Re: Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

[Guest guest]

The fuss isn't about the fed's "voluntary" rhetoric, but about numerous state contingency plans to indefnitely detain, seize property, set up roadblocks, etc, in case the governor decides to invoke these plans unilaterally and without any other input. Are you new to the list? Such plans are subject to change and may be found, ummm, well, google "state pandemic plans flu" - should be first list to come up. Montana, Illinois, others have such language, including the use of the military and other agencies to enforce them. You've heard about politics and passing the buck, right? Anyway, WHO declared the swine flu a level six pandemic months ago, the highest level, long before there were but a handful of cases. This obligates member countries to put such plans into place, not necessarily to carry them out,

however....

From: a Francia <albanuova2005@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Mon, October 5, 2009 7:02:05 PMSubject: Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory†H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health conditions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note: In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers. That is a local decision, not a federal one.

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany

[Guest guest]

The fuss isn't about the fed's "voluntary" rhetoric, but about numerous state contingency plans to indefnitely detain, seize property, set up roadblocks, etc, in case the governor decides to invoke these plans unilaterally and without any other input. Are you new to the list? Such plans are subject to change and may be found, ummm, well, google "state pandemic plans flu" - should be first list to come up. Montana, Illinois, others have such language, including the use of the military and other agencies to enforce them. You've heard about politics and passing the buck, right? Anyway, WHO declared the swine flu a level six pandemic months ago, the highest level, long before there were but a handful of cases. This obligates member countries to put such plans into place, not necessarily to carry them out,

however....

From: a Francia <albanuova2005@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Mon, October 5, 2009 7:02:05 PMSubject: Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory†H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health conditions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note: In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers. That is a local decision, not a federal one.

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany

[Guest guest]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:02 AM, a Francia <albanuova2005@...> wrote:

 

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu.gov/news/blogs/vaccinevoluntary.html

 Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

 

.. Consider yourself fortunate not to be an American right now, Dany.  In New York State H1N1 Flu Vaccination is MANDATORY for all front-line health care workers per an emergency regulation by the New York State Commissioner of Health.  No shot.  No job.  New York State is the only state so far that has done this but other state health departments are watching and if it succeeds here, you know that they will do the same all over the U.S. and then expand it.  NYS Dept of Health also strongly recommends H1N1 vaccines for pregnant women and children as well, although there is no mandate in place for those groups.

 

To paraphrase Rev. Niemoller:  First they came for the Health Care Workers in New York State .........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:02 AM, a Francia <albanuova2005@...> wrote:

 

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu.gov/news/blogs/vaccinevoluntary.html

 Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

 

.. Consider yourself fortunate not to be an American right now, Dany.  In New York State H1N1 Flu Vaccination is MANDATORY for all front-line health care workers per an emergency regulation by the New York State Commissioner of Health.  No shot.  No job.  New York State is the only state so far that has done this but other state health departments are watching and if it succeeds here, you know that they will do the same all over the U.S. and then expand it.  NYS Dept of Health also strongly recommends H1N1 vaccines for pregnant women and children as well, although there is no mandate in place for those groups.

 

To paraphrase Rev. Niemoller:  First they came for the Health Care Workers in New York State .........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:02 AM, a Francia <albanuova2005@...> wrote:

 

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu.gov/news/blogs/vaccinevoluntary.html

 Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

 

.. Consider yourself fortunate not to be an American right now, Dany.  In New York State H1N1 Flu Vaccination is MANDATORY for all front-line health care workers per an emergency regulation by the New York State Commissioner of Health.  No shot.  No job.  New York State is the only state so far that has done this but other state health departments are watching and if it succeeds here, you know that they will do the same all over the U.S. and then expand it.  NYS Dept of Health also strongly recommends H1N1 vaccines for pregnant women and children as well, although there is no mandate in place for those groups.

 

To paraphrase Rev. Niemoller:  First they came for the Health Care Workers in New York State .........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:02 AM, a Francia <albanuova2005@...> wrote:

 

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu.gov/news/blogs/vaccinevoluntary.html

 Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

 

.. Consider yourself fortunate not to be an American right now, Dany.  In New York State H1N1 Flu Vaccination is MANDATORY for all front-line health care workers per an emergency regulation by the New York State Commissioner of Health.  No shot.  No job.  New York State is the only state so far that has done this but other state health departments are watching and if it succeeds here, you know that they will do the same all over the U.S. and then expand it.  NYS Dept of Health also strongly recommends H1N1 vaccines for pregnant women and children as well, although there is no mandate in place for those groups.

 

To paraphrase Rev. Niemoller:  First they came for the Health Care Workers in New York State .........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yeah, and baby, voluntary or not, you do NOT want to turn your back on folks or fall asleep in a hospital. Sheep aren't the only critters anymore who are nervous and it ain't just in Montana, now. Night of the living dead...

From: Christiane Sauter RN <c.sauter.rn@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Tue, October 6, 2009 3:05:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:02 AM, a Francia <albanuova2005@ .it> wrote:

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

.. Consider yourself fortunate not to be an American right now, Dany. In New York State H1N1 Flu Vaccination is MANDATORY for all front-line health care workers per an emergency regulation by the New York State Commissioner of Health. No shot. No job. New York State is the only state so far that has done this but other state health departments are watching and if it succeeds here, you know that they will do the same all over the U.S. and then expand it. NYS Dept of Health also strongly recommends H1N1 vaccines for pregnant women and children as well, although there is no mandate in place for those groups.

To paraphrase Rev. Niemoller: First they came for the Health Care Workers in New York State .........

[Guest guest]

Yeah, and baby, voluntary or not, you do NOT want to turn your back on folks or fall asleep in a hospital. Sheep aren't the only critters anymore who are nervous and it ain't just in Montana, now. Night of the living dead...

From: Christiane Sauter RN <c.sauter.rn@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Tue, October 6, 2009 3:05:43 AMSubject: Re: Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:02 AM, a Francia <albanuova2005@ .it> wrote:

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

.. Consider yourself fortunate not to be an American right now, Dany. In New York State H1N1 Flu Vaccination is MANDATORY for all front-line health care workers per an emergency regulation by the New York State Commissioner of Health. No shot. No job. New York State is the only state so far that has done this but other state health departments are watching and if it succeeds here, you know that they will do the same all over the U.S. and then expand it. NYS Dept of Health also strongly recommends H1N1 vaccines for pregnant women and children as well, although there is no mandate in place for those groups.

To paraphrase Rev. Niemoller: First they came for the Health Care Workers in New York State .........

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all your great information here to all of you.I am in Quebec, Canada and I also follow everything closely more because people only speak French here and information comes very late and there is less information.  I still try to inform people but it is such a big strategy to start with. It is unbelievable for people to understand.  And also, everything is linked, according to my understanding.  Apparently here, vaccination will be POSTPONED till JANUARY... that is a surprise to me.  It might be just rhumors though. I cannot give you facts since everything is written in French.

All I gather is that recession (although Canada said it was over) can only go worst.  There will be a collapse of the USA dollar already starting to affect here also, since we follow the economy.  We know this recession was planned/wanted, of course.  Then this combination of the virus (H1N1 + H5N1), according to some sources, was released as a weapon in the Middle East few days ago and will hit to about 60-70% who should die from it.  Then, it appears that the productivity of the crops is getting worse and worse, so hyperinflation seems to be sure at 100% plus this virus which might hit soon.  Forced-vaccination will probably follow.  By the time, we are all sick and having a hard time to pay our bills, unless rich, we will become weak and here they will arrive with the NWO.  We probably will have no other choice.  Hoping that some miracles will change this course of life.

I am already prepared for the virus.  I do not think this should be a problem for me and my family to survive.  We are getting prepared for after vaccination, hoping that CLAY would do the job, MMS, SC, blood electrifier, whatever?  And still... impossible to predict.... I feel for the first time of my life, being in this real science-fiction movie that I cannot predict anything, therefore each day is now more important to me, since that I do not see any good future for now.  I am glad to have all of you to go through these times together.  Maybe there is hope and maybe I am wrong.  But all this seems to be linked to me and make sense.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:00 AM, hamish_dy <hamish.d.youngberry@...> wrote:

 

i am in australia and have been following this and other confirmable outlets for some time now.

I am concerned.

the population here in AUS are oblivious to the conspiracy and can't begin to understand that vaccines are even seriously dangerous.

mandatory is only a matter of time here as well.

we're on the agenda and they have better toys. much better toys.

i think it ceases to be a theory when there is ample suggestible proof and starts becoming a real possibility at the very least.

hamish

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I mean by " cards " -- whatever is being used to show proof of

> > vaccination. It may be a sheet of paper or a small card. My sister

> > will be getting vaccinated to keep her job as a healthcare worker.

> > (No interest in listening to her big sister!) She lives in Wisconsin

> > and I live in Minnesota but I will ask to see what she is given to

> > show proof of vaccination. It would be easy enough to duplicate and

> > use for myself if it becomes necessary. I would be willing to make

> > copies for others to use.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all your great information here to all of you.I am in Quebec, Canada and I also follow everything closely more because people only speak French here and information comes very late and there is less information.  I still try to inform people but it is such a big strategy to start with. It is unbelievable for people to understand.  And also, everything is linked, according to my understanding.  Apparently here, vaccination will be POSTPONED till JANUARY... that is a surprise to me.  It might be just rhumors though. I cannot give you facts since everything is written in French.

All I gather is that recession (although Canada said it was over) can only go worst.  There will be a collapse of the USA dollar already starting to affect here also, since we follow the economy.  We know this recession was planned/wanted, of course.  Then this combination of the virus (H1N1 + H5N1), according to some sources, was released as a weapon in the Middle East few days ago and will hit to about 60-70% who should die from it.  Then, it appears that the productivity of the crops is getting worse and worse, so hyperinflation seems to be sure at 100% plus this virus which might hit soon.  Forced-vaccination will probably follow.  By the time, we are all sick and having a hard time to pay our bills, unless rich, we will become weak and here they will arrive with the NWO.  We probably will have no other choice.  Hoping that some miracles will change this course of life.

I am already prepared for the virus.  I do not think this should be a problem for me and my family to survive.  We are getting prepared for after vaccination, hoping that CLAY would do the job, MMS, SC, blood electrifier, whatever?  And still... impossible to predict.... I feel for the first time of my life, being in this real science-fiction movie that I cannot predict anything, therefore each day is now more important to me, since that I do not see any good future for now.  I am glad to have all of you to go through these times together.  Maybe there is hope and maybe I am wrong.  But all this seems to be linked to me and make sense.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:00 AM, hamish_dy <hamish.d.youngberry@...> wrote:

 

i am in australia and have been following this and other confirmable outlets for some time now.

I am concerned.

the population here in AUS are oblivious to the conspiracy and can't begin to understand that vaccines are even seriously dangerous.

mandatory is only a matter of time here as well.

we're on the agenda and they have better toys. much better toys.

i think it ceases to be a theory when there is ample suggestible proof and starts becoming a real possibility at the very least.

hamish

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I mean by " cards " -- whatever is being used to show proof of

> > vaccination. It may be a sheet of paper or a small card. My sister

> > will be getting vaccinated to keep her job as a healthcare worker.

> > (No interest in listening to her big sister!) She lives in Wisconsin

> > and I live in Minnesota but I will ask to see what she is given to

> > show proof of vaccination. It would be easy enough to duplicate and

> > use for myself if it becomes necessary. I would be willing to make

> > copies for others to use.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

For your information, all HEALTH WORKERS in Canada have received the same orders as NYC... to get vaccinated if not they lose their job.  But nobody makes a big deal yet, since vaccination is not starting soon....and nobody was pushed with a deadline date yet. 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Christiane Sauter RN <c.sauter.rn@...> wrote:

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:02 AM, a Francia <albanuova2005@...> wrote:

 

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu.gov/news/blogs/vaccinevoluntary.html

 Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

 

.. Consider yourself fortunate not to be an American right now, Dany.  In New York State H1N1 Flu Vaccination is MANDATORY for all front-line health care workers per an emergency regulation by the New York State Commissioner of Health.  No shot.  No job.  New York State is the only state so far that has done this but other state health departments are watching and if it succeeds here, you know that they will do the same all over the U.S. and then expand it.  NYS Dept of Health also strongly recommends H1N1 vaccines for pregnant women and children as well, although there is no mandate in place for those groups.

 

To paraphrase Rev. Niemoller:  First they came for the Health Care Workers in New York State .........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

For your information, all HEALTH WORKERS in Canada have received the same orders as NYC... to get vaccinated if not they lose their job.  But nobody makes a big deal yet, since vaccination is not starting soon....and nobody was pushed with a deadline date yet. 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Christiane Sauter RN <c.sauter.rn@...> wrote:

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:02 AM, a Francia <albanuova2005@...> wrote:

 

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu.gov/news/blogs/vaccinevoluntary.html

 Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

 

.. Consider yourself fortunate not to be an American right now, Dany.  In New York State H1N1 Flu Vaccination is MANDATORY for all front-line health care workers per an emergency regulation by the New York State Commissioner of Health.  No shot.  No job.  New York State is the only state so far that has done this but other state health departments are watching and if it succeeds here, you know that they will do the same all over the U.S. and then expand it.  NYS Dept of Health also strongly recommends H1N1 vaccines for pregnant women and children as well, although there is no mandate in place for those groups.

 

To paraphrase Rev. Niemoller:  First they came for the Health Care Workers in New York State .........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have one question:  I understand that the Pharms will make lots of $$$$.However, they will also have to get vaccinated as well.  So what is the point of making money if you are going to get contaminated by the mandatory vaccine and die?  I do not understand it.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM, beverly buckman <bplayday@...> wrote:

 

That might be the one truth, but the WHO says we are in a (false) pandemic so they will want to make it mandatory for everyone in the world.  Think of what the Pharms will make on this  $$$$.  We must not get comfortable with any of this.  They have something planned for us this flu season and you must be prepared.  Don't ever think these companies and our government wouldn't suprise you with something horrible.  They have been bragging about there plans for eugenics.....what do you think this is all about!

From: a Francia <albanuova2005@...>Subject: Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

no-forced-vaccination Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 12:02 AM

 

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

 

 

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory” H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health conditions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note:  In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers.  That is a local decision, not a federal one.

 

 

 

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany

[Guest guest]

I have one question:  I understand that the Pharms will make lots of $$$$.However, they will also have to get vaccinated as well.  So what is the point of making money if you are going to get contaminated by the mandatory vaccine and die?  I do not understand it.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM, beverly buckman <bplayday@...> wrote:

 

That might be the one truth, but the WHO says we are in a (false) pandemic so they will want to make it mandatory for everyone in the world.  Think of what the Pharms will make on this  $$$$.  We must not get comfortable with any of this.  They have something planned for us this flu season and you must be prepared.  Don't ever think these companies and our government wouldn't suprise you with something horrible.  They have been bragging about there plans for eugenics.....what do you think this is all about!

From: a Francia <albanuova2005@...>Subject: Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

no-forced-vaccination Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 12:02 AM

 

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

 

 

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory” H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health conditions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note:  In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers.  That is a local decision, not a federal one.

 

 

 

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany

[Guest guest]

a,1.  They say there will be no place to hide. I consider the woods and being around armed people but still.. they have GPS.  They never could find Ben Laden but I am sure they will find us.  I heard they might start vaccination first in isolated small villages places.  So, I am not sure anymore it is a good plan B, but I prepare in the woods in case of.

2.  In Canada, few people are armed compared to USA.  But I would think it could be a good plan B to consider although they seem to have a list of all owners of arms.... like they mention for Montana State.  Adn still, if they come to our door, they will be many of them, not one military person....

3.  There is still the fact that if we get forced vaccination, we need to take this stuff out of our body and quick... there is no sure antimedication for taking it away.  A good ideal plan B would be, according to me, to get prepared altogether with our neighbours and organise ourselves with food, arms and all essential things.  The problem is that most of the people are not aware, we live in a kind of individual society.

4. Maybe a simple plan B would be to try to get in shape every day now, just do some exercises, train ourselves, because we are more and more people on the computers and our mussles are not as strong as they should be.  Start provisions of food, grains.  I am working of studying SPIRULINA, this plant that is sooo nutritive apparently and cheap once you get it... but still, need a bit of researches and studies.. nothing is totally easy..or obvious.

I agree however that INFORMATION is POWER.  I WILL BE WAITING FOR ANY SUGGESTIONS OF PLAN B.  Thanks.On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:17 PM, m_young26 <m_young26@...> wrote:

 

a,

Thank you, thank you for this post! When I first posted the question on what we could use for " proof " of vaccination if it came to that, some took it out of context and got away from a solution to this. I agree with you wholeheartedly that instead of focusing solely on the problem, we need to also focus on the solution of what we will do when/if there's forced vaccinations. Of course it would be the most preferable to avoid the vaccination at all costs and try to fight it being mandated as much as possible, but one needs to have a Plan B if for some reason we're not able to stop the vaccination - in other words, hope for the best but prepare for the worst. I think that having proper " proof " will be key in possibly averting this forced weaponized vaccine if we're unable to stop it. I think that being able to mass duplicate cards or whatever papers the vaccine recipients will be receiving upon vaccination is an excellent idea. I also hope that we as members could discuss other things such as ways to hide guns or other weapons of self defense in order to avoid them from being confiscated. I thoguht it was an excellent question awhile back of someone who asked where to hide at if it comes to that.

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> >

> > >

> >

> > not sure what you mean - cards?

> >

> > sheri

> >

> > >Here is an idea that could be of use to the group. We need to figure

> > >out a way that we can duplicate many times over an authentic proof of

> > >vaccination. There are not enough members in the medical community

> > >to hand out actual cards but if someone in this group gets their hand

> > >on one, let's see if we can find a way to duplicate it. I think each

> > >of us must know someone in their area that plans to get vaccinated.

> > >Sharing that proof with others could be very helpful. Just a

> > >thought.

> > >

> > >Peace,

> > >a

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

a,1.  They say there will be no place to hide. I consider the woods and being around armed people but still.. they have GPS.  They never could find Ben Laden but I am sure they will find us.  I heard they might start vaccination first in isolated small villages places.  So, I am not sure anymore it is a good plan B, but I prepare in the woods in case of.

2.  In Canada, few people are armed compared to USA.  But I would think it could be a good plan B to consider although they seem to have a list of all owners of arms.... like they mention for Montana State.  Adn still, if they come to our door, they will be many of them, not one military person....

3.  There is still the fact that if we get forced vaccination, we need to take this stuff out of our body and quick... there is no sure antimedication for taking it away.  A good ideal plan B would be, according to me, to get prepared altogether with our neighbours and organise ourselves with food, arms and all essential things.  The problem is that most of the people are not aware, we live in a kind of individual society.

4. Maybe a simple plan B would be to try to get in shape every day now, just do some exercises, train ourselves, because we are more and more people on the computers and our mussles are not as strong as they should be.  Start provisions of food, grains.  I am working of studying SPIRULINA, this plant that is sooo nutritive apparently and cheap once you get it... but still, need a bit of researches and studies.. nothing is totally easy..or obvious.

I agree however that INFORMATION is POWER.  I WILL BE WAITING FOR ANY SUGGESTIONS OF PLAN B.  Thanks.On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:17 PM, m_young26 <m_young26@...> wrote:

 

a,

Thank you, thank you for this post! When I first posted the question on what we could use for " proof " of vaccination if it came to that, some took it out of context and got away from a solution to this. I agree with you wholeheartedly that instead of focusing solely on the problem, we need to also focus on the solution of what we will do when/if there's forced vaccinations. Of course it would be the most preferable to avoid the vaccination at all costs and try to fight it being mandated as much as possible, but one needs to have a Plan B if for some reason we're not able to stop the vaccination - in other words, hope for the best but prepare for the worst. I think that having proper " proof " will be key in possibly averting this forced weaponized vaccine if we're unable to stop it. I think that being able to mass duplicate cards or whatever papers the vaccine recipients will be receiving upon vaccination is an excellent idea. I also hope that we as members could discuss other things such as ways to hide guns or other weapons of self defense in order to avoid them from being confiscated. I thoguht it was an excellent question awhile back of someone who asked where to hide at if it comes to that.

> >

> >

> > >

> >

> > not sure what you mean - cards?

> >

> > sheri

> >

> > >Here is an idea that could be of use to the group. We need to figure

> > >out a way that we can duplicate many times over an authentic proof of

> > >vaccination. There are not enough members in the medical community

> > >to hand out actual cards but if someone in this group gets their hand

> > >on one, let's see if we can find a way to duplicate it. I think each

> > >of us must know someone in their area that plans to get vaccinated.

> > >Sharing that proof with others could be very helpful. Just a

> > >thought.

> > >

> > >Peace,

> > >a

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dann, I highly doubt they will get vaccinated just as many oncologists would not take chemotherapy themselves if they had cancer.

Quite an eye opener here http://www.starthealthylife.com/page296.htm

Effective non-toxic treatments for cancer...

By Rev. Barbara Clearbridge

SUPPRESSION OF FACTS BY RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS AND GOVERNMENTS

“Despite the public’s support and growing interest in nontoxic, noninvasive alternative approaches, the medical establishment has waged a fierce campaign against such therapies, labeling them quackery.... Official medicine pours billions of dollars into narrow research supporting chemotherapy, radiation and surgery as the major weapons in ‘the war on cancer.’ That war has been a total failure in slowing the death rate... “‘Everyone should know that the “war on cancer” is largely a fraud,’ wrote Dr. Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner. Another Nobel winner, Dr. , codiscoverer of the DNA double helix, put the matter more bluntly. served for two years on the National Cancer Advisory Board. Asked in 1975 what he thought of the National Cancer Program, he promptly replied, ‘It’s a bunch of shit."4

Dr. Hardin , Professor of medical physics at the University of California at Berkeley, analyzed cancer survival statistics for 25 years. In 1969, at an American Cancer Society (ACS) meeting, he said that untreated patients do not die sooner than patients receiving orthodox treatment, and in many cases they live longer. This negative assessment was subsequently supported by three other studies done by other researchers. No study has ever refuted these findings.5

A group of vested, interlocking interests preserve the status quo in cancer treatment and research. This group includes the ACS, National Cancer Institute (NCI), large pharmaceutical companies, and some insurance firms, hospitals, and medical schools, according to Walters, author of Options: The Alternative Cancer Therapy Book. He asserts that this “medical cartel” is headed by the American Medical Association (AMA), “a trade union with an extremely powerful lobby.” According to Walters, the AMA represents less than half the allopathic (conventional) doctors in the U.S., yet has a stranglehold over government American health care policies.

Over the course of time, the AMA has denounced midwifery, selfcare, optometry, homeopathy*, osteopathy, acupuncture and lay analysis as being dangerous, fraudulent, or both.* A long-established medical profession in Europe

In 1987, the AMA was found guilty of restraint of trade in a “conspiracy to destroy and eliminate” the chiropractic profession, a legitimate competitor. Chiropractic physicians still have reporting requirements which allopathic physicians do not. The AMA continues to stage campaigns against alternative methods and doctors. In 1953, U.S. Justice Department lawyer Benedict Fitzgerald led an investigation into the cancer industry. The investigation concluded that the AMA, NCI and FDA had entered into a conspiracy to promote radiation, chemotherapy and surgery, while suppressing promising therapies that were highly praised by the cured patients themselves. What was the government’s response? Fitzgerald was fired.7

FACTS ABOUT SURGERY

Here are some things to think about when pondering having surgery. The September 22, 1986 issue of “Business Week” noted that surgery, radiation and chemotherapy all tend to fail for a very simple reason: a tumor the size of your thumb has one billion malignant cells in it. Even if a treatment gets 99.9% of them, a million remain to kill you.8

"An operation on a bad malignant case is a very [great] matter. Sometimes one gets a blaze up of toxaemia.... Further, cancer has very frequently spread far beyond the reach of operation and the operation shock hastens the spread of the [cancer] virus and the death of the patient.”9 How about lymph node surgery, in an effort to remove every cancer cell? McGrady of CANHELP says: “Even though it’s been proven conclusively that lymph node excision after radiation does not prevent the spread of cervical cancer, you will still see lymphadenectomies performed all over the country routinely. This despite the fact that lymphadenectomies make women feel so bad they wish they were dead – and are a proven useless procedure.”10

FACTS ABOUT RADIATION TREATMENT

“The majority of cancers cannot be cured by radiation because the dose of X rays required to kill all the cancer cells would also kill the patient. 11Professor Cairns, Harvard University School of Public Health, 1985

Dr. R. , 1980: “Many radiation complications do not occur for several years after treatment, giving the therapist and the patient a false sense of security for a year or two following therapy...the bone marrow, in which blood cells are made, is largely obliterated in the field of irradiation.... This is an irreversible effect.”12

Dr. Lucien Israel, consultant to the NCI, said in 1978, that people who undergo radiation therapy are more likely to have their cancer metastasize to other sites. Other studies have supported this view. He also stated that the radioactivity intended to kill cancer cells can, instead, trigger mutations that create new cancer cells of other types.13

According to several clinical trials and a study published in “The Lancet,” a British medical journal, radiotherapy [radiation] following breast surgery increases death rates.14

Early studies at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center In New York showed that radiotherapy was deadly and that patients who received NO radiation lived longer than those who were irradiated.15

Dr. Irwin Bross, former Director of Biostatistics at Roswell Park Memorial Institute, said in 1979: “For 30 years radiologists in this country have been engaged in massive malpractice.” It should not surprise us that Bross was unable to get funding to research what he calls “doctor-caused cancer” from radiation therapy.

If these studies and quotes are true, why does your doctor continue to recommend radiation? We’ll get to that in the last part of this report. In the meantime, he or she certainly knows about the side effects, which include severe, prolonged immune deficiency (which leads to contracting other kinds of illnesses), and chromosomal damage, both of which can result in later cancers. These are not “side effects,” these are PRIMARY EFFECTS. Radiation can also cause nausea, vomiting, weakness and fatigue (to the point where some patients become bedridden), sores or ulcers, bone death following irradiation of the mouth, welts and extensive burns of the skin, rectal ulcers, fistulas, bladder ulcers, colitis, and even the swelling of a tumor after a large dose of radiation, which is especially dangerous for brain tumors. If these “side effects” were caused by an herbal treatment, a homeopathic one, or any alternative treatment, do you think the treatment would be approved by the FDA and the AMA?

Dr. Kelley, developer of an alternative, metabolic treatment: “Often while making a biopsy the malignant tumor is cut across, which tends to spread or accelerate the [cancer] growth. Needle biopsies can accomplish the same tragic results.” Surgery to remove the tumor can do the same thing. Dr. Kelley advises using homeopathic treatment to 16 render the tumor harmless before attempting surgery.

FACTS ABOUT CHEMOTHERAPY

“The cancers from which most people die – the big killers like breast, colon, and lung cancer – generally do not respond to chemotherapy. Chemotherapy has only a limited effectiveness against any tumor that is large or has spread; its successes are generally with small, very early tumors. Several studies indicate that chemotherapy has no survival value in breast cancer.”17

Most cancer patients in this country die of chemotherapy. Chemotherapy does not eliminate breast, colon or lung cancers. The fact has been documented for over a decade.... Women with breast cancer are likely to die faster with chemotherapy than without it.”18Dr. Alan Levin, Professor of Immunology, University of California Medical School, 1987

Dr. Cairns says that chemotherapy at most prevents “perhaps 2% or 3%” of the cancer deaths each year. If 19 you have been diagnosed with cancer, find out if your type will be hurt or helped by chemotherapy. (See Resources)

Ulrich Abel, Ph.D., of West Germany, did a comprehensive study on chemotherapy. In 1990 he wrote, “There is no evidence for the vast majority of cancers that treatment with these drugs exerts any positive influence on survival or quality of life in patients with advanced disease.” He stated that although chemotherapy does shrink tumors initially in many patients, unfortunately this did not prolong survival because the cancer usually returned, often more aggressively than at first. In Abel’s poll of hundreds of cancer doctors worldwide, he discovered that many oncologists would not take chemotherapy themselves if they had cancer. Publicity about Abel’s research was completely suppressed in the U.S. (So much for freedom of speech in the media.)

Dr. Levin, at a national conference on medical abuses, said: “Practicing physicians are intimidated into using regimes which they know do not work. One of the most glaring examples is chemotherapy, which does not work for the majority of cancers. Despite the fact that most physicians agree that chemotherapy is largely ineffective, they are coerced into using it by special interest groups which have vested interest in the profits of the drug industry.” (More 20 on that, later.)

In the meantime, chemotherapy continues, despite the fact that ALL chemotherapy drugs are toxic, and many are themselves carcinogenic.

Where is the logic in using cancer-causing drugs to fight cancer? Where is the logic in suppressing the body’s mechanism for fighting disease – the immune system – in order to fight disease? According to statistics about treatment results, there IS no logic. It doesn’t work.

“The ‘proven’ methods of toxic chemotherapy, carcinogenic radiotherapy [radiation] and surgery are a failure for the majority of patients. The death rates from the six major killer cancers – cancers of the lung, colon, breast, prostate, pancreas, and ovary – have either stayed the same or increased during the past sixty years.21

The overall, age-adjusted cancer death rate has RISEN by 5% since the “war on cancer” began, and this is despite earlier detection.22

Before you agree to chemotherapy, surgery or radiation, contact some of the consumer groups listed at the end of this report. Get some second opinions about the effectiveness of these choices for your specific kind of cancer.

“As each technological advance entered medical practice, we found ourselves paying an increasing price of unexpected side effects. Most technological cures for cancer, for example, were found to be carcinogenic themselves. Because such unexpected side effects have required additional ‘technological fixes,’ we now find ourselves in a spiral in which technological applications are piled one atop another, with no end in sight, and no cure for the patient. The chemical-mechanistic paradigm* has failed, and a medical revolution has begun.... Many physicians are reexamining and applying therapeutic techniques that were previously discarded as ‘unscientific’ by academic medicine. The use of foods, herbs, meditation, and acupuncture are only a few examples. This radical change in medical practice is deeply rooted in ancient concepts of life, energy, and medicine, and it includes a reaffirmation of the innate healing ability of living things.”23* This idea states that people are machines: if a part breaks, you fix that part. The paradigm does not take into account the rest of the body, or the effects of lifestyle, mind, emotions and spirit on health.

I have one question: I understand that the Pharms will make lots of $$$$.

However, they will also have to get vaccinated as well. So what is the point of making money if you are going to get contaminated by the mandatory vaccine and die? I do not understand it.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM, beverly buckman <bplayday@...> wrote:

That might be the one truth, but the WHO says we are in a (false) pandemic so they will want to make it mandatory for everyone in the world. Think of what the Pharms will make on this $$$$. We must not get comfortable with any of this. They have something planned for us this flu season and you must be prepared. Don't ever think these companies and our government wouldn't suprise you with something horrible. They have been bragging about there plans for eugenics.....what do you think this is all about!

From: a Francia <albanuova2005@...>

Subject: Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

no-forced-vaccination Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 12:02 AM

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory” H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health conditions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note: In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers. That is a local decision, not a federal one.

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4486 (20091007) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Dann, I highly doubt they will get vaccinated just as many oncologists would not take chemotherapy themselves if they had cancer.

Quite an eye opener here http://www.starthealthylife.com/page296.htm

Effective non-toxic treatments for cancer...

By Rev. Barbara Clearbridge

SUPPRESSION OF FACTS BY RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS AND GOVERNMENTS

“Despite the public’s support and growing interest in nontoxic, noninvasive alternative approaches, the medical establishment has waged a fierce campaign against such therapies, labeling them quackery.... Official medicine pours billions of dollars into narrow research supporting chemotherapy, radiation and surgery as the major weapons in ‘the war on cancer.’ That war has been a total failure in slowing the death rate... “‘Everyone should know that the “war on cancer” is largely a fraud,’ wrote Dr. Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner. Another Nobel winner, Dr. , codiscoverer of the DNA double helix, put the matter more bluntly. served for two years on the National Cancer Advisory Board. Asked in 1975 what he thought of the National Cancer Program, he promptly replied, ‘It’s a bunch of shit."4

Dr. Hardin , Professor of medical physics at the University of California at Berkeley, analyzed cancer survival statistics for 25 years. In 1969, at an American Cancer Society (ACS) meeting, he said that untreated patients do not die sooner than patients receiving orthodox treatment, and in many cases they live longer. This negative assessment was subsequently supported by three other studies done by other researchers. No study has ever refuted these findings.5

A group of vested, interlocking interests preserve the status quo in cancer treatment and research. This group includes the ACS, National Cancer Institute (NCI), large pharmaceutical companies, and some insurance firms, hospitals, and medical schools, according to Walters, author of Options: The Alternative Cancer Therapy Book. He asserts that this “medical cartel” is headed by the American Medical Association (AMA), “a trade union with an extremely powerful lobby.” According to Walters, the AMA represents less than half the allopathic (conventional) doctors in the U.S., yet has a stranglehold over government American health care policies.

Over the course of time, the AMA has denounced midwifery, selfcare, optometry, homeopathy*, osteopathy, acupuncture and lay analysis as being dangerous, fraudulent, or both.* A long-established medical profession in Europe

In 1987, the AMA was found guilty of restraint of trade in a “conspiracy to destroy and eliminate” the chiropractic profession, a legitimate competitor. Chiropractic physicians still have reporting requirements which allopathic physicians do not. The AMA continues to stage campaigns against alternative methods and doctors. In 1953, U.S. Justice Department lawyer Benedict Fitzgerald led an investigation into the cancer industry. The investigation concluded that the AMA, NCI and FDA had entered into a conspiracy to promote radiation, chemotherapy and surgery, while suppressing promising therapies that were highly praised by the cured patients themselves. What was the government’s response? Fitzgerald was fired.7

FACTS ABOUT SURGERY

Here are some things to think about when pondering having surgery. The September 22, 1986 issue of “Business Week” noted that surgery, radiation and chemotherapy all tend to fail for a very simple reason: a tumor the size of your thumb has one billion malignant cells in it. Even if a treatment gets 99.9% of them, a million remain to kill you.8

"An operation on a bad malignant case is a very [great] matter. Sometimes one gets a blaze up of toxaemia.... Further, cancer has very frequently spread far beyond the reach of operation and the operation shock hastens the spread of the [cancer] virus and the death of the patient.”9 How about lymph node surgery, in an effort to remove every cancer cell? McGrady of CANHELP says: “Even though it’s been proven conclusively that lymph node excision after radiation does not prevent the spread of cervical cancer, you will still see lymphadenectomies performed all over the country routinely. This despite the fact that lymphadenectomies make women feel so bad they wish they were dead – and are a proven useless procedure.”10

FACTS ABOUT RADIATION TREATMENT

“The majority of cancers cannot be cured by radiation because the dose of X rays required to kill all the cancer cells would also kill the patient. 11Professor Cairns, Harvard University School of Public Health, 1985

Dr. R. , 1980: “Many radiation complications do not occur for several years after treatment, giving the therapist and the patient a false sense of security for a year or two following therapy...the bone marrow, in which blood cells are made, is largely obliterated in the field of irradiation.... This is an irreversible effect.”12

Dr. Lucien Israel, consultant to the NCI, said in 1978, that people who undergo radiation therapy are more likely to have their cancer metastasize to other sites. Other studies have supported this view. He also stated that the radioactivity intended to kill cancer cells can, instead, trigger mutations that create new cancer cells of other types.13

According to several clinical trials and a study published in “The Lancet,” a British medical journal, radiotherapy [radiation] following breast surgery increases death rates.14

Early studies at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center In New York showed that radiotherapy was deadly and that patients who received NO radiation lived longer than those who were irradiated.15

Dr. Irwin Bross, former Director of Biostatistics at Roswell Park Memorial Institute, said in 1979: “For 30 years radiologists in this country have been engaged in massive malpractice.” It should not surprise us that Bross was unable to get funding to research what he calls “doctor-caused cancer” from radiation therapy.

If these studies and quotes are true, why does your doctor continue to recommend radiation? We’ll get to that in the last part of this report. In the meantime, he or she certainly knows about the side effects, which include severe, prolonged immune deficiency (which leads to contracting other kinds of illnesses), and chromosomal damage, both of which can result in later cancers. These are not “side effects,” these are PRIMARY EFFECTS. Radiation can also cause nausea, vomiting, weakness and fatigue (to the point where some patients become bedridden), sores or ulcers, bone death following irradiation of the mouth, welts and extensive burns of the skin, rectal ulcers, fistulas, bladder ulcers, colitis, and even the swelling of a tumor after a large dose of radiation, which is especially dangerous for brain tumors. If these “side effects” were caused by an herbal treatment, a homeopathic one, or any alternative treatment, do you think the treatment would be approved by the FDA and the AMA?

Dr. Kelley, developer of an alternative, metabolic treatment: “Often while making a biopsy the malignant tumor is cut across, which tends to spread or accelerate the [cancer] growth. Needle biopsies can accomplish the same tragic results.” Surgery to remove the tumor can do the same thing. Dr. Kelley advises using homeopathic treatment to 16 render the tumor harmless before attempting surgery.

FACTS ABOUT CHEMOTHERAPY

“The cancers from which most people die – the big killers like breast, colon, and lung cancer – generally do not respond to chemotherapy. Chemotherapy has only a limited effectiveness against any tumor that is large or has spread; its successes are generally with small, very early tumors. Several studies indicate that chemotherapy has no survival value in breast cancer.”17

Most cancer patients in this country die of chemotherapy. Chemotherapy does not eliminate breast, colon or lung cancers. The fact has been documented for over a decade.... Women with breast cancer are likely to die faster with chemotherapy than without it.”18Dr. Alan Levin, Professor of Immunology, University of California Medical School, 1987

Dr. Cairns says that chemotherapy at most prevents “perhaps 2% or 3%” of the cancer deaths each year. If 19 you have been diagnosed with cancer, find out if your type will be hurt or helped by chemotherapy. (See Resources)

Ulrich Abel, Ph.D., of West Germany, did a comprehensive study on chemotherapy. In 1990 he wrote, “There is no evidence for the vast majority of cancers that treatment with these drugs exerts any positive influence on survival or quality of life in patients with advanced disease.” He stated that although chemotherapy does shrink tumors initially in many patients, unfortunately this did not prolong survival because the cancer usually returned, often more aggressively than at first. In Abel’s poll of hundreds of cancer doctors worldwide, he discovered that many oncologists would not take chemotherapy themselves if they had cancer. Publicity about Abel’s research was completely suppressed in the U.S. (So much for freedom of speech in the media.)

Dr. Levin, at a national conference on medical abuses, said: “Practicing physicians are intimidated into using regimes which they know do not work. One of the most glaring examples is chemotherapy, which does not work for the majority of cancers. Despite the fact that most physicians agree that chemotherapy is largely ineffective, they are coerced into using it by special interest groups which have vested interest in the profits of the drug industry.” (More 20 on that, later.)

In the meantime, chemotherapy continues, despite the fact that ALL chemotherapy drugs are toxic, and many are themselves carcinogenic.

Where is the logic in using cancer-causing drugs to fight cancer? Where is the logic in suppressing the body’s mechanism for fighting disease – the immune system – in order to fight disease? According to statistics about treatment results, there IS no logic. It doesn’t work.

“The ‘proven’ methods of toxic chemotherapy, carcinogenic radiotherapy [radiation] and surgery are a failure for the majority of patients. The death rates from the six major killer cancers – cancers of the lung, colon, breast, prostate, pancreas, and ovary – have either stayed the same or increased during the past sixty years.21

The overall, age-adjusted cancer death rate has RISEN by 5% since the “war on cancer” began, and this is despite earlier detection.22

Before you agree to chemotherapy, surgery or radiation, contact some of the consumer groups listed at the end of this report. Get some second opinions about the effectiveness of these choices for your specific kind of cancer.

“As each technological advance entered medical practice, we found ourselves paying an increasing price of unexpected side effects. Most technological cures for cancer, for example, were found to be carcinogenic themselves. Because such unexpected side effects have required additional ‘technological fixes,’ we now find ourselves in a spiral in which technological applications are piled one atop another, with no end in sight, and no cure for the patient. The chemical-mechanistic paradigm* has failed, and a medical revolution has begun.... Many physicians are reexamining and applying therapeutic techniques that were previously discarded as ‘unscientific’ by academic medicine. The use of foods, herbs, meditation, and acupuncture are only a few examples. This radical change in medical practice is deeply rooted in ancient concepts of life, energy, and medicine, and it includes a reaffirmation of the innate healing ability of living things.”23* This idea states that people are machines: if a part breaks, you fix that part. The paradigm does not take into account the rest of the body, or the effects of lifestyle, mind, emotions and spirit on health.

I have one question: I understand that the Pharms will make lots of $$$$.

However, they will also have to get vaccinated as well. So what is the point of making money if you are going to get contaminated by the mandatory vaccine and die? I do not understand it.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM, beverly buckman <bplayday@...> wrote:

That might be the one truth, but the WHO says we are in a (false) pandemic so they will want to make it mandatory for everyone in the world. Think of what the Pharms will make on this $$$$. We must not get comfortable with any of this. They have something planned for us this flu season and you must be prepared. Don't ever think these companies and our government wouldn't suprise you with something horrible. They have been bragging about there plans for eugenics.....what do you think this is all about!

From: a Francia <albanuova2005@...>

Subject: Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

no-forced-vaccination Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 12:02 AM

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory” H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health conditions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note: In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers. That is a local decision, not a federal one.

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4486 (20091007) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Another sucker is born every minute. W. C. Fields

From: Dann Murray <janick2547@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 12:12:15 AMSubject: Re: Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

I have one question: I understand that the Pharms will make lots of $$$$.

However, they will also have to get vaccinated as well. So what is the point of making money if you are going to get contaminated by the mandatory vaccine and die? I do not understand it.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM, beverly buckman <bplayday (DOT) com> wrote:

That might be the one truth, but the WHO says we are in a (false) pandemic so they will want to make it mandatory for everyone in the world. Think of what the Pharms will make on this $$$$. We must not get comfortable with any of this. They have something planned for us this flu season and you must be prepared. Don't ever think these companies and our government wouldn't suprise you with something horrible. They have been bragging about there plans for eugenics.... .what do you think this is all about!

From: a Francia <albanuova2005@ .it>

Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 12:02 AM

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory†H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health conditions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note: In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers. That is a local decision, not a federal one.

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany

[Guest guest]

trust me NONE of THEM will be vaccinated. We have BUSH giggling leaving the whitehouse years ago saying...."I DONT GET vaccinated."

Not even DAINES (NYS COMMISSIONER ON HEALTH) is getting it. He was on Roney and ARROGANTLY made the claim that his is NOT getting it. Welcome to the NWO. They WANT to piss us off...

[no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 12:02 AM

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory†H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health condit

ions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note: In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers. That is a local decision, not a federal one.

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany

[Guest guest]

trust me NONE of THEM will be vaccinated. We have BUSH giggling leaving the whitehouse years ago saying...."I DONT GET vaccinated."

Not even DAINES (NYS COMMISSIONER ON HEALTH) is getting it. He was on Roney and ARROGANTLY made the claim that his is NOT getting it. Welcome to the NWO. They WANT to piss us off...

[no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 12:02 AM

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory†H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health condit

ions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note: In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers. That is a local decision, not a federal one.

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany

[Guest guest]

trust me NONE of THEM will be vaccinated. We have BUSH giggling leaving the whitehouse years ago saying...."I DONT GET vaccinated."

Not even DAINES (NYS COMMISSIONER ON HEALTH) is getting it. He was on Roney and ARROGANTLY made the claim that his is NOT getting it. Welcome to the NWO. They WANT to piss us off...

[no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 12:02 AM

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory†H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health condit

ions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note: In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers. That is a local decision, not a federal one.

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany

[Guest guest]

trust me NONE of THEM will be vaccinated. We have BUSH giggling leaving the whitehouse years ago saying...."I DONT GET vaccinated."

Not even DAINES (NYS COMMISSIONER ON HEALTH) is getting it. He was on Roney and ARROGANTLY made the claim that his is NOT getting it. Welcome to the NWO. They WANT to piss us off...

[no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 12:02 AM

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory†H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health condit

ions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note: In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers. That is a local decision, not a federal one.

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany

[Guest guest]

Someone just told me yesterday that they know of a County Health Commissioner who never gets vaccinated for anything and advises his staff not to either.Jules B

From: a Francia <albanuova2005@ .it>

Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 12:02 AM

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory†H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health condit

ions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note: In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers. That is a local decision, not a federal one.

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany

[Guest guest]

Someone just told me yesterday that they know of a County Health Commissioner who never gets vaccinated for anything and advises his staff not to either.Jules B

From: a Francia <albanuova2005@ .it>

Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES / PROOF OF VACCINE

no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 12:02 AM

I'm not American but I have found this site http://www.flu. gov/news/ blogs/vaccinevol untary.html

Flu Fact: H1N1 Flu Vaccination is VOLUNTARY

September 28, 2009

There is currently a petition circulating on a few internet sites protesting the federal government’s “mandatory†H1N1 vaccination program. Here’s a flu fact for you: the federal vaccination program for H1N1 flu is VOLUNTARY, just like the seasonal flu vaccination program. Top federal health officials highly recommend that people get vaccinated, and they stress that the vaccine is the best defense against the 2009 H1N1 flu. People with underlying health condit

ions like asthma or diabetes, health care workers, pregnant women, caregivers for infants under six months of age, and children and young adults from six months to 24 years of age are especially encouraged to participate in this vaccination program. The vaccine will be available to anyone who wants it, and the decision to get vaccinated is up to each individual.

Note: In a few local jurisdictions, vaccination is being required for health care workers. That is a local decision, not a federal one.

Why you think that the vaccination is mandatory?

Sorry for my english

Dany