Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Hello Jane it's nice to met you Sammie is so lucky to have found you! Sounds like you are a wonderful mother! If I was you, I would start off by trying to find more background on her birth mom/dad. I know with my sons doctor it's a fight to get anything done but if it don't work then I change doctors. Sounds to me she needs to be tested. You should start with your doctor and go from there. I know my insurance covers the evaluation but nothing else after that. There are also, here in MD were I live, child programs for this. In our state is called infants and toddlers program and then child find for the other children. They both offer free help. Logan is just like Sammie, knows what the is saying, understand everything and so on but just can't get the words out. Logan drooled a lot when he was younger and even now at night. Hope to talk to you again soon! Hugs, Cherilyn Visit Us : <A HREF= " http://www.bearsintheattic.net/ " >Bears In the Attic-Graphics, Trains, Adoptions and more!</A> : : <A HREF= " http://www.bearsintheattic.net/Graphics.html " >Bears In the Attic Graphics</A> : <A HREF= " http://www.bearsintheattic.net/blog.html " >From Son Up, To Son Down</A> : : <A HREF= " http://www.bearsintheattic.net/LogansDepot.html " >Logan's Depot</A> : <A HREF= " http://www.bearsintheattic.net/images/logansdepot/Karate.html " >~Logan's Karate Journal~</A> : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 she was in about 9 differnt homes in her first 3 years. In Feb 2001 Sammie (2) was in a car wreck with her then foster mom who was killed, and Sammie received a closed brain injury and fractured skull. My son also suffered from a closed head injury and a fractured skull. This lead to him being diagnosed with an acquired brain injury by a neurologist that specialized in brain injury. The injury affects behaviour, speech, cognitive function...etc...any pre existing difficulties would also be made much worse by the brain injury..so somebody with pre existing speech problems or behaviour problems would have increased difficulties in these areas. Has Sammie been seen by a neurologist that specializes in brain injury? This would be VERY important due to the existing history. Also...apraxia is very common in brain injured children...and some adults. Annemarie Silver and gold are purified by fire, but God purifies hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Hi Jane I'd have someone investigate that closed head injury too. Is there anyone who can tell you if Sammie did those things prior to her living with you? That would be interesting to know... This is the right place for help. and everyone else here are just fabulous. Ped neurologist might be a great first step. Best of luck to you, ~Karyn [ ] HI I'm new Hi; Im Jane, I'm concerned that my daughter may have apraxia and wonder how to get her diagnosed either with or without. Sammie is 5 now. Her story is kind of long. Sammies Birth mom had severe speech problems along with a great deal of abuse in the home. I have no diagnosis for her. When Sammie was 1 she was placed in a developmental program for overall developmental delays, as she grew she has caught up in lots of areas and is only mildly delayed (between 48 and 50 months in most areas) however her speed and motor skills are still on a 3 year old level. As Sammie grew her speech difficulties became more and more apparent. It did not help that she was in about 9 differnt homes in her first 3 years. In Feb 2001 Sammie (2) was in a car wreck with her then foster mom who was killed, and Sammie received a closed brain injury and fractured skull. She came home from the hospital with her Maternal great aunt, and was placed with us in August 2001 16 days after her 3rd birthday. She has received speech therapy at the preschool and receives therapy in her new prek at the elementary school (we delayed kindergartern by a year to increase her readiness). Sammie was diagnosed with incipient reactive attachement disorder and oppositional defiant disorder, ADHD was ruled out. Her speech therapist at the preschool mentioned that she believed Sammie might be apraxic, but never to my knowledge arranged for testing or made that diagnosis. Sammie knows lots of words, and understands them, she just can't say them. for example she tries to say normal and says norman, she says her name is mantha, has trouble forming w t, s and many other sounds when she is using them in a word. But if you ask the sound of each letter she can someimes produce them. There are words you actually see her struggling to make her mouth say. If you try to show her i.e. put your tongue behind your teeth like this, she cannot do it but insists she is. When she eats something like a gum ball she drools all over herself, she used to hoard food in her mouth. She would finish dinner and 30 minutes later you would see her chewing something and it would be her dinner. We used to have to lift up her tongue and look under it to see if the food was gone before we let her leave the table. She constantly chews on her blanket, we buy toothbrushes and leave them around so she has something more appropriate to chew. She often chews with her mouth open but seems surprised when we point out it is open as if she did not realize it. How and who can make a diagnosis of apraxia? By the way I am an older mom, I have Sammie who is 5 and a 9 year old adopted son who is PDDNOS/ADHD/ODD. I have been able to find out alot about my sons autism and successfully advocate for him but I can't advocate for Sammie because I am not sure what is going on. I push for speech and OT and we have general goals, but I need to know for sure what we are dealing with to be most effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Thanks everyone, Since Sammy's accident happened while she was in foster care, social services started a lawsuit to recoup medical costs. When we adopted Sammy we were substituted in the case and the attorney and I have been trying to get Sam evaluated. However no one wanted to refer her as she was speech delayed ( attributed to her mother having speech problems (genetic) and failure to thrive and being overall delayed before the accident and she was making progress) The attorney said he had a pediatric neurologist in Rochester that would see her but he has yet to set up the appointment. I just want to be sure of her diagnosis so I can ensure that she gets proper therapy. Her IEP gives her 2 hours of speech a week and an hour of OT. The SLP is having the OT work in facial muscle movements along with the overall OT work which is helpful. Sam is currently in preschool at the local public school which is really a wonderful school. Teachers are very caring and in fact the entire school has become a part of the All Kinds of Minds program. Where the teachers are taught to evaluate the learning styles of each child and tailor their teaching methods to meet those needs. Sams school SLP is the same as her big brother Jimmy's He is PDD/NOS(Hyperlexic/semantic pragmatic disorder) ADHD/ODD. The classes are small and he has been mainstreamed since kindergarten. He is now in danger of becoming the class clown as his social skills are blossming with all their support. Sammie has 12 in her preschool class Jimmy has 17 in his 4th grade class. Those are the average sizes in our school, our community is very small. However if the school chose they could put all 32 kids in one class and do away with a teacher, but they prefer to maintiain smaller class size which I appreciate as a parent. The other plus is everyone knows everyone so no one is going to get away with not doing what they should, meaning teachers, administrators, and kids. Do you have any ideas for what I can do at home to help improve her speech. We already model correct speech and when she has difficulty forming some sounds or words we show her how we move our mouth and tongue and actually help her to physically move her mouth and tongue into the right position. She is a chatterer, never shuts up,to the point that we have to tell her to be quiet sometimes, I hate to do it bu she would talk 24/7 otherwise, including screaming, singing and mimicking her brother to his distraction. I know I should have more patience especially with her speech problem but sometimes I just cannot take it, she argues over everything, she asks constant questions that she knows the answer to or thinks she does, then argues when you answer is different than what she wants to hear. I took her to an Autumn festival Sunday it was a 25 minute drive she asked me (I counted) 56 times " We get apples there? The answer was yes Sammy we will get apples there. Since it was just me I didn't say anything, but when it is her brother and her Dad it makes them crazy when she repeats over and over. I don't think it is a speech thing I believe it is attention issues since she had so little before she came to us. I hope as time goes by she will not be so needy of constant affirmation that she has our attention. But I am worried that being told to be quiet will affect her willingness to speak, though I think given her daily output it is not likely LOL. Thanks again for welcoming me and letting me unburden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Hi Ally, maree here again from NZ. I think you live on the Gold Coast -is that right? We are flying to Brissy on Tues 4 April & have 5 weeks in Qld so maybe a chance to meet up? Will be traveling up to Inisfail (our daughter lives nearby) & coming back south on the 6 May so that would suit us best. You can emial me direct if you wish. Bye for now Maree > > Welcome aboard, > > hi Im Ally,I only found this web site about a month ago,Im 38 with 4 children 2 have bleph we have never seen any one else with this condition.I was so emotional when I found this site.Looking through the photos of all the others people with this condition was like finding an extended family. > > I live in QLD Australia.I havnt put any photos on this site yet but hope to shortly.This is a wonderful site,with lots of info,any loads of helpful people.l look forward to hearing from you. > > bye Ally. > blepharophimosis Hi I'm new > > > Hello Out there! I just found this website! I'm excited! I'll be 31 in > May and I havn't met another soul with Blepharophimosis! I'm not sure > what I expect to find or learn through this experience, I guess I'm > just curious. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Toni what part of Texas are you from. I live in Alice. Clare Check Out the new free AIM® Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I used to be a Texan, born in Ft. Worth in 1927, grade school in Orange, high school in Houston, and college at Texas A & M. I left in 1948 right after college and have lived in Washington State ever since. God bless. From: Rheumatoid Arthritis [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of whitedove007@... Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:16 PM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Hi I'm new Toni what part of Texas are you from. I live in Alice. Clare Check Out the new free AIM® Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Hi neThank you for your message. I have been talking to her more about her Aspergers since coming to this group, and she does open up to me which is good, and her Mum has thanked me for the support I have given Marissa about when she was going to throw away her college course. Marissa has just told me that she is just awaiting an apprenticeship in bricklaying so once she gets that I think she will feel better about her course. I have even given her a job of building me a wall in my garden once the better weather comes, so she is pleased with that.I hope they do stay together as she is a lovely girl and good for my Son, and we all get on so well with her, and her family.I live in a small village near Halifax West Yorkshire, we have lived here 24 yrs in the same house, it is an old stone built terraced with 3 floors. We are surrounded by hills ( the pennines).Some of the posts on here I can't relate to with not having a Child myself with Aspergers, but I keep reading the messages to give an insight of what actually happens when a child has a meltdown and how you parents deal with it, so I am getting some tips from this group. CarolynFrom: susanne hansen <s_hansen34@...> Sent: Tue, 25 January, 2011 2:51:20Subject: Re: ( ) Hi i'm new Hi Carolyn, It is so nice of you to want to reach out to her like you are. I'm sure it means a lot to her and your son that you are so opened minded and willing to find out what Asperger's is all about and not automatically judge her. Even if your son and her don't end up staying together, I'm sure your son will be forever grateful to you. If she does ever have an outburst with your son or in your presents the key is to try not to take anything personnal and to try to stay calm yourself. It is best to wait for the situation to defuse before you try to talk about whatever the issue was. Hopefully this will never happen, but it's best to know how to handle it if it does so you you will be prepared. You said you are from the UK? Can I ask from where? ne From: carolyn <crlyn_whittaker@...>Subject: ( ) Hi i'm new Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:14 PM Hi EveryoneI've joined your group, to try to find out more about Aspergers.I hope you will take me under your wings as it isn't actually my children that have it, but my Son's girlfriend MarissaShe told me she has Aspergers, but I was afraid of upsetting her by asking what it entails as this is all very new to me.Her Mum has told me briefly about some of her symptoms, and since I have noticed a few.Her mum says she doesn't show her feelings very well, yet she is very loving towards my Son and esp my Baby Granddaughter.Sometimes we can be sat in the lounge and she is very quiet, at first I thought she was shy, but her mum says this is her way.I get on really well with Marissa and she is a lovely girl.Marissa is at college doing brick laying, and also is training to be a boxer.This week she was on about leaving college as she is struggling with the theory side of it, but both her mum and myself have reassured her we will help her get through this, and she actually has a meeting with her tutor today to see if they can get her extra help.So what I'm really asking is how best I can offer help and support to her by having a better understanding of what her condition entails by reading and listening to you all in this group.Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Hi MeaghanThank you for that it means a lot to me to know that even though Marissa isn't my daughter most of you have taken the time to reply to me and offer advice and support.If a girl or her family won't accept any of your sons then there not worth knowing as I see it if you care for someone you will accept them no matter what, nobody is perfect. Me being in this group has helped me understand about Marissa's condition a lot more and what it entails.I know her Mu has told me about when she has a meltdown see Ive learnt that word on here Lol at home what it is like, but she hasn't had one here, but at least now I will know how to help defuse the situation from all the advice I have received from this group.You all seem very supportive of each other on here and thats good. CarolynFrom: Meaghan Larson <meaghanlarson@...> Sent: Mon, 24 January, 2011 4:06:27Subject: Re: ( ) Hi i'm new Carolyn , i wish their were more people in the world like you , even tho she is not your daughter , you cared enough and had enough compassion to learn about her disorder!! I have three boys , and i often think if they ever meet a girl what they will be like , and what her parents will think of my son..... i can only hope that if they do find a special girl , that her parents will be as open minded and loving as you are!!! MeaghanFrom: carolyn whittaker <crlyn_whittaker@...> Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 7:15:40 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Hi i'm new Thank you for your response Robyn it means a lot. Carolyn From: and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...> Sent: Fri, 21 January, 2011 3:10:33Subject: Re: ( ) Hi i'm new That's awesome that she got good results back. Ya know, if we all had good, decent, accepting people in our lives, imagine how nice it would be.......sigh. (Oh....and I'm s' wife, Robin. We just have both of our names on the "title". he he) Robin "Normal is just a cycle on a washing machine....." From: carolyn <crlyn_whittaker@...>Subject: ( ) Hi i'm new Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 8:14 PM Hi EveryoneI've joined your group, to try to find out more about Aspergers.I hope you will take me under your wings as it isn't actually my children that have it, but my Son's girlfriend MarissaShe told me she has Aspergers, but I was afraid of upsetting her by asking what it entails as this is all very new to me.Her Mum has told me briefly about some of her symptoms, and since I have noticed a few.Her mum says she doesn't show her feelings very well, yet she is very loving towards my Son and esp my Baby Granddaughter.Sometimes we can be sat in the lounge and she is very quiet, at first I thought she was shy, but her mum says this is her way.I get on really well with Marissa and she is a lovely girl.Marissa is at college doing brick laying, and also is training to be a boxer.This week she was on about leaving college as she is struggling with the theory side of it, but both her mum and myself have reassured her we will help her get through this, and she actually has a meeting with her tutor today to see if they can get her extra help.So what I'm really asking is how best I can offer help and support to her by having a better understanding of what her condition entails by reading and listening to you all in this group.Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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