Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I am not sure about what needs to be changed, i wrote to Dr. Deagle and he gave me the jurisdictionary website. If I find any more info i'll let you know. I really need to get help with it because i'm in Canada.I wish i had a lawyer friend.jaimeFrom: Brandegee <lightspirals@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 7:38:40 PMSubject: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site , thanks! I am not clear, any info on how to file one, and what needs to be changed according to state? Liz > > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory. > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol > jaime > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I am not sure about what needs to be changed, i wrote to Dr. Deagle and he gave me the jurisdictionary website. If I find any more info i'll let you know. I really need to get help with it because i'm in Canada.I wish i had a lawyer friend.jaimeFrom: Brandegee <lightspirals@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 7:38:40 PMSubject: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site , thanks! I am not clear, any info on how to file one, and what needs to be changed according to state? Liz > > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory. > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol > jaime > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 i am in arizona, usa. Are we saying that the papers could forstall forced vaccinations? From: jaime stolove <chookiehagar@...>Subject: Re: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Siteno-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 8:05 AM I am not sure about what needs to be changed, i wrote to Dr. Deagle and he gave me the jurisdictionary website. If I find any more info i'll let you know. I really need to get help with it because i'm in Canada. I wish i had a lawyer friend.jaime From: Brandegee <lightspirals>no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comSent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 7:38:40 PMSubject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site , thanks! I am not clear, any info on how to file one, and what needs to be changed according to state?Liz>> Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> jaime> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 i am in arizona, usa. Are we saying that the papers could forstall forced vaccinations? From: jaime stolove <chookiehagar@...>Subject: Re: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Siteno-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 8:05 AM I am not sure about what needs to be changed, i wrote to Dr. Deagle and he gave me the jurisdictionary website. If I find any more info i'll let you know. I really need to get help with it because i'm in Canada. I wish i had a lawyer friend.jaime From: Brandegee <lightspirals>no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comSent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 7:38:40 PMSubject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site , thanks! I am not clear, any info on how to file one, and what needs to be changed according to state?Liz>> Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> jaime> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I am not a legal expert by no means, but taking a legal stand on this would be a good first step. Let's hope it would forstall forced vaccines. What would be the logical order of operations? First fight it legally, then if that fails outright protests and dissent, i would assume. Let's hope enough people stand up togeather and outright refuses this attack on our freedom. jaimeFrom: Luck <standforliberty@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 11:37:51 AMSubject: Re: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site i am in arizona, usa. Are we saying that the papers could forstall forced vaccinations? From: jaime stolove <chookiehagar@ .ca>Subject: Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: MMS and Jim Humble Siteno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 8:05 AM I am not sure about what needs to be changed, i wrote to Dr. Deagle and he gave me the jurisdictionary website. If I find any more info i'll let you know. I really need to get help with it because i'm in Canada. I wish i had a lawyer friend.jaime From: Brandegee <lightspirals>no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comSent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 7:38:40 PMSubject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site , thanks! I am not clear, any info on how to file one, and what needs to be changed according to state?Liz>> Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> jaime> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Get it Now for Free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I am not a legal expert by no means, but taking a legal stand on this would be a good first step. Let's hope it would forstall forced vaccines. What would be the logical order of operations? First fight it legally, then if that fails outright protests and dissent, i would assume. Let's hope enough people stand up togeather and outright refuses this attack on our freedom. jaimeFrom: Luck <standforliberty@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 11:37:51 AMSubject: Re: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site i am in arizona, usa. Are we saying that the papers could forstall forced vaccinations? From: jaime stolove <chookiehagar@ .ca>Subject: Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: MMS and Jim Humble Siteno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 8:05 AM I am not sure about what needs to be changed, i wrote to Dr. Deagle and he gave me the jurisdictionary website. If I find any more info i'll let you know. I really need to get help with it because i'm in Canada. I wish i had a lawyer friend.jaime From: Brandegee <lightspirals>no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comSent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 7:38:40 PMSubject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site , thanks! I am not clear, any info on how to file one, and what needs to be changed according to state?Liz>> Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> jaime> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Get it Now for Free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 The concern is the emergency powers, if those weren't in play and the constitution wasn't being trampled on you would be right in saying there is nothing to worry about. The economic crisis is of concern as well, and to say people need to focus and take care of business is exactly what we are doing. For too long the people have been complacent and let bills and laws slip by with no attention what so ever. If people want to truly 'take care of business' the following a situation such as this closely and researching both sides of the media spin is exactly what is needed. The court papers are to be filed if and when the vaccines are mandated. Flu vaccines are made every year, but not with squalene and live attenuated virus as the swine flu vaccine will. Squalene is normally not approved by the FDA but because of above mentioned emergency powers, it will be included in the swine flu vaccine. And this information is straight from the WHO website.From: anjelkiss1 <Anjelkiss@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 7:57:03 AMSubject: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > > > > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory. > > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol > > jaime > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 The concern is the emergency powers, if those weren't in play and the constitution wasn't being trampled on you would be right in saying there is nothing to worry about. The economic crisis is of concern as well, and to say people need to focus and take care of business is exactly what we are doing. For too long the people have been complacent and let bills and laws slip by with no attention what so ever. If people want to truly 'take care of business' the following a situation such as this closely and researching both sides of the media spin is exactly what is needed. The court papers are to be filed if and when the vaccines are mandated. Flu vaccines are made every year, but not with squalene and live attenuated virus as the swine flu vaccine will. Squalene is normally not approved by the FDA but because of above mentioned emergency powers, it will be included in the swine flu vaccine. And this information is straight from the WHO website.From: anjelkiss1 <Anjelkiss@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 7:57:03 AMSubject: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > > > > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory. > > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol > > jaime > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 The concern is the emergency powers, if those weren't in play and the constitution wasn't being trampled on you would be right in saying there is nothing to worry about. The economic crisis is of concern as well, and to say people need to focus and take care of business is exactly what we are doing. For too long the people have been complacent and let bills and laws slip by with no attention what so ever. If people want to truly 'take care of business' the following a situation such as this closely and researching both sides of the media spin is exactly what is needed. The court papers are to be filed if and when the vaccines are mandated. Flu vaccines are made every year, but not with squalene and live attenuated virus as the swine flu vaccine will. Squalene is normally not approved by the FDA but because of above mentioned emergency powers, it will be included in the swine flu vaccine. And this information is straight from the WHO website.From: anjelkiss1 <Anjelkiss@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 7:57:03 AMSubject: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > > > > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory. > > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol > > jaime > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 The concern is the emergency powers, if those weren't in play and the constitution wasn't being trampled on you would be right in saying there is nothing to worry about. The economic crisis is of concern as well, and to say people need to focus and take care of business is exactly what we are doing. For too long the people have been complacent and let bills and laws slip by with no attention what so ever. If people want to truly 'take care of business' the following a situation such as this closely and researching both sides of the media spin is exactly what is needed. The court papers are to be filed if and when the vaccines are mandated. Flu vaccines are made every year, but not with squalene and live attenuated virus as the swine flu vaccine will. Squalene is normally not approved by the FDA but because of above mentioned emergency powers, it will be included in the swine flu vaccine. And this information is straight from the WHO website.From: anjelkiss1 <Anjelkiss@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 7:57:03 AMSubject: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > > > > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory. > > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol > > jaime > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 What Constitution? Obama has already proved that the Constitution means nothing to him. You are entitled to your opinion but I think it is YOU who is out of touch as to what is really happening in the world today. And, yes, the H1N1 vaccinations WILL be administered BEFORE trials have been completed. Do you think Big Pharma and the medical army is going to manufacture all this poison and then NOT make us take it? YOU are the one who needs to GET REAL! Joyce Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > >> > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> > jaime> > >> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 What Constitution? Obama has already proved that the Constitution means nothing to him. You are entitled to your opinion but I think it is YOU who is out of touch as to what is really happening in the world today. And, yes, the H1N1 vaccinations WILL be administered BEFORE trials have been completed. Do you think Big Pharma and the medical army is going to manufacture all this poison and then NOT make us take it? YOU are the one who needs to GET REAL! Joyce Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > >> > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> > jaime> > >> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 What Constitution? Obama has already proved that the Constitution means nothing to him. You are entitled to your opinion but I think it is YOU who is out of touch as to what is really happening in the world today. And, yes, the H1N1 vaccinations WILL be administered BEFORE trials have been completed. Do you think Big Pharma and the medical army is going to manufacture all this poison and then NOT make us take it? YOU are the one who needs to GET REAL! Joyce Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > >> > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> > jaime> > >> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 What Constitution? Obama has already proved that the Constitution means nothing to him. You are entitled to your opinion but I think it is YOU who is out of touch as to what is really happening in the world today. And, yes, the H1N1 vaccinations WILL be administered BEFORE trials have been completed. Do you think Big Pharma and the medical army is going to manufacture all this poison and then NOT make us take it? YOU are the one who needs to GET REAL! Joyce Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > >> > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> > jaime> > >> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Let me add to this the opinion of s II, M.D. Country forces experimental vaccine on population Dear Friend, Many people assume that the vaccinations they receive are backed up by many months of extensive clinical trials and medical evaluation. But regulators at the European Medicines Agency (EMEA) in the UK are about to distribute a new swine flu vaccine that's had a whopping FIVE DAYS of testing. How about that for a reality check? Vaccines in general are unproven, unnecessary, and potentially dangerous -- and they're the ones that have undergone clinical trials. I cannot believe that the government of Great Britain is actually about to start distributing a vaccine -- for a form of influenza that is already little understood -- without having it thoroughly vetted. The EMEA says that clinical trials will be carried out -- but that the swine flu vaccine will already be distributed while those trials are conducted. So let's say that the clinical trials do indeed discover that the vaccine has a serious side effect. Vaccines are not like cars with defective airbags. You can't just recall a live virus that's been injected into the bloodstreams of thousands of people. It would be a man-made medical catastrophe. Of course, the EMEA is claiming that all is safe, and that the current plan for the vaccine in no way compromises patient safety. How could they possibly know such a thing? Because they've already tested a "mock-up" vaccine to evaluate the results. One official called the mock-up test "a detailed risk management plan," adding that there is "quite a body of evidence regarding safety on the trials of the mock-up." I'll keep my sleeves rolled down, thank you very much. The swine flu vaccination program will be the biggest mass vaccination campaign in half a century. The British government has ordered enough of the vaccine doses to cover nation's entire population. I imagine the providers of these vaccines -- the American Big Pharma firms GlaxoKline (GSK) and Baxter Healthcare -- are thrilled. Think of it: an entire nation's worth of vaccines, approved by a government regulatory body in just FIVE DAYS! It's a Big Pharma dream! When the national vaccination begins, the goal will be for each doctor to administer 30 vaccinations an hour. At that point it will be too late should something go wrong. Ingrid What Constitution? Obama has already proved that the Constitution means nothing to him. You are entitled to your opinion but I think it is YOU who is out of touch as to what is really happening in the world today. And, yes, the H1N1 vaccinations WILL be administered BEFORE trials have been completed. Do you think Big Pharma and the medical army is going to manufacture all this poison and then NOT make us take it? YOU are the one who needs to GET REAL! Joyce Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > >> > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> > jaime> > >> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4315 (20090807) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Let me add to this the opinion of s II, M.D. Country forces experimental vaccine on population Dear Friend, Many people assume that the vaccinations they receive are backed up by many months of extensive clinical trials and medical evaluation. But regulators at the European Medicines Agency (EMEA) in the UK are about to distribute a new swine flu vaccine that's had a whopping FIVE DAYS of testing. How about that for a reality check? Vaccines in general are unproven, unnecessary, and potentially dangerous -- and they're the ones that have undergone clinical trials. I cannot believe that the government of Great Britain is actually about to start distributing a vaccine -- for a form of influenza that is already little understood -- without having it thoroughly vetted. The EMEA says that clinical trials will be carried out -- but that the swine flu vaccine will already be distributed while those trials are conducted. So let's say that the clinical trials do indeed discover that the vaccine has a serious side effect. Vaccines are not like cars with defective airbags. You can't just recall a live virus that's been injected into the bloodstreams of thousands of people. It would be a man-made medical catastrophe. Of course, the EMEA is claiming that all is safe, and that the current plan for the vaccine in no way compromises patient safety. How could they possibly know such a thing? Because they've already tested a "mock-up" vaccine to evaluate the results. One official called the mock-up test "a detailed risk management plan," adding that there is "quite a body of evidence regarding safety on the trials of the mock-up." I'll keep my sleeves rolled down, thank you very much. The swine flu vaccination program will be the biggest mass vaccination campaign in half a century. The British government has ordered enough of the vaccine doses to cover nation's entire population. I imagine the providers of these vaccines -- the American Big Pharma firms GlaxoKline (GSK) and Baxter Healthcare -- are thrilled. Think of it: an entire nation's worth of vaccines, approved by a government regulatory body in just FIVE DAYS! It's a Big Pharma dream! When the national vaccination begins, the goal will be for each doctor to administer 30 vaccinations an hour. At that point it will be too late should something go wrong. Ingrid What Constitution? Obama has already proved that the Constitution means nothing to him. You are entitled to your opinion but I think it is YOU who is out of touch as to what is really happening in the world today. And, yes, the H1N1 vaccinations WILL be administered BEFORE trials have been completed. Do you think Big Pharma and the medical army is going to manufacture all this poison and then NOT make us take it? YOU are the one who needs to GET REAL! Joyce Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > >> > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> > jaime> > >> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4315 (20090807) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Let me add to this the opinion of s II, M.D. Country forces experimental vaccine on population Dear Friend, Many people assume that the vaccinations they receive are backed up by many months of extensive clinical trials and medical evaluation. But regulators at the European Medicines Agency (EMEA) in the UK are about to distribute a new swine flu vaccine that's had a whopping FIVE DAYS of testing. How about that for a reality check? Vaccines in general are unproven, unnecessary, and potentially dangerous -- and they're the ones that have undergone clinical trials. I cannot believe that the government of Great Britain is actually about to start distributing a vaccine -- for a form of influenza that is already little understood -- without having it thoroughly vetted. The EMEA says that clinical trials will be carried out -- but that the swine flu vaccine will already be distributed while those trials are conducted. So let's say that the clinical trials do indeed discover that the vaccine has a serious side effect. Vaccines are not like cars with defective airbags. You can't just recall a live virus that's been injected into the bloodstreams of thousands of people. It would be a man-made medical catastrophe. Of course, the EMEA is claiming that all is safe, and that the current plan for the vaccine in no way compromises patient safety. How could they possibly know such a thing? Because they've already tested a "mock-up" vaccine to evaluate the results. One official called the mock-up test "a detailed risk management plan," adding that there is "quite a body of evidence regarding safety on the trials of the mock-up." I'll keep my sleeves rolled down, thank you very much. The swine flu vaccination program will be the biggest mass vaccination campaign in half a century. The British government has ordered enough of the vaccine doses to cover nation's entire population. I imagine the providers of these vaccines -- the American Big Pharma firms GlaxoKline (GSK) and Baxter Healthcare -- are thrilled. Think of it: an entire nation's worth of vaccines, approved by a government regulatory body in just FIVE DAYS! It's a Big Pharma dream! When the national vaccination begins, the goal will be for each doctor to administer 30 vaccinations an hour. At that point it will be too late should something go wrong. Ingrid What Constitution? Obama has already proved that the Constitution means nothing to him. You are entitled to your opinion but I think it is YOU who is out of touch as to what is really happening in the world today. And, yes, the H1N1 vaccinations WILL be administered BEFORE trials have been completed. Do you think Big Pharma and the medical army is going to manufacture all this poison and then NOT make us take it? YOU are the one who needs to GET REAL! Joyce Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > >> > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> > jaime> > >> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4315 (20090807) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Let me add to this the opinion of s II, M.D. Country forces experimental vaccine on population Dear Friend, Many people assume that the vaccinations they receive are backed up by many months of extensive clinical trials and medical evaluation. But regulators at the European Medicines Agency (EMEA) in the UK are about to distribute a new swine flu vaccine that's had a whopping FIVE DAYS of testing. How about that for a reality check? Vaccines in general are unproven, unnecessary, and potentially dangerous -- and they're the ones that have undergone clinical trials. I cannot believe that the government of Great Britain is actually about to start distributing a vaccine -- for a form of influenza that is already little understood -- without having it thoroughly vetted. The EMEA says that clinical trials will be carried out -- but that the swine flu vaccine will already be distributed while those trials are conducted. So let's say that the clinical trials do indeed discover that the vaccine has a serious side effect. Vaccines are not like cars with defective airbags. You can't just recall a live virus that's been injected into the bloodstreams of thousands of people. It would be a man-made medical catastrophe. Of course, the EMEA is claiming that all is safe, and that the current plan for the vaccine in no way compromises patient safety. How could they possibly know such a thing? Because they've already tested a "mock-up" vaccine to evaluate the results. One official called the mock-up test "a detailed risk management plan," adding that there is "quite a body of evidence regarding safety on the trials of the mock-up." I'll keep my sleeves rolled down, thank you very much. The swine flu vaccination program will be the biggest mass vaccination campaign in half a century. The British government has ordered enough of the vaccine doses to cover nation's entire population. I imagine the providers of these vaccines -- the American Big Pharma firms GlaxoKline (GSK) and Baxter Healthcare -- are thrilled. Think of it: an entire nation's worth of vaccines, approved by a government regulatory body in just FIVE DAYS! It's a Big Pharma dream! When the national vaccination begins, the goal will be for each doctor to administer 30 vaccinations an hour. At that point it will be too late should something go wrong. Ingrid What Constitution? Obama has already proved that the Constitution means nothing to him. You are entitled to your opinion but I think it is YOU who is out of touch as to what is really happening in the world today. And, yes, the H1N1 vaccinations WILL be administered BEFORE trials have been completed. Do you think Big Pharma and the medical army is going to manufacture all this poison and then NOT make us take it? YOU are the one who needs to GET REAL! Joyce Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > >> > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> > jaime> > >> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4315 (20090807) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Angie, under the rules of martial law the Constitution is put in a drawer and it's protections are no longer valid. Go back to sleep, the men in the black uniforms will wake you up when they come! From: Angie <angiehewerdine@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 11:56:43 AMSubject: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site Hmmm...Let's see...you're on a group called NO FORCED VACCINATIONS. ..I respect your right to an opinion, no matter what that opinion may be.If you don't care about forced vax or you aren't worried about the effects that you and your children will suffer, then step up, get in line and roll up your sleeve. Those of us that have come here for solutions and to stand with others in solidarity regarding our right to refuse vaccinations may not necessarily appreciate your attempts to assuage our position, even though it is your right to attempt to do so. We did not join this group to argue over its very serious topic. I'm sure there is a Group for you and all of the other pro-vax people where you can feel validated, but this isn't the place. You aren't going to convince anyone here that what is happening ie 'nothing to worry about.'>OMG, WHAT FORCED VACCINATIONS? ????? Let's see, you are going to file papers in a court that stop vaccinations that are not even ready for administering let alone being forced!!! > When did our Constitution change? I read it yesterday and it is still the same. COME ON grow up people. Our country and the whole world is in an ECONOMIC crisis. Vaccinations are being made every fall, swine flu is a flu. Media OVER KILL!!! > Best spend your time worrying about paying your bills and your jobs and helping keep your families together. FOCUS people, this is why we are in such a crisis, not taking of business! HOw is it > Better to sit and worry about other things that are NOT gonna happen and complain.... complain. ...complain. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Angie, under the rules of martial law the Constitution is put in a drawer and it's protections are no longer valid. Go back to sleep, the men in the black uniforms will wake you up when they come! From: Angie <angiehewerdine@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 11:56:43 AMSubject: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site Hmmm...Let's see...you're on a group called NO FORCED VACCINATIONS. ..I respect your right to an opinion, no matter what that opinion may be.If you don't care about forced vax or you aren't worried about the effects that you and your children will suffer, then step up, get in line and roll up your sleeve. Those of us that have come here for solutions and to stand with others in solidarity regarding our right to refuse vaccinations may not necessarily appreciate your attempts to assuage our position, even though it is your right to attempt to do so. We did not join this group to argue over its very serious topic. I'm sure there is a Group for you and all of the other pro-vax people where you can feel validated, but this isn't the place. You aren't going to convince anyone here that what is happening ie 'nothing to worry about.'>OMG, WHAT FORCED VACCINATIONS? ????? Let's see, you are going to file papers in a court that stop vaccinations that are not even ready for administering let alone being forced!!! > When did our Constitution change? I read it yesterday and it is still the same. COME ON grow up people. Our country and the whole world is in an ECONOMIC crisis. Vaccinations are being made every fall, swine flu is a flu. Media OVER KILL!!! > Best spend your time worrying about paying your bills and your jobs and helping keep your families together. FOCUS people, this is why we are in such a crisis, not taking of business! HOw is it > Better to sit and worry about other things that are NOT gonna happen and complain.... complain. ...complain. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 This is to , with all due respect Obama WANTS us to sit at home and do nothing, while the healthcare reform is passed, which totally throws the constitution out the window, including the national id card, read it...then trying to control our food, read the new Agricultural biil they are trying to rush through, government control of food, then cap and trade, tracking on your car to see where you go and tax you. This is a FIGHT to KEEP our constitution, please educate yourself before you start trying to ridicule people please. From: Joyce Tull <hrtull@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 11:16:11 AMSubject: Re: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site What Constitution? Obama has already proved that the Constitution means nothing to him. You are entitled to your opinion but I think it is YOU who is out of touch as to what is really happening in the world today. And, yes, the H1N1 vaccinations WILL be administered BEFORE trials have been completed. Do you think Big Pharma and the medical army is going to manufacture all this poison and then NOT make us take it? YOU are the one who needs to GET REAL! Joyce [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > >> > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> > jaime> > >> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 This is to , with all due respect Obama WANTS us to sit at home and do nothing, while the healthcare reform is passed, which totally throws the constitution out the window, including the national id card, read it...then trying to control our food, read the new Agricultural biil they are trying to rush through, government control of food, then cap and trade, tracking on your car to see where you go and tax you. This is a FIGHT to KEEP our constitution, please educate yourself before you start trying to ridicule people please. From: Joyce Tull <hrtull@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 11:16:11 AMSubject: Re: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site What Constitution? Obama has already proved that the Constitution means nothing to him. You are entitled to your opinion but I think it is YOU who is out of touch as to what is really happening in the world today. And, yes, the H1N1 vaccinations WILL be administered BEFORE trials have been completed. Do you think Big Pharma and the medical army is going to manufacture all this poison and then NOT make us take it? YOU are the one who needs to GET REAL! Joyce [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > >> > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> > jaime> > >> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 This person doesn't seem to understand the overall seriousness of vaccinations, not that this is the extent of med/gov fraud. The "panic" is also well founded because of all the legislation in place that is poised to make them mandatory, the factual training exercises geared towards putting resistors in FEMA camps, etc, etc. There's a LOT to worry about. One drill as I understand it would use the military to administer forced vaccines within 48 hours to an entire state as well as authorize brute force and evacuation. This isn't just wild conspiracy theory, these things are everywhere you look now. If the swine flu vaccine isn't mandatory it's because the plan didn't come off, YET. But it will. From: Angie <angiehewerdine@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 4:56:43 AMSubject: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site Hmmm...Let's see...you're on a group called NO FORCED VACCINATIONS. ..I respect your right to an opinion, no matter what that opinion may be.If you don't care about forced vax or you aren't worried about the effects that you and your children will suffer, then step up, get in line and roll up your sleeve. Those of us that have come here for solutions and to stand with others in solidarity regarding our right to refuse vaccinations may not necessarily appreciate your attempts to assuage our position, even though it is your right to attempt to do so. We did not join this group to argue over its very serious topic. I'm sure there is a Group for you and all of the other pro-vax people where you can feel validated, but this isn't the place. You aren't going to convince anyone here that what is happening ie 'nothing to worry about.'>OMG, WHAT FORCED VACCINATIONS? ????? Let's see, you are going to file papers in a court that stop vaccinations that are not even ready for administering let alone being forced!!! > When did our Constitution change? I read it yesterday and it is still the same. COME ON grow up people. Our country and the whole world is in an ECONOMIC crisis. Vaccinations are being made every fall, swine flu is a flu. Media OVER KILL!!! > Best spend your time worrying about paying your bills and your jobs and helping keep your families together. FOCUS people, this is why we are in such a crisis, not taking of business! HOw is it > Better to sit and worry about other things that are NOT gonna happen and complain.... complain. ...complain. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 OMG, WHAT FORCED VACCINATIONS? ????? Let's see, you are going to file papers in a court that stop vaccinations that are not even ready for administering let alone being forced!!! When did our Constitution change? I read it yesterday and it is still the same. COME ON grow up people. Our country and the whole world is in an ECONOMIC crisis. Vaccinations are being made every fall, swine flu is a flu. Media OVER KILL!!! Best spend your time worrying about paying your bills and your jobs and helping keep your families together. FOCUS people, this is why we are in such a crisis, not taking of business! HOw is it Better to sit and worry about other things that are NOT gonna happen and complain.... complain. ...complain. ... THIS (ABOVE) WAS NOT WRITTEN BY ME, MY RESPONSE TO THIS WAS AS FOLLOWS:The concern is the emergency powers, if those weren't in play and the constitution wasn't being trampled on you would be right in saying there is nothing to worry about. The economic crisis is of concern as well, and to say people need to focus and take care of business is exactly what we are doing. For too long the people have been complacent and let bills and laws slip by with no attention what so ever. If people want to truly 'take care of business' the following a situation such as this closely and researching both sides of the media spin is exactly what is needed. The court papers are to be filed if and when the vaccines are mandated. Flu vaccines are made every year, but not with squalene and live attenuated virus as the swine flu vaccine will. Squalene is normally not approved by the FDA but because of above mentioned emergency powers, it will be included in the swine flu vaccine. And this information is straight from the WHO website.-JAIMEFrom: Ginger Duckett <gingerduckett@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 9:26:47 PMSubject: Re: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site This is to , with all due respect Obama WANTS us to sit at home and do nothing, while the healthcare reform is passed, which totally throws the constitution out the window, including the national id card, read it...then trying to control our food, read the new Agricultural biil they are trying to rush through, government control of food, then cap and trade, tracking on your car to see where you go and tax you. This is a FIGHT to KEEP our constitution, please educate yourself before you start trying to ridicule people please. From: Joyce Tull <hrtull (DOT) com>no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, August 7, 2009 11:16:11 AMSubject: Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site What Constitution? Obama has already proved that the Constitution means nothing to him. You are entitled to your opinion but I think it is YOU who is out of touch as to what is really happening in the world today. And, yes, the H1N1 vaccinations WILL be administered BEFORE trials have been completed. Do you think Big Pharma and the medical army is going to manufacture all this poison and then NOT make us take it? YOU are the one who needs to GET REAL! Joyce [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > >> > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> > > > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> > jaime> > >> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 , I apologize, no insult intended and if I got the person wrong, I am sorry. I am sorry I have not responded, I have been out protesting most of the day, please forgive. From: chookiehagar <chookiehagar@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 7:22:50 PMSubject: Re: MMS and Jim Humble Site > >> >> >> > Hi i just wanted to attach a copy of Dr. Ott's injunction which you may use as a boiler-plate for you own injunction. Also a good site for legal help to file is jurisdictionary. com. Also, a note on filing-because mandatory vaccines are not yet mandatory, the injunction will probably not be accepted but it is good to have ready to file the minute mandatory vaccines become mandatory.> >> > > >> > did i say 'mandatory' enough times?..lol> >> > jaime> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers.> >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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