladders removed. I'm not

sure about being born with them, but I have heard they are hereditary.

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Subject: Re: Surgery

I would like to know how old people were when they had their gallbladders

out or started to suffer with gallstones? I had mine removed 10 years ago

at 22yrs. The surgeon said he believed I was probably born with them because

of state of my bladder which makes sense my mother had gallstones when

pregnant with me. Most of my mothers family were young my grandmother 18yrs

and my mother 23yrs. The youngest was my auntie who had hers removed at

13yrs. My brother so far the eldest at 35yrs, he nearly died due to

complications. One of my uncles just had a liver transplant and he looks

the picture of health now. Liver disease is common among my family . I

have been told my my liver does not function well, so my diet is very

healthy, and liver friendly.

Jane

Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories:

http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4

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Hi , I too, hope your surgeon won't want to remove your gall

bladder. Unfortunately, he is like a highly educated workman whose

only tool is a hammer, and to him everything looks like a nail.

Surgeons do surgery. Their only tool is surgery. They try to solve

as many problems as they can get away with by surgery. They justify

surgery as an easy fix, and coincidentally, they make a very

comfortable living in the process. They don't get paid a lot for

consultations that end in recommending no surgery. They get paid a

lot for surgeries. After all, your problem is gallstones; he will

remove them all in a matter of minutes and you will never have another

gallstone for the rest of your life because you will not have a

gallbladder for them to collect in. The symptom will be gone, but the

problem will still be there getting worse and worse. Something about

your physiology creates gall stones and the physiology is the problem.

Diet, exersize, proper amount of water, etc. cures the problem. The

trouble is that the cure is slow just like the problem took time to

show up in symptoms. Many on this list have fought valiantly for

years to keep their ailing gall bladder and in the end had it removed.

The attempted cure didn't remove the pain and discomfort as fast as

the condition progressed.

Please read the links on these posts as a good place to start. The

files section, archives, and links on the homepage of our group's

website has more info. In order to know enough to make an informed

decision, which may be a different decision than the surgeon

recommends, you will have to learn quite a bit before your

appointment. It's worth the effort though :) What you learn will

help you become more healthy with (and I hope this won't happen) or

without a gall bladder.

Enjoy the learning journey :)

Vince

> I had my gallbladder out in November of this year. I am 31

years old and

> pregnant with my 5th child. My maternal grandmother, 2 of my mom's

sisters

> and my mom all had gallstones and had their gallbladders removed.

I'm not

> sure about being born with them, but I have heard they are hereditary.

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Vince,

Many thanks for your response --- looks like I have quite a bit of reading to

do before my consult. The good news is that I managed to find a surgeon that my

dad has dealt with in the past --- my dad is highly critical of most doctors but

this surgeon is one of the few doctors he respects. So I hope when I walk into

his office armed with my research that he will be open to what I have to say.

Again thank you for your advice ......I feel as if I am on the right track!

Kind regards,

VR <new_man85@...> wrote:

Hi , I too, hope your surgeon won't want to remove your gall

bladder. Unfortunately, he is like a highly educated workman whose

only tool is a hammer, and to him everything looks like a nail.

Surgeons do surgery. Their only tool is surgery. They try to solve

as many problems as they can get away with by surgery. They justify

surgery as an easy fix, and coincidentally, they make a very

comfortable living in the process. They don't get paid a lot for

consultations that end in recommending no surgery. They get paid a

lot for surgeries. After all, your problem is gallstones; he will

remove them all in a matter of minutes and you will never have another

gallstone for the rest of your life because you will not have a

gallbladder for them to collect in. The symptom will be gone, but the

problem will still be there getting worse and worse. Something about

your physiology creates gall stones and the physiology is the problem.

Diet, exersize, proper amount of water, etc. cures the problem. The

trouble is that the cure is slow just like the problem took time to

show up in symptoms. Many on this list have fought valiantly for

years to keep their ailing gall bladder and in the end had it removed.

The attempted cure didn't remove the pain and discomfort as fast as

the condition progressed.

Please read the links on these posts as a good place to start. The

files section, archives, and links on the homepage of our group's

website has more info. In order to know enough to make an informed

decision, which may be a different decision than the surgeon

recommends, you will have to learn quite a bit before your

appointment. It's worth the effort though :) What you learn will

help you become more healthy with (and I hope this won't happen) or

without a gall bladder.

Enjoy the learning journey :)

Vince

> I had my gallbladder out in November of this year. I am 31

years old and

> pregnant with my 5th child. My maternal grandmother, 2 of my mom's

sisters

> and my mom all had gallstones and had their gallbladders removed.

I'm not

> sure about being born with them, but I have heard they are hereditary.

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Hi , You're welcome.

Please think now about what you will do if your surgeon is not open to

the alternatives that you research and uncover. He sounds like a good

one. Even so, all of his training has prepared him to accept as his

source of health information

ONLY multimillion dollar double blind placebo controlled studies with

only one variable per study. The information you uncover will not

meet this " gold standard " of credibility. If he discredits all the

information you have, it won't matter to him how true it all is.

He'll assume it can't be trusted.

If this is his rationale, it is not scientific nor is it logical.

Just because no one has spent millions of dollars studying a natural

cure doesn't mean the cure is unsafe or that it doesn't work. They

haven't proven it is (by their standard of proof) and they haven't

proven it isn't. We don't study the effects of drinking water every

day or eating a taco every day, yet we accept from our common

experience that they are safe and nourishing. We don't need studies

or a doctor to tell us that.

No one with millions of dollars to spend on studies is going to spend

it proving that a safe alternative to drugs and surgery exists. They

cannot patent the flush process and make their investment back plus

more, therefore they don't spend their money to prove the flushes are

safe and effective. They know how to make money, and hold onto what

they make. Who's they? The drug companies, medical schools, and

doctors with their associations (AMA, Etc.). They are doing the

research that they choose to do, but research costs money. The people

issuing the money are only funding research that has the potential to

bring them more money than they spend on research. That's the

American way. I'm glad to be an American, but I look further than the

conventionally accepted methods to find out how to stay healthy. That

brings me beyond what the Medical people in the good ole' USA are

promoting. No country is perfect including the USA, but many more

people are flooding into this country than are leaving, so it must be

a better place to be than many others. The health care here is

definitely not any where near the best in the world in keeping us healthy.

Just encouraging you to look at all the possibilities and be ready for

what ever happens. That way you won't get caught off-gaurd and be

pushed into a decision that you weren't ready to make.

Congratulations on finding a surgeon who is obviously a cut above the

rest. That's a good start :)

Vince

> > I had my gallbladder out in November of this year. I am 31

> years old and

> > pregnant with my 5th child. My maternal grandmother, 2 of my mom's

> sisters

> > and my mom all had gallstones and had their gallbladders removed.

> I'm not

> > sure about being born with them, but I have heard they are hereditary.

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