Guest guest Posted August 18, 2001 Report Share Posted August 18, 2001 http://www.mercola.com/2001/aug/18/placebo.htm Science States Placebo Effect Is Real Despite a recent report questioning whether an inactive medical treatment can cause improvement in patients' symptoms, new research from Canada suggests that the "placebo effect" is real. The study found that Parkinson's disease patients who took an inactive placebo pill experienced a substantial increase in the release of a brain chemical called dopamine. The release of dopamine is impaired in people with Parkinson's. The researchers measured dopamine levels under two different conditions. During one part of the study, patients did not know whether they were taking the Parkinson's drug apomorphine or a placebo. Dopamine was also measured under normal conditions when patients knew they were not taking a placebo. When patients were unknowingly taking a placebo, they experienced an increase in dopamine levels similar to that caused by Parkinson's drugs. Science August 10, 2001;293:1164-1166 DR. MERCOLA'S COMMENT: This is powerful evidence of the incredible essentially untapped healing resource that we have in our brain and can clearly be used quite effectively as demonstrated in the article above and the link below. It is especially interesting considering the fact that "Science" is one of the top scientific journals is the world. Related Articles: Empathy and Warmth In Doctor-Patient Relationships Can Be Potent Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 In a message dated 8/10/2006 4:06:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, SSRI medications writes: If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the results would be significantly superior to antidepressants. That's because the person is probably nutrient deficient in the first place. We know that psych meds don't correct anything, nor do they cure anything, but vitamins do both things, and would certainly be better for any patient that nutrient-depleting pharmaceuticals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 In a message dated 8/10/2006 4:06:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, SSRI medications writes: If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the results would be significantly superior to antidepressants. That's because the person is probably nutrient deficient in the first place. We know that psych meds don't correct anything, nor do they cure anything, but vitamins do both things, and would certainly be better for any patient that nutrient-depleting pharmaceuticals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 In a message dated 8/10/2006 4:06:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, SSRI medications writes: If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the results would be significantly superior to antidepressants. That's because the person is probably nutrient deficient in the first place. We know that psych meds don't correct anything, nor do they cure anything, but vitamins do both things, and would certainly be better for any patient that nutrient-depleting pharmaceuticals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 In a message dated 8/10/2006 4:06:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, SSRI medications writes: If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the results would be significantly superior to antidepressants. That's because the person is probably nutrient deficient in the first place. We know that psych meds don't correct anything, nor do they cure anything, but vitamins do both things, and would certainly be better for any patient that nutrient-depleting pharmaceuticals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Good point , many thanks. I would need some references to the claims he makes though and if somebody can find these and send them on, I will include this in my comments. If taking thyroxine has a placebo effect, then, as you say, it would surely make sense to prescribe it. Luv - Sheila Placebo Effect Here's one for the BTA:Another article by Jerome Burne in the Daily Mail "How powerful placebos could save the NHS millions - AND still cure illnesses"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=487778 & in_page_id=1774 So, the BTA reckon that thyroxin is just a placebo eh? Well, what does it matter if it makes us well.Luv No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.5/1228 - Release Date: 16/01/2008 09:01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Quote from that article: " It's even possible to boost the effectiveness of placebo painkillers by using a drug - proglumide - which stimulates the brain's 'expectation pathways' in the front part of the brain. " I really don't like the sound of that at all!! If you google it, it apparently makes rats eat more. So does it mess with your will-power in some way? Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 IM ne w, have NO idea if Im doing this right. Tried to post on the main thing but I havent seen it. OK, I was reading the article, where did it state the BTA think placebo effect will work? AM I looking too much to see it? Sorry if I appear a bit slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Hi Tracey, Eating more- weight gain- I really don't like the sound of this at all. I still gain weight at the drop of a cream cracker, though I'm well medicated. >>>>>Quote from that article: " It's even possible to boost the effectiveness of placebo painkillers by using a drug - proglumide - which stimulates the brain's 'expectation pathways' in the front part of the brain. " >>>>>>I really don't like the sound of that at all!! If you google it, it apparently makes rats eat more. So does it mess with your will-power in some way? Tracey Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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