Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Ok Kirk you're beating it to death. 1. An ingested homeopathic remedy is not urinated out the body. It's ENERGY is absorbed by the PERSON it is meant for. IT IS NOT A VITAMIN. 2. Even if some somehow left the body in urine, and was flushed, it then joins the sewer system...full of chemicals, coffee, pharmaceuticals, etc. etc. all which would nullify said poor little remedy...study homeopathy to understand why. 3. Who cares if MARTIN IS NOT SURE. Homeopathy is 2nd most used health care modality in the world because MOST OF THE WORLD IS SURE. 4. What was your actual point about isotopes affecting more than bonding energy? 5. Were you exposed to radiation while employed as an engineer? 6. Seawater...homeopathy does not work in 'all purpose cures', it is INDIVIDUALIZED to each person. Keep trying....Kent did and ended up becoming one of homeopathy's strongest advocates. That's when not deflecting the obvious and basic facts discovered. Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > >actually > > > >http://www.reikiemp owermentseminars .com.au/assets/ taoist.html > > > >said that. > > > > > > > >as for my personal opinion re homeopathy I agree with this web page: > > > > > > > >http://bayourenaiss anceman.blogspot .com/2008/ 06/homeopathy- exposed-as- fraud-again. html > > > >A typical remedy could have one part of an ingredient to one trillion, trillion parts of water. > > > >Although scientists argue the 'cures' are so diluted they are unlikely to contain any of the original substance, homeopaths claim the water retains a 'memory' of the active ingredient, which it passes to the body to help fight the illness. > > > > > > > >Professor Ernst - a former homeopath himself who now researches complementary medicine at Exeter University - said 200 strictly controlled trials had failed to find any evidence that homeopathy worked. > > > > > > > >'If you do a systematic look at all the evidence you fail to demonstrate strong evidence in favour of homeopathy,' he added. > > > > > > > >However, despite the lack of evidence, supporters of the treatment continue to claim there is hard proof, he said. > > > > > > > >Some selectively pick studies that support the treatment, but ignore those that don't, or misquote the findings of trials, or rely on flawed studies, he claimed. > > > > > > > >Dr Simon Singh, who co-authored the book Trick or Treatment with Professor Ernst, said homeopathy only worked as a placebo. > > > > > > > >'If homeopathy could be proven to be effective it might earn the researcher a Nobel Prize in Medicine,' he said. > > > > > > > >'He or she would also deserve Nobel prizes in chemistry and physics because the laws of science would need to be re-written.' > > > > > > > >One of the best debunkings of homeopathy I've ever seen is delivered by Randi in the video clip below. It's worth watching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and > > > >http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ Leading-professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy -works.html > > > > > > > > > > > >Leading professor offers £10,000 to first person to prove homeopathy works > > > > > > > > > > > >Read more: http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ Leading-professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy -works.html# ixzz0UJ5RUepX > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Yes there is always more to learn Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > >actually > > > >http://www.reikiemp owermentseminars .com.au/assets/ taoist.html > > > >said that. > > > > > > > >as for my personal opinion re homeopathy I agree with this web page: > > > > > > > >http://bayourenaiss anceman.blogspot .com/2008/ 06/homeopathy- exposed-as- fraud-again. html > > > >A typical remedy could have one part of an ingredient to one trillion, trillion parts of water. > > > >Although scientists argue the 'cures' are so diluted they are unlikely to contain any of the original substance, homeopaths claim the water retains a 'memory' of the active ingredient, which it passes to the body to help fight the illness. > > > > > > > >Professor Ernst - a former homeopath himself who now researches complementary medicine at Exeter University - said 200 strictly controlled trials had failed to find any evidence that homeopathy worked. > > > > > > > >'If you do a systematic look at all the evidence you fail to demonstrate strong evidence in favour of homeopathy,' he added. > > > > > > > >However, despite the lack of evidence, supporters of the treatment continue to claim there is hard proof, he said. > > > > > > > >Some selectively pick studies that support the treatment, but ignore those that don't, or misquote the findings of trials, or rely on flawed studies, he claimed. > > > > > > > >Dr Simon Singh, who co-authored the book Trick or Treatment with Professor Ernst, said homeopathy only worked as a placebo. > > > > > > > >'If homeopathy could be proven to be effective it might earn the researcher a Nobel Prize in Medicine,' he said. > > > > > > > >'He or she would also deserve Nobel prizes in chemistry and physics because the laws of science would need to be re-written.' > > > > > > > >One of the best debunkings of homeopathy I've ever seen is delivered by Randi in the video clip below. It's worth watching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and > > > >http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ Leading-professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy -works.html > > > > > > > > > > > >Leading professor offers £10,000 to first person to prove homeopathy works > > > > > > > > > > > >Read more: http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ Leading-professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy -works.html# ixzz0UJ5RUepX > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Oh my God - this Gorski person - - - - - he obviously read/ learned absolutely nothing about remedies - from how they work to how they are made. Simple dilution is not the process. In my earlier email I specifically mentioned the shaking and " succussing " process to which all remedies are put. It is this specific process which imprints the energy, and the dilution process together which make these wonderful substances which work and which render them NOT TOXIC, working with the energy (as several other members have put it) or " vibration, " (as I understand it) of the original substance. Using this Gorski fellow's " argument " is actually a hoot, since it reveals in his own words his complete ignorance of homeopathy. Putting the MD at the end of his name is just more sadness. If we've learned nothing else by sharing with each other on this list, it should be that putting MD at the end of someone's name definitely does not increase their credibility. If you want to really argue about homeopathy, you first have to learn what it is you're trying to argue about, and while it is helpful for people to begin to understand the wonders of why it works, the fact is that it works for literally billions of people and other creatures. Excuse me for being so emphatic, but I've researched and used homeopathic remedies for more than 20 years, and each of these posts " refuting " the efficacy of homeopathy is not interesting as a discussion. They have consistently originated from a lack of information, knowledge or experience rendering any helpful discussion completely useless. One of the ways in which I came to a comfort level with the homeopathic system many years ago was to realize that every substance in the universe has a resonant frequency which, if subjected to that same frequency, will shake the original substance apart (like the famous bridge which goes into resonance and which moved fluidly in a sine wave). This is an event which you can actually see on a video in NASA museums. If every substance has its own frequency (including each of our bodies), then the frequencies of certain remedies may match out own when we are in a state of dis-ease. Once these like frequencies encounter each other, the body is catalyzed to balance its resonance and return to health. I do not know if this falls into any accepted understanding of the process, but my husband is an aerospace engineer, and when he learned about homeopathy, he surmised that this might be how vibrational healing begins - at a cellular or even a subatomic level. It just helped me to understand how healing at such a quantum level was completely possible. t On Oct 21, 2009, at 2:01 AM, lightspirals wrote: > Ok Kirk you're beating it to death. > 1. An ingested homeopathic remedy is not urinated out the body. It's > ENERGY is absorbed by the PERSON it is meant for. IT IS NOT A VITAMIN. > 2. Even if some somehow left the body in urine, and was flushed, it > then joins the sewer system...full of chemicals, coffee, > pharmaceuticals, etc. etc. all which would nullify said poor little > remedy...study homeopathy to understand why. > 3. Who cares if MARTIN IS NOT SURE. Homeopathy is 2nd most used > health care modality in the world because MOST OF THE WORLD IS SURE. > 4. What was your actual point about isotopes affecting more than > bonding energy? > 5. Were you exposed to radiation while employed as an engineer? > 6. Seawater...homeopathy does not work in 'all purpose cures', it is > INDIVIDUALIZED to each person. > > Keep trying....Kent did and ended up becoming one of homeopathy's > strongest advocates. That's when not deflecting the obvious and > basic facts discovered. > > Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >actually > > > > >http://www.reikiemp owermentseminars .com.au/assets/ > taoist.html > > > > >said that. > > > > > > > > > >as for my personal opinion re homeopathy I agree with this > web page: > > > > > > > > > >http://bayourenaiss anceman.blogspot .com/2008/ 06/ > homeopathy- exposed-as- fraud-again. html > > > > >A typical remedy could have one part of an ingredient to one > trillion, trillion parts of water. > > > > >Although scientists argue the 'cures' are so diluted they are > unlikely to contain any of the original substance, homeopaths claim > the water retains a 'memory' of the active ingredient, which it > passes to the body to help fight the illness. > > > > > > > > > >Professor Ernst - a former homeopath himself who now > researches complementary medicine at Exeter University - said 200 > strictly controlled trials had failed to find any evidence that > homeopathy worked. > > > > > > > > > >'If you do a systematic look at all the evidence you fail to > demonstrate strong evidence in favour of homeopathy,' he added. > > > > > > > > > >However, despite the lack of evidence, supporters of the > treatment continue to claim there is hard proof, he said. > > > > > > > > > >Some selectively pick studies that support the treatment, but > ignore those that don't, or misquote the findings of trials, or rely > on flawed studies, he claimed. > > > > > > > > > >Dr Simon Singh, who co-authored the book Trick or Treatment > with Professor Ernst, said homeopathy only worked as a placebo. > > > > > > > > > >'If homeopathy could be proven to be effective it might earn > the researcher a Nobel Prize in Medicine,' he said. > > > > > > > > > >'He or she would also deserve Nobel prizes in chemistry and > physics because the laws of science would need to be re-written.' > > > > > > > > > >One of the best debunkings of homeopathy I've ever seen is > delivered by Randi in the video clip below. It's worth watching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and > > > > >http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ Leading- > professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy -works.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Leading professor offers £10,000 to first person to prove > homeopathy works > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Read more: http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ > Leading-professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy - > works.html# ixzz0UJ5RUepX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 You're not kidding that an m.d. Degree is no guarantee of wisdom or credibility. I am a real old lady and I COULD TELL YOU STOREEES *smiles* Ann Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: Re: onion/homeopathy Oh my God - this Gorski person - - - - - he obviously read/ learned absolutely nothing about remedies - from how they work to how they are made. Simple dilution is not the process. In my earlier email I specifically mentioned the shaking and " succussing " process to which all remedies are put. It is this specific process which imprints the energy, and the dilution process together which make these wonderful substances which work and which render them NOT TOXIC, working with the energy (as several other members have put it) or " vibration, " (as I understand it) of the original substance. Using this Gorski fellow's " argument " is actually a hoot, since it reveals in his own words his complete ignorance of homeopathy. Putting the MD at the end of his name is just more sadness. If we've learned nothing else by sharing with each other on this list, it should be that putting MD at the end of someone's name definitely does not increase their credibility. If you want to really argue about homeopathy, you first have to learn what it is you're trying to argue about, and while it is helpful for people to begin to understand the wonders of why it works, the fact is that it works for literally billions of people and other creatures. Excuse me for being so emphatic, but I've researched and used homeopathic remedies for more than 20 years, and each of these posts " refuting " the efficacy of homeopathy is not interesting as a discussion. They have consistently originated from a lack of information, knowledge or experience rendering any helpful discussion completely useless. One of the ways in which I came to a comfort level with the homeopathic system many years ago was to realize that every substance in the universe has a resonant frequency which, if subjected to that same frequency, will shake the original substance apart (like the famous bridge which goes into resonance and which moved fluidly in a sine wave). This is an event which you can actually see on a video in NASA museums. If every substance has its own frequency (including each of our bodies), then the frequencies of certain remedies may match out own when we are in a state of dis-ease. Once these like frequencies encounter each other, the body is catalyzed to balance its resonance and return to health. I do not know if this falls into any accepted understanding of the process, but my husband is an aerospace engineer, and when he learned about homeopathy, he surmised that this might be how vibrational healing begins - at a cellular or even a subatomic level. It just helped me to understand how healing at such a quantum level was completely possible. t On Oct 21, 2009, at 2:01 AM, lightspirals wrote: > Ok Kirk you're beating it to death. > 1. An ingested homeopathic remedy is not urinated out the body. It's > ENERGY is absorbed by the PERSON it is meant for. IT IS NOT A VITAMIN. > 2. Even if some somehow left the body in urine, and was flushed, it > then joins the sewer system...full of chemicals, coffee, > pharmaceuticals, etc. etc. all which would nullify said poor little > remedy...study homeopathy to understand why. > 3. Who cares if MARTIN IS NOT SURE. Homeopathy is 2nd most used > health care modality in the world because MOST OF THE WORLD IS SURE. > 4. What was your actual point about isotopes affecting more than > bonding energy? > 5. Were you exposed to radiation while employed as an engineer? > 6. Seawater...homeopathy does not work in 'all purpose cures', it is > INDIVIDUALIZED to each person. > > Keep trying....Kent did and ended up becoming one of homeopathy's > strongest advocates. That's when not deflecting the obvious and > basic facts discovered. > > Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >actually > > > > >http://www.reikiemp owermentseminars .com.au/assets/ > taoist.html > > > > >said that. > > > > > > > > > >as for my personal opinion re homeopathy I agree with this > web page: > > > > > > > > > >http://bayourenaiss anceman.blogspot .com/2008/ 06/ > homeopathy- exposed-as- fraud-again. html > > > > >A typical remedy could have one part of an ingredient to one > trillion, trillion parts of water. > > > > >Although scientists argue the 'cures' are so diluted they are > unlikely to contain any of the original substance, homeopaths claim > the water retains a 'memory' of the active ingredient, which it > passes to the body to help fight the illness. > > > > > > > > > >Professor Ernst - a former homeopath himself who now > researches complementary medicine at Exeter University - said 200 > strictly controlled trials had failed to find any evidence that > homeopathy worked. > > > > > > > > > >'If you do a systematic look at all the evidence you fail to > demonstrate strong evidence in favour of homeopathy,' he added. > > > > > > > > > >However, despite the lack of evidence, supporters of the > treatment continue to claim there is hard proof, he said. > > > > > > > > > >Some selectively pick studies that support the treatment, but > ignore those that don't, or misquote the findings of trials, or rely > on flawed studies, he claimed. > > > > > > > > > >Dr Simon Singh, who co-authored the book Trick or Treatment > with Professor Ernst, said homeopathy only worked as a placebo. > > > > > > > > > >'If homeopathy could be proven to be effective it might earn > the researcher a Nobel Prize in Medicine,' he said. > > > > > > > > > >'He or she would also deserve Nobel prizes in chemistry and > physics because the laws of science would need to be re-written.' > > > > > > > > > >One of the best debunkings of homeopathy I've ever seen is > delivered by Randi in the video clip below. It's worth watching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and > > > > >http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ Leading- > professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy -works.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Leading professor offers £10,000 to first person to prove > homeopathy works > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Read more: http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ > Leading-professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy - > works.html# ixzz0UJ5RUepX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 You're not kidding that an m.d. Degree is no guarantee of wisdom or credibility. I am a real old lady and I COULD TELL YOU STOREEES *smiles* Ann Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: Re: onion/homeopathy Oh my God - this Gorski person - - - - - he obviously read/ learned absolutely nothing about remedies - from how they work to how they are made. Simple dilution is not the process. In my earlier email I specifically mentioned the shaking and " succussing " process to which all remedies are put. It is this specific process which imprints the energy, and the dilution process together which make these wonderful substances which work and which render them NOT TOXIC, working with the energy (as several other members have put it) or " vibration, " (as I understand it) of the original substance. Using this Gorski fellow's " argument " is actually a hoot, since it reveals in his own words his complete ignorance of homeopathy. Putting the MD at the end of his name is just more sadness. If we've learned nothing else by sharing with each other on this list, it should be that putting MD at the end of someone's name definitely does not increase their credibility. If you want to really argue about homeopathy, you first have to learn what it is you're trying to argue about, and while it is helpful for people to begin to understand the wonders of why it works, the fact is that it works for literally billions of people and other creatures. Excuse me for being so emphatic, but I've researched and used homeopathic remedies for more than 20 years, and each of these posts " refuting " the efficacy of homeopathy is not interesting as a discussion. They have consistently originated from a lack of information, knowledge or experience rendering any helpful discussion completely useless. One of the ways in which I came to a comfort level with the homeopathic system many years ago was to realize that every substance in the universe has a resonant frequency which, if subjected to that same frequency, will shake the original substance apart (like the famous bridge which goes into resonance and which moved fluidly in a sine wave). This is an event which you can actually see on a video in NASA museums. If every substance has its own frequency (including each of our bodies), then the frequencies of certain remedies may match out own when we are in a state of dis-ease. Once these like frequencies encounter each other, the body is catalyzed to balance its resonance and return to health. I do not know if this falls into any accepted understanding of the process, but my husband is an aerospace engineer, and when he learned about homeopathy, he surmised that this might be how vibrational healing begins - at a cellular or even a subatomic level. It just helped me to understand how healing at such a quantum level was completely possible. t On Oct 21, 2009, at 2:01 AM, lightspirals wrote: > Ok Kirk you're beating it to death. > 1. An ingested homeopathic remedy is not urinated out the body. It's > ENERGY is absorbed by the PERSON it is meant for. IT IS NOT A VITAMIN. > 2. Even if some somehow left the body in urine, and was flushed, it > then joins the sewer system...full of chemicals, coffee, > pharmaceuticals, etc. etc. all which would nullify said poor little > remedy...study homeopathy to understand why. > 3. Who cares if MARTIN IS NOT SURE. Homeopathy is 2nd most used > health care modality in the world because MOST OF THE WORLD IS SURE. > 4. What was your actual point about isotopes affecting more than > bonding energy? > 5. Were you exposed to radiation while employed as an engineer? > 6. Seawater...homeopathy does not work in 'all purpose cures', it is > INDIVIDUALIZED to each person. > > Keep trying....Kent did and ended up becoming one of homeopathy's > strongest advocates. That's when not deflecting the obvious and > basic facts discovered. > > Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >actually > > > > >http://www.reikiemp owermentseminars .com.au/assets/ > taoist.html > > > > >said that. > > > > > > > > > >as for my personal opinion re homeopathy I agree with this > web page: > > > > > > > > > >http://bayourenaiss anceman.blogspot .com/2008/ 06/ > homeopathy- exposed-as- fraud-again. html > > > > >A typical remedy could have one part of an ingredient to one > trillion, trillion parts of water. > > > > >Although scientists argue the 'cures' are so diluted they are > unlikely to contain any of the original substance, homeopaths claim > the water retains a 'memory' of the active ingredient, which it > passes to the body to help fight the illness. > > > > > > > > > >Professor Ernst - a former homeopath himself who now > researches complementary medicine at Exeter University - said 200 > strictly controlled trials had failed to find any evidence that > homeopathy worked. > > > > > > > > > >'If you do a systematic look at all the evidence you fail to > demonstrate strong evidence in favour of homeopathy,' he added. > > > > > > > > > >However, despite the lack of evidence, supporters of the > treatment continue to claim there is hard proof, he said. > > > > > > > > > >Some selectively pick studies that support the treatment, but > ignore those that don't, or misquote the findings of trials, or rely > on flawed studies, he claimed. > > > > > > > > > >Dr Simon Singh, who co-authored the book Trick or Treatment > with Professor Ernst, said homeopathy only worked as a placebo. > > > > > > > > > >'If homeopathy could be proven to be effective it might earn > the researcher a Nobel Prize in Medicine,' he said. > > > > > > > > > >'He or she would also deserve Nobel prizes in chemistry and > physics because the laws of science would need to be re-written.' > > > > > > > > > >One of the best debunkings of homeopathy I've ever seen is > delivered by Randi in the video clip below. It's worth watching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and > > > > >http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ Leading- > professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy -works.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Leading professor offers £10,000 to first person to prove > homeopathy works > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Read more: http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ > Leading-professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy - > works.html# ixzz0UJ5RUepX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Interesting ideas - thanks for sharing them, Theresa Sheri >One of the ways in which I came to a comfort level with the >homeopathic system many years ago was to realize that every substance >in the universe has a resonant frequency which, if subjected to that >same frequency, will shake the original substance apart (like the >famous bridge which goes into resonance and which moved fluidly in a >sine wave). This is an event which you can actually see on a video in >NASA museums. > >If every substance has its own frequency (including each of our >bodies), then the frequencies of certain remedies may match out own >when we are in a state of dis-ease. Once these like frequencies >encounter each other, the body is catalyzed to balance its resonance >and return to health. > >I do not know if this falls into any accepted understanding of the >process, but my husband is an aerospace engineer, and when he learned >about homeopathy, he surmised that this might be how vibrational >healing begins - at a cellular or even a subatomic level. > >It just helped me to understand how healing at such a quantum level >was completely possible. > >theresa Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start October 28 & 29 http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 We had one (an MD) in Montana whose favorite treatment was to pack the belly button with spices. He wasn't the worst, though. And they all believe they're scientific wonders. From: ann brandenberger <mrs_bberger@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 2:15:46 AMSubject: Re: Re: onion/homeopathyYou're not kidding that an m.d. Degree is no guarantee of wisdom or credibility. I am a real old lady and I COULD TELL YOU STOREEES *smiles*AnnSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: Re: onion/homeopathyOh my God - this Gorski person - - - - - he obviously read/ learned absolutely nothing about remedies - from how they work to how they are made.Simple dilution is not the process. In my earlier email I specifically mentioned the shaking and "succussing" process to which all remedies are put. It is this specific process which imprints the energy, and the dilution process together which make these wonderful substances which work and which render them NOT TOXIC, working with the energy (as several other members have put it) or "vibration," (as I understand it) of the original substance.Using this Gorski fellow's "argument" is actually a hoot, since it reveals in his own words his complete ignorance of homeopathy.Putting the MD at the end of his name is just more sadness.If we've learned nothing else by sharing with each other on this list, it should be that putting MD at the end of someone's name definitely does not increase their credibility.If you want to really argue about homeopathy, you first have to learn what it is you're trying to argue about, and while it is helpful for people to begin to understand the wonders of why it works, the fact is that it works for literally billions of people and other creatures.Excuse me for being so emphatic, but I've researched and used homeopathic remedies for more than 20 years, and each of these posts "refuting" the efficacy of homeopathy is not interesting as a discussion. They have consistently originated from a lack of information, knowledge or experience rendering any helpful discussion completely useless.One of the ways in which I came to a comfort level with the homeopathic system many years ago was to realize that every substance in the universe has a resonant frequency which, if subjected to that same frequency, will shake the original substance apart (like the famous bridge which goes into resonance and which moved fluidly in a sine wave). This is an event which you can actually see on a video in NASA museums.If every substance has its own frequency (including each of our bodies), then the frequencies of certain remedies may match out own when we are in a state of dis-ease. Once these like frequencies encounter each other, the body is catalyzed to balance its resonance and return to health.I do not know if this falls into any accepted understanding of the process, but my husband is an aerospace engineer, and when he learned about homeopathy, he surmised that this might be how vibrational healing begins - at a cellular or even a subatomic level.It just helped me to understand how healing at such a quantum level was completely possible.tOn Oct 21, 2009, at 2:01 AM, lightspirals wrote:> Ok Kirk you're beating it to death.> 1. An ingested homeopathic remedy is not urinated out the body. It's > ENERGY is absorbed by the PERSON it is meant for. IT IS NOT A VITAMIN.> 2. Even if some somehow left the body in urine, and was flushed, it > then joins the sewer system...full of chemicals, coffee, > pharmaceuticals, etc. etc. all which would nullify said poor little > remedy...study homeopathy to understand why.> 3. Who cares if MARTIN IS NOT SURE. Homeopathy is 2nd most used > health care modality in the world because MOST OF THE WORLD IS SURE.> 4. What was your actual point about isotopes affecting more than > bonding energy?> 5. Were you exposed to radiation while employed as an engineer?> 6. Seawater...homeopathy does not work in 'all purpose cures', it is > INDIVIDUALIZED to each person.>> Keep trying....Kent did and ended up becoming one of homeopathy's > strongest advocates. That's when not deflecting the obvious and > basic facts discovered.>> Liz >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >actually> > > > >http://www.reikiemp owermentseminars .com.au/assets/ > taoist.html> > > > >said that.> > > > >> > > > >as for my personal opinion re homeopathy I agree with this > web page:> > > > >> > > > >http://bayourenaiss anceman.blogspot .com/2008/ 06/ > homeopathy- exposed-as- fraud-again. html> > > > >A typical remedy could have one part of an ingredient to one > trillion, trillion parts of water.> > > > >Although scientists argue the 'cures' are so diluted they are > unlikely to contain any of the original substance, homeopaths claim > the water retains a 'memory' of the active ingredient, which it > passes to the body to help fight the illness.> > > > >> > > > >Professor Ernst - a former homeopath himself who now > researches complementary medicine at Exeter University - said 200 > strictly controlled trials had failed to find any evidence that > homeopathy worked.> > > > >> > > > >'If you do a systematic look at all the evidence you fail to > demonstrate strong evidence in favour of homeopathy,' he added.> > > > >> > > > >However, despite the lack of evidence, supporters of the > treatment continue to claim there is hard proof, he said.> > > > >> > > > >Some selectively pick studies that support the treatment, but > ignore those that don't, or misquote the findings of trials, or rely > on flawed studies, he claimed.> > > > >> > > > >Dr Simon Singh, who co-authored the book Trick or Treatment > with Professor Ernst, said homeopathy only worked as a placebo.> > > > >> > > > >'If homeopathy could be proven to be effective it might earn > the researcher a Nobel Prize in Medicine,' he said.> > > > >> > > > >'He or she would also deserve Nobel prizes in chemistry and > physics because the laws of science would need to be re-written.'> > > > >> > > > >One of the best debunkings of homeopathy I've ever seen is > delivered by Randi in the video clip below. It's worth watching.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >and> > > > >http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ Leading- > professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy -works.html> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Leading professor offers £10,000 to first person to prove > homeopathy works> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Read more: http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ > Leading-professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy - > works.html# ixzz0UJ5RUepX> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Yes, perfect Theresa Your resonance thoughts are good ones, definitely a facet of the process. This essentially points to light, most goes on at that level. Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >actually > > > > > >http://www.reikiemp owermentseminars .com.au/assets/ > > taoist.html > > > > > >said that. > > > > > > > > > > > >as for my personal opinion re homeopathy I agree with this > > web page: > > > > > > > > > > > >http://bayourenaiss anceman.blogspot .com/2008/ 06/ > > homeopathy- exposed-as- fraud-again. html > > > > > >A typical remedy could have one part of an ingredient to one > > trillion, trillion parts of water. > > > > > >Although scientists argue the 'cures' are so diluted they are > > unlikely to contain any of the original substance, homeopaths claim > > the water retains a 'memory' of the active ingredient, which it > > passes to the body to help fight the illness. > > > > > > > > > > > >Professor Ernst - a former homeopath himself who now > > researches complementary medicine at Exeter University - said 200 > > strictly controlled trials had failed to find any evidence that > > homeopathy worked. > > > > > > > > > > > >'If you do a systematic look at all the evidence you fail to > > demonstrate strong evidence in favour of homeopathy,' he added. > > > > > > > > > > > >However, despite the lack of evidence, supporters of the > > treatment continue to claim there is hard proof, he said. > > > > > > > > > > > >Some selectively pick studies that support the treatment, but > > ignore those that don't, or misquote the findings of trials, or rely > > on flawed studies, he claimed. > > > > > > > > > > > >Dr Simon Singh, who co-authored the book Trick or Treatment > > with Professor Ernst, said homeopathy only worked as a placebo. > > > > > > > > > > > >'If homeopathy could be proven to be effective it might earn > > the researcher a Nobel Prize in Medicine,' he said. > > > > > > > > > > > >'He or she would also deserve Nobel prizes in chemistry and > > physics because the laws of science would need to be re-written.' > > > > > > > > > > > >One of the best debunkings of homeopathy I've ever seen is > > delivered by Randi in the video clip below. It's worth watching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and > > > > > >http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ Leading- > > professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy -works.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Leading professor offers £10,000 to first person to prove > > homeopathy works > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Read more: http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ > > Leading-professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy - > > works.html# ixzz0UJ5RUepX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Yes, perfect Theresa Your resonance thoughts are good ones, definitely a facet of the process. This essentially points to light, most goes on at that level. Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >actually > > > > > >http://www.reikiemp owermentseminars .com.au/assets/ > > taoist.html > > > > > >said that. > > > > > > > > > > > >as for my personal opinion re homeopathy I agree with this > > web page: > > > > > > > > > > > >http://bayourenaiss anceman.blogspot .com/2008/ 06/ > > homeopathy- exposed-as- fraud-again. html > > > > > >A typical remedy could have one part of an ingredient to one > > trillion, trillion parts of water. > > > > > >Although scientists argue the 'cures' are so diluted they are > > unlikely to contain any of the original substance, homeopaths claim > > the water retains a 'memory' of the active ingredient, which it > > passes to the body to help fight the illness. > > > > > > > > > > > >Professor Ernst - a former homeopath himself who now > > researches complementary medicine at Exeter University - said 200 > > strictly controlled trials had failed to find any evidence that > > homeopathy worked. > > > > > > > > > > > >'If you do a systematic look at all the evidence you fail to > > demonstrate strong evidence in favour of homeopathy,' he added. > > > > > > > > > > > >However, despite the lack of evidence, supporters of the > > treatment continue to claim there is hard proof, he said. > > > > > > > > > > > >Some selectively pick studies that support the treatment, but > > ignore those that don't, or misquote the findings of trials, or rely > > on flawed studies, he claimed. > > > > > > > > > > > >Dr Simon Singh, who co-authored the book Trick or Treatment > > with Professor Ernst, said homeopathy only worked as a placebo. > > > > > > > > > > > >'If homeopathy could be proven to be effective it might earn > > the researcher a Nobel Prize in Medicine,' he said. > > > > > > > > > > > >'He or she would also deserve Nobel prizes in chemistry and > > physics because the laws of science would need to be re-written.' > > > > > > > > > > > >One of the best debunkings of homeopathy I've ever seen is > > delivered by Randi in the video clip below. It's worth watching. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and > > > > > >http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ Leading- > > professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy -works.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Leading professor offers £10,000 to first person to prove > > homeopathy works > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Read more: http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/ article-1026966/ > > Leading-professo r-offers- 10-000-person- prove-homeopathy - > > works.html# ixzz0UJ5RUepX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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