Re: anti-depressiva.

March 8, 2005

In a message dated 3/6/2005 3:21:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

w.landstra@... writes:

HI.Anti-depressiva don.t work in most cases and do more harm then

good.Recent study confirmed this what already is known by the medical

profession and

the pharmaceutical industry.15.000 people where involved in the study,half of

them placebo,other half anti-depressiva.There was almost no difference between

the placebo group and the anti-depressant group.This was a honest research

done by the University of Amsterdam.Other studies are not so honest,especially

the one conducted by the industry.Sometimes they hire a famous psychiater to

put his name on the study,for a lot of money ofcourse.Given to young people

anti-depressiva is dangerous as it can make them suicidal.So if you are

suffering from a mild depression,do nothing they usually go away by

themsleves.If

it.s the real thing and prolonged think twice of taking anti-depressant,find

a alternative way to deal with it.Willem.

I tend to agree with you, Willem. Although, for those that anti-d's work

for, they work wonders for. I have a friend who was diagnosed bi-polar many

years ago. After years and years of medication upon medication.........she

quit. She went through a serious sinking spell last winter, but overall does

better unmedicated than she ever did medicated. Most patients are uneducated

about adverse reactions to that type of medication and think that they are

supposed to feel better in 3-5 days, when the effects are seldom realized in

less than two weeks. Withdrawal is really awful. If I can avoid them, I will.

My GI doc asked me if I was depressed during first treatment.........I used

the " sitting in my garage with my gun " line. He enjoyed that. Then I

answered honestly: Yes, after I developed hemolytic anemia, threw my toenails

up,

lived on the commode, I wasn't the most cheerful person I've ever known, but

no, I wasn't suicidal.

what can I say?

Anne

March 9, 2005

In a message dated 3/8/2005 5:08:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

gourdmad@... writes:

A Mennonite woman in her lacey

hair covering and colored clothes

plays cards with a smiling six year old

whose hair has mostly fallen out.

Keep going with that one. I really like it.

I shed and still shed more tears than I used to. Now, if I didn't have HCV,

people would say that it was purely post-menopausal blues. In your case

that won't float. I think it's simply that I don't have to wear the mask

anymore. To put it simply, if I want to cry, I cry. If I think something is

funny, I laugh.........LOUDLY! If I'm angry, I let people know why! Bear in

mind that I don't get angry very often. I don't have the energy. Now, so far, I

haven't lost a single friend over it.......well, maybe one. In short, my pri

orities have changed. It's not a matter of being selfish, nor am I

particularly rude about it. I'm just more emotionally and verbally honest. I

was

honest before, now, I'm dealing with the issues that were ignored out of a fake

politeness. Whether, this is selfish or not, is an issue that I'm still

questioning. Had I been sitting in the lab with you, I would have contained my

tears until the child exited and then cried like a baby for her pain and

suffering. Not a cool thing to do in public.......makes people think you are

really weird!

Although I am anything but a Kennedy supporter, both Kennedy assassinations

brought a response of pure raw rage at the assassin and anyone associated

with that kind of behavior. In short, it made me want to pick up a gun and go

shoot the shooter. I felt even more rage when Luther King was killed.

The Kennedys have been making enemies for generations, the Kings hadn't.

Okay off the soap box,

Anne

March 9, 2005