Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Absolutely.That is correct. That's the game they play. It boosts their chances of getting into the kid's heads from 50% to 95%. Re: British Medical Journal - response needed > > > " if a parent does not return the consent form > TeenScreen considers they have consented. " > > > You mean, if the parent doesn't return the consent form stating that > they DO NOT consent then consent is automatically implied. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Absolutely.That is correct. That's the game they play. It boosts their chances of getting into the kid's heads from 50% to 95%. Re: British Medical Journal - response needed > > > " if a parent does not return the consent form > TeenScreen considers they have consented. " > > > You mean, if the parent doesn't return the consent form stating that > they DO NOT consent then consent is automatically implied. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 You've hit the lunacy square on the head. And this is happening without parents knowing what is really going on. Re: British Medical Journal - response needed > > > Isn't that like 'negative voting'???? > > Doesn't it work the opposite way in government? ie. in government a > proposal is put forward and people vote 'in favor' of it? They're not > presumed to all be in favor unless someone is not in favor? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 YES! It's called " passive consent " and since drugs are the " first line defense " for depression and everything else many children will end up on them. Then guess what happens if the parent disagrees with the diagnosis? The state can take the children away from the parent. Go to wildestcolts newsgroup and hear story after story of parents being forced by the state to drug their children under threat of having the children taken away all over the country. Aliah Gleason's story is the most perfect example. Screened at school, goofed around with the answers and got taken from school by the state because the parents didn't see any suicidality and her parents didn't see her for 5 months. 5 months of 13 psychotropic medications at once and repeated restraints for reacting to side effects of the drugs. 9 months to get Aliah home. The whole time they were telling Aliah that her parents didn't want to ever see her again. Jim " if a parent does not return the consent form TeenScreen considers they have consented. " You mean, if the parent doesn't return the consent form stating that they DO NOT consent then consent is automatically implied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 YES! It's called " passive consent " and since drugs are the " first line defense " for depression and everything else many children will end up on them. Then guess what happens if the parent disagrees with the diagnosis? The state can take the children away from the parent. Go to wildestcolts newsgroup and hear story after story of parents being forced by the state to drug their children under threat of having the children taken away all over the country. Aliah Gleason's story is the most perfect example. Screened at school, goofed around with the answers and got taken from school by the state because the parents didn't see any suicidality and her parents didn't see her for 5 months. 5 months of 13 psychotropic medications at once and repeated restraints for reacting to side effects of the drugs. 9 months to get Aliah home. The whole time they were telling Aliah that her parents didn't want to ever see her again. Jim " if a parent does not return the consent form TeenScreen considers they have consented. " You mean, if the parent doesn't return the consent form stating that they DO NOT consent then consent is automatically implied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 > Since when and WHY are drugs the 'first line' of > 'defence' in treating > depression in children???!!! Since it is cheeper for the Insurance Co's. Why..Because it is a quick fix. __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 > Since when and WHY are drugs the 'first line' of > 'defence' in treating > depression in children???!!! Since it is cheeper for the Insurance Co's. Why..Because it is a quick fix. __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Hi Bow, Antidepressants are recommended as " first line " treatments for all sorts of things..... http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=27760 http://www.guideline.gov/summary/summary.aspx?view_id=1 & doc_id=6007 First Line of Treatment Use either antidepressant medication or psychotherapy as first line treatment for mild to moderate Major Depressive Disorder (MDD). http://www.ashp.org/news/ShowArticle.cfm?id=11855 So I'm looking for some old press where psychs are saying antidepressants are a " First-Line " defense, treatment or whatever and all I see is a complete antidepressant ass-whompin on google news!!!! I swear, There is barely any pro-antidepressant press anywhere! Freakin amazing. Aaahhh.... some days are just great Jim Since when and WHY are drugs the 'first line' of 'defence' in treating depression in children???!!! I always thought they were to be used only when therapy and behavior modification didn't work (especially in children.) Children are only just learning how to behave and relate in the world whereas it is presumed that adults have already passed through this stage of development and hence, drugs could be justified as one of the first therapies for depression in adult populations where obviously social adjustment issues are not thought to be the main problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Hi Bow, Antidepressants are recommended as " first line " treatments for all sorts of things..... http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=27760 http://www.guideline.gov/summary/summary.aspx?view_id=1 & doc_id=6007 First Line of Treatment Use either antidepressant medication or psychotherapy as first line treatment for mild to moderate Major Depressive Disorder (MDD). http://www.ashp.org/news/ShowArticle.cfm?id=11855 So I'm looking for some old press where psychs are saying antidepressants are a " First-Line " defense, treatment or whatever and all I see is a complete antidepressant ass-whompin on google news!!!! I swear, There is barely any pro-antidepressant press anywhere! Freakin amazing. Aaahhh.... some days are just great Jim Since when and WHY are drugs the 'first line' of 'defence' in treating depression in children???!!! I always thought they were to be used only when therapy and behavior modification didn't work (especially in children.) Children are only just learning how to behave and relate in the world whereas it is presumed that adults have already passed through this stage of development and hence, drugs could be justified as one of the first therapies for depression in adult populations where obviously social adjustment issues are not thought to be the main problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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