Re: Bush/Hitler connection

[Guest guest]

Yes, this is ALL true. War is big business and people like Bush (the father, grandfather) and their coven comprised of Harriman, Dulles and other such ilk could've cared less that the Jews were being slaughtered as long as their was money to be made on the war effort. Bush's support of the Nazis is nothing new. Study the history of the American Nazi Party and you'll see how very very close we came to having such an entity in our government back in the 30's and 40's. And guess what? Nothing has changed. The fact that Little Bush is now gearing up for war against Iraq is simply a continuation of how these people make big money and it's about defense contracts for their buds. These are evil people. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Guest guest]

Yes, this is ALL true. War is big business and people like Bush (the father, grandfather) and their coven comprised of Harriman, Dulles and other such ilk could've cared less that the Jews were being slaughtered as long as their was money to be made on the war effort. Bush's support of the Nazis is nothing new. Study the history of the American Nazi Party and you'll see how very very close we came to having such an entity in our government back in the 30's and 40's. And guess what? Nothing has changed. The fact that Little Bush is now gearing up for war against Iraq is simply a continuation of how these people make big money and it's about defense contracts for their buds. These are evil people. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/28/02 1:39:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

I am on SSD because of what these drugs have done! But it was filed under "depression"!! Guess I'll be one of them to be forced drugged??

That's me, too. I'm on SSd for PTSD caused by Paxil. But I have a running script of Paxil and a leftover script of Trazodone, so when I come up for a review in x-number of years, I will get these two scripts refilled and present them as PROOF that I am already medicated. This is the New World Order. Make no mistake about it. And the SSRIs are the drug of choice for the sheeple. Now I'm going to be sick.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/28/02 1:39:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

I am on SSD because of what these drugs have done! But it was filed under "depression"!! Guess I'll be one of them to be forced drugged??

That's me, too. I'm on SSd for PTSD caused by Paxil. But I have a running script of Paxil and a leftover script of Trazodone, so when I come up for a review in x-number of years, I will get these two scripts refilled and present them as PROOF that I am already medicated. This is the New World Order. Make no mistake about it. And the SSRIs are the drug of choice for the sheeple. Now I'm going to be sick.

[Guest guest]

Ok... I'm done,. I can't comprehend it all..........but it's HORRID! and with the new "forced drugging"law....... anyone who would defy what's to come....... can be forced to be drugged.

I was listening to a program on Sally Satel site, she mentions people who are on Social Security Disability, because of mental illness who do not take their meds. I am on SSD because of what these drugs have done! But it was filed under "depression"!! Guess I'll be one of them to be forced drugged??

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

Yes, this is ALL true. War is big business and people like Bush (the father, grandfather) and their coven comprised of Harriman, Dulles and other such ilk could've cared less that the Jews were being slaughtered as long as their was money to be made on the war effort. Bush's support of the Nazis is nothing new. Study the history of the American Nazi Party and you'll see how very very close we came to having such an entity in our government back in the 30's and 40's. And guess what? Nothing has changed. The fact that Little Bush is now gearing up for war against Iraq is simply a continuation of how these people make big money and it's about defense contracts for their buds. These are evil people. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Guest guest]

Ok... I'm done,. I can't comprehend it all..........but it's HORRID! and with the new "forced drugging"law....... anyone who would defy what's to come....... can be forced to be drugged.

I was listening to a program on Sally Satel site, she mentions people who are on Social Security Disability, because of mental illness who do not take their meds. I am on SSD because of what these drugs have done! But it was filed under "depression"!! Guess I'll be one of them to be forced drugged??

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

Yes, this is ALL true. War is big business and people like Bush (the father, grandfather) and their coven comprised of Harriman, Dulles and other such ilk could've cared less that the Jews were being slaughtered as long as their was money to be made on the war effort. Bush's support of the Nazis is nothing new. Study the history of the American Nazi Party and you'll see how very very close we came to having such an entity in our government back in the 30's and 40's. And guess what? Nothing has changed. The fact that Little Bush is now gearing up for war against Iraq is simply a continuation of how these people make big money and it's about defense contracts for their buds. These are evil people. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/28/02 10:13:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

does your doctor believe the paxil caused this?

No, he thinks I need to be taking Paxil. But I'm a plaintiff in the class action lawsuit against the makers of Paxil, and all my psych records were as a result of my withdrawal, so it's pretty obvious that THAT doctor, who couldn't prescribe meds, was aware of what Paxil did to me, and by the time I come up for review, the lawsuit will have made big news. And if I have to, I'll just get some scripts before the review.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/28/02 10:13:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

does your doctor believe the paxil caused this?

No, he thinks I need to be taking Paxil. But I'm a plaintiff in the class action lawsuit against the makers of Paxil, and all my psych records were as a result of my withdrawal, so it's pretty obvious that THAT doctor, who couldn't prescribe meds, was aware of what Paxil did to me, and by the time I come up for review, the lawsuit will have made big news. And if I have to, I'll just get some scripts before the review.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/28/02 10:13:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

does your doctor believe the paxil caused this?

No, he thinks I need to be taking Paxil. But I'm a plaintiff in the class action lawsuit against the makers of Paxil, and all my psych records were as a result of my withdrawal, so it's pretty obvious that THAT doctor, who couldn't prescribe meds, was aware of what Paxil did to me, and by the time I come up for review, the lawsuit will have made big news. And if I have to, I'll just get some scripts before the review.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/28/02 10:13:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

does your doctor believe the paxil caused this?

No, he thinks I need to be taking Paxil. But I'm a plaintiff in the class action lawsuit against the makers of Paxil, and all my psych records were as a result of my withdrawal, so it's pretty obvious that THAT doctor, who couldn't prescribe meds, was aware of what Paxil did to me, and by the time I come up for review, the lawsuit will have made big news. And if I have to, I'll just get some scripts before the review.

[Guest guest]

What are the doctors saying???? If they don't believe that Paxil can cause all sorts of ugly stuff then they aren't doing their homework. Have you told them about the lawsuits?

[Guest guest]

What are the doctors saying???? If they don't believe that Paxil can cause all sorts of ugly stuff then they aren't doing their homework. Have you told them about the lawsuits?

[Guest guest]

What are the doctors saying???? If they don't believe that Paxil can cause all sorts of ugly stuff then they aren't doing their homework. Have you told them about the lawsuits?

[Guest guest]

What are the doctors saying???? If they don't believe that Paxil can cause all sorts of ugly stuff then they aren't doing their homework. Have you told them about the lawsuits?

[Guest guest]

But when you come up for review....... they'll expect to see that you're under a doctors care...... does your doctor believe the paxil caused this? Mine believes I need to be on the stuff, and I'd get better! So, I'm non compliant to what the docs are saying! Makes me sick too!

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

In a message dated 4/28/02 1:39:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

I am on SSD because of what these drugs have done! But it was filed under "depression"!! Guess I'll be one of them to be forced drugged?? That's me, too. I'm on SSd for PTSD caused by Paxil. But I have a running script of Paxil and a leftover script of Trazodone, so when I come up for a review in x-number of years, I will get these two scripts refilled and present them as PROOF that I am already medicated. This is the New World Order. Make no mistake about it. And the SSRIs are the drug of choice for the sheeple. Now I'm going to be sick.

[Guest guest]

But when you come up for review....... they'll expect to see that you're under a doctors care...... does your doctor believe the paxil caused this? Mine believes I need to be on the stuff, and I'd get better! So, I'm non compliant to what the docs are saying! Makes me sick too!

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

In a message dated 4/28/02 1:39:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

I am on SSD because of what these drugs have done! But it was filed under "depression"!! Guess I'll be one of them to be forced drugged?? That's me, too. I'm on SSd for PTSD caused by Paxil. But I have a running script of Paxil and a leftover script of Trazodone, so when I come up for a review in x-number of years, I will get these two scripts refilled and present them as PROOF that I am already medicated. This is the New World Order. Make no mistake about it. And the SSRIs are the drug of choice for the sheeple. Now I'm going to be sick.

[Guest guest]

But when you come up for review....... they'll expect to see that you're under a doctors care...... does your doctor believe the paxil caused this? Mine believes I need to be on the stuff, and I'd get better! So, I'm non compliant to what the docs are saying! Makes me sick too!

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

In a message dated 4/28/02 1:39:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

I am on SSD because of what these drugs have done! But it was filed under "depression"!! Guess I'll be one of them to be forced drugged?? That's me, too. I'm on SSd for PTSD caused by Paxil. But I have a running script of Paxil and a leftover script of Trazodone, so when I come up for a review in x-number of years, I will get these two scripts refilled and present them as PROOF that I am already medicated. This is the New World Order. Make no mistake about it. And the SSRIs are the drug of choice for the sheeple. Now I'm going to be sick.

[Guest guest]

But when you come up for review....... they'll expect to see that you're under a doctors care...... does your doctor believe the paxil caused this? Mine believes I need to be on the stuff, and I'd get better! So, I'm non compliant to what the docs are saying! Makes me sick too!

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

In a message dated 4/28/02 1:39:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

I am on SSD because of what these drugs have done! But it was filed under "depression"!! Guess I'll be one of them to be forced drugged?? That's me, too. I'm on SSd for PTSD caused by Paxil. But I have a running script of Paxil and a leftover script of Trazodone, so when I come up for a review in x-number of years, I will get these two scripts refilled and present them as PROOF that I am already medicated. This is the New World Order. Make no mistake about it. And the SSRIs are the drug of choice for the sheeple. Now I'm going to be sick.

[Guest guest]

gosh.. I hope that works for you..... makes me wonder if I should continue the fight with the docs here! Oh.... I'm in such a mess.

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

In a message dated 4/28/02 10:13:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

does your doctor believe the paxil caused this? No, he thinks I need to be taking Paxil. But I'm a plaintiff in the class action lawsuit against the makers of Paxil, and all my psych records were as a result of my withdrawal, so it's pretty obvious that THAT doctor, who couldn't prescribe meds, was aware of what Paxil did to me, and by the time I come up for review, the lawsuit will have made big news. And if I have to, I'll just get some scripts before the review.

[Guest guest]

gosh.. I hope that works for you..... makes me wonder if I should continue the fight with the docs here! Oh.... I'm in such a mess.

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

In a message dated 4/28/02 10:13:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

does your doctor believe the paxil caused this? No, he thinks I need to be taking Paxil. But I'm a plaintiff in the class action lawsuit against the makers of Paxil, and all my psych records were as a result of my withdrawal, so it's pretty obvious that THAT doctor, who couldn't prescribe meds, was aware of what Paxil did to me, and by the time I come up for review, the lawsuit will have made big news. And if I have to, I'll just get some scripts before the review.

[Guest guest]

gosh.. I hope that works for you..... makes me wonder if I should continue the fight with the docs here! Oh.... I'm in such a mess.

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

In a message dated 4/28/02 10:13:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

does your doctor believe the paxil caused this? No, he thinks I need to be taking Paxil. But I'm a plaintiff in the class action lawsuit against the makers of Paxil, and all my psych records were as a result of my withdrawal, so it's pretty obvious that THAT doctor, who couldn't prescribe meds, was aware of what Paxil did to me, and by the time I come up for review, the lawsuit will have made big news. And if I have to, I'll just get some scripts before the review.

[Guest guest]

gosh.. I hope that works for you..... makes me wonder if I should continue the fight with the docs here! Oh.... I'm in such a mess.

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

In a message dated 4/28/02 10:13:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bluestar78@... writes:

does your doctor believe the paxil caused this? No, he thinks I need to be taking Paxil. But I'm a plaintiff in the class action lawsuit against the makers of Paxil, and all my psych records were as a result of my withdrawal, so it's pretty obvious that THAT doctor, who couldn't prescribe meds, was aware of what Paxil did to me, and by the time I come up for review, the lawsuit will have made big news. And if I have to, I'll just get some scripts before the review.

[Guest guest]

I crashed on 150mg of zoloft. I won't get into what happened the first 4 mo. it's difficult to drudge up. But the docs I've seen have all told me that these drugs are not causing my problems....... one told me they are the safest on the market. Yet I got a glimpse of what he'd written on my chart one time , stating "risks explained and accepted", when he changed my meds to Effexor or the paxil, ........ he never explained anything about risks! Prior to that, I had called him on misdocumenting what I'd told him. He became defensive, said he doesn't treat the chart, he treats the patient. I argued that other people see those charts! He said he'd change it... I don't know if he ever did. I stopped seeing him, when he let my script run out, knowing I was having a difficult time getting there to the appt. My primary at another clinic had given me a script for what the other doc had me on (Effexor) and I had that filled, so I only went a few days without it...... which I was already in withdrawals. My primary told me these drugs just don't have these kinds of problems, and because I'm depressed he feels I need to be on them. I took him all kinds of information I gathered here from the group. He told me I couldn't trust the internet..... there's "weird" people on there. It's not creditable information.

The next visit, I told him I wanted off, and needed him to monitor me. He said that I needed to be under a psychiatrist, because I'm depressed and refered me........ he ended with saying "Besides, if you want off. you can just stop taking them!" I went to the psychiatrist, told her flat out, I wanted off of the effexor. She gave me a script for one week of 37.5 mg of effexor. When I questioned her, she became angry saying she does this every day, and THIS was the way to do it. She documented that she did not want to see me again. I never filled that 37.5 script. On top of that I couldn't get the tablet form to taper slow. So I'm stuck with this 75mg capsule, that's time released. The first doc tried to put me on paxil with the zoloft. Thank God I questioned him!

I had run out of ink, and didn't take the lawsuit in...... but see that's on paxil, I'm not sure he'd accept that either. I really believe that these doctors run in packs here! There was one doc here who was taking people off these drugs, and he was given grief by the other docs, it took me a while to track him down, he now works only with natural healing. He wouldn't confirm that the docs gave him grief, but he did agree that they run in packs. Unfortunetly I don't have the money to go see him. $200.00 the first visit. I have an appt in May with my primary. I've spoke with the drug company who said I can have the doc call them and they would confirm that the taper needs to be slow. They also were adement that I be under a physicians care for it.

But after what you have said..... I wonder if I should tell him at all.

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

What are the doctors saying???? If they don't believe that Paxil can cause all sorts of ugly stuff then they aren't doing their homework. Have you told them about the lawsuits?

[Guest guest]

I crashed on 150mg of zoloft. I won't get into what happened the first 4 mo. it's difficult to drudge up. But the docs I've seen have all told me that these drugs are not causing my problems....... one told me they are the safest on the market. Yet I got a glimpse of what he'd written on my chart one time , stating "risks explained and accepted", when he changed my meds to Effexor or the paxil, ........ he never explained anything about risks! Prior to that, I had called him on misdocumenting what I'd told him. He became defensive, said he doesn't treat the chart, he treats the patient. I argued that other people see those charts! He said he'd change it... I don't know if he ever did. I stopped seeing him, when he let my script run out, knowing I was having a difficult time getting there to the appt. My primary at another clinic had given me a script for what the other doc had me on (Effexor) and I had that filled, so I only went a few days without it...... which I was already in withdrawals. My primary told me these drugs just don't have these kinds of problems, and because I'm depressed he feels I need to be on them. I took him all kinds of information I gathered here from the group. He told me I couldn't trust the internet..... there's "weird" people on there. It's not creditable information.

The next visit, I told him I wanted off, and needed him to monitor me. He said that I needed to be under a psychiatrist, because I'm depressed and refered me........ he ended with saying "Besides, if you want off. you can just stop taking them!" I went to the psychiatrist, told her flat out, I wanted off of the effexor. She gave me a script for one week of 37.5 mg of effexor. When I questioned her, she became angry saying she does this every day, and THIS was the way to do it. She documented that she did not want to see me again. I never filled that 37.5 script. On top of that I couldn't get the tablet form to taper slow. So I'm stuck with this 75mg capsule, that's time released. The first doc tried to put me on paxil with the zoloft. Thank God I questioned him!

I had run out of ink, and didn't take the lawsuit in...... but see that's on paxil, I'm not sure he'd accept that either. I really believe that these doctors run in packs here! There was one doc here who was taking people off these drugs, and he was given grief by the other docs, it took me a while to track him down, he now works only with natural healing. He wouldn't confirm that the docs gave him grief, but he did agree that they run in packs. Unfortunetly I don't have the money to go see him. $200.00 the first visit. I have an appt in May with my primary. I've spoke with the drug company who said I can have the doc call them and they would confirm that the taper needs to be slow. They also were adement that I be under a physicians care for it.

But after what you have said..... I wonder if I should tell him at all.

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

What are the doctors saying???? If they don't believe that Paxil can cause all sorts of ugly stuff then they aren't doing their homework. Have you told them about the lawsuits?

[Guest guest]

Geee that's long...... sorry!

It's all so hard to believe that my life has come to this.

Re: Bush/Hitler connection

What are the doctors saying???? If they don't believe that Paxil can cause all sorts of ugly stuff then they aren't doing their homework. Have you told them about the lawsuits?