Re: Ok now I am confused please answer this

[Guest guest]

All foods are processed by the liver. It metabolizes all proteins, fats and

carbohydrates, and stores what it necessary.

This metabolization includes any drug, herb, or pill taken by mouth.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: <cjheer@...>

< >

Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 10:05 AM

Subject: Ok now I am confused please answer this

> I am under the impression that is misleading, vitamins and

> supplements and herbs are all still processed through our livers the

> same way drugs are and I think I read somewhere in the recent posts

> that they are not, this is not true as far as I know. Can someone

> please elaborate on this.

[Guest guest]

I read that some herbs can be as toxic to the liver as drugs, I don't

know if this includes any supplements and I certainly don't claim to

be any kind of expert in these issues. I don't take any herbs

anymore, although I have in the past, I just never found that they

helped that much.

I am curious Patty what your current regimine includes and if you are

having brain fog free days lately or if you are still on the roller

coaster.

In @y..., " Patty " <faussettdp@m...> wrote:

> All foods are processed by the liver. It metabolizes all proteins,

fats and

> carbohydrates, and stores what it necessary.

> This metabolization includes any drug, herb, or pill taken by mouth.

> Patty

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <cjheer@i...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 10:05 AM

> Subject: Ok now I am confused please answer this

>

>

> > I am under the impression that is misleading, vitamins and

> > supplements and herbs are all still processed through our livers

the

> > same way drugs are and I think I read somewhere in the recent

posts

> > that they are not, this is not true as far as I know. Can someone

> > please elaborate on this.

[Guest guest]

Patty,

Then why did you state in your email that my statement

about all supplements are broken down by a major organ

was not true, and questioned where I was getting my

information????

e

> All foods are processed by the liver. It metabolizes all proteins, fats and

> carbohydrates, and stores what it necessary.

> This metabolization includes any drug, herb, or pill taken by mouth.

> Patty

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <cjheer@...>

> < >

> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 10:05 AM

> Subject: Ok now I am confused please answer this

>

>

> > I am under the impression that is misleading, vitamins and

> > supplements and herbs are all still processed through our livers the

> > same way drugs are and I think I read somewhere in the recent posts

> > that they are not, this is not true as far as I know. Can someone

> > please elaborate on this.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- eRene@... wrote:

> Patty,

>

> Then why did you state in your email that my

> statement

> about all supplements are broken down by a major

> organ

> was not true, and questioned where I was getting my

> information????

>

> e

> > All foods are processed by the liver. It

> metabolizes all proteins, fats and

> > carbohydrates, and stores what it necessary.

> > This metabolization includes any drug, herb, or

> pill taken by mouth.

> > Patty

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: <cjheer@...>

> > < >

> > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 10:05 AM

> > Subject: Ok now I am confused

> please answer this

> >

> >

> > > I am under the impression that is misleading,

> vitamins and

> > > supplements and herbs are all still processed

> through our livers the

> > > same way drugs are and I think I read somewhere

> in the recent posts

> > > that they are not, this is not true as far as I

> know. Can someone

> > > please elaborate on this.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It is true that some herbs are toxic. Remember that many Rx drugs are made

from plants! (Just refined down to very specific active components). It has

never been said that herbal supplements are NOT toxic, but that does not

mean that all are. You have to read up and be informed about them. There

are many herbal books available, and my recommendation is to research the

herbs that you think will help you. Most are not toxic at the dosages

recommended on the bottles. The ones that are will be noted.

The value of herbs lies in the fact that they are God's gift, and when taken

in their natural form, you are getting the whole value of the plant and it

synergistic parts, not isolated components that by themselves are dangerous.

I have found herbs to be very helpful to me. The secret, as I have stated

before, is to be consistent in taking them. You can't take a few here and a

few there and for just a few days, and expect to feel a difference. Herbs

need consistent usage over a period of about 6 weeks to notice the benefits

in most cases.

I have been feeling great. I have days when I have some brain fog, but it

usually can be traced back to something I ate, or a detoxing therapy that

stirs up stuff into my bloodstream. Most recently it was a liver flush that

I did that made my head foggy. But it is gone now, and I have been feeling

great! I consider myself to be nearly fully healed, but I believe that the

healing will only continue as long as I take care of my lifestyle.

My regime changes from time to time, and I do take breaks from my herbs and

supplements. I don't think that constant use month after month, year after

year, is necessarily good, but neither do I believe that completely

eschewing vitamin and herbal supplements will do us any good.

I take raw garlic as often as I can. It makes me smell, so I have to be

aware of my social obligations, but I think raw garlic is one of the best

herbs you can use. I take up to 12 garlic cloves a day. Garlic, as I have

posted in the archives, is a valuable anti-viral, anti-bacterial,

anti-parasitic herb. During World War II, when Russia ran out of

antibiotics to treat its many casualties, they reverted to the original

antibiotic: raw garlic was rubbed on the wound. It became known as

" Russian Penicillin " .

Stoff, MD (Tucson, AZ) said the first part of healing is to put

viruses into remission. Many of us have a large viral load, and it would

behoove us to follow this advice. Garlic can help do this, as well as Olive

Leaf Extract.

I take the anti-oxidants: Vit C, Vit E, drink carrot juice, selenium.

I take alpha lipoic acid, n-acetyl-cysteine, glycine, taurine for boosting

glutathione levels. Also Transfer Factor Plus.

I take fish oil caps, and Borage oil for the essential fatty acids. I was

taking Udo's oil to get a good balance of the essential fatty acids, but I

decided to take a break from the flax oil, due to its possible effects on

the thyroid. I am giving the borage oil and fish oil caps a try now.

I take acidophilus and eat raw sauerkraut for the beneficial flora.

I take digestive enzymes after eating cooked foods, and sometime in between

meals for inflammation.

I take various herbs for adrenal support and liver support. Mainly fennel,

fenugreek, licorice, siberian ginseng, and definitely milk thistle. Also B5

(pantothenic acid) for the adrenals.

I take gingko biloba for brain clarity.

I take B12 shots.

I may have missed something in here, but that is run down of my basic

supplements. I don't think it is just the supplements that help, though. I

consider the therapies I do to be just as important.

Patty

Original Message -----

From: <cjheer@...>

< >

Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 2:14 PM

Subject: Re: Ok now I am confused please answer this

> I read that some herbs can be as toxic to the liver as drugs, I don't

> know if this includes any supplements and I certainly don't claim to

> be any kind of expert in these issues. I don't take any herbs

> anymore, although I have in the past, I just never found that they

> helped that much.

>

> I am curious Patty what your current regimine includes and if you are

> having brain fog free days lately or if you are still on the roller

> coaster.

>

>

>

>

>

> In @y..., " Patty " <faussettdp@m...> wrote:

> > All foods are processed by the liver. It metabolizes all proteins,

> fats and

> > carbohydrates, and stores what it necessary.

> > This metabolization includes any drug, herb, or pill taken by mouth.

> > Patty

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: <cjheer@i...>

> > < @y...>

> > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 10:05 AM

> > Subject: Ok now I am confused please answer this

> >

> >

> > > I am under the impression that is misleading, vitamins and

> > > supplements and herbs are all still processed through our livers

> the

> > > same way drugs are and I think I read somewhere in the recent

> posts

> > > that they are not, this is not true as far as I know. Can someone

> > > please elaborate on this.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> You are absolutely right--vitamins, supplements, and

> herbs are processed through a major organ in our body.

> Regardless of what Patty says,

e,

Would you please post the letter in which I stated the opposite of above?