Guest guest Posted August 16, 2001 Report Share Posted August 16, 2001 Hi , Do you have morning stiffness as well, or is it pain only? I used to have joint pain slightly in my hands, but every time I did, I just fasted and fasting took away all my joint pain completely. It has been gone for several years now. I have done probably a dozen fasts over the last 3 years, of various durations and types. Longest was a 14 day juice fast, next longest was a 10 day water only fast. I think the water only are pretty strenuous, although very beneficial for detoxing. These days I rarely go beyond 5 days water only, and will more than likely be doing the juice fasts. We have an inversion board in our home. My husband bought it originally to help with his back pain. It is one of those boards that you lay down on it, and then flip yourself upside down. He has since cured his back pain with diet, kidney cleanses and enemas, so he hasn't been using it much. However, I used it to help with my brain fog, and found that in the afternoon when I had felt my worst, it helped me to relax and clear my head, probably something to do with getting blood to the brain. In yoga, there are several postures that are inversion postures, and it is highly recommended that these be included in a person's yoga routine. One of them is the Headstand. My yoga book ( " The Sivananda Companion to Yoga " by The Sivananda Yoga Center) says this about it: " King of asanas, the Headstand or Sirshasana is one of the most powerfully beneficial postures for both body and mind. By reversing the normal effects of gravity, it rests the heart, aids your circulation, and relieves pressure on the lower back. Practised regularly, it will help prevent back problems and improve memory, concentration, and the sensory faculties. Inverting the body also makes you breathe deeply, bringing a fresh supply of oxygen-rich blood to the brain--any slight breathing difficulty you experience at first will quickly pass. " So, you really don't have to get any contraptions or special equipment to do this. Just practice doing the headstand (make a tripod by clasping your hands together, space your elbows comfortably apart, and place the back of your head in your clasped hands on the floor. Slowly straighten your legs, raise your hips and finally bend your knees into your chest and lift your feet off the floor. Pause before straightening your legs fully.) You can just do it up against the wall if you have to. Another inversion posture is the Shoulderstand, and this is a great posture to help massage the thyroid: " The Shoulderstand invigorates and rejuvenates your whole body.....An ideal pick me up, it gives many of the same benefits as the Headstand, with the difference that inverting the body at right angles to the head stretches the neck and upper spine and, most important, stimulates the thyroid and parathyroid glands by pressing your chin into the base of your throat. The pose encourages deep abdominal breathing because it limits use of the top of your lungs. Initially this may feel constricting, but you will soon adapt as you relax into the pose. " To do this, you lay on your back on the floor, lift your hips off the floor and bring your legs up and over your head. Using your arms to support your back, push your back up and lift your legs higher into a vertical position. Press your chin into the base of your throat. Work your elbows closer together and your hands further toward your shoulders to straighten the torso. Of course, this is simplifying it a bit. There are breathing techniques involved, and meditative qualities that need to be addressed in proper yoga. I took a yoga class when I first became ill and it was wonderful. I would do it again in a heartbeat if I could find the time. But these poses are simple to do and may be beneficial. You might want to give it a try! Love, Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: <cjheer@...> < > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: Morning Pain > I am really coming a long way lately as far as my health goes and it > is great, I find that I am almost pain free all day of course I do > take some pain pills to help me, but in the morning is when I find > that my pain is at its peak. It is really strange and it seems to me > that it has something to do with toxins settling into my extremities > while I lay still that is doing it. Does anyone else have this am > thing doing on and do you have any theories, I find my feet and hands > are usually throbbing in the morning but once I get up and move > around it seems to go away and I am just wondering if it is like I > said, toxins settling in to my extremities. My husband mentioned > hanging on one of those things, can't think of what they are called > but you hang upside down and he said that it is good for your spleen > because when you are upside down it can dump toxins that get trapped > in there, now has anyone heard of this before? I am wondering if this > might be a good idea. Has anyone tried this type of thing? Well I > guess you need those bar things to hang from first...lol. > > Ok that is all from me for now. Hope everyone is doing good these days > > Love > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 No I don't think it is stiffness it is mostly just acheyness and it is really lately only in my hands and feet. i should probably try to do a juice fast, I just always seem to be so busy with other stuff and with kids and running around end up eating the wrong food. Anyhow the brain fog is so much better, so I guess this pain thing is my last major problem and while I have seen improvements it is still a big morning issue for me. I want so badly to do the yoga here but it is always the wrong time at the gym and usually on the days I am working, I am not sure I could do the headstand, maybe against a wall, ha ha, when my husband rubs my feet at night this helps allot, I notice if I get up and moveing early I am better off, if I lie around in bed the pain is worse, so the more active I am I guess the toxins don't build up in one spot as much as if I am laying or sitting around, this is why I think exercise is important, and believe me there are days I don't feel like it, but if I push myself I never regret it. Thanks In @y..., " Patty " <fdp@l...> wrote: > Hi , > Do you have morning stiffness as well, or is it pain only? I used to have > joint pain slightly in my hands, but every time I did, I just fasted and > fasting took away all my joint pain completely. It has been gone for several > years now. I have done probably a dozen fasts over the last 3 years, of > various durations and types. Longest was a 14 day juice fast, next longest > was a 10 day water only fast. I think the water only are pretty strenuous, > although very beneficial for detoxing. These days I rarely go beyond 5 days > water only, and will more than likely be doing the juice fasts. > > We have an inversion board in our home. My husband bought it originally to > help with his back pain. It is one of those boards that you lay down on it, > and then flip yourself upside down. He has since cured his back pain with > diet, kidney cleanses and enemas, so he hasn't been using it much. > > However, I used it to help with my brain fog, and found that in the > afternoon when I had felt my worst, it helped me to relax and clear my head, > probably something to do with getting blood to the brain. > > In yoga, there are several postures that are inversion postures, and it is > highly recommended that these be included in a person's yoga routine. One > of them is the Headstand. My yoga book ( " The Sivananda Companion to Yoga " > by The Sivananda Yoga Center) says this about it: > > " King of asanas, the Headstand or Sirshasana is one of the most powerfully > beneficial postures for both body and mind. By reversing the normal effects > of gravity, it rests the heart, aids your circulation, and relieves pressure > on the lower back. Practised regularly, it will help prevent back problems > and improve memory, concentration, and the sensory faculties. Inverting the > body also makes you breathe deeply, bringing a fresh supply of oxygen-rich > blood to the brain--any slight breathing difficulty you experience at first > will quickly pass. " > > So, you really don't have to get any contraptions or special equipment to do > this. Just practice doing the headstand (make a tripod by clasping your > hands together, space your elbows comfortably apart, and place the back of > your head in your clasped hands on the floor. Slowly straighten your legs, > raise your hips and finally bend your knees into your chest and lift your > feet off the floor. Pause before straightening your legs fully.) You can > just do it up against the wall if you have to. > > Another inversion posture is the Shoulderstand, and this is a great posture > to help massage the thyroid: > > " The Shoulderstand invigorates and rejuvenates your whole body.....An ideal > pick me up, it gives many of the same benefits as the Headstand, with the > difference that inverting the body at right angles to the head stretches the > neck and upper spine and, most important, stimulates the thyroid and > parathyroid glands by pressing your chin into the base of your throat. The > pose encourages deep abdominal breathing because it limits use of the top of > your lungs. Initially this may feel constricting, but you will soon adapt as > you relax into the pose. " > > To do this, you lay on your back on the floor, lift your hips off the floor > and bring your legs up and over your head. Using your arms to support your > back, push your back up and lift your legs higher into a vertical position. > Press your chin into the base of your throat. Work your elbows closer > together and your hands further toward your shoulders to straighten the > torso. > > Of course, this is simplifying it a bit. There are breathing techniques > involved, and meditative qualities that need to be addressed in proper yoga. > I took a yoga class when I first became ill and it was wonderful. I would > do it again in a heartbeat if I could find the time. But these poses are > simple to do and may be beneficial. You might want to give it a try! > Love, > Patty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <cjheer@i...> > < @y...> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 7:44 AM > Subject: Morning Pain > > > > I am really coming a long way lately as far as my health goes and it > > is great, I find that I am almost pain free all day of course I do > > take some pain pills to help me, but in the morning is when I find > > that my pain is at its peak. It is really strange and it seems to me > > that it has something to do with toxins settling into my extremities > > while I lay still that is doing it. Does anyone else have this am > > thing doing on and do you have any theories, I find my feet and hands > > are usually throbbing in the morning but once I get up and move > > around it seems to go away and I am just wondering if it is like I > > said, toxins settling in to my extremities. My husband mentioned > > hanging on one of those things, can't think of what they are called > > but you hang upside down and he said that it is good for your spleen > > because when you are upside down it can dump toxins that get trapped > > in there, now has anyone heard of this before? I am wondering if this > > might be a good idea. Has anyone tried this type of thing? Well I > > guess you need those bar things to hang from first...lol. > > > > Ok that is all from me for now. Hope everyone is doing good these days > > > > Love > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 ~~~~ Hi Girls~~~~ I still have morning pain and stiffness after being explanted in 1994. 2 pain meds, later Im able to walk as normal as I walk. So for me those symptoms have'nt changed since explant, and I was also reading some former post about the red neck symptom or sunlight sensitivity. I still am a Red Neck, and down my chest where my blouses are open. Strange! Ya know its not just morning stiffness with me. If I sit for more than an hour I have it also. My Theory when I first was diagnosed with M.S. was if I am able to keep moving and stay on my feet, then I won't be bed ridden. And I believe I have it... It DOES'NT HAVE ME! ~Good Health & Happiness~ God Bless Debe > Hi , > Do you have morning stiffness as well, or is it pain only? I used to have > joint pain slightly in my hands, but every time I did, I just fasted and > fasting took away all my joint pain completely. It has been gone for several > years now. I have done probably a dozen fasts over the last 3 years, of > various durations and types. Longest was a 14 day juice fast, next longest > was a 10 day water only fast. I think the water only are pretty strenuous, > although very beneficial for detoxing. These days I rarely go beyond 5 days > water only, and will more than likely be doing the juice fasts. > > We have an inversion board in our home. My husband bought it originally to > help with his back pain. It is one of those boards that you lay down on it, > and then flip yourself upside down. He has since cured his back pain with > diet, kidney cleanses and enemas, so he hasn't been using it much. > > However, I used it to help with my brain fog, and found that in the > afternoon when I had felt my worst, it helped me to relax and clear my head, > probably something to do with getting blood to the brain. > > In yoga, there are several postures that are inversion postures, and it is > highly recommended that these be included in a person's yoga routine. One > of them is the Headstand. My yoga book ( " The Sivananda Companion to Yoga " > by The Sivananda Yoga Center) says this about it: > > " King of asanas, the Headstand or Sirshasana is one of the most powerfully > beneficial postures for both body and mind. By reversing the normal effects > of gravity, it rests the heart, aids your circulation, and relieves pressure > on the lower back. Practised regularly, it will help prevent back problems > and improve memory, concentration, and the sensory faculties. Inverting the > body also makes you breathe deeply, bringing a fresh supply of oxygen-rich > blood to the brain--any slight breathing difficulty you experience at first > will quickly pass. " > > So, you really don't have to get any contraptions or special equipment to do > this. Just practice doing the headstand (make a tripod by clasping your > hands together, space your elbows comfortably apart, and place the back of > your head in your clasped hands on the floor. Slowly straighten your legs, > raise your hips and finally bend your knees into your chest and lift your > feet off the floor. Pause before straightening your legs fully.) You can > just do it up against the wall if you have to. > > Another inversion posture is the Shoulderstand, and this is a great posture > to help massage the thyroid: > > " The Shoulderstand invigorates and rejuvenates your whole body.....An ideal > pick me up, it gives many of the same benefits as the Headstand, with the > difference that inverting the body at right angles to the head stretches the > neck and upper spine and, most important, stimulates the thyroid and > parathyroid glands by pressing your chin into the base of your throat. The > pose encourages deep abdominal breathing because it limits use of the top of > your lungs. Initially this may feel constricting, but you will soon adapt as > you relax into the pose. " > > To do this, you lay on your back on the floor, lift your hips off the floor > and bring your legs up and over your head. Using your arms to support your > back, push your back up and lift your legs higher into a vertical position. > Press your chin into the base of your throat. Work your elbows closer > together and your hands further toward your shoulders to straighten the > torso. > > Of course, this is simplifying it a bit. There are breathing techniques > involved, and meditative qualities that need to be addressed in proper yoga. > I took a yoga class when I first became ill and it was wonderful. I would > do it again in a heartbeat if I could find the time. But these poses are > simple to do and may be beneficial. You might want to give it a try! > Love, > Patty > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <cjheer@i...> > < @y...> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 7:44 AM > Subject: Morning Pain > > > > I am really coming a long way lately as far as my health goes and it > > is great, I find that I am almost pain free all day of course I do > > take some pain pills to help me, but in the morning is when I find > > that my pain is at its peak. It is really strange and it seems to me > > that it has something to do with toxins settling into my extremities > > while I lay still that is doing it. Does anyone else have this am > > thing doing on and do you have any theories, I find my feet and hands > > are usually throbbing in the morning but once I get up and move > > around it seems to go away and I am just wondering if it is like I > > said, toxins settling in to my extremities. My husband mentioned > > hanging on one of those things, can't think of what they are called > > but you hang upside down and he said that it is good for your spleen > > because when you are upside down it can dump toxins that get trapped > > in there, now has anyone heard of this before? I am wondering if this > > might be a good idea. Has anyone tried this type of thing? Well I > > guess you need those bar things to hang from first...lol. > > > > Ok that is all from me for now. Hope everyone is doing good these days > > > > Love > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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