Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

[Guest guest]

Cherly: The theory behind bi-polar and SSRIs seems to be one that is repeated over and over again. Those of us who were catapulted into mania while on these drugs were assured that it was NOT the drugs at fault, but rather an underlying illness that was simply brought to the fore FROM these drugs. I had never had a manic episode in my life until Paxil, and for two full years after I took my last hit, I was on an emotional roller-coaster ride. And just how SHOULD you feel dealing with this mess? Of course you are going to be mercurial; it's normal. Should you have no highs and lows; be flatlined emotionally? It takes a very very very long time to equalize after you've taken these drugs. And if you are going through withdrawals during this period, well, there is no way you are going to have normal emotions.

[Guest guest]

Cherly: The theory behind bi-polar and SSRIs seems to be one that is repeated over and over again. Those of us who were catapulted into mania while on these drugs were assured that it was NOT the drugs at fault, but rather an underlying illness that was simply brought to the fore FROM these drugs. I had never had a manic episode in my life until Paxil, and for two full years after I took my last hit, I was on an emotional roller-coaster ride. And just how SHOULD you feel dealing with this mess? Of course you are going to be mercurial; it's normal. Should you have no highs and lows; be flatlined emotionally? It takes a very very very long time to equalize after you've taken these drugs. And if you are going through withdrawals during this period, well, there is no way you are going to have normal emotions.

[Guest guest]

Cherly: The theory behind bi-polar and SSRIs seems to be one that is repeated over and over again. Those of us who were catapulted into mania while on these drugs were assured that it was NOT the drugs at fault, but rather an underlying illness that was simply brought to the fore FROM these drugs. I had never had a manic episode in my life until Paxil, and for two full years after I took my last hit, I was on an emotional roller-coaster ride. And just how SHOULD you feel dealing with this mess? Of course you are going to be mercurial; it's normal. Should you have no highs and lows; be flatlined emotionally? It takes a very very very long time to equalize after you've taken these drugs. And if you are going through withdrawals during this period, well, there is no way you are going to have normal emotions.

[Guest guest]

Cherly: The theory behind bi-polar and SSRIs seems to be one that is repeated over and over again. Those of us who were catapulted into mania while on these drugs were assured that it was NOT the drugs at fault, but rather an underlying illness that was simply brought to the fore FROM these drugs. I had never had a manic episode in my life until Paxil, and for two full years after I took my last hit, I was on an emotional roller-coaster ride. And just how SHOULD you feel dealing with this mess? Of course you are going to be mercurial; it's normal. Should you have no highs and lows; be flatlined emotionally? It takes a very very very long time to equalize after you've taken these drugs. And if you are going through withdrawals during this period, well, there is no way you are going to have normal emotions.

[Guest guest]

Cheryl: I'm sorry about your mom. Today is the sixth month anniversary of not only the terrorist attacks but the date that my mom was dx'd with cancer and she died exactly 6 weeks later. Today is just a bad day, all around. Take a long walk, talk to yourself. Sounds like the pastor set you up. It doesn't surprise me that he would use your pain as an opportunity to deliver his own prejudicial sermon. It's this kind of malarky and hypocrisy that will not allow me to set foot inside a church, ever, for any reason! I believe that God or Tao (which is above God, according to the 8,000 year old philosphy of Taoism) resides in all of us. We must look inside ourselves for peace and salvation, not to other mortals who want to impose their will on us (which is just fascism in disguise). You are in a difficult situation; it's perfect for people to foist their own b.s. on you. You must follow your own path and not listen or allow these other well-meaning people to sway you, even in the name of religion. That was a disgusting display of hypocrisy, but at least you now know that you won't get the support you are looking for there. You are no doubt STILL suffering from Paxil withdrawals. They don't end once you're off the drug, in fact, the worst often begins then.

[Guest guest]

Cheryl: I'm sorry about your mom. Today is the sixth month anniversary of not only the terrorist attacks but the date that my mom was dx'd with cancer and she died exactly 6 weeks later. Today is just a bad day, all around. Take a long walk, talk to yourself. Sounds like the pastor set you up. It doesn't surprise me that he would use your pain as an opportunity to deliver his own prejudicial sermon. It's this kind of malarky and hypocrisy that will not allow me to set foot inside a church, ever, for any reason! I believe that God or Tao (which is above God, according to the 8,000 year old philosphy of Taoism) resides in all of us. We must look inside ourselves for peace and salvation, not to other mortals who want to impose their will on us (which is just fascism in disguise). You are in a difficult situation; it's perfect for people to foist their own b.s. on you. You must follow your own path and not listen or allow these other well-meaning people to sway you, even in the name of religion. That was a disgusting display of hypocrisy, but at least you now know that you won't get the support you are looking for there. You are no doubt STILL suffering from Paxil withdrawals. They don't end once you're off the drug, in fact, the worst often begins then.

[Guest guest]

Dear Cheryl,

You said:

<<Hi all. I just have one question for now. Can SSRIs and benzos make a

person bi-polar? I'm not sure if it the stress, or if I have become

bi-polar. I know the symptoms, because my mom was bi-polar. I have noticed

things in myself since getting off the drugs that I don't like. Like, the

other day, when I posted about suing Wyeth, I was extremely high on life.

And then for no reason, a few hours later, I was crying uncontrollably. I

had hit bottom again. It is happening to me quite frequently. I was not like

this before I took the drugs. But, then again, I wasn't under near as much

stress, either. What do you guys and gals think? Which one could it be?>>

First, yes, SSRIs can mimic bipolar disorder; however, I'd be hard-pressed

to diagnose a person as having a bipolar disorder who is involved in a

lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company, is reminded of it by writing about

it,

then has a " grief reaction " . You have a number of reasons to be feeling

grief.

ly, " bipolar disorder " is a disorder that is not psychiatric, but

metabolic,

and is NOT healed by neuroleptic drugs but can be healed by giving the

body what it needs from substances that are compatible and native to the

body.

Having said that, it is fully possible to be experiencing the syndrome

of SSRI discontinuation even years after stopping the drug. Stress or

illness

will re-trigger this syndrome when you feel you've gotten past it.

It may help to take a look at some of the websites again.

http://www.prozactruth.com

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com

http://www.drugawareness.org

http://www.evildrugs.com

http://www.breggin.com

http://www.pssg.org

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Dear Cheryl,

You said:

<<Hi all. I just have one question for now. Can SSRIs and benzos make a

person bi-polar? I'm not sure if it the stress, or if I have become

bi-polar. I know the symptoms, because my mom was bi-polar. I have noticed

things in myself since getting off the drugs that I don't like. Like, the

other day, when I posted about suing Wyeth, I was extremely high on life.

And then for no reason, a few hours later, I was crying uncontrollably. I

had hit bottom again. It is happening to me quite frequently. I was not like

this before I took the drugs. But, then again, I wasn't under near as much

stress, either. What do you guys and gals think? Which one could it be?>>

First, yes, SSRIs can mimic bipolar disorder; however, I'd be hard-pressed

to diagnose a person as having a bipolar disorder who is involved in a

lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company, is reminded of it by writing about

it,

then has a " grief reaction " . You have a number of reasons to be feeling

grief.

ly, " bipolar disorder " is a disorder that is not psychiatric, but

metabolic,

and is NOT healed by neuroleptic drugs but can be healed by giving the

body what it needs from substances that are compatible and native to the

body.

Having said that, it is fully possible to be experiencing the syndrome

of SSRI discontinuation even years after stopping the drug. Stress or

illness

will re-trigger this syndrome when you feel you've gotten past it.

It may help to take a look at some of the websites again.

http://www.prozactruth.com

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com

http://www.drugawareness.org

http://www.evildrugs.com

http://www.breggin.com

http://www.pssg.org

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Dear Cheryl,

You said:

<<Hi all. I just have one question for now. Can SSRIs and benzos make a

person bi-polar? I'm not sure if it the stress, or if I have become

bi-polar. I know the symptoms, because my mom was bi-polar. I have noticed

things in myself since getting off the drugs that I don't like. Like, the

other day, when I posted about suing Wyeth, I was extremely high on life.

And then for no reason, a few hours later, I was crying uncontrollably. I

had hit bottom again. It is happening to me quite frequently. I was not like

this before I took the drugs. But, then again, I wasn't under near as much

stress, either. What do you guys and gals think? Which one could it be?>>

First, yes, SSRIs can mimic bipolar disorder; however, I'd be hard-pressed

to diagnose a person as having a bipolar disorder who is involved in a

lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company, is reminded of it by writing about

it,

then has a " grief reaction " . You have a number of reasons to be feeling

grief.

ly, " bipolar disorder " is a disorder that is not psychiatric, but

metabolic,

and is NOT healed by neuroleptic drugs but can be healed by giving the

body what it needs from substances that are compatible and native to the

body.

Having said that, it is fully possible to be experiencing the syndrome

of SSRI discontinuation even years after stopping the drug. Stress or

illness

will re-trigger this syndrome when you feel you've gotten past it.

It may help to take a look at some of the websites again.

http://www.prozactruth.com

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com

http://www.drugawareness.org

http://www.evildrugs.com

http://www.breggin.com

http://www.pssg.org

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Dear Cheryl,

You said:

<<Hi all. I just have one question for now. Can SSRIs and benzos make a

person bi-polar? I'm not sure if it the stress, or if I have become

bi-polar. I know the symptoms, because my mom was bi-polar. I have noticed

things in myself since getting off the drugs that I don't like. Like, the

other day, when I posted about suing Wyeth, I was extremely high on life.

And then for no reason, a few hours later, I was crying uncontrollably. I

had hit bottom again. It is happening to me quite frequently. I was not like

this before I took the drugs. But, then again, I wasn't under near as much

stress, either. What do you guys and gals think? Which one could it be?>>

First, yes, SSRIs can mimic bipolar disorder; however, I'd be hard-pressed

to diagnose a person as having a bipolar disorder who is involved in a

lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company, is reminded of it by writing about

it,

then has a " grief reaction " . You have a number of reasons to be feeling

grief.

ly, " bipolar disorder " is a disorder that is not psychiatric, but

metabolic,

and is NOT healed by neuroleptic drugs but can be healed by giving the

body what it needs from substances that are compatible and native to the

body.

Having said that, it is fully possible to be experiencing the syndrome

of SSRI discontinuation even years after stopping the drug. Stress or

illness

will re-trigger this syndrome when you feel you've gotten past it.

It may help to take a look at some of the websites again.

http://www.prozactruth.com

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com

http://www.drugawareness.org

http://www.evildrugs.com

http://www.breggin.com

http://www.pssg.org

Regards,

[Guest guest]

HI Glitter. Paxil is what I was on too. That, AND xanax. I got off of Paxil

two months ago, and xanax just recently. I AM having withdrawals (at least I

think so). I ride that roller coaster every day of my life. I just wish they

would stop the ride, and let me off. I'm also having pain in my lower back

and kidney areas. Is that normal for withdrawals?

I don't know HOW I'm supposed to feel. I am under SO much stress, and in so

much pain. But it seems like I catch hell no matter WHAT I do. When I'm all

broken up and look bad, people say I'm crazy now and shouldn't have my kids.

Other times, when I DO dress up and fix my makeup and hair,the same people

say " look at her...this isnt bothering her one bit, she MUST have had

something to do with it. " I can't win no matter what I do. Everyone around

me tells me to " snap out of it " when I'm upset. I wish they could understand

that I CAN " T. It's not something I'm doing by choice. I'm in tremendous

emotional pain, but they can't seem to understand it. People are so cold now

days. And yes, they all expect me to be on a flatline. Hell, I HATE this

mania I'm dealing with, but it is better than having no feelings at all,

right? I just wonder when it will ever stop. Do you know, I went back to my

old church yesterday, after three years, because it was the only church I

ever grew as a Christian in. I had called ahead of time to make sure it was

ok for me to go there after what happened. They said " sure! We have missed

you. And, don't worry, no one will say anything to upset you, just welcome

you back with open arms. " Well, during the sermon, the pastor started

preaching about Jesus' trial, and how the people wanted him crucifeid, etc.

THEN, somehow, he got off onto the subject of murder and death penalty. He

said " I don't know how a person could ever get so bold as to kill someone. I

believe in the death penalty whole heartedly for such people. " I wanted to

die!!! Everyone who knew me just turned and looked at me, and I burst into

tears. What is WRONG with people? And they act like this, and then expect me

not to get upset?? I love Steve with all my heart, and the death penalty is

my worst fears now. I have nightmares about it all the time. How could

someone who calls himself a Christian want to see ANYBODY killed? I didn't

try to explain what really happened to them, I just left. I will never go

back. How can I ever heal if I can't even find peace in the house of God?

Guess it doesn't matter, because if God lets them execute Steve for

something that the pharmaceutical company and Steve's doctor did, I won't

care anymore. I will never even pray again. I'm sorry Im rattling on today,

but on top of everything else I'm dealing with, today would have been my

mother's birthday. She was killed in 1998 by a drunk driver. I wish I could

just go to sleep, and never wake up!

Love...Cheryl

>From: glitterari@...

>Reply-SSRI medications

>SSRI medications

>Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:00:49 EST

>

>Cherly: The theory behind bi-polar and SSRIs seems to be one that is

>repeated over and over again. Those of us who were catapulted into mania

>while on these drugs were assured that it was NOT the drugs at fault, but

>rather an underlying illness that was simply brought to the fore FROM these

>drugs. I had never had a manic episode in my life until Paxil, and for two

>full years after I took my last hit, I was on an emotional roller-coaster

>ride. And just how SHOULD you feel dealing with this mess? Of course you

>are going to be mercurial; it's normal. Should you have no highs and lows;

>be flatlined emotionally? It takes a very very very long time to equalize

>after you've taken these drugs. And if you are going through withdrawals

>during this period, well, there is no way you are going to have normal

>emotions.

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[Guest guest]

HI Glitter. Paxil is what I was on too. That, AND xanax. I got off of Paxil

two months ago, and xanax just recently. I AM having withdrawals (at least I

think so). I ride that roller coaster every day of my life. I just wish they

would stop the ride, and let me off. I'm also having pain in my lower back

and kidney areas. Is that normal for withdrawals?

I don't know HOW I'm supposed to feel. I am under SO much stress, and in so

much pain. But it seems like I catch hell no matter WHAT I do. When I'm all

broken up and look bad, people say I'm crazy now and shouldn't have my kids.

Other times, when I DO dress up and fix my makeup and hair,the same people

say " look at her...this isnt bothering her one bit, she MUST have had

something to do with it. " I can't win no matter what I do. Everyone around

me tells me to " snap out of it " when I'm upset. I wish they could understand

that I CAN " T. It's not something I'm doing by choice. I'm in tremendous

emotional pain, but they can't seem to understand it. People are so cold now

days. And yes, they all expect me to be on a flatline. Hell, I HATE this

mania I'm dealing with, but it is better than having no feelings at all,

right? I just wonder when it will ever stop. Do you know, I went back to my

old church yesterday, after three years, because it was the only church I

ever grew as a Christian in. I had called ahead of time to make sure it was

ok for me to go there after what happened. They said " sure! We have missed

you. And, don't worry, no one will say anything to upset you, just welcome

you back with open arms. " Well, during the sermon, the pastor started

preaching about Jesus' trial, and how the people wanted him crucifeid, etc.

THEN, somehow, he got off onto the subject of murder and death penalty. He

said " I don't know how a person could ever get so bold as to kill someone. I

believe in the death penalty whole heartedly for such people. " I wanted to

die!!! Everyone who knew me just turned and looked at me, and I burst into

tears. What is WRONG with people? And they act like this, and then expect me

not to get upset?? I love Steve with all my heart, and the death penalty is

my worst fears now. I have nightmares about it all the time. How could

someone who calls himself a Christian want to see ANYBODY killed? I didn't

try to explain what really happened to them, I just left. I will never go

back. How can I ever heal if I can't even find peace in the house of God?

Guess it doesn't matter, because if God lets them execute Steve for

something that the pharmaceutical company and Steve's doctor did, I won't

care anymore. I will never even pray again. I'm sorry Im rattling on today,

but on top of everything else I'm dealing with, today would have been my

mother's birthday. She was killed in 1998 by a drunk driver. I wish I could

just go to sleep, and never wake up!

Love...Cheryl

>From: glitterari@...

>Reply-SSRI medications

>SSRI medications

>Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:00:49 EST

>

>Cherly: The theory behind bi-polar and SSRIs seems to be one that is

>repeated over and over again. Those of us who were catapulted into mania

>while on these drugs were assured that it was NOT the drugs at fault, but

>rather an underlying illness that was simply brought to the fore FROM these

>drugs. I had never had a manic episode in my life until Paxil, and for two

>full years after I took my last hit, I was on an emotional roller-coaster

>ride. And just how SHOULD you feel dealing with this mess? Of course you

>are going to be mercurial; it's normal. Should you have no highs and lows;

>be flatlined emotionally? It takes a very very very long time to equalize

>after you've taken these drugs. And if you are going through withdrawals

>during this period, well, there is no way you are going to have normal

>emotions.

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[Guest guest]

HI Glitter. Paxil is what I was on too. That, AND xanax. I got off of Paxil

two months ago, and xanax just recently. I AM having withdrawals (at least I

think so). I ride that roller coaster every day of my life. I just wish they

would stop the ride, and let me off. I'm also having pain in my lower back

and kidney areas. Is that normal for withdrawals?

I don't know HOW I'm supposed to feel. I am under SO much stress, and in so

much pain. But it seems like I catch hell no matter WHAT I do. When I'm all

broken up and look bad, people say I'm crazy now and shouldn't have my kids.

Other times, when I DO dress up and fix my makeup and hair,the same people

say " look at her...this isnt bothering her one bit, she MUST have had

something to do with it. " I can't win no matter what I do. Everyone around

me tells me to " snap out of it " when I'm upset. I wish they could understand

that I CAN " T. It's not something I'm doing by choice. I'm in tremendous

emotional pain, but they can't seem to understand it. People are so cold now

days. And yes, they all expect me to be on a flatline. Hell, I HATE this

mania I'm dealing with, but it is better than having no feelings at all,

right? I just wonder when it will ever stop. Do you know, I went back to my

old church yesterday, after three years, because it was the only church I

ever grew as a Christian in. I had called ahead of time to make sure it was

ok for me to go there after what happened. They said " sure! We have missed

you. And, don't worry, no one will say anything to upset you, just welcome

you back with open arms. " Well, during the sermon, the pastor started

preaching about Jesus' trial, and how the people wanted him crucifeid, etc.

THEN, somehow, he got off onto the subject of murder and death penalty. He

said " I don't know how a person could ever get so bold as to kill someone. I

believe in the death penalty whole heartedly for such people. " I wanted to

die!!! Everyone who knew me just turned and looked at me, and I burst into

tears. What is WRONG with people? And they act like this, and then expect me

not to get upset?? I love Steve with all my heart, and the death penalty is

my worst fears now. I have nightmares about it all the time. How could

someone who calls himself a Christian want to see ANYBODY killed? I didn't

try to explain what really happened to them, I just left. I will never go

back. How can I ever heal if I can't even find peace in the house of God?

Guess it doesn't matter, because if God lets them execute Steve for

something that the pharmaceutical company and Steve's doctor did, I won't

care anymore. I will never even pray again. I'm sorry Im rattling on today,

but on top of everything else I'm dealing with, today would have been my

mother's birthday. She was killed in 1998 by a drunk driver. I wish I could

just go to sleep, and never wake up!

Love...Cheryl

>From: glitterari@...

>Reply-SSRI medications

>SSRI medications

>Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:00:49 EST

>

>Cherly: The theory behind bi-polar and SSRIs seems to be one that is

>repeated over and over again. Those of us who were catapulted into mania

>while on these drugs were assured that it was NOT the drugs at fault, but

>rather an underlying illness that was simply brought to the fore FROM these

>drugs. I had never had a manic episode in my life until Paxil, and for two

>full years after I took my last hit, I was on an emotional roller-coaster

>ride. And just how SHOULD you feel dealing with this mess? Of course you

>are going to be mercurial; it's normal. Should you have no highs and lows;

>be flatlined emotionally? It takes a very very very long time to equalize

>after you've taken these drugs. And if you are going through withdrawals

>during this period, well, there is no way you are going to have normal

>emotions.

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[Guest guest]

HI Glitter. Paxil is what I was on too. That, AND xanax. I got off of Paxil

two months ago, and xanax just recently. I AM having withdrawals (at least I

think so). I ride that roller coaster every day of my life. I just wish they

would stop the ride, and let me off. I'm also having pain in my lower back

and kidney areas. Is that normal for withdrawals?

I don't know HOW I'm supposed to feel. I am under SO much stress, and in so

much pain. But it seems like I catch hell no matter WHAT I do. When I'm all

broken up and look bad, people say I'm crazy now and shouldn't have my kids.

Other times, when I DO dress up and fix my makeup and hair,the same people

say " look at her...this isnt bothering her one bit, she MUST have had

something to do with it. " I can't win no matter what I do. Everyone around

me tells me to " snap out of it " when I'm upset. I wish they could understand

that I CAN " T. It's not something I'm doing by choice. I'm in tremendous

emotional pain, but they can't seem to understand it. People are so cold now

days. And yes, they all expect me to be on a flatline. Hell, I HATE this

mania I'm dealing with, but it is better than having no feelings at all,

right? I just wonder when it will ever stop. Do you know, I went back to my

old church yesterday, after three years, because it was the only church I

ever grew as a Christian in. I had called ahead of time to make sure it was

ok for me to go there after what happened. They said " sure! We have missed

you. And, don't worry, no one will say anything to upset you, just welcome

you back with open arms. " Well, during the sermon, the pastor started

preaching about Jesus' trial, and how the people wanted him crucifeid, etc.

THEN, somehow, he got off onto the subject of murder and death penalty. He

said " I don't know how a person could ever get so bold as to kill someone. I

believe in the death penalty whole heartedly for such people. " I wanted to

die!!! Everyone who knew me just turned and looked at me, and I burst into

tears. What is WRONG with people? And they act like this, and then expect me

not to get upset?? I love Steve with all my heart, and the death penalty is

my worst fears now. I have nightmares about it all the time. How could

someone who calls himself a Christian want to see ANYBODY killed? I didn't

try to explain what really happened to them, I just left. I will never go

back. How can I ever heal if I can't even find peace in the house of God?

Guess it doesn't matter, because if God lets them execute Steve for

something that the pharmaceutical company and Steve's doctor did, I won't

care anymore. I will never even pray again. I'm sorry Im rattling on today,

but on top of everything else I'm dealing with, today would have been my

mother's birthday. She was killed in 1998 by a drunk driver. I wish I could

just go to sleep, and never wake up!

Love...Cheryl

>From: glitterari@...

>Reply-SSRI medications

>SSRI medications

>Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:00:49 EST

>

>Cherly: The theory behind bi-polar and SSRIs seems to be one that is

>repeated over and over again. Those of us who were catapulted into mania

>while on these drugs were assured that it was NOT the drugs at fault, but

>rather an underlying illness that was simply brought to the fore FROM these

>drugs. I had never had a manic episode in my life until Paxil, and for two

>full years after I took my last hit, I was on an emotional roller-coaster

>ride. And just how SHOULD you feel dealing with this mess? Of course you

>are going to be mercurial; it's normal. Should you have no highs and lows;

>be flatlined emotionally? It takes a very very very long time to equalize

>after you've taken these drugs. And if you are going through withdrawals

>during this period, well, there is no way you are going to have normal

>emotions.

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Hi . I'm just very confused. I KNOW that my stress is what's

causing me to be so irratic in my feelings. It just keeps getting worse

though. I never had mania or panic attacks until I got on Paxil and Xanax.

It is even worse now that I'm off of it. Steve's trial is getting very

close. Maybe that's why I'm getting worse, I don't know, but I'm scared. I

have thoughts I shouldn't have.(suicide) I WANT to tell my counselor, but

then again, I don't want to be locked up, and FORCED to take these drugs

again.. Not EVER. I won't kill myself, it's just that I do think about how

much easier it would be for me. I wouldn't have to feel this grief anymore.

But, I know that would just devastate my kids, so, Im stuck. Im glad you

don't think I'm bi-polar, but what else could this be? I'm happy one minute,

wanting to die the next.. Love, Cheryl

>From: " Creel " <ccreel@...>

>Reply-SSRI medications

><SSRI medications >

>Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:13:14 -0500

>

>Dear Cheryl,

>

>

> You said:

>

><<Hi all. I just have one question for now. Can SSRIs and benzos make a

>person bi-polar? I'm not sure if it the stress, or if I have become

>bi-polar. I know the symptoms, because my mom was bi-polar. I have noticed

>things in myself since getting off the drugs that I don't like. Like, the

>other day, when I posted about suing Wyeth, I was extremely high on life.

>And then for no reason, a few hours later, I was crying uncontrollably. I

>had hit bottom again. It is happening to me quite frequently. I was not

>like

>this before I took the drugs. But, then again, I wasn't under near as much

>stress, either. What do you guys and gals think? Which one could it be?>>

>

>

> First, yes, SSRIs can mimic bipolar disorder; however, I'd be

>hard-pressed

>to diagnose a person as having a bipolar disorder who is involved in a

>lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company, is reminded of it by writing

>about

>it,

>then has a " grief reaction " . You have a number of reasons to be feeling

>grief.

>

>

>ly, " bipolar disorder " is a disorder that is not psychiatric, but

>metabolic,

>and is NOT healed by neuroleptic drugs but can be healed by giving the

>body what it needs from substances that are compatible and native to the

>body.

>

>

> Having said that, it is fully possible to be experiencing the syndrome

>of SSRI discontinuation even years after stopping the drug. Stress or

>illness

>will re-trigger this syndrome when you feel you've gotten past it.

>

>

> It may help to take a look at some of the websites again.

>

>

> http://www.prozactruth.com

>

>http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com

>

>http://www.drugawareness.org

>

>http://www.evildrugs.com

>

>http://www.breggin.com

>

>http://www.pssg.org

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi . I'm just very confused. I KNOW that my stress is what's

causing me to be so irratic in my feelings. It just keeps getting worse

though. I never had mania or panic attacks until I got on Paxil and Xanax.

It is even worse now that I'm off of it. Steve's trial is getting very

close. Maybe that's why I'm getting worse, I don't know, but I'm scared. I

have thoughts I shouldn't have.(suicide) I WANT to tell my counselor, but

then again, I don't want to be locked up, and FORCED to take these drugs

again.. Not EVER. I won't kill myself, it's just that I do think about how

much easier it would be for me. I wouldn't have to feel this grief anymore.

But, I know that would just devastate my kids, so, Im stuck. Im glad you

don't think I'm bi-polar, but what else could this be? I'm happy one minute,

wanting to die the next.. Love, Cheryl

>From: " Creel " <ccreel@...>

>Reply-SSRI medications

><SSRI medications >

>Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:13:14 -0500

>

>Dear Cheryl,

>

>

> You said:

>

><<Hi all. I just have one question for now. Can SSRIs and benzos make a

>person bi-polar? I'm not sure if it the stress, or if I have become

>bi-polar. I know the symptoms, because my mom was bi-polar. I have noticed

>things in myself since getting off the drugs that I don't like. Like, the

>other day, when I posted about suing Wyeth, I was extremely high on life.

>And then for no reason, a few hours later, I was crying uncontrollably. I

>had hit bottom again. It is happening to me quite frequently. I was not

>like

>this before I took the drugs. But, then again, I wasn't under near as much

>stress, either. What do you guys and gals think? Which one could it be?>>

>

>

> First, yes, SSRIs can mimic bipolar disorder; however, I'd be

>hard-pressed

>to diagnose a person as having a bipolar disorder who is involved in a

>lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company, is reminded of it by writing

>about

>it,

>then has a " grief reaction " . You have a number of reasons to be feeling

>grief.

>

>

>ly, " bipolar disorder " is a disorder that is not psychiatric, but

>metabolic,

>and is NOT healed by neuroleptic drugs but can be healed by giving the

>body what it needs from substances that are compatible and native to the

>body.

>

>

> Having said that, it is fully possible to be experiencing the syndrome

>of SSRI discontinuation even years after stopping the drug. Stress or

>illness

>will re-trigger this syndrome when you feel you've gotten past it.

>

>

> It may help to take a look at some of the websites again.

>

>

> http://www.prozactruth.com

>

>http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com

>

>http://www.drugawareness.org

>

>http://www.evildrugs.com

>

>http://www.breggin.com

>

>http://www.pssg.org

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi . I'm just very confused. I KNOW that my stress is what's

causing me to be so irratic in my feelings. It just keeps getting worse

though. I never had mania or panic attacks until I got on Paxil and Xanax.

It is even worse now that I'm off of it. Steve's trial is getting very

close. Maybe that's why I'm getting worse, I don't know, but I'm scared. I

have thoughts I shouldn't have.(suicide) I WANT to tell my counselor, but

then again, I don't want to be locked up, and FORCED to take these drugs

again.. Not EVER. I won't kill myself, it's just that I do think about how

much easier it would be for me. I wouldn't have to feel this grief anymore.

But, I know that would just devastate my kids, so, Im stuck. Im glad you

don't think I'm bi-polar, but what else could this be? I'm happy one minute,

wanting to die the next.. Love, Cheryl

>From: " Creel " <ccreel@...>

>Reply-SSRI medications

><SSRI medications >

>Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:13:14 -0500

>

>Dear Cheryl,

>

>

> You said:

>

><<Hi all. I just have one question for now. Can SSRIs and benzos make a

>person bi-polar? I'm not sure if it the stress, or if I have become

>bi-polar. I know the symptoms, because my mom was bi-polar. I have noticed

>things in myself since getting off the drugs that I don't like. Like, the

>other day, when I posted about suing Wyeth, I was extremely high on life.

>And then for no reason, a few hours later, I was crying uncontrollably. I

>had hit bottom again. It is happening to me quite frequently. I was not

>like

>this before I took the drugs. But, then again, I wasn't under near as much

>stress, either. What do you guys and gals think? Which one could it be?>>

>

>

> First, yes, SSRIs can mimic bipolar disorder; however, I'd be

>hard-pressed

>to diagnose a person as having a bipolar disorder who is involved in a

>lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company, is reminded of it by writing

>about

>it,

>then has a " grief reaction " . You have a number of reasons to be feeling

>grief.

>

>

>ly, " bipolar disorder " is a disorder that is not psychiatric, but

>metabolic,

>and is NOT healed by neuroleptic drugs but can be healed by giving the

>body what it needs from substances that are compatible and native to the

>body.

>

>

> Having said that, it is fully possible to be experiencing the syndrome

>of SSRI discontinuation even years after stopping the drug. Stress or

>illness

>will re-trigger this syndrome when you feel you've gotten past it.

>

>

> It may help to take a look at some of the websites again.

>

>

> http://www.prozactruth.com

>

>http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com

>

>http://www.drugawareness.org

>

>http://www.evildrugs.com

>

>http://www.breggin.com

>

>http://www.pssg.org

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi . I'm just very confused. I KNOW that my stress is what's

causing me to be so irratic in my feelings. It just keeps getting worse

though. I never had mania or panic attacks until I got on Paxil and Xanax.

It is even worse now that I'm off of it. Steve's trial is getting very

close. Maybe that's why I'm getting worse, I don't know, but I'm scared. I

have thoughts I shouldn't have.(suicide) I WANT to tell my counselor, but

then again, I don't want to be locked up, and FORCED to take these drugs

again.. Not EVER. I won't kill myself, it's just that I do think about how

much easier it would be for me. I wouldn't have to feel this grief anymore.

But, I know that would just devastate my kids, so, Im stuck. Im glad you

don't think I'm bi-polar, but what else could this be? I'm happy one minute,

wanting to die the next.. Love, Cheryl

>From: " Creel " <ccreel@...>

>Reply-SSRI medications

><SSRI medications >

>Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:13:14 -0500

>

>Dear Cheryl,

>

>

> You said:

>

><<Hi all. I just have one question for now. Can SSRIs and benzos make a

>person bi-polar? I'm not sure if it the stress, or if I have become

>bi-polar. I know the symptoms, because my mom was bi-polar. I have noticed

>things in myself since getting off the drugs that I don't like. Like, the

>other day, when I posted about suing Wyeth, I was extremely high on life.

>And then for no reason, a few hours later, I was crying uncontrollably. I

>had hit bottom again. It is happening to me quite frequently. I was not

>like

>this before I took the drugs. But, then again, I wasn't under near as much

>stress, either. What do you guys and gals think? Which one could it be?>>

>

>

> First, yes, SSRIs can mimic bipolar disorder; however, I'd be

>hard-pressed

>to diagnose a person as having a bipolar disorder who is involved in a

>lawsuit against a pharmaceutical company, is reminded of it by writing

>about

>it,

>then has a " grief reaction " . You have a number of reasons to be feeling

>grief.

>

>

>ly, " bipolar disorder " is a disorder that is not psychiatric, but

>metabolic,

>and is NOT healed by neuroleptic drugs but can be healed by giving the

>body what it needs from substances that are compatible and native to the

>body.

>

>

> Having said that, it is fully possible to be experiencing the syndrome

>of SSRI discontinuation even years after stopping the drug. Stress or

>illness

>will re-trigger this syndrome when you feel you've gotten past it.

>

>

> It may help to take a look at some of the websites again.

>

>

> http://www.prozactruth.com

>

>http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com

>

>http://www.drugawareness.org

>

>http://www.evildrugs.com

>

>http://www.breggin.com

>

>http://www.pssg.org

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Cheryl,

God was not in the church that day. It's not your fault. I am so

sorry that the world is being so cruel to you. I wish there is

something I could say to make it better.

> HI Glitter. Paxil is what I was on too. That, AND xanax. I got off

of Paxil

> two months ago, and xanax just recently. I AM having withdrawals

(at least I

> think so). I ride that roller coaster every day of my life. I just

wish they

> would stop the ride, and let me off. I'm also having pain in my

lower back

> and kidney areas. Is that normal for withdrawals?

> I don't know HOW I'm supposed to feel. I am under SO much stress,

and in so

> much pain. But it seems like I catch hell no matter WHAT I do. When

I'm all

> broken up and look bad, people say I'm crazy now and shouldn't have

my kids.

> Other times, when I DO dress up and fix my makeup and hair,the same

people

> say " look at her...this isnt bothering her one bit, she MUST have

had

> something to do with it. " I can't win no matter what I do. Everyone

around

> me tells me to " snap out of it " when I'm upset. I wish they could

understand

> that I CAN " T. It's not something I'm doing by choice. I'm in

tremendous

> emotional pain, but they can't seem to understand it. People are so

cold now

> days. And yes, they all expect me to be on a flatline. Hell, I HATE

this

> mania I'm dealing with, but it is better than having no feelings at

all,

> right? I just wonder when it will ever stop. Do you know, I went

back to my

> old church yesterday, after three years, because it was the only

church I

> ever grew as a Christian in. I had called ahead of time to make

sure it was

> ok for me to go there after what happened. They said " sure! We have

missed

> you. And, don't worry, no one will say anything to upset you, just

welcome

> you back with open arms. " Well, during the sermon, the pastor

started

> preaching about Jesus' trial, and how the people wanted him

crucifeid, etc.

> THEN, somehow, he got off onto the subject of murder and death

penalty. He

> said " I don't know how a person could ever get so bold as to kill

someone. I

> believe in the death penalty whole heartedly for such people. " I

wanted to

> die!!! Everyone who knew me just turned and looked at me, and I

burst into

> tears. What is WRONG with people? And they act like this, and then

expect me

> not to get upset?? I love Steve with all my heart, and the death

penalty is

> my worst fears now. I have nightmares about it all the time. How

could

> someone who calls himself a Christian want to see ANYBODY killed? I

didn't

> try to explain what really happened to them, I just left. I will

never go

> back. How can I ever heal if I can't even find peace in the house

of God?

> Guess it doesn't matter, because if God lets them execute Steve for

> something that the pharmaceutical company and Steve's doctor did, I

won't

> care anymore. I will never even pray again. I'm sorry Im rattling

on today,

> but on top of everything else I'm dealing with, today would have

been my

> mother's birthday. She was killed in 1998 by a drunk driver. I wish

I could

> just go to sleep, and never wake up!

> Love...Cheryl

> >From: glitterari@a...

> >Reply-SSRI medications@y...

> >SSRI medications@y...

> >Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

> >Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:00:49 EST

> >

> >Cherly: The theory behind bi-polar and SSRIs seems to be one that

is

> >repeated over and over again. Those of us who were catapulted

into mania

> >while on these drugs were assured that it was NOT the drugs at

fault, but

> >rather an underlying illness that was simply brought to the fore

FROM these

> >drugs. I had never had a manic episode in my life until Paxil,

and for two

> >full years after I took my last hit, I was on an emotional roller-

coaster

> >ride. And just how SHOULD you feel dealing with this mess? Of

course you

> >are going to be mercurial; it's normal. Should you have no highs

and lows;

> >be flatlined emotionally? It takes a very very very long time to

equalize

> >after you've taken these drugs. And if you are going through

withdrawals

> >during this period, well, there is no way you are going to have

normal

> >emotions.

>

>

>

>

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Dear Cheryl,

God was not in the church that day. It's not your fault. I am so

sorry that the world is being so cruel to you. I wish there is

something I could say to make it better.

> HI Glitter. Paxil is what I was on too. That, AND xanax. I got off

of Paxil

> two months ago, and xanax just recently. I AM having withdrawals

(at least I

> think so). I ride that roller coaster every day of my life. I just

wish they

> would stop the ride, and let me off. I'm also having pain in my

lower back

> and kidney areas. Is that normal for withdrawals?

> I don't know HOW I'm supposed to feel. I am under SO much stress,

and in so

> much pain. But it seems like I catch hell no matter WHAT I do. When

I'm all

> broken up and look bad, people say I'm crazy now and shouldn't have

my kids.

> Other times, when I DO dress up and fix my makeup and hair,the same

people

> say " look at her...this isnt bothering her one bit, she MUST have

had

> something to do with it. " I can't win no matter what I do. Everyone

around

> me tells me to " snap out of it " when I'm upset. I wish they could

understand

> that I CAN " T. It's not something I'm doing by choice. I'm in

tremendous

> emotional pain, but they can't seem to understand it. People are so

cold now

> days. And yes, they all expect me to be on a flatline. Hell, I HATE

this

> mania I'm dealing with, but it is better than having no feelings at

all,

> right? I just wonder when it will ever stop. Do you know, I went

back to my

> old church yesterday, after three years, because it was the only

church I

> ever grew as a Christian in. I had called ahead of time to make

sure it was

> ok for me to go there after what happened. They said " sure! We have

missed

> you. And, don't worry, no one will say anything to upset you, just

welcome

> you back with open arms. " Well, during the sermon, the pastor

started

> preaching about Jesus' trial, and how the people wanted him

crucifeid, etc.

> THEN, somehow, he got off onto the subject of murder and death

penalty. He

> said " I don't know how a person could ever get so bold as to kill

someone. I

> believe in the death penalty whole heartedly for such people. " I

wanted to

> die!!! Everyone who knew me just turned and looked at me, and I

burst into

> tears. What is WRONG with people? And they act like this, and then

expect me

> not to get upset?? I love Steve with all my heart, and the death

penalty is

> my worst fears now. I have nightmares about it all the time. How

could

> someone who calls himself a Christian want to see ANYBODY killed? I

didn't

> try to explain what really happened to them, I just left. I will

never go

> back. How can I ever heal if I can't even find peace in the house

of God?

> Guess it doesn't matter, because if God lets them execute Steve for

> something that the pharmaceutical company and Steve's doctor did, I

won't

> care anymore. I will never even pray again. I'm sorry Im rattling

on today,

> but on top of everything else I'm dealing with, today would have

been my

> mother's birthday. She was killed in 1998 by a drunk driver. I wish

I could

> just go to sleep, and never wake up!

> Love...Cheryl

> >From: glitterari@a...

> >Reply-SSRI medications@y...

> >SSRI medications@y...

> >Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

> >Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:00:49 EST

> >

> >Cherly: The theory behind bi-polar and SSRIs seems to be one that

is

> >repeated over and over again. Those of us who were catapulted

into mania

> >while on these drugs were assured that it was NOT the drugs at

fault, but

> >rather an underlying illness that was simply brought to the fore

FROM these

> >drugs. I had never had a manic episode in my life until Paxil,

and for two

> >full years after I took my last hit, I was on an emotional roller-

coaster

> >ride. And just how SHOULD you feel dealing with this mess? Of

course you

> >are going to be mercurial; it's normal. Should you have no highs

and lows;

> >be flatlined emotionally? It takes a very very very long time to

equalize

> >after you've taken these drugs. And if you are going through

withdrawals

> >during this period, well, there is no way you are going to have

normal

> >emotions.

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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Dear Cheryl,

You said:

<<I'm just very confused. I KNOW that my stress is what's

causing me to be so irratic in my feelings. It just keeps getting worse

though. I never had mania or panic attacks until I got on Paxil and Xanax.

It is even worse now that I'm off of it. Steve's trial is getting very

close. Maybe that's why I'm getting worse, I don't know, but I'm scared. I

have thoughts I shouldn't have.(suicide)

I WANT to tell my counselor, but then again, I don't want to be locked

up, and FORCED to take these drugs again.. Not EVER. I won't kill

myself, it's just that I do think about how much easier it would be for me.

I wouldn't have to feel this grief anymore. But, I know that would just

devastate my kids, so, Im stuck. Im glad you don't think I'm bi-polar, but

what else could this be? I'm happy one minute, wanting to die the next.. >>

** You can most assuredly attribute this to the withdrawal. Now

is the time to remember things like what you said above about your

kids. You need everything you can find to hold on to in order to

get through these feelings.

The good news is, as you sais, one moment you're happy, the next

moment you want to die. This means, hang on. The bad feelings

will change, and you'll get some breathing room again. Think about

what you want to teach your children by your example.

We are always here for you, Cheryl. Could you send me Steve's

address? I'll write to him, too.

I'd like to suggest something that some find soothing.

Go to www.loriarsenault.com Click on SONGS.

This is a friend of mine who writes and performs very

soothing music.

Thank you for being so open, Cheryl.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

Cheryl, i was watching the 6 pm news just now when they lit the huge

blue lights where the twin towers were... so sad, mademe shed a tear,

then I read about your Mom and Steve of course and then wham, the

church. Oh dear girl, God was not in that church, God is not a

minister, priest, or other clergy...he is not a building or

congregation........... he is inside our soul, in the fields and

trees, and in the animals..... don't worry about being alone, he is

with you..I do believe we as humans are here for a purpose and I will

believe there is something more.... don't loose your faith because of

any one idiot or church, they are nothing, God will not let you walk

your path alone....you have befriended many great people here and

their support and knowledge can help you. You are really only in the

throws of withdrawal, notice the mood swings these drugs cause, you

are not crazy, ill, or just nuts... it is the drugs....you go up and

down because the pattern of your former drug intake was based on the

clock right? So, if your brain has not healed yet, you are still in

need of the drugs, so you will feel bad. You will have highs and lows

till you yourself can produce or control the chemicals in your brain.

Just hang in, stay thinking and as busy as you can so you will not

think negative thoughts. Do anything, make a puzzle, anything just to

make you stay as calm as you can and watch your diet, hugs

> > HI Glitter. Paxil is what I was on too. That, AND xanax. I got

off

> of Paxil

> > two months ago, and xanax just recently. I AM having withdrawals

> (at least I

> > think so). I ride that roller coaster every day of my life. I

just

> wish they

> > would stop the ride, and let me off. I'm also having pain in my

> lower back

> > and kidney areas. Is that normal for withdrawals?

> > I don't know HOW I'm supposed to feel. I am under SO much stress,

> and in so

> > much pain. But it seems like I catch hell no matter WHAT I do.

When

> I'm all

> > broken up and look bad, people say I'm crazy now and shouldn't

have

> my kids.

> > Other times, when I DO dress up and fix my makeup and hair,the

same

> people

> > say " look at her...this isnt bothering her one bit, she MUST have

> had

> > something to do with it. " I can't win no matter what I do.

Everyone

> around

> > me tells me to " snap out of it " when I'm upset. I wish they could

> understand

> > that I CAN " T. It's not something I'm doing by choice. I'm in

> tremendous

> > emotional pain, but they can't seem to understand it. People are

so

> cold now

> > days. And yes, they all expect me to be on a flatline. Hell, I

HATE

> this

> > mania I'm dealing with, but it is better than having no feelings

at

> all,

> > right? I just wonder when it will ever stop. Do you know, I went

> back to my

> > old church yesterday, after three years, because it was the only

> church I

> > ever grew as a Christian in. I had called ahead of time to make

> sure it was

> > ok for me to go there after what happened. They said " sure! We

have

> missed

> > you. And, don't worry, no one will say anything to upset you,

just

> welcome

> > you back with open arms. " Well, during the sermon, the pastor

> started

> > preaching about Jesus' trial, and how the people wanted him

> crucifeid, etc.

> > THEN, somehow, he got off onto the subject of murder and death

> penalty. He

> > said " I don't know how a person could ever get so bold as to kill

> someone. I

> > believe in the death penalty whole heartedly for such people. " I

> wanted to

> > die!!! Everyone who knew me just turned and looked at me, and I

> burst into

> > tears. What is WRONG with people? And they act like this, and

then

> expect me

> > not to get upset?? I love Steve with all my heart, and the death

> penalty is

> > my worst fears now. I have nightmares about it all the time. How

> could

> > someone who calls himself a Christian want to see ANYBODY killed?

I

> didn't

> > try to explain what really happened to them, I just left. I will

> never go

> > back. How can I ever heal if I can't even find peace in the house

> of God?

> > Guess it doesn't matter, because if God lets them execute Steve

for

> > something that the pharmaceutical company and Steve's doctor did,

I

> won't

> > care anymore. I will never even pray again. I'm sorry Im rattling

> on today,

> > but on top of everything else I'm dealing with, today would have

> been my

> > mother's birthday. She was killed in 1998 by a drunk driver. I

wish

> I could

> > just go to sleep, and never wake up!

> > Love...Cheryl

> > >From: glitterari@a...

> > >Reply-SSRI medications@y...

> > >SSRI medications@y...

> > >Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

> > >Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:00:49 EST

> > >

> > >Cherly: The theory behind bi-polar and SSRIs seems to be one

that

> is

> > >repeated over and over again. Those of us who were catapulted

> into mania

> > >while on these drugs were assured that it was NOT the drugs at

> fault, but

> > >rather an underlying illness that was simply brought to the fore

> FROM these

> > >drugs. I had never had a manic episode in my life until Paxil,

> and for two

> > >full years after I took my last hit, I was on an emotional

roller-

> coaster

> > >ride. And just how SHOULD you feel dealing with this mess? Of

> course you

> > >are going to be mercurial; it's normal. Should you have no

highs

> and lows;

> > >be flatlined emotionally? It takes a very very very long time

to

> equalize

> > >after you've taken these drugs. And if you are going through

> withdrawals

> > >during this period, well, there is no way you are going to have

> normal

> > >emotions.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Cheryl, i was watching the 6 pm news just now when they lit the huge

blue lights where the twin towers were... so sad, mademe shed a tear,

then I read about your Mom and Steve of course and then wham, the

church. Oh dear girl, God was not in that church, God is not a

minister, priest, or other clergy...he is not a building or

congregation........... he is inside our soul, in the fields and

trees, and in the animals..... don't worry about being alone, he is

with you..I do believe we as humans are here for a purpose and I will

believe there is something more.... don't loose your faith because of

any one idiot or church, they are nothing, God will not let you walk

your path alone....you have befriended many great people here and

their support and knowledge can help you. You are really only in the

throws of withdrawal, notice the mood swings these drugs cause, you

are not crazy, ill, or just nuts... it is the drugs....you go up and

down because the pattern of your former drug intake was based on the

clock right? So, if your brain has not healed yet, you are still in

need of the drugs, so you will feel bad. You will have highs and lows

till you yourself can produce or control the chemicals in your brain.

Just hang in, stay thinking and as busy as you can so you will not

think negative thoughts. Do anything, make a puzzle, anything just to

make you stay as calm as you can and watch your diet, hugs

> > HI Glitter. Paxil is what I was on too. That, AND xanax. I got

off

> of Paxil

> > two months ago, and xanax just recently. I AM having withdrawals

> (at least I

> > think so). I ride that roller coaster every day of my life. I

just

> wish they

> > would stop the ride, and let me off. I'm also having pain in my

> lower back

> > and kidney areas. Is that normal for withdrawals?

> > I don't know HOW I'm supposed to feel. I am under SO much stress,

> and in so

> > much pain. But it seems like I catch hell no matter WHAT I do.

When

> I'm all

> > broken up and look bad, people say I'm crazy now and shouldn't

have

> my kids.

> > Other times, when I DO dress up and fix my makeup and hair,the

same

> people

> > say " look at her...this isnt bothering her one bit, she MUST have

> had

> > something to do with it. " I can't win no matter what I do.

Everyone

> around

> > me tells me to " snap out of it " when I'm upset. I wish they could

> understand

> > that I CAN " T. It's not something I'm doing by choice. I'm in

> tremendous

> > emotional pain, but they can't seem to understand it. People are

so

> cold now

> > days. And yes, they all expect me to be on a flatline. Hell, I

HATE

> this

> > mania I'm dealing with, but it is better than having no feelings

at

> all,

> > right? I just wonder when it will ever stop. Do you know, I went

> back to my

> > old church yesterday, after three years, because it was the only

> church I

> > ever grew as a Christian in. I had called ahead of time to make

> sure it was

> > ok for me to go there after what happened. They said " sure! We

have

> missed

> > you. And, don't worry, no one will say anything to upset you,

just

> welcome

> > you back with open arms. " Well, during the sermon, the pastor

> started

> > preaching about Jesus' trial, and how the people wanted him

> crucifeid, etc.

> > THEN, somehow, he got off onto the subject of murder and death

> penalty. He

> > said " I don't know how a person could ever get so bold as to kill

> someone. I

> > believe in the death penalty whole heartedly for such people. " I

> wanted to

> > die!!! Everyone who knew me just turned and looked at me, and I

> burst into

> > tears. What is WRONG with people? And they act like this, and

then

> expect me

> > not to get upset?? I love Steve with all my heart, and the death

> penalty is

> > my worst fears now. I have nightmares about it all the time. How

> could

> > someone who calls himself a Christian want to see ANYBODY killed?

I

> didn't

> > try to explain what really happened to them, I just left. I will

> never go

> > back. How can I ever heal if I can't even find peace in the house

> of God?

> > Guess it doesn't matter, because if God lets them execute Steve

for

> > something that the pharmaceutical company and Steve's doctor did,

I

> won't

> > care anymore. I will never even pray again. I'm sorry Im rattling

> on today,

> > but on top of everything else I'm dealing with, today would have

> been my

> > mother's birthday. She was killed in 1998 by a drunk driver. I

wish

> I could

> > just go to sleep, and never wake up!

> > Love...Cheryl

> > >From: glitterari@a...

> > >Reply-SSRI medications@y...

> > >SSRI medications@y...

> > >Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

> > >Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:00:49 EST

> > >

> > >Cherly: The theory behind bi-polar and SSRIs seems to be one

that

> is

> > >repeated over and over again. Those of us who were catapulted

> into mania

> > >while on these drugs were assured that it was NOT the drugs at

> fault, but

> > >rather an underlying illness that was simply brought to the fore

> FROM these

> > >drugs. I had never had a manic episode in my life until Paxil,

> and for two

> > >full years after I took my last hit, I was on an emotional

roller-

> coaster

> > >ride. And just how SHOULD you feel dealing with this mess? Of

> course you

> > >are going to be mercurial; it's normal. Should you have no

highs

> and lows;

> > >be flatlined emotionally? It takes a very very very long time

to

> equalize

> > >after you've taken these drugs. And if you are going through

> withdrawals

> > >during this period, well, there is no way you are going to have

> normal

> > >emotions.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

> > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:

> > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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ty . You can write Steve and send it to my address, and I'll mail

it to him. I'm hoping to get a lot of letters for him, and I can send them

all in one big envelope. Hopefully, it will keep him busy for a while LOL.

my address is 204 Westover Circle, Palatka Fla, 32177.

Thank you again for your encouragement. I need it. I will hang on. I have no

choice. I'm only afraid of what will happen to me if they sentence him to

life in prison, or death. I'm not sure I can take that. All I can do is pray

right now. Love, Cheryl

>From: " Creel " <ccreel@...>

>Reply-SSRI medications

><SSRI medications >

>Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:41:25 -0500

>

>Dear Cheryl,

>

>

> You said:

>

>

><<I'm just very confused. I KNOW that my stress is what's

>causing me to be so irratic in my feelings. It just keeps getting worse

>though. I never had mania or panic attacks until I got on Paxil and Xanax.

>It is even worse now that I'm off of it. Steve's trial is getting very

>close. Maybe that's why I'm getting worse, I don't know, but I'm scared. I

>have thoughts I shouldn't have.(suicide)

>

>I WANT to tell my counselor, but then again, I don't want to be locked

>up, and FORCED to take these drugs again.. Not EVER. I won't kill

>myself, it's just that I do think about how much easier it would be for me.

>I wouldn't have to feel this grief anymore. But, I know that would just

>devastate my kids, so, Im stuck. Im glad you don't think I'm bi-polar, but

>what else could this be? I'm happy one minute, wanting to die the next.. >>

>

>

> ** You can most assuredly attribute this to the withdrawal. Now

>is the time to remember things like what you said above about your

>kids. You need everything you can find to hold on to in order to

>get through these feelings.

>

> The good news is, as you sais, one moment you're happy, the next

>moment you want to die. This means, hang on. The bad feelings

>will change, and you'll get some breathing room again. Think about

>what you want to teach your children by your example.

>

> We are always here for you, Cheryl. Could you send me Steve's

>address? I'll write to him, too.

>

> I'd like to suggest something that some find soothing.

>Go to www.loriarsenault.com Click on SONGS.

>This is a friend of mine who writes and performs very

>soothing music.

>

>

> Thank you for being so open, Cheryl.

>

>Regards,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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ty . You can write Steve and send it to my address, and I'll mail

it to him. I'm hoping to get a lot of letters for him, and I can send them

all in one big envelope. Hopefully, it will keep him busy for a while LOL.

my address is 204 Westover Circle, Palatka Fla, 32177.

Thank you again for your encouragement. I need it. I will hang on. I have no

choice. I'm only afraid of what will happen to me if they sentence him to

life in prison, or death. I'm not sure I can take that. All I can do is pray

right now. Love, Cheryl

>From: " Creel " <ccreel@...>

>Reply-SSRI medications

><SSRI medications >

>Subject: Re: Can SSRIS make you bi-polar?

>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:41:25 -0500

>

>Dear Cheryl,

>

>

> You said:

>

>

><<I'm just very confused. I KNOW that my stress is what's

>causing me to be so irratic in my feelings. It just keeps getting worse

>though. I never had mania or panic attacks until I got on Paxil and Xanax.

>It is even worse now that I'm off of it. Steve's trial is getting very

>close. Maybe that's why I'm getting worse, I don't know, but I'm scared. I

>have thoughts I shouldn't have.(suicide)

>

>I WANT to tell my counselor, but then again, I don't want to be locked

>up, and FORCED to take these drugs again.. Not EVER. I won't kill

>myself, it's just that I do think about how much easier it would be for me.

>I wouldn't have to feel this grief anymore. But, I know that would just

>devastate my kids, so, Im stuck. Im glad you don't think I'm bi-polar, but

>what else could this be? I'm happy one minute, wanting to die the next.. >>

>

>

> ** You can most assuredly attribute this to the withdrawal. Now

>is the time to remember things like what you said above about your

>kids. You need everything you can find to hold on to in order to

>get through these feelings.

>

> The good news is, as you sais, one moment you're happy, the next

>moment you want to die. This means, hang on. The bad feelings

>will change, and you'll get some breathing room again. Think about

>what you want to teach your children by your example.

>

> We are always here for you, Cheryl. Could you send me Steve's

>address? I'll write to him, too.

>

> I'd like to suggest something that some find soothing.

>Go to www.loriarsenault.com Click on SONGS.

>This is a friend of mine who writes and performs very

>soothing music.

>

>

> Thank you for being so open, Cheryl.

>

>Regards,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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